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On January 28 2015 02:40 GlowingBear wrote: I want every person that is scumreading me to tell me what you're doing so. I can see only one possible trait and that one is being afk. I have no fucking idea why you want to lynch me. How long is this going to take me to answer? 1 You took Onegu out of context in a misleading way (pages 14 and 19 of thread) 2 You took me out of context in a misleading way, the read on Toad (pages 14) 3 You took me out of context AGAIN saying I was pushing you based on meta when the opposite was true (page 19) 4 You did not interact with me whilst we were in thread together over an action you thought was scumlike from me, instead you waited to make it as a point just so you could make a point in your notes. Furthermore I INTERACTED WITH YOU. (page 14) 5 VE scumreads you for not solving the game and you don't even give him a good response for how you are (page 17) 6 When I call you out for ignoring my posts you say you are coming up to a random page. I MEAN COME ON. I know you are not new to these games (page 36) 7 Then you go and decide you'll claim scum (page 39). Your lack of activity isn't helping but there is more than enough to scumread you. | ||
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VE actually does think Palmar is scum, but now I have to go back and see what I missed since I left the office. | ||
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On January 28 2015 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote: I think Eden and HTS are both super town. I'm LEANING town on liancourt because of how he "responded" to Eden freaking out. I still suspect Palmar of being mafia and I'm still suspecting GB. Palmar coming in and actually trying to lynch someone moves him out of my lynch preferences for today, so GB is my default as of right now. Unless someone can convince me that Toad is the best lynch, I'm going to look for a better lynch than GB, in case there is one. Palmar was policy vote for me until he started contributing. The nature of his contributions I see you are questioning. Describe to me how a scum Palmar plays. Because I'm not as familiar with Palmar. | ||
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On January 28 2015 03:31 IAmRobik wrote: He has LITERALLY claimed mafia. What the fuck are you guys doing? My vote is on GB. But this game setup, there is logic for continuing discussion, those of us that think it's a done deal with him. Because once someone is hammered, night phase is silent, and one of us will be silenced forever. So we need to get out as much as we can about everyone. I'm already thinking about the next lynch whilst pushing GB, hopefully off the cliff. | ||
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On January 27 2015 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay then let me consider it logically. Logically speaking I know that: 1a) Palmar considers himself a good player 1b) Palmar considers D1 to be his strongest day 1c) Palmar's opinion of his play diminishes sharply AFTER D1 2) Palmar has done nothing but troll D1 3a) Palmar speaks to VE as if he knows VE is town 3b) Palmar tends to require quite a bit from VE, generally speaking, to read him town 3c) In the face of VE calling Palmar scum, Palmar continues to consider VE town. Now if I assume that mafia want to blend in and hide, then yes, I can then assume that mafia!Palmar would not act this way. However, what of all my other truths about Palmar? Do I just dismiss them out of hand? VE you are scumreading Palmar based on meta. He's been trolling me most of D1. Does he normally troll new players? Would his behaviour been different if I was not in this game? | ||
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On January 28 2015 03:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Palmar is a huge troll. I doubt you being in the game makes any difference HTS. If Palmar's play D1 is supposed to be strong, do you think his push on Toad is town or mafia motivated (regardless of what you think on Toad)? I know you said you weren't convinced on Toad being mafia even if he's toned down, but Palmar's push is what I want to look into. It doesn't appear he's taking things out of context after a harder look. But you are scumreading him, so I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. Palmar's focus on Toad's wording gave me pause as I was similarly (and correctly) scumread for awkward wording of posts. I feel his waffling is a fair point, though associative reads between Toad and GB are dangerous without a flip. | ||
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On January 28 2015 03:56 Eden1892 wrote: We better not be on five. Someone unvote. We still have a whole day left to discuss this y'all! What are you throwing away more time to figure the game out for? Just checked. Palmar unvoted. The four currently on GB (in order): HTS, Robik, Toad, VE | ||
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On January 28 2015 04:02 GlowingBear wrote: YOU CAN'T SAY I'M FAKING CONTRIBUTION IF I'M ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTING, OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO REASON THINGS WTF I think VE and I are saying things differently but my point of contention with you is that you are distorting the facts. I used the point with Onegu mainly to show that it's NOT just me (thus NOT OMGUS) you are doing this to. | ||
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1 Palmar finally starts contributing 2 Palmar scumreads Toad for his positions on GB and the manner in which he's posting 3 I check Toad to see what he's talking about. Given my own experience as scum, I found Palmar's suspicions reasonable. I found several posts I didn't like. 4 Toad panics thinking he has multiple votes on him. 5 I continue pushing GB, but I do understand wanting more time to eval. He's got 3 votes, if he still has 3 when I go to bed, I will unvote since we have more than a day now. 6 GB until recently continued to be evasive and we are just flat at loggerheads on the points I am scumreading him for. 7 VE further suspects Palmar. I'm exploring that possibility. Obviously check it yourself, but yea. | ||
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On January 28 2015 04:06 Eden1892 wrote: I have to admit that it's weird that GB would self-vote and retract if he's mafia. You don't self-vote as mafia unless you're planning to have your partner hammer it away to cut off discussion. Maybe I'll check the time elapsed between the time he claimed and the time he retracted. Could lead us somewhere. | ||
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On January 28 2015 01:23 GlowingBear wrote: Yeah, that is a scum giving up. Gg well played On January 28 2015 01:37 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote GB claimed scum at 4:23pm my time and retracted at 4:37pm my time. When he voted I believe he had three. Palmar gave him #4 via martyr policy at 4:30pm. GB retracted at 4:37pm. On January 28 2015 01:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Untouchable Votecount GlowingBear (4): Half the Sky, IAmRobik, Onegu (2): Eden1892, liancourt liancourt (1): Toadesstern (0): IAmRobik (0): Eden1892 (0): Palmar (0): With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is in . If no majority is reached before then, the day will be a no lynch. The people in thread were at the time - Palmar, Onegu, myself, Robik. | ||
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Because Robik and I were ALREADY on him. But Onegu was NOT sold and thought GB was martyring so we cannot make that association. | ||
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Is it reasonable to think GB made a play here or as Robik said, did GB retract since he'd be playing against his win condition? I mean, does GB make plays like this? I've only played one game prior with him on this. I mean I could see a Koshi pull this but... | ||
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.... That was at myself. Gah. | ||
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I am assuming you've had plenty of game time with Palmar. If this is not the case, then guess we'll have to move on. I have been taking a lot of people here at face value in general simply because I've not played with them. Right now, nothing that I've seen from VE is inherently scummy. I don't know if he's posting more/less relative to other games, for example. Palmar I didn't like his trolling. When he comes in, his arguments on Toad did make sense but just that I was much more convinced on GB. But then he puts vote #4 under policy, when at least two others (Robik and myself) were scumreading him. So that begs the question why Palmar didn't check our scumreads. Does this make sense? | ||
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