On December 26 2014 18:57 Koshi wrote:
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Tempting.
Will there be any 3rd party bullshit?
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On December 26 2014 18:57 Koshi wrote: /in Tempting. Will there be any 3rd party bullshit? | ||
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On December 27 2014 18:47 Eden1892 wrote: man that's a cool looking list of people Join. | ||
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On December 28 2014 16:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I really wanted to play in a normal Can i get on the replacement list please? You are in the game in case you didn't notice btw. | ||
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On December 30 2014 04:27 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On December 30 2014 04:25 GlowingBear wrote: Damdy, you'll probably be as good as me as a coach. But you can't deny that there are better suited players here to coach the newbies (Artanis; marv, JAT). You still very good bby Rsoultin, I'm completely okay. Go TEAMbear!! Ahem. Caught a cold? :p | ||
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On December 30 2014 06:44 Koshi wrote: Cuz no vigi in history of vigis shoots twice scum. Done that twice. Shot 3 scum in 1 game. :p | ||
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On December 30 2014 07:09 Koshi wrote: 16 vs 5 15 vs 5 ml 13 vs 5 13 vs 4 11 vs 4 11 vs 3 9 vs 3 8 vs 3 ml 6 vs 3 5 vs 3 ml 3 vs 3 at the end of n5 with 3 ml vs 2 correct lynches. Not balanced. Even with a doc save somewhere you have 4 vs 3 going into d6 and the doc needs to save again. losing after 3 ml when you need 5 correct lynches is imbalanced. That means you need to go 2 ml and 5 correct to win. That is insane. I agree. | ||
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On December 31 2014 09:26 Koshi wrote: The game was balanced around 21 people btw. Show nested quote + On December 30 2014 08:01 Koshi wrote: Yeah you can have 2 static kp vs 3 save roles. But this game is supposed to be low on blues. 15 vs 6 with a 2 shot town vigi and a 1 shot scum vigi is balanced I think. And the prs currently in the OP. If the town vigi hits 2 towns scum wins after 3ml when there are no saves. (town needs 6 correct lynches) If the town vigi hits 1 scum/1town scum wins with 4 ml when there are no saves. (town needs 5 correct lynches) If the town vigi hits 2 scums the game ends with 5 ml when there are no saves (town needs 4 correct lynches) Now with 15 vs 5 if town hits 1 scum / 1 town, town still loses with 3 ml and they need 5 correct lynches. So... this game got a lot harder on town. Also this. | ||
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On December 31 2014 09:33 Superbia wrote: Maybe only RNG if both shots are on town or both on scum. Else only let the shot through on scum if 1 shot on mafia and 1 shot on town. Free green check if both vigis are donkey. Yeah, it's weird as fuck. But it's fun. I dislike this even more. Just give us a normal 2 shot vig or 2 normal one shot vigs. Jesus. | ||
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On December 31 2014 09:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: A bright person once said "Keep it simple, stupid." This is a normal game. Let's not add in more variables like vig RNGs and stuff like that, please. ^ | ||
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On December 31 2014 09:45 Koshi wrote: For 20 you could remove the vigi for town, and give scum a 2 shot vigi and play 15 vs 5. 15 vs 5 14 vs 5 ml 12 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi) 11 vs 5 ml 9 vs 5 (scum nk + scum vigi) 8 vs 5 ml 7 vs 5 6 vs 5 ml 5 vs 5 at the end of N4 without saves. This means doc needs to save twice to give town a 5th ml. This means scum got 2 kills for the first 2 nights to disrupt towncircles. 1 docsave means that town can try on D5 to lynch a scum. so they go in a lylo situation. With no saves they don't get that try. So, 15 town with doc and cop against 5 scum with rb, framer and 2 shot scum vigi? | ||
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On December 31 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote: Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop. I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu. Your setup :-) Yeah, my thoughts exactly. | ||
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On December 31 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote: Also, rb + framer + 2 unaware millers seem a bit high against a doc/cop. I would remove the rb then? or the 2 millers? I dnu. Your setup :-) well yeah, now that scum has a bunch of kp removing the rb makes sense. Framer is awesome, I agree with you. I like wifom hey sorry about that jat No problem. Cutting rb works too. I just think rb and framer is too much. | ||
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Most importantly I agree very much with those 3 posts: On December 31 2014 20:50 marvellosity wrote: let's kill ritoky. he pushed absolute bullshit reasons for all his scumreads in Carol and was generally unwarrantedly aggressive. I can't believe he's so dumb to push something for 10+ posts here which was a joke. Literally the only hesitation is that I can't believe he would play exactly the same for another game running. Nothing else is very interesting. Chyz gets time. DrH didn't demonstrate Chyz was mafia, just maybe that he made a read he shouldn't have. tbc. On December 31 2014 20:55 marvellosity wrote: yeah NYE is a terrible time to start in the end. I am a bit suspicious of geript too, but I don't know if it's because he's actually scummy. His wanting a bunch of ppl to turn up because he's so good at reading them reminds me of Russia Today where he said very similar things about being good town and being able to read certain people. but maybe he can do it as town also, just i haven't seen anything else to make me think he's town this game. tbc. On December 31 2014 20:52 Palmar wrote: Btw, as I'm probably going to be mostly unavailable today (it's new year's eve... why did we even start?). I'll just throw out very much not curated thoughts I had while reading up to like page... 16? I'll catch up with the rest later. geript is sort of scummy in some respects. I have no idea why 20 minutes into the game he started wishing for random people to be there to talk to him. Also, everything he says is sort of... too clean? not dumb enough? I don't know how to describe it and it's just a feeling based on memory, I haven't gone back and re-read, so I'd need to confirm. Eden came off strong and he said something I thought was really dumb. DrH is probably town, and he had a post that made me feel good about that read. Damdred is probably town too. He too has a post I can't remember that made me think "oh that looks like a townie". Koshi overreacting on this page (21) to DrH's dismissal of koshi's defense was kinda mafia. Idk though. I should probably just sheep marv and lynch him if he's wrong. That's always a fine strategy. Remember, these reads I'm just throwing out literally from memory of having read like 4-6 pages this morning. Don't pretend these are some concrete observations. Geript really reminds me of russian mafia were he also highly overexaggerated his own play early on. I don't remember him doing it as town so far. Ritoky just tunneled Dr. H with some bullshit reasoning that he doesn't even believe is scummy. What is the point in pushing it then? The answer is there is no point. | ||
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On January 01 2015 00:24 geript wrote: My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv. Explain. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 14:54 sicklucker wrote: Mspaint. and No. So like a scum dandred wont make a midnight opening joke post about him being mafia. Like who starts a mafia game at midnight. Scum would be more inclined to lurk untill tomorrow. Im getting a slight town read from it. Dont see how you can get a strong read either way as in to like vote him. Awkward start of the game votes at the first thing they read piss me off. it still ain't midnight in imperial sson Get out slam. Please don't talk with people as host. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 16:59 ritoky wrote: On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1. I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. On December 31 2014 15:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I dont usually support policy lynches but anyone caught in a lie deserves intense scrutiny and questioning imo I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it. Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post. I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias. Oh, I finally get what's happening. I wasn't softening or backing down on anything - there was nothing to begin with. I don't care what anyone thinks about any policy. When I said "I strongly believe" it was just the first words that popped into my mind. When I say lying I don't mean rhetorical contradictions necessarily (because I'm prone to them by mistake) or errors, but more specifically fake claims or lying about night actions. When town does this it immediately starts a huge bandwagon and derails the thread. Seeing as I have been in many games where some brilliant townies tried to do this and it turned out badly I do have some genuine concerns but they mean nothing in the context of this game. What does matter and what IS the point is the conversations, accusations, cases that follow. I think of those fluff and policy posts as the spark to start the mafia game proper. I'm not trying to push any kind of conversation or discussion or anything about any sort of actual policy itself. I hope you can understand this. I can see why you would make this mistake and I have not played in a game with so many players unfamiliar with these kinds of things out of me in a long time, so I guess I should be very clear about things like this? Ironically you are talking to someone who build up a reputation to be such a brilliant townie. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:05 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 01:58 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote: so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to? This doesn't make any sense what so ever. I'm sorry. Hes asking you if you have thoughts on the three people who are getting a good bit of discussion going atm, if one person is scummy for not being able t do this are you scum. Yhea, but my suspcion against Chyz was not based on the fact that he didn't post about the main protagonists in the game (in fact, he did). But rather that he didn't give any read of his own. I have given my thoughts about a few people but not the three he mentioned I guess. Then now would be a good time to do that, don't you agree? Your reads are awfully easy and convenient if Chyz should be town. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote: Same same. Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously. Any thoughts about the game at hand? Thanks buddy. Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos. I see a problem here. How will you help with the mass execution if you don't want to catch up? | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:06 TheChyz wrote: I don't usually pay much attention to people until they actually do something. Ionno, its kinda like ppl policy lynching lurkers and such (since that is kinda what robik is doing). By no means is he town but also saying nothing is not really anything to jump on top of, at least not yet anyway. Usually lurkers lurk by day 1 and if he wants to do that, fine. Doesn't mean he will probably last day 2 if he continues that way. By entrance I meant more like the first few posts of the game. Ionno, it just felt very similar to the other time I played with him in which he was town. I don't think any of the posts on geript hold any real substance (unless I scimmed through an important one too quickly) and are kinda more like peoples soft reads on him. Dafuq are you talking about? | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:12 TheChyz wrote: On January 01 2015 01:39 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote: Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game? Outside of Robik and Chyz, not too much. geript I'm a bit torn on. Initially, I thought he was a bit scummy (waiting for Palmar, Marv etc) but he has been active and was one of the players that really got the discussion going. This is making me like him somewhat, as scum there is no reason to be that active in the start of the game really. Slight town read on him. I think sicklurker posted some relevant things at the start of the game. Not much though, but a slight town read this far. On January 01 2015 02:05 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 01:58 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote: so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to? This doesn't make any sense what so ever. I'm sorry. Hes asking you if you have thoughts on the three people who are getting a good bit of discussion going atm, if one person is scummy for not being able t do this are you scum. Yhea, but my suspcion against Chyz was not based on the fact that he didn't post about the main protagonists in the game (in fact, he did). But rather that he didn't give any read of his own. I have given my thoughts about a few people but not the three he mentioned I guess. Problem is that the other reads you have made is based on the fact that you dont have much (as I have bolded) and as such they are not good enough reads. You should have some more reads than me and robik. Let's hear some scum hunting and not 24/7 bandwagoning. This post is proof the chyz is scum basically. How are you all not seeing this Explain. (I disagree) | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: TheChyz is mafia The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red. On December 31 2014 17:22 TheChyz wrote: Nah i just don't like conversations going in circles for years on end. Eden is sticking out to me as my largest scum read because the constant defensive wording in each post where there always seems to be some idea of not jumpin on somebody too strongly. Just doesn't sit right about how cautious he/she (sorry dont know) is trying to be when there is literally no reason to be cautious other than being afraid of having heat thrown his/her way. dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point. Let's sum up the Eden read: 1. Eden is my largest scum read. 2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly. 4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully. Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia? On December 31 2014 17:17 Eden1892 wrote: in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't. ##VOTE: TheChyz This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is 1. Defensive 2. Not jumping on anyone 3. Too cautious This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him. On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote: He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean. 1. Everyone is suspicious 2. I am suspicious 3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right. I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter! I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself. On December 31 2014 17:30 TheChyz wrote: I don't have a reason to vote for eden. Because someone is my largest scum read (at this point in the game that means he is the least towny out of all like, what , 5 players) doesn't mean i need to vote on him. Garbage vote atm so why would i do it? With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant. 1. Eden is my largest scumread. 2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up) 4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful. 5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right. 6. I have no reason to vote for Eden. 7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote. 8. Eden is the least towny of all the players. And then: On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it Everyone read this again. Thechyz has yet to contribute a thought out read or try scumhunting. All his votes are jist omgus and hes still telling people he suspects them basically for not scumhunting or having strong reads. It doesn't get much worse. There is no reason we should not lynch thechyz day 1. Nothing in this post makes him obviously scum. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:26 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:12 TheChyz wrote: On January 01 2015 01:39 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote: Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game? Outside of Robik and Chyz, not too much. geript I'm a bit torn on. Initially, I thought he was a bit scummy (waiting for Palmar, Marv etc) but he has been active and was one of the players that really got the discussion going. This is making me like him somewhat, as scum there is no reason to be that active in the start of the game really. Slight town read on him. I think sicklurker posted some relevant things at the start of the game. Not much though, but a slight town read this far. On January 01 2015 02:05 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:59 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 01:58 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:49 KelsierSC wrote: so Lazer monkey one of your main points about chyz is that he didn't have a town/scum read early on and didn't give it till someone pushed him, yet you are also unable to give a read on any of the 3 main protagonists in the early game. (eden, drh and rit) . So you are scum to? This doesn't make any sense what so ever. I'm sorry. Hes asking you if you have thoughts on the three people who are getting a good bit of discussion going atm, if one person is scummy for not being able t do this are you scum. Yhea, but my suspcion against Chyz was not based on the fact that he didn't post about the main protagonists in the game (in fact, he did). But rather that he didn't give any read of his own. I have given my thoughts about a few people but not the three he mentioned I guess. Problem is that the other reads you have made is based on the fact that you dont have much (as I have bolded) and as such they are not good enough reads. You should have some more reads than me and robik. Let's hear some scum hunting and not 24/7 bandwagoning. This post is proof the chyz is scum basically. How are you all not seeing this Explain. (I disagree) Read my full case. Why is thechyz still in this thread telling people to scumhunt and calling their reads weak? His eden read which he has both defended and called garbage (and refused to vote behind it) and is more guilty of the things he's throwing dirt on other players for doing You are acting like you never saw a townie being a hypocrite. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:39 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 02:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On December 31 2014 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: TheChyz is mafia The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red. On December 31 2014 17:22 TheChyz wrote: Nah i just don't like conversations going in circles for years on end. Eden is sticking out to me as my largest scum read because the constant defensive wording in each post where there always seems to be some idea of not jumpin on somebody too strongly. Just doesn't sit right about how cautious he/she (sorry dont know) is trying to be when there is literally no reason to be cautious other than being afraid of having heat thrown his/her way. dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point. Let's sum up the Eden read: 1. Eden is my largest scum read. 2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly. 4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully. Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia? On December 31 2014 17:17 Eden1892 wrote: in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't. ##VOTE: TheChyz This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is 1. Defensive 2. Not jumping on anyone 3. Too cautious This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him. On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote: He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean. 1. Everyone is suspicious 2. I am suspicious 3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right. I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter! I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself. On December 31 2014 17:30 TheChyz wrote: I don't have a reason to vote for eden. Because someone is my largest scum read (at this point in the game that means he is the least towny out of all like, what , 5 players) doesn't mean i need to vote on him. Garbage vote atm so why would i do it? With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant. 1. Eden is my largest scumread. 2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up) 4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful. 5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right. 6. I have no reason to vote for Eden. 7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote. 8. Eden is the least towny of all the players. And then: On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it Everyone read this again. Thechyz has yet to contribute a thought out read or try scumhunting. All his votes are jist omgus and hes still telling people he suspects them basically for not scumhunting or having strong reads. It doesn't get much worse. There is no reason we should not lynch thechyz day 1. Nothing in this post makes him obviously scum. JAT -- do you think that he believes what he's saying or do you not believe it? Haven't decided yet. I played maybe one game with this guy and I think it got aborted. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:46 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote: Chyz you are literally OMGUSing every new guy that calls you scum aren't you? tbh it's a wonderful style It is basically your style. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:48 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:47 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 02:46 marvellosity wrote: On January 01 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote: Chyz you are literally OMGUSing every new guy that calls you scum aren't you? tbh it's a wonderful style It is basically your style. why do you think i said it's wonderful Because it is your style. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:27 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:12 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote: Same same. Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously. Any thoughts about the game at hand? Thanks buddy. Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos. Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis Do you actually believe you'll get me lynched unless people vote me out of spite? Let me point you to something..... IAmRobik 0/14 = 0.0000% It will be 0/15 after this game. I think I'll get you lynched if you're scum or if you do not catch up to the thread. If you catch up and show that you are not scum, then I'll be happy to unvote you. Right now you are wasting space. We're getting off on the wrong foot -- see the thing is...i'm town, so even if i'm wasting space, you shouldn't lynch me...especially on day 1. Everyone here knows that I'm a super productive member of town, even if I'm a pain in the ass. So I implore you to give me the benefit of the doubt and just accept that I will come out firing when I have the time to put into the game -- which just so happens to be AFTER A FUCKING HOLIDAY Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such. On January 01 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote: Same same. Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously. Any thoughts about the game at hand? Thanks buddy. Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos. Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that? Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him. Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff What's the point of this question? On January 01 2015 02:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote: On January 01 2015 00:40 Koshi wrote: You say that the discussion was stupid, TheChyz stopped (or attempted) to stop the argument and steer the thread into another direction. Why would mafia do this? But that's the problem. He didn't actually do the latter part. He just entered the thread to say "hey this is a stupid argument, stop having it" without actually taking the discussion in a different direction. I feel like your posts have been giving Chyz a lot more credit than he's actually earned and it's starting to bother me. Attempt to steer the thread in WHAT DIRECTION? his fake read on eden that he himself said he wouldnt bother voting for? Popping in the thread to say hey guys, you all suck, peace out is scummy. All he did was try to shut ritoky down. All of chuz and koshi posts are fake scum posts. Do you have a scumread on Koshi? I'm not talking about anything really besides lynching TheChyz. I think Koshi is scum but I tend to forget who posted what and I've even voted for people if their username begins with the same latter as someone else who made a post. Like if Artanis and Alakaslam were in the game I might make that mistake. I think Koshi is the person who made many scummy posts but I'll follow up on that later. THe only thing that matters is that everyone also realizes that TheChyz is definitely mafia. Hammering that over and over will not make you being listened to. Just sayin. It would be appreciated if you didn't limit yourself to a tunnel this early in the game. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:56 Eden1892 wrote: Lol Doc can be town then, he's ninjad me like twice in a row. I get this bad feeling about Koshi too but I need to reread and make sure I'm not just being a donkey and suspecting someone for not seeing eye-to-eye with me. I ninjaed you multiple times in heavyweight III :p | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote: like as it stands I'd lynch Lazer over Chyz any day of the week. And I might lynch any uber-lurker before either of them. I think I agree with this. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:56 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 02:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:27 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:12 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: [quote] Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis Do you actually believe you'll get me lynched unless people vote me out of spite? Let me point you to something..... IAmRobik 0/14 = 0.0000% It will be 0/15 after this game. I think I'll get you lynched if you're scum or if you do not catch up to the thread. If you catch up and show that you are not scum, then I'll be happy to unvote you. Right now you are wasting space. We're getting off on the wrong foot -- see the thing is...i'm town, so even if i'm wasting space, you shouldn't lynch me...especially on day 1. Everyone here knows that I'm a super productive member of town, even if I'm a pain in the ass. So I implore you to give me the benefit of the doubt and just accept that I will come out firing when I have the time to put into the game -- which just so happens to be AFTER A FUCKING HOLIDAY Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such. On January 01 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 01:58 justanothertownie wrote: Same same. Doing fine. Won't be around as much as usual today obviously. Any thoughts about the game at hand? Thanks buddy. Regarding the game...I have absolutely no ideas as I have read maybe like 3 total posts. I thought this would start Friday, so I was kinda surprised when I saw there were 13-14 pages. I"m kinda intimidated now that there are 25 pages and my desire to catch up is non-existent. I will give you my assurance that I have rolled quite the favorable alliance (given my extreme disdain for rolling mafia, it should be easy to figure out what that is), and I will be helping in the mass execution of all mafiosos. Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that? Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him. Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff What's the point of this question? On January 01 2015 02:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote: On January 01 2015 00:40 Koshi wrote: You say that the discussion was stupid, TheChyz stopped (or attempted) to stop the argument and steer the thread into another direction. Why would mafia do this? But that's the problem. He didn't actually do the latter part. He just entered the thread to say "hey this is a stupid argument, stop having it" without actually taking the discussion in a different direction. I feel like your posts have been giving Chyz a lot more credit than he's actually earned and it's starting to bother me. Attempt to steer the thread in WHAT DIRECTION? his fake read on eden that he himself said he wouldnt bother voting for? Popping in the thread to say hey guys, you all suck, peace out is scummy. All he did was try to shut ritoky down. All of chuz and koshi posts are fake scum posts. Do you have a scumread on Koshi? I'm not talking about anything really besides lynching TheChyz. I think Koshi is scum but I tend to forget who posted what and I've even voted for people if their username begins with the same latter as someone else who made a post. Like if Artanis and Alakaslam were in the game I might make that mistake. I think Koshi is the person who made many scummy posts but I'll follow up on that later. THe only thing that matters is that everyone also realizes that TheChyz is definitely mafia. Hammering that over and over will not make you being listened to. Just sayin. It would be appreciated if you didn't limit yourself to a tunnel this early in the game. TheChyz is mafia and if you don't agree you should look at his filter more yourself. I will tunnel anyone I want to tunnel, don't tell me to drop a case do you know how bad that makes you look I don't care how bad you think it makes me look. You can of course keep pushing this. What I said is you shouldn't limit yourself to it if you are town. Repeating the same things over and over is not productive or even helpful to your case. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:02 Eden1892 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 02:56 Eden1892 wrote: Lol Doc can be town then, he's ninjad me like twice in a row. I get this bad feeling about Koshi too but I need to reread and make sure I'm not just being a donkey and suspecting someone for not seeing eye-to-eye with me. I ninjaed you multiple times in heavyweight III :p Lol. Yeah and my town game has gone into a tailspin ever since. You wouldn't believe how many townies have ninja'd me that I've mislynched for "trying to play me" after that game. I finally made up my mind just to trust people who ninja me multiple times and assume that mafia won't do it often enough to be worth suspecting people over, not sure how well it'll work (first game since that decision) but I'm hoping it will. While you're here jat can you remind me of your opinion on Chyz? I forget it lol, sorry man. I don't really have a strong opinion on Chyz yet but I do not think that Dr. Hs case makes him mafia. Townies can be hypocrites, townies can be paranoid and townies do OMGUS. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:03 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 03:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:56 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 02:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:27 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 02:16 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 02:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: [quote] I think I'll get you lynched if you're scum or if you do not catch up to the thread. If you catch up and show that you are not scum, then I'll be happy to unvote you. Right now you are wasting space. We're getting off on the wrong foot -- see the thing is...i'm town, so even if i'm wasting space, you shouldn't lynch me...especially on day 1. Everyone here knows that I'm a super productive member of town, even if I'm a pain in the ass. So I implore you to give me the benefit of the doubt and just accept that I will come out firing when I have the time to put into the game -- which just so happens to be AFTER A FUCKING HOLIDAY Calm down dear, you still have until the deadline to show as such. On January 01 2015 02:16 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: [quote] Hi Robik. I will lynch you if you do not read the thread. I hope that is enough motivation. Kind regards, Artanis So Artanis, why are you focusing on Robik so much for not reading the thread? GB has said that hes not reading the thread and won't catch up today for sure but you haven't even mentioned that? Because Robik has said Hi like 3 times during the day showing he was present. Besides, I'm familiar with Robik and I like annoying him. Since you aren't in the mood to lynch geript today, are you going to try to push robik down the lynch today? Or just trying to get him to do stuff What's the point of this question? On January 01 2015 02:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Eden1892 wrote: On January 01 2015 00:40 Koshi wrote: You say that the discussion was stupid, TheChyz stopped (or attempted) to stop the argument and steer the thread into another direction. Why would mafia do this? But that's the problem. He didn't actually do the latter part. He just entered the thread to say "hey this is a stupid argument, stop having it" without actually taking the discussion in a different direction. I feel like your posts have been giving Chyz a lot more credit than he's actually earned and it's starting to bother me. Attempt to steer the thread in WHAT DIRECTION? his fake read on eden that he himself said he wouldnt bother voting for? Popping in the thread to say hey guys, you all suck, peace out is scummy. All he did was try to shut ritoky down. All of chuz and koshi posts are fake scum posts. Do you have a scumread on Koshi? I'm not talking about anything really besides lynching TheChyz. I think Koshi is scum but I tend to forget who posted what and I've even voted for people if their username begins with the same latter as someone else who made a post. Like if Artanis and Alakaslam were in the game I might make that mistake. I think Koshi is the person who made many scummy posts but I'll follow up on that later. THe only thing that matters is that everyone also realizes that TheChyz is definitely mafia. Hammering that over and over will not make you being listened to. Just sayin. It would be appreciated if you didn't limit yourself to a tunnel this early in the game. TheChyz is mafia and if you don't agree you should look at his filter more yourself. I will tunnel anyone I want to tunnel, don't tell me to drop a case do you know how bad that makes you look I don't care how bad you think it makes me look. You can of course keep pushing this. What I said is you shouldn't limit yourself to it if you are town. Repeating the same things over and over is not productive or even helpful to your case. Thanks for the advice. Can you explain why TheChyz's initial read on eden makes any sense please? I see no reason to think it doesn't make sense... | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He singles out eden for being noncommittal, defensive, non-aggressive, etc. yet Eden for the whole thread was pressuring people with good questions, putting in effort trying to get a read on me and he actually made a small case for Chyz and voted for him. Only I had voted up until that point. Then he says his own read isn't good enough to vote for, considering that, why would his stance about eden being wishy washy hold any weight Like I said. Hypocrisy is not a thing only scum does. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value. talking about YOU* | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 03:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He singles out eden for being noncommittal, defensive, non-aggressive, etc. yet Eden for the whole thread was pressuring people with good questions, putting in effort trying to get a read on me and he actually made a small case for Chyz and voted for him. Only I had voted up until that point. Then he says his own read isn't good enough to vote for, considering that, why would his stance about eden being wishy washy hold any weight Like I said. Hypocrisy is not a thing only scum does. Because the read was fabricated. He's accusing eden of doing things eden didn't do, then calls the read garbage, then says it was good again but he won't commit to it until later, then flames me for a while, then calls out lazermonkey for not having a strong read or something. So? We aren't getting anywhere here. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning. I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass I think he brings up a very good point there. But unfortunately I also think it is better not to lynch you right now :/ | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:21 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote: On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you? Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why? Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters. I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read. However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum The fact that people are talking about does not mean that you said anything of value. I kinda agree that ritoky said nothing of value. I think I somewhat disagree, I think its valuable because of being able to figure out alignments. But that's not exactly my point. The point is laz is giving drh a free pass for the day even though he says deh says a lot of bad things but its more of a null read. (reads like setting up a mislynch later) The Eden read seems like a scum read without any real conclusions. And the rit part is just null. I just don't like where he's going and seems made up a bit Fair enough. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:23 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:20 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 02:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Can't we just lynch Robik instead? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and his streak breaks or he's scum and we get closer to winning. I'm not even scummy. Get your head out of your ass Let me help Robik Artanis[Xp] 0/17 = 0.0000% Can't we just lynch Artanis? It's a win/win situation. Either he's town and we break his streak or he's scum and we get closer to winning. Artanis only has this stat to show since he replaced out of heavyweight like a pussy though. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So what if someone fabricates a read? Are you serious? He went from defending it for different reasons, to calling it garbage and not disagreeing with my dismissal of it, then saying again that he's sticking with his eden read, then dropping it to make the same accusations against lazermonkey which were hypocritical anyway. I guess that's considered good town play now? I never said that it is good townplay. But I have enough experience to know that town players are not always playing well. I think you should too. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:33 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:26 TheChyz wrote: I remember geript making a post about dr.H being a bully when mafia. Does anybody else agree with this? I was fine with dr.H like 8 hours ago because it seemed like he was trying to scum hunt. Now it just looks like hes trying to filter spam the same thing over and over and trying push a vote. 8 hours ago you voted for Dr.H. So I wouldn't say "you were fine with him". Anyway Dr.H. is also not getting lynched today. Yup. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:34 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Look. This is @JAT Anyone can come in halfway through Day 1 and point out a bunch of people who aren't committed to anything. It takes a long time for people to get entrenched and confident in their reads and it's a VERY easy time for mafia to come in and either FoS or vote for anybody on those grounds. The fact that he chose to do that on a player (eden) who didn't fit his stated reasoning (eden wasn't being defensive or noncommittal or any of those things) is very strange. If he said that about somebody else and it were true I wouldn't have been very interested at all and would agree, like he said, that it was just the best thing he had going. But the reasons were fake. His behavior since has been just as wishy washy and bad, calling me a filter spammer and not addressing anything. Not doing anything to LazerMonkey even when Marv threw his support behind that. Uses the same one size fits all Day 1 case for LazerMonkey as he used for his eden read, everything this guy is doing is setting off red flags for me left and right. Could be a youngminii situation but mafia is about taking risks. I won't be right 100% of the time but even if TheChyz is newb town scum is sweating if they know I'm willing to tunnel like this. Fine then we just have to agree to disagree. Coming in and calling someone out for something that he supposedly didn't do is something I see town players do way more often than scummers. | ||
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On January 01 2015 04:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript marv thechyz koshi and someone else i think. Are there 5 scum or 6? Are all of those associative reads or do you have actual reasons besides "they defended chyz"? 5 scum btw. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 04:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript marv thechyz koshi and someone else i think. Are there 5 scum or 6? Are all of those associative reads or do you have actual reasons besides "they defended chyz"? 5 scum btw. A little bit of bothm Just throwing that out there. If ritoky is scum thats more interesting. Marv wouldnt bus ritoky this early probably so i dont think theyd be on the same team. Dunno about other guys i havent even looked at but i will get around to looking closely at lazermonkey and some others. The reasons don't matter yet. Oh, the reasons actually matter a lot. Don't throw out reads that you aren't willing to explain. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: That's not what I meant. Town is on a need to know basis. I don't need to explain anything to you if I choose not to. You don't need to but it is in your best interest to do so if you are town. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:20 Eden1892 wrote: Ugh I don't want to sound like an attention whore but why are my posts being ignored. JAT, Doc, etc., thoughts on geript? His filter looks like a lot of posting for its own sake and I don't get the sense he's trying to find mafia. I already said that I don't like geript so far. Seeing no reason to change that. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Mafia loves knowing everything u think. Trust me Town does too. Playing games almost never makes a mafia out himself - it just annoys fellow townies. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I've seen and had plenty of good Day 1s. You're just doing the same thing here. It doesn't matter if we both agree on our reads for the most part. I think you're town, you probably think I'm town so let's forget it now. If you want to have an argument about the meta later we can. Because I do not agree and I think posting every read in thread is useless and detrimental to town. What is high and mighty about having a different opinion? I'm not going to be forthcoming with all of my thoughts and reads until I feel I can do something about them. Sorry I'm going to refocus on TheChyz in a minute, reflecting on it I think I can make a much better case. I'm pretty sure geript is scum too, but that's based on my memory of the thread and not an actual re-reading. I will do both and whichever gains more traction I'd be willing to vote for. Unless my read changes on geript of course. Maybe you are town but I am not sure about that yet and reasoning out your reads could very well help with that. I can't force you though. Even a short one about marv (for example) would be nice because I seriously don't know how you can have a scumread on him at this point in time. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:24 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Mafia loves knowing everything u think. Trust me Town does too. Playing games almost never makes a mafia out himself - it just annoys fellow townies. it doesn't work because of the way you responded to it Yeah, yeah. Sure. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:35 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I've seen and had plenty of good Day 1s. You're just doing the same thing here. It doesn't matter if we both agree on our reads for the most part. I think you're town, you probably think I'm town so let's forget it now. If you want to have an argument about the meta later we can. Because I do not agree and I think posting every read in thread is useless and detrimental to town. What is high and mighty about having a different opinion? I'm not going to be forthcoming with all of my thoughts and reads until I feel I can do something about them. Sorry I'm going to refocus on TheChyz in a minute, reflecting on it I think I can make a much better case. I'm pretty sure geript is scum too, but that's based on my memory of the thread and not an actual re-reading. I will do both and whichever gains more traction I'd be willing to vote for. Unless my read changes on geript of course. Maybe you are town but I am not sure about that yet and reasoning out your reads could very well help with that. I can't force you though. Even a short one about marv (for example) would be nice because I seriously don't know how you can have a scumread on him at this point in time. It's a gut feeling and I just wanted to see how he'd respond. He seems way too passive to me and I think if he was town he'd be a little more aggressive or serious. I need to see a lot more from him before I can say anything that matters. Fine. Just keep in mind that being serious is definitely no towntell for him. If he keeps being passive we will lynch him day1 anyways. Like we did last game. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? I am still up for ritoky or lazermonkey. Those aren't strong reads though. I would much rather do a POE list but so many people haven't posted yet... | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:41 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 05:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 05:35 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 05:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I've seen and had plenty of good Day 1s. You're just doing the same thing here. It doesn't matter if we both agree on our reads for the most part. I think you're town, you probably think I'm town so let's forget it now. If you want to have an argument about the meta later we can. Because I do not agree and I think posting every read in thread is useless and detrimental to town. What is high and mighty about having a different opinion? I'm not going to be forthcoming with all of my thoughts and reads until I feel I can do something about them. Sorry I'm going to refocus on TheChyz in a minute, reflecting on it I think I can make a much better case. I'm pretty sure geript is scum too, but that's based on my memory of the thread and not an actual re-reading. I will do both and whichever gains more traction I'd be willing to vote for. Unless my read changes on geript of course. Maybe you are town but I am not sure about that yet and reasoning out your reads could very well help with that. I can't force you though. Even a short one about marv (for example) would be nice because I seriously don't know how you can have a scumread on him at this point in time. It's a gut feeling and I just wanted to see how he'd respond. He seems way too passive to me and I think if he was town he'd be a little more aggressive or serious. I need to see a lot more from him before I can say anything that matters. Fine. Just keep in mind that being serious is definitely no towntell for him. If he keeps being passive we will lynch him day1 anyways. Like we did last game. serious is the wrong word. i feel like he's trying not to make anyone tilt and marv isn't the kind of person who is concerned with annoying anybody That is certainly true. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote: Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal? I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him. The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz. So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz. First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people. Second, this post is really townie imo: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town. Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now? | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list. First of all I never OMGUS'd any of Chyz's defenders. Your main read is geript right? That's my second choice read. Why would I add batsnacks to the lynch list? Why would you if you're not just being sarcastic right now and I'm misunderstanding? You said yourself you won't even bother reading any case I make on TheChyz so just ignore everything I say if that's what you need to do. 100% of this game should be tunneling TheChyz. 16% is not nearly enough. What are you even talking about? This is not about you but about batsnacks. He just made a post rehashing what everyone already said. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 06:12 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 06:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe we can add batsnacks to the lynch list. First of all I never OMGUS'd any of Chyz's defenders. Your main read is geript right? That's my second choice read. Why would I add batsnacks to the lynch list? Why would you if you're not just being sarcastic right now and I'm misunderstanding? You said yourself you won't even bother reading any case I make on TheChyz so just ignore everything I say if that's what you need to do. 100% of this game should be tunneling TheChyz. 16% is not nearly enough. What are you even talking about? This is not about you but about batsnacks. He just made a post rehashing what everyone already said. Paranoid. Yeah I agree with you, my first thought was he stole Edens post. Just a misunderstanding. Will you please read my second case on TheChyz and the meta read as well? If you still think it's worthless I would like to lynch Robik probably. If he is a good and prolific town player like I've heard people say in the thread than his play is shocking rn I will maybe do that tomorrow. And I don't think I want to lynch Robik today. Activity tells are pretty fucked up right now due to the timing of the start for this game. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:15 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 06:04 justanothertownie wrote: On January 01 2015 06:02 batsnacks wrote: Has anyone played with DrH before? Is this normal? I feel like I would be more likely to vote TheChyz if DrH wasn't pushing him. The thread is about 30 pages long. DrH has about about a 5 page filter, of which ~90% of his filter is tunneling TheChyz. So ~16% of the game is DrH tunneling TheChyz. First, I think that's way too much focus on a single person in a 20 person game. DrH is the only person voting TheChyz, and I haven't heard anyone say "I agree with your case DrH," so he's obviously not reaching people. Second, this post is really townie imo: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. So I think my conclusion would be that DrH's tunnel is not helping town. Did you figure all this out on your own? Or did you just read the thread and saw that everyone has been saying this for ages now? Yes I did all the math myself too. wow | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:13 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 06:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 01 2015 05:49 geript wrote: On January 01 2015 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Geript you asked me about 3 people earlier, one of them was sicklucker then you never really got back to the post after I mentioned he escaped me. Was there anything about him that you found of note? I'm scrolling through his filter and it's not bad. I find how much he holds onto the expected meta case a bit weird and wasn't sure what to think of it. That and I don't feel like spending an hour to read 4 other games when he only has a 2 page filter. Plus I don't want to go back and have to figure out his usual post count and content per day. Alright, let's reconstruct this. I believe it started here: On December 31 2014 14:35 sicklucker wrote: ##vote geript for voting for shitty reasons because mafia would do that right? ;p Geript replies 10 minutes later asking if he only played town before, then asks for a link to his previous scumgame which sicklucker declines. Sicklucker then brings it up again later (Geript asks for an opinion from Dr. H in the meantime) after which: On December 31 2014 15:57 geript wrote: On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote: Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot. It's ok babygirl. I've never meta'd anyone ever before. You'll be getting my meta v-card. Possibly a joke, but it could definitely be interpreted as serious. If he does interpret it as serious I can see someone like sicklucker chasing the bone. Given his pretty proactive game so far I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Is that your only reason for finding him suspect? That and he thinks I'm mafia so I naturally want to kill him. But for the most part yah that's all. While in the shower I realized why I think Marv's mafia. Town!Marv doesn't fear lynch; he definitely doesn't fear lynch on D1. How is marv fearlynching? Are you for real? | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's not like he would think "oh if i keep koshi on my side that will save me" just hours into the game with 1 vote on him and be paralyzed to join the thread in shitting on koshi to get himself easier credibility True. Also someone had already said how towny it would be to go against your own defender before he did so if I remember that correctly. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:07 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote: Batsnacks just keeps providing new ideas noone ever had. So impressive. bitch pls I was the first person to point that out. On January 01 2015 06:37 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 06:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: it's not like he would think "oh if i keep koshi on my side that will save me" just hours into the game with 1 vote on him and be paralyzed to join the thread in shitting on koshi to get himself easier credibility True. Also someone had already said how towny it would be to go against your own defender before he did so if I remember that correctly. bitch pls | ||
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On January 02 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote: JAT. Parroting other players. Does it as both alignments, no idea what he is. Don't particularly care for now. Sure that you read the game bro? lol | ||
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On January 01 2015 22:03 IAmRobik wrote: Hi. I might still be drunk. Where the fuck is my homeboy marv?!?!? What are his reads? Good question. On January 01 2015 23:18 Superbia wrote: Pretty sure Ritoky claimed mafia with that big post. I'll read the rest of the thread later to find the other 4. ##Vote: Ritoky Might aswell explain this first. On January 01 2015 23:59 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 23:56 IAmRobik wrote: On January 01 2015 23:53 Koshi wrote: I am not up for lynching ritoky I think. Looked ok. Ballsy at multiple places. Could be town being honest. I guess Koshi is a bit less present as he is used to be. But we all should go back 6 months in time and give Koshi till Day 3. When he is mafia it gets really obvious simply because within 3 days I somewhere bled town. I would suggest to lynch somebody who seems to be doing something but really isn't doing anything. I don't like the latter portion of this plan. It sounds like you're saying my name without saying my name. I wanted to add "but not Koshi" at the end. So it might be a good thing you also think like me. I don't know yet who I want to lynch. Maybe I should look into Eden and Kelsier. They got both pretty good posts and I wouldn't consider them at all. But for some reason geript has them on top of his scumlist. I'll go from there. Why does it matter if geript has them as top scumreads? On January 02 2015 00:02 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi again. I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can. As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch! "this is what I should say to appear town" To me this sounds just like, if I defend myself I look scum, so im just going to act like ibwant to scum hunt. Really forced and formulaic statement. Also if you admit you sucked yesterday then how can the case on you be weak? Explain why the case is weak I agree with this. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:05 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote: Palmar, how do we handle marv today? If he really is intentionally playing bad as town then I have no problem mislynching him to be honest. This game is normal. Nothing crazy can happen. We can lynch marv D3 and we can be sure we will reach D3. The few things marv said were pretty ok. It felt correct at that time in the game. Nothing felt odd. Nothing felt forced. It made sense. I would go with other people for today. I felt the same way but then why isn't he posting at all today? meh | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote: Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw. Elaborate. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote: Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw. Elaborate. Basically what Artanis said. marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it. Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target? If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 01 2015 06:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yeah, of course I think it's intentional. I will rehash my three main cases in spoilers here. If people are finally listening just read carefully. I'm a terrible writer these days so I can clear up any reasoning that seems fuzzy or unclear to anybody. First: this is about Chyz's read of eden being artificial. It's the least convincing case but I think in the greater context it still looks really bad. This is kind of all over the place so I'd be glad to restate the points more clearly if I need to. + Show Spoiler + On December 31 2014 18:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: TheChyz is mafia The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context. Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red. Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:22 TheChyz wrote: Nah i just don't like conversations going in circles for years on end. Eden is sticking out to me as my largest scum read because the constant defensive wording in each post where there always seems to be some idea of not jumpin on somebody too strongly. Just doesn't sit right about how cautious he/she (sorry dont know) is trying to be when there is literally no reason to be cautious other than being afraid of having heat thrown his/her way. dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point. Let's sum up the Eden read: 1. Eden is my largest scum read. 2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly. 4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully. Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia? Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:17 Eden1892 wrote: in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't. ##VOTE: TheChyz This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is 1. Defensive 2. Not jumping on anyone 3. Too cautious This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him. Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote: He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean. 1. Everyone is suspicious 2. I am suspicious 3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right. I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter! I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself. Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:30 TheChyz wrote: I don't have a reason to vote for eden. Because someone is my largest scum read (at this point in the game that means he is the least towny out of all like, what , 5 players) doesn't mean i need to vote on him. Garbage vote atm so why would i do it? With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant. 1. Eden is my largest scumread. 2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up) 4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful. 5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right. 6. I have no reason to vote for Eden. 7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote. 8. Eden is the least towny of all the players. And then: Show nested quote + On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it Second: I think the most damning. On January 01 2015 05:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote: TheChyz On January 01 2015 03:16 TheChyz wrote: does anybody have a read on lazer? I really feel like all of the posts hes made have very little commitment behind then and its as if he is scared to reach too and just goes for easy already discussed stuff. Also his last 3 "reads" are just a summation of stuff and I congratulate him for being able to read and repeat stuff but nothing at all has come out of him at all. Even you dr.H, I may be hypocritical to you about lazer, but don't you agree? Or are you just tunneling and trying to prove how wrong you are at the end? Seeking thread approval. His read is bullshit so he wants to see if someone buys into his reasoning. This is a textbook example of a noncommittal read. Nice way of deflecting at the end too. My argument was 100% at that point about his read on eden being a fabrication. One size fits all argument. His question for me is meaningless because the premise of the question is false. Does anyone have a read on x seems like a weird question after: On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote: I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me. I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive. I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him. ##Vote: Lazermonkey This post comes before. He seems quite confident in his read here. Mafia players I think often structure their initial accusations to sound strong and back off more over time. Nothing about Koshi is suspicious to him and he only changes his mind later after quite a few other players put heat on Koshi. He has nothing to say about geript so I don't know why he even included it. Maybe this is one of the useful thoughts all townies should share. Since TheChyz is confident enough to vote for Lazermonkey (something he refused to do for eden who was his largest scumread at the time which he never technically dropped) I went ahead and looked at lazermonkey. On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi everyone Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz Good post. Even if he is wrong about Chyz's alignment, he's noticing the right things. On January 01 2015 00:38 Lazermonkey wrote: On December 31 2014 15:17 geript wrote: So you don't find Robik who is normally an exceptionally prolific poster as town posting "Hello?" twice and then fucking off when he got ignored interesting in the slightest? I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk. I was scum that game. Interesting. Chyz's accusations don't quite fit what Lazermonkey was doing here. " The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right." First of all Chyz is actually agreeing with the read. His point of suspicion is that LazerMonkey doesn't have any other scumreads he's pushing besides him. What's wrong with that exactly? On January 01 2015 02:06 TheChyz wrote: I don't usually pay much attention to people until they actually do something. Ionno, its kinda like ppl policy lynching lurkers and such (since that is kinda what robik is doing). By no means is he town but also saying nothing is not really anything to jump on top of, at least not yet anyway. Usually lurkers lurk by day 1 and if he wants to do that, fine. Doesn't mean he will probably last day 2 if he continues that way. By entrance I meant more like the first few posts of the game. Ionno, it just felt very similar to the other time I played with him in which he was town. I don't think any of the posts on geript hold any real substance (unless I scimmed through an important one too quickly) and are kinda more like peoples soft reads on him. Bolded. LazerMonkey didn't jump all over Robik for anything especially since his read was just revealed as a response to geripts question. He focuses his attention on TheChyz for the most part, read LazerMonkey's filter. On January 01 2015 01:39 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 01 2015 01:15 KelsierSC wrote: Laazermonkey I have "your" chyz read , can you give some thoughts about other players in the game? Outside of Robik and Chyz, not too much. geript I'm a bit torn on. Initially, I thought he was a bit scummy (waiting for Palmar, Marv etc) but he has been active and was one of the players that really got the discussion going. This is making me like him somewhat, as scum there is no reason to be that active in the start of the game really. Slight town read on him. I think sicklurker posted some relevant things at the start of the game. Not much though, but a slight town read this far. He's even forthcoming when asked about it. This is an obvious case of "Chyz is my top read so I'm focusing on him" and considering LazerMonkey's lower activity this is the right kind of production. In fact, yet again LazerMonkey has been much more confident and open about his reads than TheChyz has. All of his votes are OMGUS with weak reasoning and look at how he backs down from me (in chronological order): On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica On December 31 2014 17:41 TheChyz wrote: On December 31 2014 17:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On December 31 2014 17:36 TheChyz wrote: Meh now i see how ritoky got caught in that discussion with you it is. I have nothing to prove to you since your threatening me with what? Not following my day 1 talk. sounds fimilar. A bandwagon. I'm nearly 100% convinced that you're mafia. I encourage everyone to vote for you and will spend as much time as I need to convince them and to force you to keep defending yourself over and over again. You don't have to reply to me if you think it's a waste of time. I might not succeed if you just ignore me. Put your money where your mouth is and vote, or do you like to just spew fluff left and right? On December 31 2014 17:53 TheChyz wrote: Does anybody else find it strange that after making that case on my and my "garbage" read and all that that when dr.H finally mans up and says that I'm 100% scum and basically will do anything to get me lynched and the proceeds to just leave it at that. No vote, nothing. Seems like he just wants to start a bullshit case on me and hope others latch on. If nothing happens he will probs just drop it. Really scummish to me. Anybody else have opinions on dr.H?seeking approval On January 01 2015 03:26 TheChyz wrote: I remember geript making a post about dr.H being a bully when mafia. Does anybody else agree with this? I was fine with dr.H like 8 hours ago because it seemed like he was trying to scum hunt. Now it just looks like hes trying to filter spam the same thing over and over and trying push a vote. 8 hours ago I was tunneling him and he was calling me a donkey idiot and voting for me and trying to convince others to vote for me or feel suspicious about me. He liked that I was trying to scum hunt when I was posting cases on him and trying to get people to vote for him? Self admitted guilt. No way town would congratulate another townie for tunneling them cause it was a great effort or something. What the fuck? On January 01 2015 03:41 TheChyz wrote: On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica I think it was fairly obvious this wasn't a serious read... And I was really tired and a bit annoyed so wanted to let off a bit of steam. You made an obvious attempt to sell it to the rest of the thread. Straight up lying. Is this enough to lynch the chyz now? I can always go back and explain how his eden read was fabricated bullshit too. Third: behaving inconsistent with his town meta + Show Spoiler + On January 01 2015 06:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You could also look at how much more confidently TheChyz plays in cultured mini mafia where he was town: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia?user=TheChyz Show nested quote + On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote: kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote: On February 26 2014 12:26 TheChyz wrote: Hey geript I'm not a moron you know. My memory lasts more than a few minutes. Would you mind explain why rayn and toad can't be scum together. (for the third time...) A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind. All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. ##Vote geript His first vote in this game is thought out and much more thoroughly explained. He makes no attempt at all to gain approval from the thread or ask anyones opinion. Wonder how good the odds are that still no one will evem read all this I believe in the philosophy that if you can't explain a scumread in a few sentences it's not a good scumread. I think Syllogism once said something in that sense. Palmar did that quite well. I'm waiting for your tl;dr edition on your TheChyz read. This is so true. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So if I make a long post it will get ignored and if I cobble together a few sentences no one will listen because I'm already hated in this game. You are not hated. People just tend to ignore players that are tunneling so hard and walls of text are generally annoying to read. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote: Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw. Elaborate. Basically what Artanis said. marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it. Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target? If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: You didn't even give a read on marv. I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1. I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town. | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:48 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for. Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today. ##Unvote ##Vote: geript :D | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote: Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw. Elaborate. Basically what Artanis said. marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it. Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target? If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1. On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: You didn't even give a read on marv. I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1. I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town. So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument. Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game? | ||
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On January 02 2015 02:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:49 Damdred wrote: On January 02 2015 02:45 KelsierSC wrote: On January 02 2015 02:42 Damdred wrote: Where he said he was ok with Dr h but previously he was voting him etc., it very much could be catching in a lie meh I read that as more frustration with DrH tunneling on him and having garbage reads. In fact he prefaces it, as such. On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica seems more like a joke to me Meh, I could see that. Either way like I said I don't think it makes him mafia in either case as townies can do that as well. His vote on me was a bit of a joke but doesn't make it any less of a lie. Why would townie pat anyone on the back for tunneling them? I was fine? When I was tunneling him 8 hours ago and then later he says "oh yeah i was really pissed off and annoyed and that's why I ..." so which is it? was he fine with me when I was "Trying to scum hunt" by tunneling him or was he annoyed? I can't really tell, I think he just wants to avoid any heat Being fine with you could mean he thinks you are town in this case. Not that he is fine with your play. | ||
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On January 02 2015 03:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote: Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw. Elaborate. Basically what Artanis said. marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it. Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target? If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1. On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: You didn't even give a read on marv. I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1. I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town. So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument. Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game? o.O really? I've never played with scum marv. I guess that makes your argument more valid. Still, do you think he is the BEST lynch for today? If he doesn't show up and pushes something today, possibly. | ||
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On January 02 2015 03:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote: not to mention his initial "largest scumread" was eden . thechyz says he's suspicious for being wishy washy etc but at that point eden had already voted and made his thoughts quite clear. chyz never pressures eden or asks him any questions, nothing. barely has anything to say to his top suspect lazermonkey later. always seeking town points or people to agree w/ him the fact that LM came out with a case on thechyz that had nothing to do with mine and is being accused of "just agreeing with everyone" or "parroting" is either mafia intention or very lazy reading. Show nested quote + On February 26 2014 16:38 TheChyz wrote: kk. With geript I still have a problem of how he was so quick to say that rayn and toad couldn't be scum together. There was no explanation why he made that conclusion until I finally made him answer with On February 26 2014 12:33 geript wrote: On February 26 2014 12:26 TheChyz wrote: Hey geript I'm not a moron you know. My memory lasts more than a few minutes. Would you mind explain why rayn and toad can't be scum together. (for the third time...) A few things. One is how chummy they are early makes it unlikely they'd be together. Second, Rayn is probably town for his geript cop joke; it took me like 3 minutes to get that one. Third, I like Rayn's WoS vote and minor push; WoS has been trolling really weird to start off with and isn't his usual witty self. Fourth, they wouldn't both likely push back against me as scum together this early. Like I'm apparently unreadable to people which is totally crazy in my mind. All of these points are terrible. It seems more like he just put out some random statement and after being asked to answer on it it seems like he is backtracking. See how he goes to make several points. Not only does it seem like he is trying to be over defensive but that most of them are just a big pile of poop. Let's go over the points: 1) I don't even know what chummy means but it seems like the way you guys are acting early on. Again that doesn't really say anything and is something anybody can say about almost anything. 2) He is backtracking to a joke rayn made that makes him town? Well shit i think he just solved mafia. People making jokes = town. I don't understand the context but I believe that is irrelevant. 3) I don't even understand this one. Something again that rayn is towny to him. 4) Saying how its unlikely for something to happen which does not seem unlikely at all. In all of these points, NOTHING again answers why he think rayn and toad cannot be scum together. If anything it seems more like he is developing a rayn town read. This all seems like a load of backtracking and most likely hoping that he wouldn't get called out for his words before hand. Apart from that everything else just has no effort to even try and scum hunt. Thought he was kinda scummy but not this scummy until re-reading his filter now. ##Vote geript This is on page 1 of his filter of Cultured. He was town in this game. Look at the confidence he has so early on. When I ask him about eden he has nothing to say and then calls it a garbage vote and a pretty weak read. Another interesting thing is in cultured when TheChyz posts a read he feels is soft or not fully formed yet, he admits it right away and doesn't just ask for other peoples support. In this game he only admits his read isn't worth anything if you ask him. Was he under heavy pressure in that game like he was here? It can make a big difference. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:36 marvellosity wrote: why? I mean naturally I agree, but why Do you agree that his defense of you looks fishy? | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks? I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me Noted. On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks? I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread. I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:42 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote: Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw. Elaborate. Basically what Artanis said. marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it. Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target? If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1. On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: You didn't even give a read on marv. I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1. I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town. So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument. Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game? jat this is so weak -.- No, it is simply the truth and you know it. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:44 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 04:43 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 04:42 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] Elaborate. Basically what Artanis said. marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it. Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target? If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1. On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: You didn't even give a read on marv. I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1. I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town. So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument. Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game? jat this is so weak -.- No, it is simply the truth and you know it. yes, but it's weak as shit to be using it on this particular day. bad jat. It is weaker than usual but I can't just ignore it because it is a holiday now, can I? | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:48 Koshi wrote: Superbia/batsnacks/geript/Lazermonkey/GlowingBear ezgame ezlife Why is Superbia scum and RoL isn't? | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:50 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 04:49 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 04:48 Koshi wrote: Superbia/batsnacks/geript/Lazermonkey/GlowingBear ezgame ezlife Why is Superbia scum and RoL isn't? 1 posted and 1 didn't. Incorrect. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:52 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 04:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks? I think batsnacks is scum. I hate all of his posts but i didnt want to lose on chyz for a while. I know you're not asking me but id be glad to discuss batsnacks as scum since chyz and geript are practically locked for me Noted. On January 02 2015 04:38 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 04:35 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, can I hear your opinion on batsnacks? I think his posting should mean he is mafia if we just go by meta, but I'm not really sure that he is after all. I'll try to explain more when I've finished reading the thread. I would really love to hear that. I have a similar feeling about him. Actually more unsure now I read his filter as a standalone. Kinda very straight up, not really ruffling play which is classic mafia bats. And the thing that made me think he's town was actually a terrible reason now i'm reading it again: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote: And this scummy too: On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote: I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right ##vote: IAmRobik I thought "this is so wrong, this makes me feel town on bats" just because it's the sort of thing he writes. now the reasoning feels a bit silly. dno, bats could be mafia but i'm not feeling it for some reason. some tone shenannies. his play is oddly in-between meta though. might make some sort of list. Good idea. Maybe that helps me with my lynch list. It is still way to big. Regarding batsnacks it definitely looks more like scum batsnacks. I don't know why I am not as certain as I was in FFL2. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: why glowingbear? you havent explained anything I guess he keeps town on a need to know basis... | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:00 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote: *robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile* what the fuck is this read? There are a few odd ones in there if I am not mistaken. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:19 marvellosity wrote: far, far too many nullers. See? That is my problem. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I also don't know if I like the list but it looks almost exactly like mine so I am fine with you. Do you have a specific reason for the Eden read? | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:30 TheChyz wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 05:10 TheChyz wrote: On January 02 2015 05:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote: Ritoky hasn't impressed me at all since yesterday. His failure to move on from the joke about a policy lynch ir whatever said to me disinterested and bad townie. Scumteam if they weren't totally stupid would tell him not to bring that up again considering he got heat from it before. He's a player I would put in the DT pile, i get stuck in the wifom But don't you find his large post just weird. Not even just the stuff he says inside of it but the format of it. Like he was in no need to give a read on every single person. I just find that pointless because not scum hunting and looks more defensive. Other than being scum and thinking you have heat and just throwing every read you have to try to appease people that your doing something or if you are town and know your going to die to give the rest of town your current reads I see no reason to do that. Therefore he falls into the scummy category, does he not? I just find no reason to talk about everybody instead of only the few which he has a good read/focus on. You're confirmed scum, no reason to have a conversation unless you would like to explain your various lies. You're breaking even further away from your town meta. Why are you buddying up to me to get approval on your read, just post your case and quote mine like i know you're capable of. You dont wanna put in effort for cases you know are crap, your mentality is changed a lot I think all of your cases are just shit meh cases that your trying to grasp a hold onto anything and make it be like. Oh he said this thing which I have nothing to say but it came at a WRONG TIME that seems opportunistic. Also almost all of your scum reads and town reads a few hours ago where mostly. "good things about chyz said" = scum, "bad things about chyz said" = town. THis game has been so unpleasant with you which is mostly why I'm ignore your shit posts on me. I really hope scum kills me night 1 so that can shut you up tbh. There is no way scum ever kills you. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. If you don't elaborate on this statement I will just take it as background noise. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 05:30 TheChyz wrote: On January 02 2015 05:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 05:10 TheChyz wrote: On January 02 2015 05:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote: Ritoky hasn't impressed me at all since yesterday. His failure to move on from the joke about a policy lynch ir whatever said to me disinterested and bad townie. Scumteam if they weren't totally stupid would tell him not to bring that up again considering he got heat from it before. He's a player I would put in the DT pile, i get stuck in the wifom But don't you find his large post just weird. Not even just the stuff he says inside of it but the format of it. Like he was in no need to give a read on every single person. I just find that pointless because not scum hunting and looks more defensive. Other than being scum and thinking you have heat and just throwing every read you have to try to appease people that your doing something or if you are town and know your going to die to give the rest of town your current reads I see no reason to do that. Therefore he falls into the scummy category, does he not? I just find no reason to talk about everybody instead of only the few which he has a good read/focus on. You're confirmed scum, no reason to have a conversation unless you would like to explain your various lies. You're breaking even further away from your town meta. Why are you buddying up to me to get approval on your read, just post your case and quote mine like i know you're capable of. You dont wanna put in effort for cases you know are crap, your mentality is changed a lot I think all of your cases are just shit meh cases that your trying to grasp a hold onto anything and make it be like. Oh he said this thing which I have nothing to say but it came at a WRONG TIME that seems opportunistic. Also almost all of your scum reads and town reads a few hours ago where mostly. "good things about chyz said" = scum, "bad things about chyz said" = town. THis game has been so unpleasant with you which is mostly why I'm ignore your shit posts on me. I really hope scum kills me night 1 so that can shut you up tbh. There is no way scum ever kills you. why not want me dead instead ??? | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I also don't know if I like the list but it looks almost exactly like mine so I am fine with you. Do you have a specific reason for the Eden read? I wasn't sure of his attack on Chyz at the beginning, but his posts since all sound natural. I also think the evolution of his Chyz read is townie - it actually looks like he's interested in his alignment, rather than trying to paint him as one or the other. if you read your filter yourself you'll see what i mean. Hmm. If it wasn't Eden we are talking about I would agree with this very much and in fact he also is on my do not lynch list still but I feel like he is considerably less towny than he was in heavyweight. I checked and the only difference between our lists is damdred. Why is he on yours? | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:41 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 05:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I also don't know if I like the list but it looks almost exactly like mine so I am fine with you. Do you have a specific reason for the Eden read? I wasn't sure of his attack on Chyz at the beginning, but his posts since all sound natural. I also think the evolution of his Chyz read is townie - it actually looks like he's interested in his alignment, rather than trying to paint him as one or the other. if you read your filter yourself you'll see what i mean. Hmm. If it wasn't Eden we are talking about I would agree with this very much and in fact he also is on my do not lynch list still but I feel like he is considerably less towny than he was in heavyweight. I checked and the only difference between our lists is damdred. Why is he on yours? damdred read is thin, but he's trying enough for me not to wanna go near lynching him today. i can't imagine the world where i decide to lynch Damdred today, which is what that list is essentially saying Ok. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:43 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:37 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 05:34 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 05:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 05:04 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why did you omgus a null read again? Your explanation just made it seem like you decided marv was mafia before anything happened i.e. fake read Who are you talking to and what about? You. It's quite possible that I just decided Marv was mafia because he felt off. Meh. Wouldn't be the first time I've jumped to conclusions. That said, his list is awful. feeling really good about it actually. is attacking me your only way out at this stage? is jat scum for agreeing with my list in its entirety? Lynch Marv Final answer. Marv is mafia. Never been wrong before boys. Never will. lol | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:47 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:43 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 05:41 geript wrote: On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. Look Here's my specific issues with the list. I'm in PoE, which I guess is explainable. Batsnacks idk. Haven't seen traps but as I recall he hasn't really be doing much of anything. When I reread sicklucker I think he might be town. I forget why, but it wasn't terribly memorable. Bat/rit both feel like coin flips instead of solid PoE targets. Plus, he's got Eden and kelsier as town. Kelsier might be when I reread him before crashing last night, but Eden's in a weird spot. I don't think Eden's town. It's even more troublesome that Marv finds Robik to be town. Robik is 0% town. Serioiusly. Town Robik is all over the place. He's aggressive. He does stuff. He pushes opinions. He's an overall jackass (much like myself sometimes). This game Robik doesn't care whatsoever. Robik hasn't posted much and he doesn't care. That's quite definitive of his scumplay. Koshi, he might be town, he might be scum. I'm really unsure because he's so convinced I'm mafia. Maybe it's just me who's exceptionally off this game, but it's really weird that both Koshi and Marv haven't picked up on or pushed Robik. It's really weird that Koshi comes in and thinks Eden is bad and then thinks he gets better. He started bad and then goes into lala land. your first paragraph is terrible especially, because it essentially describes the exact reasons that batsnacks and sicklucker have arrived there sicklucker isn't memorable and batsnacks isn't doing anything, and you can't see why they've made it to that list? for realsies? I can see that argument, but I remember getting a townread on sick. I think it had to do with something newbs usually do as town. Bat is maybe ok for no traps. The town list is actually far more damning in my opinion. There's no way you have a townread on Robik. Absolutely not. It also really bugs me that the town pile you've created is essentally a group of sycophants for you and Koshi right now other than perhaps Artanis. The townlist isn't actually a townlist. It is a do not lynch list. Unless I am really really wrong here. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:50 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:49 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 05:49 Palmar wrote: How are we looking on the lynch geript thing? good. If he's town, you're mafia. 100%. Just lay down and die if he flips town. palmar u so funnehh | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:51 Koshi wrote: Yeah, sadly I agree with Palmar. Why? Do you believe geript has a 100 % read on him? I don't think geript has a 100 % read on anyone. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:52 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:51 marvellosity wrote: it should actually be pretty obvious I am not mafia this game. Will be when geript flips mafia. If you're pushing some awful town lynch, you're probably scum. If it is an awful lynch why are YOU pushing it? | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:55 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:53 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 05:52 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 05:51 marvellosity wrote: it should actually be pretty obvious I am not mafia this game. Will be when geript flips mafia. If you're pushing some awful town lynch, you're probably scum. If it is an awful lynch why are YOU pushing it? No I'm pushing a great lynch on mafia geript. However if this is town geript then marv is pushing a really shitty lynch and is probably mafia or just bad. Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:04 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:03 justanothertownie wrote: Noone in this game ever gives reasons for his read on me. It's because your posts are super boring. You are super boring... | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:09 batsnacks wrote: I think geript is town and I think we should be lynching robik or lazormonkey. Feel free to try an convince us. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:10 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 06:09 batsnacks wrote: I think geript is town and I think we should be lynching robik or lazormonkey. Feel free to try an convince us. Who's "us" jat? Anyway maybe you or someone else can help me. Did anyone read this? Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 01:43 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 01:38 Damdred wrote: On January 02 2015 01:36 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 02 2015 01:32 Damdred wrote: @Lazer, how do you get from disliking Koshi pretty hardcore and seemily on the verge of scum reading him and then with just two posts from artanis you say that you don't want to vote him as much today? Then right before you say you don't want to lynch geript? Aren't you being guilty of what you charged koshi with not pushing your scum read, feels like you are afraid of calling koshi scum and sticking to it. and you feel way to agreeable Because I think what Artanis posted was relevant maybe? Not sure why you think I don't want to lynch geript? I just said I'm super cool with killing him! Explain why what art posted was able to change your mind so much? lol. I'm done talking with you. Its obvious that I agree with what he said, the fact that you are not grasping this is beyond me. I thought it was a good point and thats why I changed my opinion on him. If you agree or not with Artanis thats another story. But why hold the fact that I changed my opinion against me? Would you like it better if I tunneled the shit out of Koshi no matter what? I read it. So what? | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: And I do think people would've listened had you attempted to make an impact on the game. It just feels like you haven't tried to do so. I agree. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote: if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears. 1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though. True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:23 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote: if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears. 1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though. True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia. If geript is town, JAT is confirmed scum too. Cute. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote: if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears. 1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though. True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia. i don't think town-geript bullshits reasons on multiple people on my list if he is town. Maybe. I have seen town geript bullshit really hard though. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:23 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 06:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 06:16 marvellosity wrote: if someone can read geript's multiple criticisms of my list and conclude they are genuine objections rather than objections for the sake of objecting/trying to discredit me, i'm all ears. 1 fake e-sports dollar says you can't though. True but you have to realize that this does not necessarily make him mafia. If geript is town, JAT is confirmed scum too. I'm almost hoping geript is town now so we'll have back to back confirmed scum lynches. This sounds fantastic. Palmar so good at this game. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:34 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 06:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 02 2015 06:21 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 06:13 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i didnt read your case on geript palmar and i agreed with what marv said. am i scum if he flips town too? i think this is a bit much No, you're just another brick in the wall. Only marv is confirmed scum if he pushes a lynch on town geript. It doesn't seem like anyone agrees. It's pointless to talk about at the moment anyway. You'll still be able to say what you want after the flip. To be honest. There is more. I am town. Therefore geript must be mafia for TMI. How else would he know I'm town? Since you're certain Geript is mafia, if he's not you must be mafia too. 3 for 1. This is getting better and better. No I could be wrong. :OOOOOOOO | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:49 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote: How about you just sheep this geript lynch Robik? I still don't trust you. You're trying too hard. Plus, I think that people wanting to lynch me are probably thinking about the game more than people who are TRing me. Having said that, I am town so the people not TRing me are wrong - but that doesn't make them mafia. 1) Palmar tried really hard last game. 2) You should say why geript is town instead if you want to convince anyone. | ||
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On January 02 2015 07:21 sicklucker wrote: I really dont like whos pushing this lynch tho. Koshi and marv are leaning scum for me. but its hard to justify not doing it. But I like the part where we lynch marv if you flip town. I don't think you are dumb enough to believe that we will lynch marv just because he is wrong on geript if that is the case. | ||
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On January 02 2015 07:31 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 07:04 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 06:49 IAmRobik wrote: On January 02 2015 06:47 Palmar wrote: How about you just sheep this geript lynch Robik? I still don't trust you. You're trying too hard. Plus, I think that people wanting to lynch me are probably thinking about the game more than people who are TRing me. Having said that, I am town so the people not TRing me are wrong - but that doesn't make them mafia. 1) Palmar tried really hard last game. 2) You should say why geript is town instead if you want to convince anyone. That was palmer trying? I mean I didnt try but after day 1 he checked out. Are you trying to tell me that Palmar didn't try day1 last game? Wtf is your point? | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:05 marvellosity wrote: no-one called you stupid dear ^ - parrotman | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 08:11 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It also reminds me of the times I catch a mafia day 1 and they all deflect and try to tilt me instead of responding to what i'm actually saying. just parrot "drh is stupid" until people believe it I think it would help you -a lot- if you tried making your case without using quotes at all. i wouldn't really know how. that was the common idea when I played including filling an entire persons post history with red and such. if you are all willing me to work with me on this, what would be a better way of presenting my case? do you know how frustrating it is to just straight up see people saying tl;dr in a game that relies on careful reading. You are right. This game relies on careful reading and this is exactly the reason why you should keep your cases short and to the point. Post by post analysis just clutters up the thread. If someone is scum he won't slip in every post he makes. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:20 Koshi wrote: LM is like confirmed town. There isn't a scummy soul that doesn't want to lynch him. This not an argument. Marv used this for Haru in heavyweight too. It just doesn't work. If a scummer is scumming hard then his teammates will bus him -> everyone wants to lynch him. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Ok my last two posts on him arent that long. Are you just gonna ignore it again anyway? Im not gonna stop beating this drum after that terrible lm analysis he just posted. I am tempted not to read it because I already saw that you quoted the same posts again and I don't think you will have something new to say about them. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote: Why is ritoky obsessing over the fact JAT is town and Artanis doesn't want to write it in caps? While this is indeed somewhat weird it would be much more productive to discuss something relevant instead. Ritoky correctly thinks I am town (if he is town) while Artanis is paranoid since I wrecked him as scum (if he is town). Noone wants to lynch me so this discussion is a waste of time. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote: I'm sold, DrH. The 8 hours ago he seemed fine" part was enough for me. ##Vote TheChyz Yeah? Could you tell me in your own words how it makes Chyz scummy? | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:38 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote: I'm sold, DrH. The 8 hours ago he seemed fine" part was enough for me. ##Vote TheChyz Yeah? Could you tell me in your own words how it makes Chyz scummy? Claims he was fine with DrH cause he looked like he was scumhunting, if you look at the posts in question at the time he said that DrH is spewing fluff left and right? Did you read it? I read it. To me it looks like Chyz is quite clearly frustrated with Dr. H which is not really alignment indicative. Before he votes him he even says that voting Dr. H is equivalent to a bullshit read which indicates that he townreads him. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:45 Lazermonkey wrote: Everyone who thinks I'm the best lynch, feel free to say your best argument to why that is. I may or may not be able to answer you in a satisfying way. Right now I feel that some people are suspecting me for so BS reasons... Because you are always going with thread sentiment and gave really unimpressing reads earlier. Like when you singled out Robik who hadn't done anyhting as a scumread. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If he townreads me why did he later claim he was in fact scumreading me and why would he appeal to the thread about how i am "really scummy". Go read my last post on him this is why i have to repeat myself. Has nothing to do with omgus Ok, I get what you are saying. Still not convinced. If I was town in his position I could see myself acting similar. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:47 TheChyz wrote: ya im done, this game has been such a mispleasure to play. Thanks dr.H, great game played by you. Best town player by far. You caught the scum. Here are my current notes btw. koshi - too good at defending me and making no other good reads. hasnt really contributed anything to town. scummy glowingbear - nada, not good sign geript - null to scum. Started fine but I expected more. Not leading town like I remember. Kinda just lurking but still in thread. Still nothing really. Expected more and his scum read on keslier is wtf? Scummy Artanis[XP] - somegood reads, some terrible ones. still making them and pushing them alright imo. towny. lazermonkey - bandwagoned onto me. made garbage about other people. need actual reads and not garbage at this point in the game. Tries to apologize, every post he makes makes him seem worse and worse. Tries to cover up his tracks. scummy marvellositty - apparently this great player but nada? something doesn't feel right. but terrible start can be excuse? slightly scummy justanothertownie - bothers me with some posts but I can kinda feel his train of thought. leaning townny Iamrobik - doesn't do anything but still in thread? weird. lazy. scummy theChyz - SUPER TOWN palmar - Keeps thread in good direction. If anything only look at day 3 since anything helping town (even if in wrong direction) is not worth a thought of lynching. town damdred - nothing jumps out, feels way too much of doing nothing for my taste, null to slightly scummy batsnacks - kinda weird play. posts sometimes good info, and then shit later. null sicklucker - I don't really like any of his reads hes making and they all seem kinda out in left field. scummy-ish vivax - don't like atm, not enough but just his posts are pretty off. scummy but weak at best kelsierSC - seems to be steering the town whenever he talks, pretty clear train of thought. slightly town. I like him more now, just seems to keep towny vibe. town ritoky - garbage opener, nothing since. garbage large post for no reason and terrible reads. scum Dr.H - rode me hard but kinda like how I did when town. Town. Big d bag tho. Eden1892 - nothing really sticks out too much, need to read closer, null. Also kinda just lurking around but does bring up good points every so ofter, towny. RebirthOfLegend - nada, not good sign Superbia - nada, not good sign scum list if I had to pick: -lazermonkey -ritoky -geript -koshi -a lurker/sicklucker/damdred ##Vote: TheChyz Stop this if you are town. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:57 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 08:47 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 08:45 Lazermonkey wrote: Everyone who thinks I'm the best lynch, feel free to say your best argument to why that is. I may or may not be able to answer you in a satisfying way. Right now I feel that some people are suspecting me for so BS reasons... Because you are always going with thread sentiment and gave really unimpressing reads earlier. Like when you singled out Robik who hadn't done anyhting as a scumread. I said Robik was a very weak scum read though. And sure, I got tunnely on Chyz but since when is tunnel = scum? Or what was the unimpressive reads you were talking about? You listed 2 scumreads. One of them was Robik. Forgive me for assuming it was one of your stronger reads. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:00 sicklucker wrote: So like I had a really strong first 24 hours. Now im hungover and being bad so ignore me for today plz and stop scum reading me because you didnt read my first 24 hours. You did most certainly not have strong first 24 hours. Sorry man. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:05 sicklucker wrote: Doctor gonna 100% scum read me and bats now. Usually when your bm to a epic tunneler the association reads always come Stop antagonizing him. What point is there in doing so if you think he is town? That goes to all of you btw. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:07 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:05 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe I should sheep Koshi on Vivax. He thinks vivax is scum because of geript so why switch? wat | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:11 IAmRobik wrote: JAT, is there anyone in this game who is a consensus town? me | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:25 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: LM didnt stick so gotta deflect off geript onto vivax i guess. He was inactive earlier so that makes it easy to bullshit and jump all over him while he's catching up Well it's easy for people who are caught up with the game to wonder what the latecomers are up to since their focus is so much different from their own. It will pass as all that synchronizes, for now I'd rather get a grip of what is going on rather than getting involved in arguments about those discrepancies between my visuals and their own. Then shut up and catch up. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote: geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:05 geript wrote: Also, fwiw Artanis, I saw this lynch coming yesterday. Considering the situation, activity, etc. It's a really hard lynch to get out of and all I can do is do my best to steer who to next. This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing. In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it. There are only two options here. #1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence. #2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation. I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch. Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him. The only thing that makes me pause is that geript thinks very highly of his scumplay and did everything he could to win in russia today (you should know this even better) and then he just gives up like this? | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:33 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:33 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote: geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play. On January 02 2015 06:05 geript wrote: Also, fwiw Artanis, I saw this lynch coming yesterday. Considering the situation, activity, etc. It's a really hard lynch to get out of and all I can do is do my best to steer who to next. This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing. In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it. There are only two options here. #1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence. #2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation. I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch. Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him. The only thing that makes me pause is that geript thinks very highly of his scumplay and did everything he could to win in russia today (you should know this even better) and then he just gives up like this? He gave up and outed me in russia mafia. Yes, because he thought you lost. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:38 GlowingBear wrote: Can someone link me to the reasons on why we should lynch Robik? We aren't lynching Robik. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter. The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote: Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks? Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town. But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch. Since when is batsnacks hard to read? Are you kidding me? | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter. The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot. So are Palmar and I both mafia with him? Or why do you think it not being discussed means anything at all? Just shut up about it and catch up. If you have any real reason for thinking marv is scum I am all ears. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:56 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter. The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot. So are Palmar and I both mafia with him? Or why do you think it not being discussed means anything at all? Just shut up about it and catch up. If you have any real reason for thinking marv is scum I am all ears. LOL for dismissing this point by just telling me to shut up, you could be. I'm not making any associative reads. I don't understand why are you talking about palmar and you. Because we just lynched scum marv day1 last game maybe?! | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: JAT's the only one I remember. The rest mustn't have tried very hard. I only pushed him until he returned and posted reasonable stuff. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:03 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:56 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter. The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot. So are Palmar and I both mafia with him? Or why do you think it not being discussed means anything at all? Just shut up about it and catch up. If you have any real reason for thinking marv is scum I am all ears. LOL for dismissing this point by just telling me to shut up, you could be. I'm not making any associative reads. I don't understand why are you talking about palmar and you. Because we just lynched scum marv day1 last game maybe?! ... What does that have to do with what I've brought? I said "marv's filter length is alignment indicative" and "scum would try to pick my post and push marv if marv was town" All you have to do is say "it's not alignment indicative" and "scum wouldn't try to pick on it" and prove both things. All you're replying to me has nothing to do with the points I've brought. It is alignment indicative. But this game has special circumstances and you just keep spouting something which is true generally but not necessarily here and contributes nothing to the game. You didn't even consider his play at all. It is just useless. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:06 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:57 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:55 marvellosity wrote: On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter. The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot. is that because that's what you would do as scum? ... when do you think the last time i got lynched as town was? Oh so you're here! Why are you not helping with the lynch? Lurking much? i'm enjoying my holiday with the other half ^^ we should lynch geript because i'd have to be severely overestimating him if he's town here, and I know and said in Russia that I'd made the mistake of underestimating him. There's just no town-fire geript at all here. Is there scum-fire geript though? | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:15 KelsierSC wrote: Gb made a great point about marv and it seemed like he believed what he said so yeh gb can be in my club I made that point ages before GB did and GB knows very well that we aren't lynching marv right now. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:11 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:06 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:03 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 10:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:59 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:56 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:53 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 09:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:48 GlowingBear wrote: On January 02 2015 06:40 GlowingBear wrote: I'll read the game in 3 hours and give you guys reads. But you can't lynch anyone other than marv when he has got only 3 pages of filter. The wi fi works poorly here in the hotel. I'm gonna rent some hours in the lobby's computer. This wasn't discussed? THIS WASN'T DISCUSSED? Don't put on a show and tell us why he is mafia instead if you really think so. Filter length is alignment indicative for marv. Even he admitted it on Russia Today. You were ther, dude. He had 11 pages of filter. He has 3 here. This not being discussed goes towards the scenario where marv is mafia. I can't believe in a world where scum wouldn't pick this up and try to get marv lynched day one. It means a lot. So are Palmar and I both mafia with him? Or why do you think it not being discussed means anything at all? Just shut up about it and catch up. If you have any real reason for thinking marv is scum I am all ears. LOL for dismissing this point by just telling me to shut up, you could be. I'm not making any associative reads. I don't understand why are you talking about palmar and you. Because we just lynched scum marv day1 last game maybe?! ... What does that have to do with what I've brought? I said "marv's filter length is alignment indicative" and "scum would try to pick my post and push marv if marv was town" All you have to do is say "it's not alignment indicative" and "scum wouldn't try to pick on it" and prove both things. All you're replying to me has nothing to do with the points I've brought. It is alignment indicative. But this game has special circumstances and you just keep spouting something which is true generally but not necessarily here and contributes nothing to the game. You didn't even consider his play at all. It is just useless. So, it's alignment indicative, nonetheless. You clearly saw that he was lurking and only posted when I said he was scummy. So I say something that is alignment indicative but it contributes nothing to the game. I also say that scum not picking that thing up is weird but you ignore it now. JAT, wow. Why are you hard defending him and downgrading me so much? Lol You just quoted the post with all the answers in it. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:17 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:15 KelsierSC wrote: Gb made a great point about marv and it seemed like he believed what he said so yeh gb can be in my club I made that point ages before GB did and GB knows very well that we aren't lynching marv right now. I also made this point and its a really bad point because its new years god dammit. You don't say... | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:15 KelsierSC wrote: Gb made a great point about marv and it seemed like he believed what he said so yeh gb can be in my club I made that point ages before GB did and GB knows very well that we aren't lynching marv right now. You are in my club too don't worry Do you want to.lynch Gb? I like him He has done nothing this game. Literally nothing. What is there to like about him? | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:21 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:18 KelsierSC wrote: On January 02 2015 10:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:15 KelsierSC wrote: Gb made a great point about marv and it seemed like he believed what he said so yeh gb can be in my club I made that point ages before GB did and GB knows very well that we aren't lynching marv right now. You are in my club too don't worry Do you want to.lynch Gb? I like him He has done nothing this game. Literally nothing. What is there to like about him? I liked the marv post I guess, it felt like he believed it. I dunno you really think hr is good lynch? No. But he could very well be scum. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:25 IAmRobik wrote: I'm bummed that I'm not able to just sheep marv. He's boring me. I saw that he had posted a few times around when i had the thread open so i'm like "cool, marv is town" and now the only emotion i have is let down Yeah, pretty frustrating actually. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:26 IAmRobik wrote: You signed up for a slam game I heard there were cohosts... | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:26 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:38 marvellosity wrote: "I don't mind x" or "I have no issues with y" are not reasons for people not to be mafia, Artanis. Quite often the opposite actually. Great post. In general. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On March 08 2014 05:08 TheChyz wrote: Ok after a night rest I got to thinking and imo I still think Wave is the most likely to be scum. The scum really didn't have to do much other than have a decent day 1/night 1. After that it was just easy sailing so I don't actually think scum really had much to do apart from push the lynches of the "list". As such wave is the one that keeps bringing up to lynch by the list the most imo and as such that is mostly why I think he is scum. That is who I would vote for, but since I'm going to work atm and won't be back till around deadline (my 15 is roughly near break) I'll keep my vote on no lynch (don't wanna get modkilled to help town since thats cheating). I'm just gonna leave saying this last word. Nothing on concrete has really been put on me. The only thing that people keep rehashing is just the non vote on suki day 1. That argument alone is so weak but it seems the only thing you guys are doing is thinking each of you is confirmed town so the only one with a small question mark is going to get lynched. "Follow the list", pretty good plan scum, keeps you alive all game long. What seems more likely, a noobie's second game (being town last game) having nothing scummy except for some overblown vote argument thats super wishy-wash (similar to my town game) or a veteran scum being able to hide under voting in a list? Anyways, gg guys. Was fun (and HELLA stressful ) Notice how thechyz handles actuallyb eing lynched and how he tilts over being tunneled by one player in this game. geript who he says is one of his top reads has the bandwagon and he doesn't want to move the needle on that even when i agree? Also great post. Makes me feel like Chyz's outburst wasn't warranted for a townie. This is all during that "geript" and "marv's list" stuff. Then there's this, from geript: Show nested quote + Look Here's my specific issues with the list. I'm in PoE, which I guess is explainable. Batsnacks idk. Haven't seen traps but as I recall he hasn't really be doing much of anything. When I reread sicklucker I think he might be town. I forget why, but it wasn't terribly memorable. Bat/rit both feel like coin flips instead of solid PoE targets. Plus, he's got Eden and kelsier as town. Kelsier might be when I reread him before crashing last night, but Eden's in a weird spot. I don't think Eden's town. It's even more troublesome that Marv finds Robik to be town. Robik is 0% town. Serioiusly. Town Robik is all over the place. He's aggressive. He does stuff. He pushes opinions. He's an overall jackass (much like myself sometimes). This game Robik doesn't care whatsoever. Robik hasn't posted much and he doesn't care. That's quite definitive of his scumplay. Koshi, he might be town, he might be scum. I'm really unsure because he's so convinced I'm mafia. Maybe it's just me who's exceptionally off this game, but it's really weird that both Koshi and Marv haven't picked up on or pushed Robik. It's really weird that Koshi comes in and thinks Eden is bad and then thinks he gets better. He started bad and then goes into lala land. If I read geripts stuff afterwards it looks mostly like he scumreads marv for putting Robik into the townpile and hence being wrong. If Robik didn't do much I don't see why this would be unnatural for geript to do. So if this is all marv has to offer on geript being scum I'm not in the same boat. This brings back memories of Palmar saying "if geript is town marv is 100 % scum" or something similar, it brings them back cause lately Palmar popped in proposing me as scum after proposing this notion which seems incoherent. Shouldn't he still care more about geript's alignment since in his eyes it'd be a tell for marv? Palmar explicitly said we should lynch geript and only consider you if we are switching. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:33 sicklucker wrote: Vivax might be mafia too the way geript stopped giving up for a second to bus him. But lets not be stupid and kill the more obvious player that confirms alot of good players and hard to read players like me as town. Dude, whatever geripts flips does not confirm you as anything. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:34 KelsierSC wrote: I cant filter dive but geript mentioned 4 players he wanted to play with /tzlk to. If he has read most.of them as town he is probably scum Some of them. Pretty much all of them read him scum though. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: and now this is the only shit he can pull up when his ass is on the chopping block? geript is way too annoying as a townie to do this I actually like this point. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i knew he was scum for not tunneling me day 1 . if anyone would normally be tilted by behavior, it's geript. no one in this forum before has ever been so acidic in general to me i think. like i said, he behaves cutely like he likes me but every game i play with him we are at each others throats and he has been town because i cant fucking understand anything he says. but in this game he didnt say anything. what he did say was horseshit. and anyone who reuses an argument they back down on later with no explanation and no follow up and no nothing is highly suspect to me. same thing thechyz did but mafia already convinced the thread not to bother reading close See, you can be convincing when you try. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:41 ritoky wrote: saw someone asked for this: Unofficial vote count: ritoky (2): sicklucker, superbia TheChyz (4): Eden1892, Vivax, batsnacks, DoctorHelvetica geript (4): Palmar, Artanis[XP], Lazermonkey, marvellosity Lazermonkey (1): TheChyz sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (1): Koshi Geript is set to be lynched thread exploded while i was cooking. lol, no way am I voting for Chyz with this votecount | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote: [/blue][/b]Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote: TheChyz (5): Eden1892, until deadline. Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on. Where to move my vote -.- My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:47 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:45 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote: On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote: TheChyz (5): Eden1892, until deadline. Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on. Where to move my vote -.- My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though. I hate that you're not hating me this game and that you're agreeing with me why so agreeable? Because you are saying what I think. If you are doing that I will agree. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:50 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:47 IAmRobik wrote: On January 02 2015 10:45 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:44 IAmRobik wrote: On January 02 2015 10:43 Alakaslam wrote: TheChyz (5): Eden1892, until deadline. Oh jeez, that's one ugly looking wagon to be on. Where to move my vote -.- My thoughts exactly. I voted geript for now. Still think batsnacks would also be a good lynch though. I hate that you're not hating me this game and that you're agreeing with me why so agreeable? Because you are saying what I think. If you are doing that I will agree. Not to mention that I said that before you. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:53 GlowingBear wrote: ##Vote: geript Why are you voting for your townread? | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler + On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote: First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote: In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote: I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler + On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote: What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him. On January 02 2015 10:53 GlowingBear wrote: ##Vote: geript What changed in 5 minutes, hm? | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler + On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] + On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote: First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote: In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote: I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler + On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote: On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do. Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote: Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. No, it is not. If the cop is competent he will not check you so stop whining and start playing if you are town. This behaviour is unacceptable and if you get mislynched this is entirely your own fault. | ||
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Explain this: On January 02 2015 10:57 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:48 GlowingBear wrote: What I've read from geript made me have a slight townread on him, so I'm not lynching him. What changed in 5 minutes, hm? | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on. Getting mislynched is not selfless. It is not bold. And it most certainly is not the right play in any situation. It is selfish, dumb and despicable. If you just put in some effort to show that you are town you would not be the discussion every day. Get your head out of your ass if you are town. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:22 batsnacks wrote: When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote: Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial Is this all you have to contribute? | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:28 Koshi wrote: Batsnacks might be town as well. He is batsnacks insane. This is not sure. I am sleep depraved atm Where do you get that from? batsnacks has literally done nothing besides defending chyz. Not stepped on anyones toes. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want There is no vig in this game... | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:41 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want Town doesn't have a vig. Your team on the other hand.... | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:42 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:41 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 11:41 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want Town doesn't have a vig. Your team on the other hand.... Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:54 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote: On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote: Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks? Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town. But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch. Since when is batsnacks hard to read? Are you kidding me? Your point? | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today No, it is because the reasoning Vivax gave was horrendous. | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: JAT, are you still there and do you still want to lynch batsnacks? Can you give me the rundown on him? I am sort of here but you know how late it is right now. For batsnacks you have to look at meta. If he is town he is extremely brazen. He does not give a fuck about what people think of him and his reads. He attacks and pushes people doing traps and all that shit. As scum he just tries not to step on anyones toes and generally lacks any scumreads. A perfect example for this is FFL2 mafia. What I see this game is the latter. He defends Chyz and does nothing else. No scumreads, no traps, no crazy behaviour. | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I guess we'll have to look at it on D2 JAT as there don't seem to be enough people around to switch. How do you know? | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote: We dont need to switch to bats in an hour when no one is here to talk about it. Whats wrong with geript now? What kind of reasoning is this? What wrong with lynching batsnacks? You said you think he is scum. | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:58 batsnacks wrote: ANyone want to ask me anything or...? No. Would prefer you doing things on your own. | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Because I think chyz and geript are better lynches? I havent read bats filter all the way thru, I'd prefer not to have a last second vote swing. I'm leaving for.dinner soon but bats is definitely a player i want to look.into more on my own later His filter isn't long. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:08 batsnacks wrote: That's not what I said. I said can -you- think of something that -we- can actually have a conversation about? You're the one voting me. Can't you give me something I can actually respond to other than "this isn't your town play"? Yeah. You seem to lack reads. You also lack your usual inquisitiveness. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:13 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:08 Eden1892 wrote: Maybe there's something here. On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote: I think robik is mafia. Here is my lame meta read: Town robik is usually enthusiastic about playing at the start of games and is quick to form reads and call people out. He's usually really loud about the fact that he's town (as both alignments) and says it over and over again "I'm town you suck." He did that a little bit this game. Scum robik, i.e. Robik in this game, is obviously in the thread and is responding when his name gets called, but he lacks reads and is not passionate about solving people's alignments. He is only passionate about talking about him. And this scummy too: On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote: I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right ##vote: IAmRobik This post is strange, because he says that Robik is deviating from both his normal town and normal mafia behavior, and thus that makes him mafia. I guess the argument is that there's greater deviation from his normal town game than from his normal mafia game, but batsnacks, in making a self-professed "lame meta read," expressly notes that Robik is deviating from both of his normal games. This bothers me because it doesn't match my thought process if I'm in batsnacks' shoes: 1. If someone is deviating from both their normal town game and normal mafia game, my first thought is that there must be extenuating circumstances responsible for the deviation. Deliberate change in play style, extended absence due to work, or a holiday, like, say, Iunno, New Year's Eve... these would be where I'd look for explanations, not "Robik is mafia." 2. Perhaps more telling, but if I find myself deciding my read on someone is lame, I don't bring it up and I certainly don't put my vote down for them. I keep looking. Tellingly, he never pushes the Robik lynch and never really brings it up in subsequent posts. batsnacks then later proposes that Chyz might have been milking his Koshi read for town credit, ignoring the fact that Chyz's read on Koshi changed in the two instances batsnacks cites to support it. This "contribution" is senseless to me. On January 01 2015 06:44 batsnacks wrote: Mr DrH what do you think about this: First TheChyz posts this: On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote: I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me. I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive. I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him. ##Vote: Lazermonkey And he earned town points for it: On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being. On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him. Then later he posts this: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. And gets more town points: On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right? It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense. I feel better about Chyz for this post Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points? He never actually does anything with this, either. Not only is the question fundamentally flawed, it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and he isn't really doing anything with it. He talks some more about it but again, it doesn't really get to the conclusion "lynch Chyz" or anything. Even if batsnacks didn't horribly misinterpret what Chyz said, this wouldn't be the tenth most incriminating case on Chyz in this thread even if we took out the cases DoctorHelvetica made. The last page of batsnacks' filter seems similarly unproductive and unhelpful. A "fuck you Chyz" and a vote, presumably for self-voting, which, as I've already argued, probably shouldn't be there because Chyz seems town. Some random mechanics/roles stuff that doesn't really matter. A couple of general "is anybody there?" type questions and, notably, no real effort to push the Lazermonkey read he was so hard on earlier. I don't get the sense this guy cares about who we kill. Maybe it's time we make him care. ##UNVOTE: geript ##VOTE: batsnacks I already said I'm not unvoting chyz because if he is mafia and self voting and getting let off the hook for it, it's going to piss me off. So my vote is staying. If thechyz hadn't self voted I probably wouldn't have voted him. Also no one is voting lazermonkey or robik, the two people I wanted to lynch originally, so of course I'm not going to keep my vote there. Since when do you care if other people agree with you? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:16 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:14 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:13 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:08 Eden1892 wrote: Maybe there's something here. On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote: I think robik is mafia. Here is my lame meta read: Town robik is usually enthusiastic about playing at the start of games and is quick to form reads and call people out. He's usually really loud about the fact that he's town (as both alignments) and says it over and over again "I'm town you suck." He did that a little bit this game. Scum robik, i.e. Robik in this game, is obviously in the thread and is responding when his name gets called, but he lacks reads and is not passionate about solving people's alignments. He is only passionate about talking about him. And this scummy too: On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote: I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right ##vote: IAmRobik This post is strange, because he says that Robik is deviating from both his normal town and normal mafia behavior, and thus that makes him mafia. I guess the argument is that there's greater deviation from his normal town game than from his normal mafia game, but batsnacks, in making a self-professed "lame meta read," expressly notes that Robik is deviating from both of his normal games. This bothers me because it doesn't match my thought process if I'm in batsnacks' shoes: 1. If someone is deviating from both their normal town game and normal mafia game, my first thought is that there must be extenuating circumstances responsible for the deviation. Deliberate change in play style, extended absence due to work, or a holiday, like, say, Iunno, New Year's Eve... these would be where I'd look for explanations, not "Robik is mafia." 2. Perhaps more telling, but if I find myself deciding my read on someone is lame, I don't bring it up and I certainly don't put my vote down for them. I keep looking. Tellingly, he never pushes the Robik lynch and never really brings it up in subsequent posts. batsnacks then later proposes that Chyz might have been milking his Koshi read for town credit, ignoring the fact that Chyz's read on Koshi changed in the two instances batsnacks cites to support it. This "contribution" is senseless to me. On January 01 2015 06:44 batsnacks wrote: Mr DrH what do you think about this: First TheChyz posts this: On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote: I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me. I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive. I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him. ##Vote: Lazermonkey And he earned town points for it: On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being. On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him. Then later he posts this: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. And gets more town points: On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right? It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense. I feel better about Chyz for this post Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points? He never actually does anything with this, either. Not only is the question fundamentally flawed, it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and he isn't really doing anything with it. He talks some more about it but again, it doesn't really get to the conclusion "lynch Chyz" or anything. Even if batsnacks didn't horribly misinterpret what Chyz said, this wouldn't be the tenth most incriminating case on Chyz in this thread even if we took out the cases DoctorHelvetica made. The last page of batsnacks' filter seems similarly unproductive and unhelpful. A "fuck you Chyz" and a vote, presumably for self-voting, which, as I've already argued, probably shouldn't be there because Chyz seems town. Some random mechanics/roles stuff that doesn't really matter. A couple of general "is anybody there?" type questions and, notably, no real effort to push the Lazermonkey read he was so hard on earlier. I don't get the sense this guy cares about who we kill. Maybe it's time we make him care. ##UNVOTE: geript ##VOTE: batsnacks I already said I'm not unvoting chyz because if he is mafia and self voting and getting let off the hook for it, it's going to piss me off. So my vote is staying. If thechyz hadn't self voted I probably wouldn't have voted him. Also no one is voting lazermonkey or robik, the two people I wanted to lynch originally, so of course I'm not going to keep my vote there. Since when do you care if other people agree with you? What? No one is voting lazer or robik, I'm not going to waste my vote. I would much rather vote the self-voting chyz. Ok, why is chyz scum? You defended him earlier. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:17 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:16 Eden1892 wrote: On January 02 2015 13:13 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:08 Eden1892 wrote: Maybe there's something here. On January 01 2015 06:13 batsnacks wrote: I think robik is mafia. Here is my lame meta read: Town robik is usually enthusiastic about playing at the start of games and is quick to form reads and call people out. He's usually really loud about the fact that he's town (as both alignments) and says it over and over again "I'm town you suck." He did that a little bit this game. Scum robik, i.e. Robik in this game, is obviously in the thread and is responding when his name gets called, but he lacks reads and is not passionate about solving people's alignments. He is only passionate about talking about him. And this scummy too: On January 01 2015 05:59 IAmRobik wrote: I kinda wanna lynch TheChyz to see if DrH is right ##vote: IAmRobik This post is strange, because he says that Robik is deviating from both his normal town and normal mafia behavior, and thus that makes him mafia. I guess the argument is that there's greater deviation from his normal town game than from his normal mafia game, but batsnacks, in making a self-professed "lame meta read," expressly notes that Robik is deviating from both of his normal games. This bothers me because it doesn't match my thought process if I'm in batsnacks' shoes: 1. If someone is deviating from both their normal town game and normal mafia game, my first thought is that there must be extenuating circumstances responsible for the deviation. Deliberate change in play style, extended absence due to work, or a holiday, like, say, Iunno, New Year's Eve... these would be where I'd look for explanations, not "Robik is mafia." 2. Perhaps more telling, but if I find myself deciding my read on someone is lame, I don't bring it up and I certainly don't put my vote down for them. I keep looking. Tellingly, he never pushes the Robik lynch and never really brings it up in subsequent posts. batsnacks then later proposes that Chyz might have been milking his Koshi read for town credit, ignoring the fact that Chyz's read on Koshi changed in the two instances batsnacks cites to support it. This "contribution" is senseless to me. On January 01 2015 06:44 batsnacks wrote: Mr DrH what do you think about this: First TheChyz posts this: On January 01 2015 01:58 TheChyz wrote: I don't like how koshi entered the thread. But afterwards he makes a decent defense of me and seems to be able to make a coherent read on me. I don't see a point to defend me as scum so early on with little votes and as such that leans town to me. I don't see where people are getting this geript thing. If someone can enlighten me but I liked his intros into the thread, nothing amazing but better than the other fluff people were posting. Later on he has seem to slacked off a bit but other than not seeming to scum hunt as much as I'm used he doesn't seem scummy. null for me. Maybe you guys know him better than I and have a bad feeling but I don't see anything conclusive. I don't like lazer atm. He hasn't really done any scum hunting this game and is rehashing old stuff and using it again. The read on robik is w/e. Robik has done nothing except "activity" posts so obv that doesn't look good as town. However him making a read on those 2 robik posts and having nothing on anybody else apart from me doesn't sit right. His case on me can be thought of both ways and as such is pointless. Basically his reasoning is if I was scum and was asked to push my thoughts I would. But the same case can be made of me as town. I don't like his play atm and want more from him. ##Vote: Lazermonkey And he earned town points for it: On January 01 2015 02:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I kinda like how paranoid Chyz is being. On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him. Then later he posts this: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. And gets more town points: On January 01 2015 04:00 Eden1892 wrote: On January 01 2015 03:52 TheChyz wrote: I'm having some trouble with koshi after thinking it some. Basically once koshi started defending me, thats mostly all that koshi has contributed to the thread. Just talks about me being town and dr.H being wrong in his read. Like the first time seeing it it felt fine but the longer this game goes, that is all that koshi has been really on. Nothing much else apart from saying "this person is fine, these people are on my scum list, etc". I haven't really felt like I have gotten anything from koshi. And his read on me just seems to good to not have a decent enough read on somebody else. Again I don't get why a scum would poke their head out this early to defend a lynch that doesn't have traction yet but the longer he does it the more it seems like koshi just knows im town but hasn't added too much to the thread other than that. Just seems suspicious to me. I really like this post for town. You know the old tell about forgiving your attacker that mafia tend to do, because they know the person attacking them is right and they would rather defuse the threat with kindness and cordiality instead of trying to engage someone they know is right? It's the opposite here. I feel like attacking your forgiver is a good town tell. Mafia don't turn around and get after people who are defending them, and doubly so if they're actually under some significant suspicion. Mafia do numbers-crunching and try to see how many people they can keep on their side and don't try to attack people defending them to gain town credit. It just doesn't make sense. I feel better about Chyz for this post Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points? He never actually does anything with this, either. Not only is the question fundamentally flawed, it doesn't seem to be going anywhere, and he isn't really doing anything with it. He talks some more about it but again, it doesn't really get to the conclusion "lynch Chyz" or anything. Even if batsnacks didn't horribly misinterpret what Chyz said, this wouldn't be the tenth most incriminating case on Chyz in this thread even if we took out the cases DoctorHelvetica made. The last page of batsnacks' filter seems similarly unproductive and unhelpful. A "fuck you Chyz" and a vote, presumably for self-voting, which, as I've already argued, probably shouldn't be there because Chyz seems town. Some random mechanics/roles stuff that doesn't really matter. A couple of general "is anybody there?" type questions and, notably, no real effort to push the Lazermonkey read he was so hard on earlier. I don't get the sense this guy cares about who we kill. Maybe it's time we make him care. ##UNVOTE: geript ##VOTE: batsnacks I already said I'm not unvoting chyz because if he is mafia and self voting and getting let off the hook for it, it's going to piss me off. So my vote is staying. If thechyz hadn't self voted I probably wouldn't have voted him. Also no one is voting lazermonkey or robik, the two people I wanted to lynch originally, so of course I'm not going to keep my vote there. Wait, so if he hadn't self-voted you wouldn't vote him. But you're voting him because you won't let a self-voting mafia off the hook? Does that mean you think he's mafia and weren't voting him because ??? or does that mean you don't think he's mafia but are voting him now because ??? And the point isn't that no one is voting Lazermonkey or Robik. The point is you made both reads with plenty of time to push them, so if you thought they were mafia, why didn't you try to develop a case people would vote for? Why leave them as weak and easily-ignored as they were? Yes, if he hadn't self voted that probably wouldn't be where my vote is. And I posted as often and as much as I could. Then why did you decide that making useless posts directed at me was more important than to post something useful? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:24 batsnacks wrote: jat just remember that you said I was easy to read good enough for me ??? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:26 Damdred wrote: I have a feeling this is batsnacks scum game, it looks like ffl2 to me honestly Elaborate pls. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:27 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You managed to post your thoughts on both chyz and geript without making any kind of indication of eithers alignment but seems like u lean town on thechyz? I lean must die on thechyz. He's who I want to vote so that's who I'm voting. If he were town it would have been easy for him to avoid being lynched today. And if he were scum it would not be easy? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:29 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You managed to post your thoughts on both chyz and geript without making any kind of indication of eithers alignment but seems like u lean town on thechyz? I lean must die on thechyz. He's who I want to vote so that's who I'm voting. If he were town it would have been easy for him to avoid being lynched today. And if he were scum it would not be easy? I will try to give some perspective. Let's say thechyz gets lynched today and he flips town. Then let's say for the sake of the argument that tomorrow, you claim scum and vote yourself in the same post. I would vote you tomorrow. Then you surely are ok if I vote you for that, right? Because even if you are town you are a liability since you aren't trying to win the game. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:33 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:29 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You managed to post your thoughts on both chyz and geript without making any kind of indication of eithers alignment but seems like u lean town on thechyz? I lean must die on thechyz. He's who I want to vote so that's who I'm voting. If he were town it would have been easy for him to avoid being lynched today. And if he were scum it would not be easy? I will try to give some perspective. Let's say thechyz gets lynched today and he flips town. Then let's say for the sake of the argument that tomorrow, you claim scum and vote yourself in the same post. I would vote you tomorrow. Then you surely are ok if I vote you for that, right? Because even if you are town you are a liability since you aren't trying to win the game. It doesn't really matter to me what you do but I am trying to win. Then you should try not to be mislynched if you are town. Currently you are leading the votecount if I am not mistaken. So if you want to win the game as town you should show me a better target right now. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:35 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:33 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:29 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You managed to post your thoughts on both chyz and geript without making any kind of indication of eithers alignment but seems like u lean town on thechyz? I lean must die on thechyz. He's who I want to vote so that's who I'm voting. If he were town it would have been easy for him to avoid being lynched today. And if he were scum it would not be easy? I will try to give some perspective. Let's say thechyz gets lynched today and he flips town. Then let's say for the sake of the argument that tomorrow, you claim scum and vote yourself in the same post. I would vote you tomorrow. Then you surely are ok if I vote you for that, right? Because even if you are town you are a liability since you aren't trying to win the game. It doesn't really matter to me what you do but I am trying to win. Then you should try not to be mislynched if you are town. Currently you are leading the votecount if I am not mistaken. So if you want to win the game as town you should show me a better target right now. I'm voting the better target jat. He 1) claimed scum 2) voted himself 3) left All in the same post. Not good enough. You aren't dumb enough not to recognize when someone is being sarcastic like he was. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:37 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:33 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:29 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You managed to post your thoughts on both chyz and geript without making any kind of indication of eithers alignment but seems like u lean town on thechyz? I lean must die on thechyz. He's who I want to vote so that's who I'm voting. If he were town it would have been easy for him to avoid being lynched today. And if he were scum it would not be easy? I will try to give some perspective. Let's say thechyz gets lynched today and he flips town. Then let's say for the sake of the argument that tomorrow, you claim scum and vote yourself in the same post. I would vote you tomorrow. Then you surely are ok if I vote you for that, right? Because even if you are town you are a liability since you aren't trying to win the game. It doesn't really matter to me what you do but I am trying to win. Then you should try not to be mislynched if you are town. Currently you are leading the votecount if I am not mistaken. So if you want to win the game as town you should show me a better target right now. You gonna unvote me if I claim scum, vote myself, and leave the thread? Because that's what got thechyz off the hook. That's not what got him off the hook as far as I am concerned. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:39 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:37 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:33 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:29 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 13:27 batsnacks wrote: On January 02 2015 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You managed to post your thoughts on both chyz and geript without making any kind of indication of eithers alignment but seems like u lean town on thechyz? I lean must die on thechyz. He's who I want to vote so that's who I'm voting. If he were town it would have been easy for him to avoid being lynched today. And if he were scum it would not be easy? I will try to give some perspective. Let's say thechyz gets lynched today and he flips town. Then let's say for the sake of the argument that tomorrow, you claim scum and vote yourself in the same post. I would vote you tomorrow. Then you surely are ok if I vote you for that, right? Because even if you are town you are a liability since you aren't trying to win the game. It doesn't really matter to me what you do but I am trying to win. Then you should try not to be mislynched if you are town. Currently you are leading the votecount if I am not mistaken. So if you want to win the game as town you should show me a better target right now. You gonna unvote me if I claim scum, vote myself, and leave the thread? Because that's what got thechyz off the hook. That's not what got him off the hook as far as I am concerned. Well it certainly wasn't all the posts he made AFTER he claimed scum and voted himself. lol Correct. He wasn't on the hook before he posted that. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Geript why are you ninja voting Vivax? Huh? I thought marv was 100 % mafia? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:44 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:32 justanothertownie wrote: Why are you guys all coming out of the woodwork now -.- I town read the four who actually voted bats your still null for me. You mean the four that voted bats after I did? Why did you even feel the need to tell that to me? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:47 batsnacks wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 13:39 justanothertownie wrote: Tell me who you think is scum and why. If you keep insisting on your stupid policy vote for your townread you are going down. I've already said this. marv and lazer for how they sheeped the geript vote. robik because he's not calling people out or calling people bad. thechyz - claimed scum, self voted, left the thread under pressure. Other interesting people that have been talked about today: vivax - scum vivax I usually associate with being very active d1 then falling off in activity later on in the game. I have played with vivax as scum once and that is how he described his scum meta to me. so this game doesn't exactly align with that scum meta but he's someone I think should be focused on. DrH - had the easiest 15 page d1 filter ever. all he did the entire day was dissect every sentence thechyz wrote. Ok. Why is geript town? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:49 sicklucker wrote: I wanna spite vote geript now Yeah, pretty tempted actually. | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:52 Eden1892 wrote: JAT, sicklucker, let's sort out geript later. You guys are no better than batsnacks if you spite-vote geript for a stealth vote But there is no reason for geript to do that. He called marv 100 % mafia. Why isn't he voting him if he wastes his vote anyways? | ||
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On January 02 2015 13:58 IAmRobik wrote: JAT -- what am i doing? and why should i listen to you...yopu have 1 minute I am town. That's all you should do what you think is best if you are also town because I am very unsure. | ||
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On January 02 2015 14:15 sicklucker wrote: That awkward moment when you realize you hammered another batsnacks mislynch. Do you understand what im saying now jat? wat | ||
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On January 02 2015 14:19 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 14:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 14:15 sicklucker wrote: That awkward moment when you realize you hammered another batsnacks mislynch. Do you understand what im saying now jat? wat Your like batsnacks is easy to read. Then you lead a mislynch on him. Im not blaming you but clearly hes not that easy to read ;p I feel like he somewhat intentionally got himself lynched because I said that. Not feeling bad about lynching him. | ||
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On January 02 2015 15:26 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 15:16 Eden1892 wrote: Honestly sicklurker's posts during the wagon were bothering me a bit, looked like he was egging it on a bit. But ever since we started talking about geript after the flip he's said what I was thinking so I'm not really sure what to do with him. I had mad cold feet didnt you or dandred tell me to not switch? Bullshit. | ||
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Koshi at least really tried to make us lynch Vivax so he is allowed to rage a little but Palmar you are certainly not. And if anyone keeps telling me that this was obviously batsnacks towngame I am calling you a liar. Or an idiot. Your choice. | ||
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On January 02 2015 20:37 Palmar wrote: I'm really demotivated to even play now. Probably gonna just afk through the night and see if I turn up dead or not. If I am alive I might just park my vote on Robik out of spite and never change it for playing terribly. This guy too. Time to catch up fully. | ||
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On January 03 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote: Why are you talking about this stuff. Talk reads and stop playing the town coach it's really incredibly useless. You are incredibly useless. I probably should have sheeped Koshi. | ||
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On January 03 2015 01:51 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 01:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote: Why are you talking about this stuff. Talk reads and stop playing the town coach it's really incredibly useless. You are incredibly useless. I probably should have sheeped Koshi. Objectively you're just yelling for people to do stuff when what you're doing isn't achieving anything in itself. No analysis, just bullshitting. I lynched my scumread. How many people can say that in this game? And how is what you are doing right now helpful itself? | ||
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On January 02 2015 23:13 Koshi wrote: Oh is SL the guy who was softdefending batsnacks with the line "batsnacks is hard to read"? On January 02 2015 23:13 Koshi wrote: And then was smug about it when he flipped town? Oh yeah that guy. Indeed. | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:18 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 02:16 Koshi wrote: Is there any reason why you are being hostile towards jat? Do you think he is scum? Yes his noisy presence when I attempted to analyse Eden's posts in thread bothered me and now that I see evidence for him claiming to have some sort of interest into figuring Eden out but then doing exactly the opposite you can expect some more hostility from me. hahahahaha | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:22 Vivax wrote: And honestly I just hate JATs filter after looking at it. It's a oneliner fest with no analysis. He doesn't play mafia he's simulating a chat session, he even posts to post a single word. 14 pages of trash to sift through, and it's not like a iamperfection style of spamming with some value and drive, it's like reading background noise. Not sure why but he made me mad. Seems legit. | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:27 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: Totally believable that Vivax complains about my "towncoaching" and then attacks me for my posting style. I'm not coaching anyone, I'm complaining that you only make the game unreadable and also yourself unreadable by posting that way. You're the grey eminence chiming in in discussions, throwing little turds of text into them that don't really lead anywhere, and it's unhelpful. Weird. In my memory I was the only player who was universally townread day1. So obviously I don't make myself unreadable. In my memory I also got my scumread lynched. So obviously my little turds lead somewhere. | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:27 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote: Totally believable that Vivax complains about my "towncoaching" and then attacks me for my posting style. I'm not coaching anyone, I'm complaining that you only make the game unreadable and also yourself unreadable by posting that way. You're the grey eminence chiming in in discussions, throwing little turds of text into them that don't really lead anywhere, and it's unhelpful. Tempted to lynch Vivax for this read alone. It proves a remarkable detachment from the game. He is being needlessly abrasive. | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:49 Vivax wrote: In fact it doesn't make sense to me why JAT would keep his vote on bats after noticing geripts vote on me when he claimed marv was 100 % scum. If he mentions it, why doesn't it immediately sway him, it was of enough importance to be mentioned but JAT has this weird preference for bats pre-lynch after all he went through with the geript thingy, being there from the start. Because it is idiotic from geript regardless of alignment? I can't lynch multiple people. I said batsnacks was scum for ages. Then I lynched him. Where is your fucking problem with that? I can't lynch batsnacks, Lazer, ritoky and geript. I can only lynch one of them. | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Jat, looking at your filter it seems like you were never really convinced geript was a good lynch I'm getting a weird feeling cause you are always talking to your townreads So? | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Directing your townreads. I cant find anything hardly about geript except that you had a null read on him but wanted to sheep palmar anyway i guess? What am I missing I said geript was scummy multiple times I think. And yeah, I wasn't that sure about it later because he was playing so bad that I had doubts. I also said this. If you really read my filter then you wouldn't have to ask me those questions. | ||
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On January 03 2015 02:57 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 12:38 justanothertownie wrote: On January 02 2015 12:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote: JAT, are you still there and do you still want to lynch batsnacks? Can you give me the rundown on him? I am sort of here but you know how late it is right now. For batsnacks you have to look at meta. If he is town he is extremely brazen. He does not give a fuck about what people think of him and his reads. He attacks and pushes people doing traps and all that shit. As scum he just tries not to step on anyones toes and generally lacks any scumreads. A perfect example for this is FFL2 mafia. What I see this game is the latter. He defends Chyz and does nothing else. No scumreads, no traps, no crazy behaviour. In fact he posted the bit about LM which caught my attention so he DID post scumreads. Right now you look to me like you managed to deflect lynch from geript to bats after claiming you want to lynch geript but not TheChyz. While saying geript is mafia and the only wagon that makes sense for you, you kept looking for another wagon and found it in bats. You attacked GB for his vote on geript cause he claimed to have a townread on him, which actually at that time played against your claimed agenda that you wanted to lynch geript. The bolded is a straight up lie. And I mentioned that he posted about LM. Try harder Vivax. Misrepresenting me isn't that easy. | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:43 justanothertownie wrote: Like batsnacks voted for Robik for awful and easy to give reasons and then Lazer at some point. I don't think his reads evolve in any way. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:08 Koshi wrote: Well. He has a point about the misrepresenting thing. No, he hasn't. I corrected myself instantly after that post with the one I quoted. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:09 Koshi wrote: The only problem I have is why is Vivax going after JAT. Who wont be lynched ever. Maybe because then people say this and don't want to lynch him. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:12 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 03:09 justanothertownie wrote: I will just ignore Vivax and lynch him tomorrow if he keeps this bullshit up. Threats like this don't work. You either think I'm scum and push me for that, and you said you agreed with Koshi previously, so this is even more odd for you to say. If I'm scum then you should lynch me anyway and not only when I point out the stuff in your filter. And the misrepresentation hasn't been explained, Kelsier. He turned the bats part from "having no reads" to "not pushing his reads". Learn to read ffs. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:16 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 03:10 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 03:09 Koshi wrote: The only problem I have is why is Vivax going after JAT. Who wont be lynched ever. Maybe because then people say this and don't want to lynch him. Nono. This isn't a good thing. Why is Vivax opening your filter and trying to find scum? How do I know? Maybe he doesn't like how everyone is townreading me. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:43 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote: Vivax attacks me for voting geript instead of someone else when I wasn't sure about him. Then I attack batsnacks who I have a stronger scumread on and get him lynched. Now Vivax attacks me for this. None of this makes any fucking sense. You jumped onto the geript wagon for no other reason that he had more votes. You didn't attempt to move people to ritoky or lazer, or bats. Only after being on the geript wagon for as you claim, no strong reason, you initiated a counterpush on bats only. Later you apparently found reasons to vote geript out of spite and cause he was voting me but didn't although you said you intended to. A guy you never found suspicious up until that point suddenly became suspicious but not enough for you to vote. Why? Cause you knew bats was going to flip town imo. Will you finally stop lying? A guy I never found suspicious?! Why does it matter if I votde geript before starting my counterpush or not? There were 2 wagons and I put my vote on the wagon I thought was better. Case closed. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 03:46 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 03:43 Vivax wrote: On January 03 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote: Vivax attacks me for voting geript instead of someone else when I wasn't sure about him. Then I attack batsnacks who I have a stronger scumread on and get him lynched. Now Vivax attacks me for this. None of this makes any fucking sense. You jumped onto the geript wagon for no other reason that he had more votes. You didn't attempt to move people to ritoky or lazer, or bats. Only after being on the geript wagon for as you claim, no strong reason, you initiated a counterpush on bats only. Later you apparently found reasons to vote geript out of spite and cause he was voting me but didn't although you said you intended to. A guy you never found suspicious up until that point suddenly became suspicious but not enough for you to vote. Why? Cause you knew bats was going to flip town imo. Will you finally stop lying? A guy I never found suspicious?! Why does it matter if I votde geript before starting my counterpush or not? There were 2 wagons and I put my vote on the wagon I thought was better. Case closed. I'm not lying, I even quoted the part where you said that geript acting like a donkey might be townie, which is just before the votecount where you decide to pile onto him instead of say, Lazermonkey, or ritoky. Yes, I said that. After saying multiple times that I thought he was scummy. There was no wagon on Lazermonkey or Ritoky at the time. There were 2 wagons. Chyz and geript. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:51 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 03:51 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 03:49 Vivax wrote: On January 03 2015 03:46 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 03:43 Vivax wrote: On January 03 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote: Vivax attacks me for voting geript instead of someone else when I wasn't sure about him. Then I attack batsnacks who I have a stronger scumread on and get him lynched. Now Vivax attacks me for this. None of this makes any fucking sense. You jumped onto the geript wagon for no other reason that he had more votes. You didn't attempt to move people to ritoky or lazer, or bats. Only after being on the geript wagon for as you claim, no strong reason, you initiated a counterpush on bats only. Later you apparently found reasons to vote geript out of spite and cause he was voting me but didn't although you said you intended to. A guy you never found suspicious up until that point suddenly became suspicious but not enough for you to vote. Why? Cause you knew bats was going to flip town imo. Will you finally stop lying? A guy I never found suspicious?! Why does it matter if I votde geript before starting my counterpush or not? There were 2 wagons and I put my vote on the wagon I thought was better. Case closed. I'm not lying, I even quoted the part where you said that geript acting like a donkey might be townie, which is just before the votecount where you decide to pile onto him instead of say, Lazermonkey, or ritoky. Yes, I said that. After saying multiple times that I thought he was scummy. There was no wagon on Lazermonkey or Ritoky at the time. There were 2 wagons. Chyz and geript. Then why did you try so hard to move people onto the bats wagon if a geript lynch would have sufficed according to what you say now? Because I had a stronger scumread on batsnacks maybe? Are you dense?! | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Actually JAT, I am curious what you thought what became more scummy about Geript. His vote on Vivax felt neutral because I just couldn't find a motivation for it, town or scum, and the posts he made closely leading up to the lynch I couldn't place in a mafia mindset. Exactly. It was crunchtime. Geript made an extremely weird vote. I didn't know what to make of it. | ||
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On January 03 2015 03:55 Vivax wrote: And by the way JAT, can you point out all instances where you've actually pointed out what was scummy about geript BEFORE you voted for him, I actually found the opposite when you said he might be acting townie. Look for yourself I am not doing your work for you. If you are town you are wasting your time attacking the most obvious townie in the game and if you are scum then I am not willing to help you either. | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:00 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 03:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 03:55 Vivax wrote: And by the way JAT, can you point out all instances where you've actually pointed out what was scummy about geript BEFORE you voted for him, I actually found the opposite when you said he might be acting townie. Look for yourself I am not doing your work for you. If you are town you are wasting your time attacking the most obvious townie in the game and if you are scum then I am not willing to help you either. OK, then I say: YOU MENTION NOTHING THAT MAKES GERIPT SCUM, BUT STILL VOTE FOR HIM ONLY CAUSE HE HAS A MAJORITY. Then I say you are lying and everyone who wants to know the truth is free to open my filter and see. | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:02 Koshi wrote: Just ignore Vivax. Ignore and vote tomorrow. That's probably a good idea. | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:04 IAmRobik wrote: Everyone saying I'm mafia for my vote is dumb. My vote literally didn't matter. Even if I had voted geript, bat would have been lynched. I already explained the only way I'm mafia in that scenario Fair enough. You promised to wreck after day though. Not seeing the wrecking tbh. | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 04:32 Damdred wrote: On January 03 2015 04:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 03 2015 04:22 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, what does your town list look like? I'm wondering f it is similar to minr Dr. H Koshi JAT (I feel like how he took up 'leadership' during the night was something he wouldn't do as scum on reconsideration) Palmar Kelsier Eden I'm also liking VE but it's too early to tell. That is the worst reason to town read JAT i've ever seen, there are other reasons to town read him. But if he rolls scum he picks up the leadership just as fast thats why hes the champ. I don't think so. He had a strong scumread on Geript. He'd only have a reason to switch to Bats if both him and Geript were scum, and if that were the case I don't think a scum JAT with this much influence would've allowed it to get to the wire like this. I find a scum JAT/Geript team very hard to imagine and thus see no reason for a scum JAT to take charge and avert a Geript lynch last second. This is a good post. | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. | ||
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On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read. Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game. Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:09 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:07 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:05 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 05:02 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 04:47 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: lol what? Where did you get that read from? It's just how I read your posts. They don't seem angry or emotion-filled. They just seem bland like everything is ok Did you read anything that was posted during the night? Ya. I've read mostly everything. If you're going to ask me to quote specific posts, I won't be able to. Like I said, it's just how I perceive your emotional state whole writing the posts. No idea how you get that read. Absolutely no idea. And even if this was true it wouldn't be alignment indicative. It is very weird that this is all you have to show for your read on me after all that I have done this game. Well, given my inability to play d1 since the game started on a fucking holiday-my favorite holiday of the year no less- I can only judge based off of eod1 and night phase. I sheeped you onto a town because it appeared my lynxh target wasn't happening, and it seemed like you took charge which was a good sign. It was clear that you were pushing Geripty and I don't see you as maf/maf so I felt comfortable following you. However, we did end up lynching a townie. We also ended up not lynching geript whose alignment is unknown. So if geript is scum, you're town but made a blunder. If he's town, you could be town for leading or scum for trying to get cred for if geript flips town you can say "why would I do that as scum" Good job. You figured out I could theoretically be scum or town because of the lynch. That's not a read. Artanis proposed a scenario where you can only be town this game. I proposed one where you are scum for reasons a and b. I also explained why I could be wrong. I don't have to take a hard stance to be analyzing the game. Yeah, but you said he shouldn't have a townread on me while you obviously don't even have a read on me which is very atypical for you at this point in the game btw. Except for the part where I have admittedly not played the first 3/4 of the game. Maybe. Still looking forward to all the wrecking. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:16 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 03 2015 05:03 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 04:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 03 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote: @artanis, nope not really. Maybe Dandred. I had to look back at the player list. Everyone has been fairly scummy. Obv I think you're town too Game is hard, only 4 town vs 10 mafia. I can get behind Damdred I guess, with some reservations. His suspects are kinda weird but he does seem to be prodding quite nicely and is pretty paranoid. I just hope you, Marv and Luigi come out to play on D2. I think that even though my filter size was lacking, I still managed to give decent substantiated reads d1. Basically what you are saying about DrHamd what others are saying about him is something I articulated early on into the game. I don't recall all the reads I gave but I think they've been decently solid. I also think (wifom) that I wouldn't be as self-aware as I am regarding my play. I stated that I was more nervous of people TRing me than scum reading me because I think the people who are scum reading me are probably analyzing and thinking about the game more clearly than those who are TRing me. I am town, but the people giving me town reads are more likely doing it based off of TMI If you feel you've given substantiated reads, why do you think people townreading you are more likely to be scum than people scum reading you? They were town reading me before that for not playing. I specifically remember ritoky doing it but I don't remember who else did. It just felt weird and like I said, it irked me that JAT puts pressure on me every game and now this game all of a sudden he doesn't. Think hard about it. Could there be a reason for me to give you a one day pass in this game that did not exist in others? | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote: It's not about what you believe. It's about what I believe you believe For you. Not for me. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I can't get over sicklucker saying town is fucked when he also thinks town caught 2 mafia in the other bandwagons...why assume chyz or geript will survive this game Yeah, sicklucker is rubbing me the wrong way too. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:29 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 01:47 justanothertownie wrote: To all the people complaining about the lynch - next time you stay up until 6 am and push what YOU think and then you can complain. GTFO Koshi at least really tried to make us lynch Vivax so he is allowed to rage a little but Palmar you are certainly not. And if anyone keeps telling me that this was obviously batsnacks towngame I am calling you a liar. Or an idiot. Your choice. No I tried to make you kill geript. The deadline is at 5 am. Fuck you for saying I'm not allowed to be mad when I even said that I was going to bed, and I actually explained who to vote for if you guys really wanted to voteswitch. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote: geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play. On January 02 2015 06:05 geript wrote: Also, fwiw Artanis, I saw this lynch coming yesterday. Considering the situation, activity, etc. It's a really hard lynch to get out of and all I can do is do my best to steer who to next. This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing. In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it. There are only two options here. #1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence. #2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation. I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch. Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him. And then this post. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:33 Palmar wrote: [b]I'm going to bed. If you idiots voteswitch (I know last minute switching is like some fucked up porn for TL mafia players. You think it's a great idea, and you love it while it's happening, but you don't know what to think of yourself afterwards) then Vivax isn't a bad choice. Tbh I'd be sorta okay lynching Chyz, his "I quit" post is completely unacceptable behavior. You need the balls to stand up to a bit of tunneling in mafia, but I just think he has less of a chance to flip mafia than geript or vivax. You ignored me on three better lynches and lynched a townread of mine. This means you cannot be anything other than mafia. Also, you saying it's not reasonable for me to be mad is so dumb that I'm okay with lynching you no matter your alignment. Tomorrow, you're the one I'm voting. And every day after that until one of us is dead. I will repost this exact post if needed, as contains everything required to completely prove you're mafia or so bad as town that you're not worth keeping alive. lol, cute | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:29 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:27 justanothertownie wrote: You don't think I would give you a one day pass after you explicitly said you would up your play day2 when you have a perfectly valid reason not to be very active day1? Yup. I think you're too aggro as town to give anyone a pass. "Fuck you, if you're not gonna play I'm gonna lynch you". Especially me who you notoriously call mafia every game Then you are just wrong. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yeah but don't we agree on his three reads there? JAT you suspect Vivax and geript too do you not? I think we should lynch geript tomorrow and get this game where it should have been tonight before we start lynching for pride Maybe. We will see tomorrow. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:32 marvellosity wrote: just got home and not read anything other than this page. jat is town, as fearsome as his mafia game may be, he's not 16 pages before day 2 starts on a NYE start good. fin You need to push a lynch day2. It annoys me to no end that I still think you are town even though your filter length is a joke and you didn't seem to really care about the lynch yesterday. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Yeah but don't we agree on his three reads there? JAT you suspect Vivax and geript too do you not? I think we should lynch geript tomorrow and get this game where it should have been tonight before we start lynching for pride Maybe. We will see tomorrow. You're not down with a geript lynch? What would you suggest as a better jumping off point. I don't know what I will be down with tomorrow. I would like to see the nightkills for example and reevaluate then. Geript is certainly on my list though. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:37 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:32 marvellosity wrote: just got home and not read anything other than this page. jat is town, as fearsome as his mafia game may be, he's not 16 pages before day 2 starts on a NYE start good. fin If this is I seriously need to reconsider me thinking he's actually a good player. This was not only the worst lynch of this year, but possibly the worst lynch I've seen for a long time. yawn | ||
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On January 02 2015 00:25 Palmar wrote: Batsnacks is sort of meh whatever, but at least he is quite unapologetic about his lazy posting. Maybe a very, very slight lean town read. such townread many defense wow | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:46 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: Batsnacks was not playing his towngame. It was obviously a bad lynch since he was town but don't even try to sell that it was an obvious mislynch, Palmar. Yes it was, "he was not playing his towngame" is not a thing. You have to demonstrate why what he is doing makes him mafia. That is what I did. And I just quoted the only post you ever made about batsnacks. Does not look like an obvious townread to me. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:50 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:46 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: Batsnacks was not playing his towngame. It was obviously a bad lynch since he was town but don't even try to sell that it was an obvious mislynch, Palmar. Yes it was, "he was not playing his towngame" is not a thing. You have to demonstrate why what he is doing makes him mafia. That is what I did. And I just quoted the only post you ever made about batsnacks. Does not look like an obvious townread to me. it's a townread, sure he had posted like 15 words or something, so it was never going to be strong. But you just don't lynch my townreads on day 1. Never. You mean like bunnies shouldn't have shot Breshke last game, eh? | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:51 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:51 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:50 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:46 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: Batsnacks was not playing his towngame. It was obviously a bad lynch since he was town but don't even try to sell that it was an obvious mislynch, Palmar. Yes it was, "he was not playing his towngame" is not a thing. You have to demonstrate why what he is doing makes him mafia. That is what I did. And I just quoted the only post you ever made about batsnacks. Does not look like an obvious townread to me. it's a townread, sure he had posted like 15 words or something, so it was never going to be strong. But you just don't lynch my townreads on day 1. Never. You mean like bunnies shouldn't have shot Breshke last game, eh? wasn't day 1. Checkmate. Was night1. You consistently townread breshke day1/night1. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. Really? Then I shouldn't listen to you tomorrow I guess? | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:52 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:50 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:47 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:46 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: Batsnacks was not playing his towngame. It was obviously a bad lynch since he was town but don't even try to sell that it was an obvious mislynch, Palmar. Yes it was, "he was not playing his towngame" is not a thing. You have to demonstrate why what he is doing makes him mafia. That is what I did. And I just quoted the only post you ever made about batsnacks. Does not look like an obvious townread to me. it's a townread, sure he had posted like 15 words or something, so it was never going to be strong. But you just don't lynch my townreads on day 1. Never. You mean like bunnies shouldn't have shot Breshke last game, eh? wasn't day 1. Checkmate. Was night1. You consistently townread breshke day1/night1. So what, didn't I lynch mafia day 1? It was a good thing we didn't lynch Broski. Stop arguing this, you can go back through like million games. I consistently admit that I always miss one mafia. That doesn't mean you should try to lynch the one townread of mine that happens to be mafia. It's still bad play. Good point. I concede. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:54 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. Really? Then I shouldn't listen to you tomorrow I guess? You wouldn't anyway, as I'm voting you. Then you are even more terrible than I am. | ||
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On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch. As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:01 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:00 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: if he came to have a scumread on your townread why would voting for them be a bad idea? if it was successful it's still a bad idea because it makes your reads seem less perfect? fuck off with that No because generally (and I say generally, maybe I'm completely wrong on everything this game? who knows?) if I throw out like 6-10 townreads there's usually only going to be 1 mafia in there. Again, maybe this is the game where I get everything wrong, but let's assume it's not. Just from a statistical point of view it's better to lynch outside the players I've townread, because if most of the townreads are correct (even if 1 or maybe 2 are wrong) there's going to be more mafia in the remaining players. But I cba arguing this. batsnacks was a terrible lynch. Now all my reads are fucked up and I will be awful for the rest of the game because I can't tell dumb from scum. Here's to hoping mafia just shoots me to rid town of me. relax man we can turn this shit around Not if he is voting me every day. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:04 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 05:56 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:54 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:54 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. Really? Then I shouldn't listen to you tomorrow I guess? You wouldn't anyway, as I'm voting you. Then you are even more terrible than I am. Yes, I have a few strengths and a few weaknesses in mafia. List of weaknesses: 1: I'm terrible in the mid-game, because I can't tell dumb from scum. So I repeatedly lynch people who don't agree with me. 2: I generally give one mafia a free pass for no good reason 3: I ignore mafia all the time. When I have players I've mostly ignored, those players often tend to be mafia (think superbia this game). So yes, I know that there is a possibility you're dumb town. You're either dumb town or scum. And I just have to roll the dice. Of all the people on that shitty wagon, you're the one who should have had the sense to actually get things done properly, but you didn't. I don't think you're dumb JAT, so by process of elimination, you must be mafia. You don't have to roll the dice. You could also use your fucking brain if you are town and evaluate the rest of my play. Doesn't marv saying that I am definitely town mean anything to you? Regardless of his alignment he will only say this if he really thinks it is true. If you are not able to play this game as town because someone lynched a guy you had a maybe very very slight town lean on then you are trashtier and I don't think you are trashtier. So you have to be mafia by POE. See how this works? | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:04 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch. As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia. yeh what I meant was why didnt you switch when the alarm bells went off. I'm not sure I buy your explanation Like dam,eden and SL's reasons are all awful and they are at the deadline with bad reasons....I just think you are a better player than that and the last second awful ninja vote doesn't make you switch? Explain the mafia motivation behind the last second awful ninja vote. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:05 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man See, another guy who is either dumb or scum. I was absent because the deadline is 5am my time. And it is 6 fucking am my time and I still stayed up and tried to make a good lynch happen. Fuck off. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:10 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:04 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch. As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia. yeh what I meant was why didnt you switch when the alarm bells went off. I'm not sure I buy your explanation Like dam,eden and SL's reasons are all awful and they are at the deadline with bad reasons....I just think you are a better player than that and the last second awful ninja vote doesn't make you switch? Explain the mafia motivation behind the last second awful ninja vote. geript is mafia That's not an answer. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:12 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On January 03 2015 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not townreading Palmar fwiw You're trash. Your posts are fucking garbage. He tunneled Geript on Day 1 and no one thought he was scum for it at the time. That proves he can't be mafia. trash. Please to make more sense. This is the most nonsensical post in this game. I'm about to rescind my TR of you for this post alone. It's like you wanna be me but you can't be me because I'm the only me in the game It is obviously a parody of Palmar dude. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:12 Palmar wrote: [ ] I did not read the game, therefore I didn't know Palmar was interested in participating. [ ] I am mafia [ ] I am just really awful at this thinking thing [x] I don't believe the world is round, so timezones are just a myth created by the man to keep us down. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:12 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:10 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:10 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:04 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 05:56 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 05:53 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 05:51 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Do you want to move on and lynch geript tomorrow Palmar or have you done enough of convincing us that you're awesome I'm not awesome. I'm just explaining that the people who lynched batsnacks are terrible. So reading through the lynch. I had a scum read on bats, a few others did. Then JAT was like "lets lynch bats" then random fuckwads came out the woodwork and lynched bats for bad reasons/no reasons/ every thing he said reason (eden) So if i'm JAT in that position I would be like fuck this and go back to geript. assuming JAT is good. JAT you even said something like "why are you people here now" or "this feels bad" just explain why the alarm bells didn't go off and make you switch. As you can see by the things you quote in this very posts the alarm bells DID go off. But people arriving at deadline aren't necessarily scum and I just wasn't sure if geript was the better lynch since he acted so defeated and I had a difficult time seeing him be like that as mafia. yeh what I meant was why didnt you switch when the alarm bells went off. I'm not sure I buy your explanation Like dam,eden and SL's reasons are all awful and they are at the deadline with bad reasons....I just think you are a better player than that and the last second awful ninja vote doesn't make you switch? Explain the mafia motivation behind the last second awful ninja vote. geript is mafia That's not an answer. ok geript is mafia vigi and mafia need to preserve KP so they jump on bats to ensure geript doesn't die. That could be a reason. 3 people who have done nothing towny at all ( and SL who I have shown has played pretty scummy) come out with bad reasons to jump on a wagon and lynch town. That still has nothing to do with my question. Explain the scum motivation for geripts ninja vote when he could have just voted batsnacks instead and improved the odds for his own survival. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:15 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:10 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:05 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man See, another guy who is either dumb or scum. I was absent because the deadline is 5am my time. And it is 6 fucking am my time and I still stayed up and tried to make a good lynch happen. Fuck off. Ironic that a better lynch would probably have happened if you just fucked off to sleep. You did no good. You are so mean to me.... ;( | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: also if geript votes bats, and bats flips town who the fuck do you think we lynch d2? so then mafia goes 1-1 with town and like everyone who voted on geripts d1 which is like 6 people suddenly become confirmed town. That is probably why he doesn't vote bats. Geript voting bats does not make anyone lynch geript. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:18 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:15 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 06:10 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:05 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 06:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Palmar is the one who told the scum to sheep JATs vote so he could come in here and try to collect town cred in light of his absence from most of yesterdays discussion leading up to the lynch. If he is town, we're still in a good position with heat on his two known scumreads but instead he's mad about not getting the cred and being obeyed - that was his true goal. It's so clear in my head man See, another guy who is either dumb or scum. I was absent because the deadline is 5am my time. And it is 6 fucking am my time and I still stayed up and tried to make a good lynch happen. Fuck off. Ironic that a better lynch would probably have happened if you just fucked off to sleep. You did no good. You are so mean to me.... ;( God like how does town!jat ever make this post? lol | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: also if geript votes bats, and bats flips town who the fuck do you think we lynch d2? so then mafia goes 1-1 with town and like everyone who voted on geripts d1 which is like 6 people suddenly become confirmed town. That is probably why he doesn't vote bats. Geript voting bats does not make anyone lynch geript. ... Well I am happy to lynch geript today anyway. If he voted on a town to save himself that just confirms it for me. Every sane townie votes for the counterwagon to save himself. Are you kidding me? | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:26 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:23 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: also if geript votes bats, and bats flips town who the fuck do you think we lynch d2? so then mafia goes 1-1 with town and like everyone who voted on geripts d1 which is like 6 people suddenly become confirmed town. That is probably why he doesn't vote bats. Geript voting bats does not make anyone lynch geript. ... Well I am happy to lynch geript today anyway. If he voted on a town to save himself that just confirms it for me. WHAT?!?!? JAT seems to be under the impression that geript isn't going to get lynched today and that he wouldn't have looked scummy at all if he voted bats. I am correcting that impression I NEVER said geript wouldn't be lynched. What I am saying is that voting for his counter wagon isn't scummy in the slightest. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:27 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:26 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:23 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 06:20 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:18 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:16 KelsierSC wrote: also if geript votes bats, and bats flips town who the fuck do you think we lynch d2? so then mafia goes 1-1 with town and like everyone who voted on geripts d1 which is like 6 people suddenly become confirmed town. That is probably why he doesn't vote bats. Geript voting bats does not make anyone lynch geript. ... Well I am happy to lynch geript today anyway. If he voted on a town to save himself that just confirms it for me. WHAT?!?!? JAT seems to be under the impression that geript isn't going to get lynched today and that he wouldn't have looked scummy at all if he voted bats. I am correcting that impression I NEVER said geript wouldn't be lynched. What I am saying is that voting for his counter wagon isn't scummy in the slightest. right cool. but you asked me the motivation behind geript's vote and I gave it to you. No. My point is that geript as mafia should have voted bats. Geript as a townie also should have voted bats. Hence my confusion about his ninja vote which is essentially just extremely weird and a null tell. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote: Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other. wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats. !!!!!! WTF | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:31 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:29 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 06:28 sicklucker wrote: Like this game is actually madness. My only decent town reads left are like marv and robik and now they want to kill each other. wtf you townread eden,dam ,artanis and drH enough to vote on bats. i mean sure but from my pov its unlikely everyone was town in a mislynch. There also trying to all bury me. Im still leaning town but not strong on eden artanis doc. I just completely recend my dandred read. That was a weak early read he has not really backed it up. I somehow get the feeling you are talking right out of your ass man. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:31 KelsierSC wrote: basically JAT I had an issue with you not switching off bats when the votes and bad cases came in from eden,SL and dam because you didn't town read them and it was such a bad last minute lynch. But then I read your filter and you didn't scum read geript so I don't mind it as much. Whatever. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript doesnt need to vote to save himself all he has to do is uhhh have a teammate vote for bats right? In what world is that a reach That's not very plausible to me. Why would the scumteam sacrifice another player if geript could just do the job himself without looking any scummier for it? If we lynch geript at some point the buddy who hammers bats looks awful. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 06:43 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript doesnt need to vote to save himself all he has to do is uhhh have a teammate vote for bats right? In what world is that a reach That's not very plausible to me. Why would the scumteam sacrifice another player if geript could just do the job himself without looking any scummier for it? If we lynch geript at some point the buddy who hammers bats looks awful. Yeah, sicklucker will look awful when we lynch geript. I'd do the same thing if I was geript. Switch votes to try to cause chaos cause I know I'm fucked no matter what happens. If a buddy can hide in the votes it's fine and the way sicklucker avoided responsibility for his vote by not giving real reasons for it and then moaning about how bad the game is fucked after is all wrong. Geript also could have switched from vivax to sicklucker if he needed to, who says he wasn't watching the votes closely ready to switch at the last second? I guess you are right. Maybe. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:51 sicklucker wrote: No like hes not. Im to arrogant to help a scum team mate who gave up played horrible and wont even vote to save himself. Like fuck that shit I would let him burn. If I continue to bus gerit Im like instantly town read by the entire game because I was the first person to push him. If I wanted to just get town read I stay on gerit. Theres only town motivation for sheeping my town reads. That's not how this game works bro. | ||
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On January 03 2015 06:59 sicklucker wrote: Who made that list post on the people who wasted their votes? because that was really good. Was that ritoky or eden? Eden I think. | ||
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On January 03 2015 07:45 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 07:42 Koshi wrote: On January 03 2015 07:29 GlowingBear wrote: Koshi, what do you make of the final votecount? That there are not enough votes on Vivax. Well, do you believe the wagon on bats was pure town? What do you believe? | ||
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On January 03 2015 08:18 Palmar wrote: Dumbest read of the day goes to you sir. Yeah, way to embarass yourself... | ||
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On January 03 2015 08:19 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 02:18 Vivax wrote: On January 03 2015 02:16 Koshi wrote: Is there any reason why you are being hostile towards jat? Do you think he is scum? Yes his noisy presence when I attempted to analyse Eden's posts in thread bothered me and now that I see evidence for him claiming to have some sort of interest into figuring Eden out but then doing exactly the opposite you can expect some more hostility from me. lol is this even a post? Just wait. There is more. | ||
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On January 03 2015 08:29 marvellosity wrote: this can't come from a town Vivax can it? You tell me. I am kinda biased. | ||
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On January 03 2015 08:33 Vivax wrote: Palmar why am I mafia. Show nested quote + I was mostly trolling, or I guess venting, with the JAT thing. Don't lynch him automatically, but make sure that if he does more dumb shit you do And why say that by PoE he's mafia, then turn it into trolling.cause it looks like he wasn't following your orders on lynching geript, is hence dumb, but we have to be on the lookout for further happenings from his part, and right after you put him into the townpile. Understanding this isn't exactly rocket science. | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote: I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time It was way more helpful than you are being right so so there is that. | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:17 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 09:12 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:10 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote: I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time Thanks for spending time to run a word count on that post. What would you like to discuss instead? You're welcome. I'd like to discuss who is/isn't mafia instead of why/how your gameplay changed. Maybe I'm asking too much Well, you don't need my permission. (Do you?) What are you waiting for? i've given my thoughts, but you talking about how your game has changed isn't providing anything to the game. It's a waste of fucking space and now it's wasting my time talking about how it was a waste of space and how JAT should ask better questions The question is very relevant and nobody forces you to waste several posts complaining about it. Are you scum? | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:21 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 09:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 09:17 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 09:12 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:10 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote: I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time Thanks for spending time to run a word count on that post. What would you like to discuss instead? You're welcome. I'd like to discuss who is/isn't mafia instead of why/how your gameplay changed. Maybe I'm asking too much Well, you don't need my permission. (Do you?) What are you waiting for? i've given my thoughts, but you talking about how your game has changed isn't providing anything to the game. It's a waste of fucking space and now it's wasting my time talking about how it was a waste of space and how JAT should ask better questions The question is very relevant and nobody forces you to waste several posts complaining about it. Are you scum? A+ questions. Once you get to 10 questions that are indescribably bad, I'll maybe answer all of them. But I'll give you a freebie: Show nested quote + no, but that's probably what i would answer in either alignment since I haven't scum claimed in a while Well, you who just answered a rhetorical questions flames Eden for answering a genuine question. Nice. | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:31 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 09:28 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:17 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 09:12 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:10 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 09:09 Eden1892 wrote: On January 03 2015 09:07 IAmRobik wrote: I can't believe you just spent 627 words describing how you've changed since a game 3 months ago. Thanks for wasting peoples time. And thanks to JAT for asking a useless question that cause him to waste peoples time Thanks for spending time to run a word count on that post. What would you like to discuss instead? You're welcome. I'd like to discuss who is/isn't mafia instead of why/how your gameplay changed. Maybe I'm asking too much Well, you don't need my permission. (Do you?) What are you waiting for? i've given my thoughts, but you talking about how your game has changed isn't providing anything to the game. It's a waste of fucking space and now it's wasting my time talking about how it was a waste of space and how JAT should ask better questions You said this about one of post of mine in a side tangent literally at the same time as multiple other, perhaps more directly salient lines of conversation were going on. You are just as guilty of "wasting time" on it as we are since you could have just left it alone and spent those posts talking about whatever you feel was a better use of your time. And that's assuming all of that was indeed a waste, JAT apparently found it useful and for reasons outside the game I found it incredibly helpful as well (although I'll acknowledge that doesn't do anything for you in this game right now). Please restate your most important thought right now for me. I'm obivously bringing it up becuase I believe if JAT is more scummy cause he's pretending to participate as opposed to actually participating Yeah, like I pretended to lynch a guy yesterday. I am an awesome actor. | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:32 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 09:02 Palmar wrote: On January 03 2015 08:59 KelsierSC wrote: On January 03 2015 08:58 IAmRobik wrote: Kelsersc, can you explain the TMI part of your accusation on Eden? Do you know what TMI even means? yes he has 3 reasons instaantly to scum read bats, everything bats did was scummy apparenty and how is that tmi. in fact, Eden wanting to lynch batsnacks was a serious case of TLI yes that is exactly what I am saying You are aware that Palmar is saying that Eden is probably town? | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:35 IAmRobik wrote: I've talked about JAT at great length...just look towards the end of my filter yada yada yada he could be scum or town but i'm leaning scum And that is why you are scum or at least not the best player in this game :p | ||
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On January 03 2015 09:36 Lazermonkey wrote: Sorry for noob-question... what is tmi and tli? tmi: too much information Happens when a scumplayer has a read on someone that is a little too good. Because he actually knows that it is correct. Palmar just used tli to name the opposite. | ||
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On January 03 2015 10:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote: vivax case on jat was bullshit if anyone wanna.revisit that gem You don't say! | ||
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On January 03 2015 13:28 KelsierSC wrote: yeh geript,SL and Dam those should be the lynch targets tomorrow Vivax | ||
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marv, VE, Robik and geript Their play so far is really underwhelming if they are town. | ||
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On January 03 2015 13:44 sicklucker wrote: Me? Ya for the most part. Eden and doct are def town. Artanis most likely town. Dandred can still be town. I thought all those reads were gone now and marv and some other guy I forgot were your only townreads? | ||
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On January 03 2015 13:44 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote: And definitely keep a close eye on these people day2: marv, VE, Robik and geript Their play so far is really underwhelming if they are town. I've played a pretty stellar game thus far So you are claiming mafia I take it? | ||
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On January 03 2015 13:47 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 13:44 sicklucker wrote: Me? Ya for the most part. Eden and doct are def town. Artanis most likely town. Dandred can still be town. I thought all those reads were gone now and marv and some other guy I forgot were your only townreads? he only likes marv and robik but he is now not sure because they are both fighting Then where are those townread coming from again? oO | ||
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On January 03 2015 13:48 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 13:44 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 13:34 justanothertownie wrote: And definitely keep a close eye on these people day2: marv, VE, Robik and geript Their play so far is really underwhelming if they are town. I've played a pretty stellar game thus far So you are claiming mafia I take it? WTF? How have I not played a good game? Please enlighten me? Have I not given reads? Have I lurked since EOD? The game I'm playing is textbook Robik!town play Then maybe we have different standards for "good game" and "textbook Robik!town play". | ||
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On January 03 2015 14:34 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 14:32 justanothertownie wrote: Those assholes basically killed my two best townreads. Depressing. Good night. do you think you're gonna get me lynched this game silly silly JAT Is that your interpretation of my post? | ||
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On January 03 2015 14:37 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 14:35 justanothertownie wrote: On January 03 2015 14:34 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 14:32 justanothertownie wrote: Those assholes basically killed my two best townreads. Depressing. Good night. do you think you're gonna get me lynched this game silly silly JAT Is that your interpretation of my post? that's my interpretation of the night kills lol Shape up if you are town. I am not mafia and you should know that. Your luck that we will kill Vivax today. | ||
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Now, why would you do that as town? Because you are angry at my posting style? I find that very hard to believe. You are generally a decent townplayer and this is shit tier. It is way more likely that you are just scum. Regardless of your alignment you will never get me lynched this game in a billion years so stop wasting your time. You aren't enabling a hard lynch, you just make yourself look worse and worse. So, you are telling us to only consider what you did night1? You sure about that? Like 85 % of your posts night1 you tunneled the most obvious townie in the game for hilariously bad reasons. This makes 85 % of your play completely useless bullshit. Why don't you try and present us a realistic lynch target instead? Are you afraid to incriminate your buddies? | ||
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On January 04 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 00:09 justanothertownie wrote: Look Vivax. You decided to scumread me, then went into my filter and twisted everything you could find in the most ridiculous way possible to find an angle to attack me. You even scumread me for completely contradictory reasons in the same post multiple times now. This is what you did regardless of your alignment. Don't even question it. Now, why would you do that as town? Because you are angry at my posting style? I find that very hard to believe. You are generally a decent townplayer and this is shit tier. It is way more likely that you are just scum. Regardless of your alignment you will never get me lynched this game in a billion years so stop wasting your time. You aren't enabling a hard lynch, you just make yourself look worse and worse. So, you are telling us to only consider what you did night1? You sure about that? Like 85 % of your posts night1 you tunneled the most obvious townie in the game for hilariously bad reasons. This makes 85 % of your play completely useless bullshit. Why don't you try and present us a realistic lynch target instead? Are you afraid to incriminate your buddies? All you're saying is without backup. Whatever I said is based on facts I quoted multiple times and just cause you spam shit at every possible occasion during D1 doesn't make you town, it just makes you spammy. In fact there's only little in your filter that is salvageable to something that allows me to read you and the little I found I had to find without you giving any help at doing that, see your geript read. You didn't willingly talk about you scumreading geript and then still trying to get people to townread him before throwing your vote at him. You refused to show the point where you somehow gave a read on geript cause you think that being spammy already warrants you to be universally townread which is sadly something a lot of people fall for. I started scumreading you precisely at the point where I noticed you being spammy as fuck when I tried to analyse Eden and you just came yelling into the thread. Then I was like "Oh fuck huge filter" and looking through it it was really just rather empty from information. It's mostly you making conversational one-liners that don't lead anywhere except for the point where you start making your case on bats which was based on thin reasoning since his post on Lazermonkey was good in my opinion (even more odd is that you found Lazermonkey suspicious yourself at some point earlier but ignored what bats wrote about him and instead went as far as saying he had no scumreads to push for his lynhc.). You aren't the most obvious townie, you just talk way too much for this game to be analyseable and the little you have that can be analysed looks bad. yawn Just keep burying yourself then. | ||
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You are still only talking about me and not about people that could actually be lynched. | ||
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On January 04 2015 01:45 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 22:36 marvellosity wrote: On January 03 2015 22:34 Vivax wrote: On January 03 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote: do you really believe what you're writing? What am I doing wrong? Like, if you know better don't just stand around and tell me I'm bullshitting show me what I misunderstood and lead me to a better track instead of standing on the sidelines and just throwing around snarky comments. Show me why I'm wrong on JAT, or tell me where my argument is wrong, or tell me who a better lynch is who isn't me. I already explained the near 100% heuristic on why jat is not and can't be mafia. You're also picking holes in a townleader who took the time and effort to find a lynch at some ridiculous time of the morning. like i can't believe you're nitpicking shit and missing the bigger picture. it's the lack of big picture from you which is really concerning. Marv what's the most funny thing here that also can easily make you mafia (besides that you're trying to mislynch me) is that you praise JAT for finding a lynch when it wasn't the guy you wanted to lynch. And you're usually very keen on lynching your own scumreads, instead here you townread a guy for starting a wagon on your not-scumread and effectively achieving alynch that wasn't your own preference. Not only is it irrelevant. Batsnacks was also in marvs lynchpool. Nice try though. | ||
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On January 04 2015 01:55 marvellosity wrote: it feels very much like you've dug this hole and you've decided to stick it out. Yes. I mean if we lynch him we gain absolutely no information since all he is talking about is me. | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote: JAT now if you truly are town I want you to consider this. If my scumread on you is wrong then scum is trying to capitalize on this shitstorm right this moment and I want you to monitor that type of activity cause you will have to think back to it after my flip. Do we have an agreement. You are thinking I am scum, remember? Of course scum will be on your wagon regardless of your alignment. | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:19 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 02:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote: JAT now if you truly are town I want you to consider this. If my scumread on you is wrong then scum is trying to capitalize on this shitstorm right this moment and I want you to monitor that type of activity cause you will have to think back to it after my flip. Do we have an agreement. You are thinking I am scum, remember? Of course scum will be on your wagon regardless of your alignment. Yes I think you're scum for aforementioned reasons, but now, for the eventuality that I'm wrong, and since apparently almost everyone is convinced I'm scum already and the day can slowly drift towards my lynch, if you got nothing better to do you can prepare to make analysis based on me flipping town. Provided you are and truly care about solving the game, which I doubt but I'm just setting up an insurance for the case I was wrong on you, cause I want the fuckers to be caught. What a useless towncoachy post. | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:20 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 02:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote: JAT now if you truly are town I want you to consider this. If my scumread on you is wrong then scum is trying to capitalize on this shitstorm right this moment and I want you to monitor that type of activity cause you will have to think back to it after my flip. Do we have an agreement. You are thinking I am scum, remember? Of course scum will be on your wagon regardless of your alignment. What do you mean? Well, if he is a mislynch scum will be on it. If he is scum they will bus the fuck out of him because he has been dead in the water since night1. | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:24 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 02:21 Damdred wrote: Ok back from taking the wife. Kel please answer my question, even if it isn't pertinent to you I would appreciate it. On January 04 2015 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Like we let a guy who posted a baby seal see another day. I'm disappointed. I mean you go hard against vivax and then you post this and instead of following up on it and trying to push the discussion to it you go hard on vivax again? Mislynch wagon set up. All he'd hav to do is pour some more coals into the fire, and he asks this question. Remember guys: This dude is town. rofl | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:29 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 02:21 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 02:20 KelsierSC wrote: On January 04 2015 02:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 02:02 Vivax wrote: JAT now if you truly are town I want you to consider this. If my scumread on you is wrong then scum is trying to capitalize on this shitstorm right this moment and I want you to monitor that type of activity cause you will have to think back to it after my flip. Do we have an agreement. You are thinking I am scum, remember? Of course scum will be on your wagon regardless of your alignment. What do you mean? Well, if he is a mislynch scum will be on it. If he is scum they will bus the fuck out of him because he has been dead in the water since night1. This post is actually interesting cause you treat yourself as so obvious town but then assume that it would be scum to go after you, when scum usually prefers more cozy options. wat | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:37 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 09:35 IAmRobik wrote: I've talked about JAT at great length...just look towards the end of my filter yada yada yada he could be scum or town but i'm leaning scum -inbetween nothing about JAT- Today: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 14:31 IAmRobik wrote: no one has to post today other than to say "##vote: vivax" # ninjavoted at last minute to get bats lynched # the wagon one of his suspects started ^scum Not bad. Keep the bus running pls. | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:42 KelsierSC wrote: Hmm I really don't want t kill robik though. I think there are probably 4 better lynches Why? | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:44 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 02:42 KelsierSC wrote: Hmm I really don't want t kill robik though. I think there are probably 4 better lynches Dude why does he call JAT scum at some point, then join his wagon, and then completely ignore the discussion that's been going between me and JAT only to remain with a vote on me when clearly he only chose me cause the odds are more in JATS favour? Does it look like he has the slightest interest in figuring out either of us? His night posts are pure banter. This implies that I am town btw. | ||
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On January 04 2015 02:56 Vivax wrote: I'm missing marv's usual omnipresence when discussing these points. It has been missing the whole game. | ||
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On January 04 2015 03:22 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 03:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax is starting to make sense. Kelsier why don't you want to lynch Robik? Do you? I think there are better lynches. That is not a why. | ||
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On January 04 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote: before the night kills. We have people who scum read geript. We have a few people who late vote on bats, I think I made good cases on dam and SL I have been pressing these people. But after the night kills we get this "ooh Viv is confirmed scum" i am like the only person along with hat who actually tries to question him or even consider the night kills. A lot of people come in and vote afk. They dont even question just attempt buries This isn't true in the slightest. The nightkills are not the reason we are lynching Vivax and people scumread him before them. | ||
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On January 04 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 03:32 KelsierSC wrote: Also people are completely glossing over how perfectly the night kills incriminate Viv Koshi and Eden were townread by the stark majority of town. I don't see a need for additional reasoning for mafia to shoot them. This. | ||
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On January 04 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 03:44 justanothertownie wrote: How is this so hard to understand? If geript votes batsnacks NOONE will scumread him for that alone because every townie would do exactly that. Stop being dense. The only reason people have this townread on geript is because of his weird vote, which is a shit reason anyway. If you think he votes on bats and doesn't get lynched today I just.. No, I don't think anyone is townreading him for that. It is as null as it gets. | ||
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On January 04 2015 03:47 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 03:44 justanothertownie wrote: How is this so hard to understand? If geript votes batsnacks NOONE will scumread him for that alone because every townie would do exactly that. Stop being dense. If every town votes on bats why is geript being townread for not voting on him? He isn't. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:20 IAmRobik wrote: DrH fell off the map...ifhe thinks this is acceptable - it's not Want to know some other people who fell off the map? Ritoky, GB, geript, Palmar Superbia didn't. He was never on the map to begin with. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:27 IAmRobik wrote: something i forgot to mention - if vivax is scum - marv and i are clear because of his slip on pg 137...or maybe it wasnt a slip and it was just scum coaching in thread nah | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript pretty much gave up right? I had some reservations considering mafia hit both players who had beef with vivax. I'd be happy to vote for sicklucker today This post makes no sense. Why would you vote sicklucker if geript gave up? | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:49 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:27 IAmRobik wrote: something i forgot to mention - if vivax is scum - marv and i are clear because of his slip on pg 137...or maybe it wasnt a slip and it was just scum coaching in thread nah he literally said me and marv make good night kill targets lol Where did he say that? And even if he did that does not mean anything at all. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 04:34 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 02:54 Vivax wrote: On January 04 2015 02:48 Damdred wrote: I do kind of like that point that Vivax is making though, Robik didn't really follow through with what he was talking during the night. Not just that, he scolds me when I'm analysing Eden. On January 03 2015 10:10 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 10:05 Vivax wrote: Kinda bugs me how Eden first scumreads Doc, then scumreads Chyz, then goes on with saying "One or the other is mafia" when they have been in such a clińch. Excluding a bussing here cause of that ragequit from Chyz. But I feel like Eden has been way less vocal about DrH than say TheCyyz. vivax, stop shitposting or you will get lynched per koshi's request He's like SO confident that Eden is town. But going as far as calling it shitposting when I'm just talking about my impressions. He scumreads JAT a little during the day but during the night he completely ignores the argument between us, and D2 he's like 100 % sure I'm the only viable lynch for the day. No questions asked, no comments given. this is describing my town play to a T btw. strong clearing people i think are town and leading conversation away from them because its useless and i will not let them get lynched...also, while you may think im dumb and ballsy, i dont spend my last 4 posts talking about how im going to kill eden for making good posts and then kill him. This is wifom, don't do that. its a bit wifomy, but it is true, so why cant i use that to towns advantage. also, do you or do you not agree with me that town is more likely to be posting come phase shift than scum, given that it was late arriving and scum are probably waitingfor flips to see if they hit roles and so they wouldnt tallk/slip about their night kill I do not agree. Complete bullshit and the fact that you are the one bringing it up invalidates your whole argument. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:54 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 03 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote: On checkin Eden's filter I get the feeling he didn't even have scumreads as of late, while Koshi clearly had a few. I'm sorry for him (and for myself) that he's so bad at reading me, but I wouldn't discard his other reads as potential NK magnets. On January 03 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote: I don't know how much I'll be around today. I think lynching Vivax is a fine idea. See you later guys. lol here I don't see anything interesting here. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:54 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 04:52 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 04:34 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 02:54 Vivax wrote: On January 04 2015 02:48 Damdred wrote: I do kind of like that point that Vivax is making though, Robik didn't really follow through with what he was talking during the night. Not just that, he scolds me when I'm analysing Eden. On January 03 2015 10:10 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 10:05 Vivax wrote: Kinda bugs me how Eden first scumreads Doc, then scumreads Chyz, then goes on with saying "One or the other is mafia" when they have been in such a clińch. Excluding a bussing here cause of that ragequit from Chyz. But I feel like Eden has been way less vocal about DrH than say TheCyyz. vivax, stop shitposting or you will get lynched per koshi's request He's like SO confident that Eden is town. But going as far as calling it shitposting when I'm just talking about my impressions. He scumreads JAT a little during the day but during the night he completely ignores the argument between us, and D2 he's like 100 % sure I'm the only viable lynch for the day. No questions asked, no comments given. this is describing my town play to a T btw. strong clearing people i think are town and leading conversation away from them because its useless and i will not let them get lynched...also, while you may think im dumb and ballsy, i dont spend my last 4 posts talking about how im going to kill eden for making good posts and then kill him. This is wifom, don't do that. its a bit wifomy, but it is true, so why cant i use that to towns advantage. also, do you or do you not agree with me that town is more likely to be posting come phase shift than scum, given that it was late arriving and scum are probably waitingfor flips to see if they hit roles and so they wouldnt tallk/slip about their night kill I do not agree. Complete bullshit and the fact that you are the one bringing it up invalidates your whole argument. i brought it up at EON Exactly. Which invalidates it completely even if it wasn't horseshit to begin with. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:54 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote: On checkin Eden's filter I get the feeling he didn't even have scumreads as of late, while Koshi clearly had a few. I'm sorry for him (and for myself) that he's so bad at reading me, but I wouldn't discard his other reads as potential NK magnets. On January 03 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote: I don't know how much I'll be around today. I think lynching Vivax is a fine idea. See you later guys. lol here I don't see anything interesting here. he says we are good nk magnets are you blind? You are reaching sooo hard. | ||
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On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable. ##Unvote Vivax ##Vote Superbia I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch. That's weird considering your vote is not on geript. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:01 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:54 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote: On checkin Eden's filter I get the feeling he didn't even have scumreads as of late, while Koshi clearly had a few. I'm sorry for him (and for myself) that he's so bad at reading me, but I wouldn't discard his other reads as potential NK magnets. On January 03 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote: I don't know how much I'll be around today. I think lynching Vivax is a fine idea. See you later guys. lol here I don't see anything interesting here. he says we are good nk magnets are you blind? You are reaching sooo hard. i didnt type it...he did Robik, stop trying to clear yourself for things that are pure WIFOM if they even exist and do something useful. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable. ##Unvote Vivax ##Vote Superbia I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch. That's weird considering your vote is not on geript. marv and Palmar are both on Vivax, whom I also enjoy a lynch on. You think I can convince marv and Palmar to do anything? Ever? This means you think Palmar and marv are both town, correct? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:04 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:01 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:54 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote: On checkin Eden's filter I get the feeling he didn't even have scumreads as of late, while Koshi clearly had a few. I'm sorry for him (and for myself) that he's so bad at reading me, but I wouldn't discard his other reads as potential NK magnets. On January 03 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote: I don't know how much I'll be around today. I think lynching Vivax is a fine idea. See you later guys. lol here I don't see anything interesting here. he says we are good nk magnets are you blind? You are reaching sooo hard. i didnt type it...he did Robik, stop trying to clear yourself for things that are pure WIFOM if they even exist and do something useful. what am i doing thats notuseful? am i not analyzing the game? like you guys are shitters if you think im not playing this game. Calling me a shitter isn't useful, does not improve your argument and most certainly does not make me think you are town. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:04 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:01 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:58 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 04:55 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:54 IAmRobik wrote: On January 03 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote: On checkin Eden's filter I get the feeling he didn't even have scumreads as of late, while Koshi clearly had a few. I'm sorry for him (and for myself) that he's so bad at reading me, but I wouldn't discard his other reads as potential NK magnets. On January 03 2015 22:16 Palmar wrote: I don't know how much I'll be around today. I think lynching Vivax is a fine idea. See you later guys. lol here I don't see anything interesting here. he says we are good nk magnets are you blind? You are reaching sooo hard. i didnt type it...he did Robik, stop trying to clear yourself for things that are pure WIFOM if they even exist and do something useful. how is vivax saying "mafia should kill marv and robik" pure wifom? He does not say that and even if he did it doesn't mean anything. Stop it. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:04 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 05:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable. ##Unvote Vivax ##Vote Superbia I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch. That's weird considering your vote is not on geript. marv and Palmar are both on Vivax, whom I also enjoy a lynch on. You think I can convince marv and Palmar to do anything? Ever? This means you think Palmar and marv are both town, correct? No it means I think they're both influential and neither of them listen to a word I say ever. So what you are saying is that if they are scum you basically concede instantly? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:06 Damdred wrote: On January 04 2015 05:01 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 05:00 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 04:59 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 03:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable. ##Unvote Vivax ##Vote Superbia I sorta like this too. But honestly the thought of lynching anyone but geript makes my ass twitch. That's weird considering your vote is not on geript. marv and Palmar are both on Vivax, whom I also enjoy a lynch on. You think I can convince marv and Palmar to do anything? Ever? This is a lame excuse there are more than just marv and palmar in the thread doing things So? I have a townread on marv and he's voting for Vivax, whom I find suspicious. Who cares who else is in here doing things? Ok, can you elaborate on that marv lynch instead? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:10 IAmRobik wrote: jat is playing like shit...its so silly that he thinks hes playing well Very helpful, Robik. Very helpful. I never said I am playing well. But I know that you aren't and that is concerning. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:11 justanothertownie wrote: If you are agreeing with the things he says why are you threatening me with a rope? Because you're putting words in my mouth repeatedly, like fucking mafia. I don't care what my read of you is, if you're doing mafia things that favor mafia in a mafia way I'M GONNA FUCKING LYNCH YOU LIKE MAFIA JAT cute | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:15 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:13 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:10 IAmRobik wrote: jat is playing like shit...its so silly that he thinks hes playing well Very helpful, Robik. Very helpful. I never said I am playing well. But I know that you aren't and that is concerning. at least im giving my reads and not asking useless questions like you did with eden. The question wasn't useless at all. It finally made me townread him. Don't shit on my play if you don't understand what I am doing. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:18 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:15 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 05:13 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:10 IAmRobik wrote: jat is playing like shit...its so silly that he thinks hes playing well Very helpful, Robik. Very helpful. I never said I am playing well. But I know that you aren't and that is concerning. at least im giving my reads and not asking useless questions like you did with eden. The question wasn't useless at all. It finally made me townread him. Don't shit on my play if you don't understand what I am doing. he was so painfully obvious town...i cant believe it was even necessary to waste the time asking. whatever hes dead now and we move on Well, I wasn't the one bringing it up. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:18 Vivax wrote: My point is you're not interested in the slightest in figuring JAT or me out, you didn't talk about us during the night when we were fighting. You come back D1 instavoting me, and now you suddenly say for yourself that JAT isn't playing as good as he thinks, which means you agree with me and leaves me wondering why you instavoted me before going through all our shit and giving your opinion on it when the topic was still hot and malleable. Which means, you mafia. It does not mean he agrees with you (assuming you think I am scum) because if he says I am not playing as well as I think then that implies THAT I AM TOWN. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:23 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:18 Vivax wrote: My point is you're not interested in the slightest in figuring JAT or me out, you didn't talk about us during the night when we were fighting. You come back D1 instavoting me, and now you suddenly say for yourself that JAT isn't playing as good as he thinks, which means you agree with me and leaves me wondering why you instavoted me before going through all our shit and giving your opinion on it when the topic was still hot and malleable. Which means, you mafia. It does not mean he agrees with you (assuming you think I am scum) because if he says I am not playing as well as I think then that implies THAT I AM TOWN. I don't see an instance in Robik's filter where he thinks you're town. No shit. But read the post in question and then tell me again that Robik writes this if he thinks I am mafia. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote: On January 04 2015 05:19 IAmRobik wrote: still not a question Why not talk about JAT D1 when you felt he was scummy? Why join his wagon last-minute-vote-mafia-wifom-style when you thought he was scummy? Why are you trying to misrepresent the stuff I said about Koshi's reads as a slip? Why not chime in when me and JAT are fighting and we're supposed to be your suspicious guys? 4) i called outa lotof people and i had my own agenda that i was tryijg to get through. i didnt even notice you two girls squabbling Bullshit. rofl | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:27 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:24 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:23 Vivax wrote: On January 04 2015 05:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:18 Vivax wrote: My point is you're not interested in the slightest in figuring JAT or me out, you didn't talk about us during the night when we were fighting. You come back D1 instavoting me, and now you suddenly say for yourself that JAT isn't playing as good as he thinks, which means you agree with me and leaves me wondering why you instavoted me before going through all our shit and giving your opinion on it when the topic was still hot and malleable. Which means, you mafia. It does not mean he agrees with you (assuming you think I am scum) because if he says I am not playing as well as I think then that implies THAT I AM TOWN. I don't see an instance in Robik's filter where he thinks you're town. No shit. But read the post in question and then tell me again that Robik writes this if he thinks I am mafia. So you're saying he slipped that he knows that you're town by writing that? I don't see you scream mafia mafia lying scum yet. I said Robik could be mafia all day man. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:31 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:30 Vivax wrote: On January 04 2015 05:25 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote: On January 04 2015 05:19 IAmRobik wrote: still not a question Why not talk about JAT D1 when you felt he was scummy? Why join his wagon last-minute-vote-mafia-wifom-style when you thought he was scummy? Why are you trying to misrepresent the stuff I said about Koshi's reads as a slip? Why not chime in when me and JAT are fighting and we're supposed to be your suspicious guys? 1) i did talk about jat d1 and n1 specifically in regards to my "involvment" in the bats lymch 2) already explained this as well 3) cause you said nk magnets instead of lynch targets 4) i called outa lotof people and i had my own agenda that i was tryijg to get through. i didnt even notice you two girls squabbling What agenda is possibly more important than talking about the guys you suspect before the night and instantly after? i said my top 2 scum pre-nk were ritoky and superbia. my post flip is you, but also think superbia and ritoky are scum. Then why do you suddenly think Vivax is scum? Only because of the nightkills? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:31 Superbia wrote: All right. I'm here and actually have time. Then do stuff. Give reads. Etc. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:36 IAmRobik wrote: i didnt? Then why in the fuck are you constantly attacking me today? Are you stupid? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away. Quick thought list I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page. Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:40 IAmRobik wrote: im telling you that youre playing bad and your constantpressure ofme is out of place especially if yiu think vivaxis scum Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players. | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away. Quick thought list I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page. Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. He did? where? Take a look into his filter and you will find it. Artanis, you around? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Robik is looking pretty bad. Maybe worse than Vivax. Still want to lynch Superbia more because his constant check-ins and then not doing anythings are annoying. Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away. Quick thought list I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page. Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. He did? where? Take a look into his filter and you will find it. Artanis, you around? Hai. On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I find it weird how Palmar/Robik/Vivax all jumped on JAT at pretty much the same time. I have a retarded theory about that that I can only share post-night. Agreed with Marv that especially Vivax' case was reaching. Palmar's feels genuine. I remember him making a post about making no shenannies at night. Unfortunately, I'm a bad boy. Could you explain this now? | ||
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On January 04 2015 05:53 Superbia wrote: Let's start off on the big post by ritoky, and why it's (and by relation, he is) very mafia: Show nested quote + On January 01 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:+ Show Spoiler + finally caught up in the thread, don't have a lot of time because new years is a busy day in the ER; just gonna copy/paste my notes in the thread; sorry i can't be more engaged: note - trying not to null read anyone from this point forward, list everyone as town or scum unless they haven't posted koshi - his wording in certain cases seems like he is trying to appease (i.e. "TheChyz is not scummy to me. I am not saying he is a townread but the case Dr.H. makes is not how I read Chyz." and other cases of not saying people's alignment ex: calling me and drh meh), says needs something new and fresh doesn't make it happen. mafia pile gb - did his "not reading the thread" shtick which he did as town twice before, done nothing else. town pile *geript - start of game was town: jokes, prodding, pushing for answers, calling someone's case horrible. did mafia thing where promised information in terms of meta reads on people, hasn't delivered. dunno why, think this post is super town: "At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see." could be wrong, look into again later. town pile for now* artanis - asking questions, pushing for answers to his questions, him being "torn" about chyz seems a little odd not enough to worry now, but watch to see how that read develops. town pile lazer - says won't lynch drh, then null reads me for essentially the same reason. makes not very much sense. has a torn sentiment on geript like me and skeptical of koshi like me. could be wrong, but read too strange. mafia pile marv - supposedly great town player, managed 2nd page of filter while doing remarkably little. read on me seems lazy and inaccurate. mafia pile ^jat - bleeding town out of every orofice. town pile^ *robik - made it to almost 2 pages of his filter while complaining about not having time to play, could have spent time playing. promises to wreck, worth waiting until tomorrow to see because strong town player. town pile* thechyz - posts seem incredibly honest...can't place finger on it. could be slight donkey, but really seemed concerned about thread direction. snap omgus'd drH, which seems more town responsive in the context. town pile palmar - agree with lots of his reads, don't like excuses. town pile damdred - has a non-lazy meta read on me as opposed to marv. pushing thread in productive direction and correcting others for misrepresenting people's arguments. town pile *batsnacks - someone (look up later) said batsnacks has been playing differently. seems like same town batsnacks to me. could have bad read on him. town pile* SL - bizarre play. seemed to be trying to defuse me and drH arguing early, has weird interaction where he demands i have a read on him, when i don't. formulates a bunch of random thoughts in regards to me not remembering previous game. no idea what he is talking about in the slightest. none of his other reads are formulated in a coherent way, done nothing townie. mafia pile vivax - no post *kels - evolving reads, when i was mafia last game with him had static reads that didn't change much of the game, currently his reads seem more fluid, probably town or got better at mafia. this was the guy who said bats playing differently, watch that read. town pile* ritoky - town jesus drH - guy contradicting himself all over the place. stupid policy crap, doesn't follow through. forgotten about it entirely at this point. no idea what he is doing. dumpster case on chyz, pot calling kettle black. calling out for hypocrisy not because he is actually scum. has largest filter, probably town unfortunately. is most likely donkey, be wary of his reads they may be bad. town pile eden - town town town. giving reads unprovoked, not folding when pressured, commenting when unsolicited. seems invested in reads makes very good point about the timing of chyz's post and people exploiting it to get a read on chyz even though the situation had kinda already defused itself. town pile *rebirth - "i'm here guys! notice me senpai!" into nothing. scum pile for now* superbia - no post Post comes in half-way through the day and he feels confident enough placing everyone in either a mafia or a town pile. Notice how there is literally no town-paranoia whatsoever in this post. This fucking screams TMI/mafia. No, it really doesn't. Ritoky may very well be scum but not for this. Try harder. How about some opinions on the people who have been discussed today? | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:03 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Robik is looking pretty bad. Maybe worse than Vivax. Still want to lynch Superbia more because his constant check-ins and then not doing anythings are annoying. On January 04 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred. Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong. Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads? So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote: I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away. Quick thought list I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page. Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either. Not too impressive imo. BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum! Vivax called damdred town very recently actually. He did? where? Take a look into his filter and you will find it. Artanis, you around? Hai. On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I find it weird how Palmar/Robik/Vivax all jumped on JAT at pretty much the same time. I have a retarded theory about that that I can only share post-night. Agreed with Marv that especially Vivax' case was reaching. Palmar's feels genuine. I remember him making a post about making no shenannies at night. Unfortunately, I'm a bad boy. Could you explain this now? Oh right. I figured that there might be scum in there trying to incriminate you long enough for a medic to decide not to heal you that night so they could shoot you. Guess I was wrong since 2 people died and none of them were you. lol, ok | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:06 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:43 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:40 IAmRobik wrote: im telling you that youre playing bad and your constantpressure ofme is out of place especially if yiu think vivaxis scum Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players. let's start with: what reads of mine do you disagree with? Give me a summary and I will say so. My problem with you so far is that you aren't doing town Robik stuff and until very recently it looked like you still scumread me. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Speak of the devil. Why are you bringing that up now? It's been 2 days and he explained it by saying he forced himself to choose between a town/scum read. I think it's a shit explanation but I don't think that makes him very mafia. Don't care about his explanation, I'm expecting the post to have some sort of paranoia in it, especially if you're forcing yourself to choose. I bring it up now because I only have time to elaborate on it now (admittedly, I had some time last night, but decided to afk out the night instead). I think it could maybe be helpful if you made a list or something like that. I won't be scumreading you for making the list itself I promise. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote: Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting. Can you elaborate on that? I will. Let him post some more. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:14 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:08 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 06:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 04 2015 05:43 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 05:40 IAmRobik wrote: im telling you that youre playing bad and your constantpressure ofme is out of place especially if yiu think vivaxis scum Yeah, and it isn't helping anybody if you are town. The only way you make me back off is by giving decent reads on other players. let's start with: what reads of mine do you disagree with? Give me a summary and I will say so. My problem with you so far is that you aren't doing town Robik stuff and until very recently it looked like you still scumread me. if vivax is town, that becomes a very likely scenario. my reads are something along the lines of: me town artanis town marv probably town superbia maf ritoky maf vivax maf drh was town but fell off today -- explained by work, but whatever. We'll see what he comes up with in following days. that's about where i'm at. Eden was quite obviously my biggest town read yesterday, followed closely by DrH. DrH is probably still town, but like, it's annoying that he has fallen off so hard. I did my standard town!robik stuff in defending them adamantly against all stupid questions and pushes. I found Koshi weird yesterday. I thought he came out too hard after the bats lynch, but i guess I was wrong on that. I don't knoow how hard I pushed against vivax d1, but I definitely read him as scummier than most. I'd have to go through the rest of the filter and the rest of the player list. Oh, there's plmammmmar, who i was claling scummy too. he made 1 fucking post and everyone splooged over it and i thoought it was a gross overreaction to his one post. Explain the marv read and the Vivax read please. I still have no idea why you think he is scum besides that Koshi thought so. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:16 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:14 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 06:12 Superbia wrote: On January 04 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Speak of the devil. Why are you bringing that up now? It's been 2 days and he explained it by saying he forced himself to choose between a town/scum read. I think it's a shit explanation but I don't think that makes him very mafia. Don't care about his explanation, I'm expecting the post to have some sort of paranoia in it, especially if you're forcing yourself to choose. I bring it up now because I only have time to elaborate on it now (admittedly, I had some time last night, but decided to afk out the night instead). I think it could maybe be helpful if you made a list or something like that. I won't be scumreading you for making the list itself I promise. I only have a read on like 2 people. Then read some filters and get more. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:20 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 06:17 Superbia wrote: On January 04 2015 06:15 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote: Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik? Because you didn't do shit the entirety of phase 1, is my guess. It's why I wanted to lynch you today yesterday. Does that make me mafia? Am I talking about voting for you today? I was fucking asking Robik to begin with. Unwarranted. Marv, could you summarize your reads for me? I don't get the feeling that you are really trying to figure anyone out tbh. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote: From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax. Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:29 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote: Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting. what's that? Let us hear some more of his reads first. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 06:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote: On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote: From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax. Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken. So now it's your turn...why are my reads off? Why do you think I'm not trying this game? Maybe I'm not as verbose or articulate, but I don't think I ever am really. I wasn't confident d1 based off of NYE and not being able to participate really, but I was around enough to actually make a vote that could possibly matter. In fact, I think the reasoning that I gave for sheeping you wasn't all that bad either. I guess your reads aren't the worst but they aren't many either. Meh. | ||
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On January 04 2015 07:50 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 07:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When 6 people vote immediately I tend to think "confident" "hes town cause he already has this read" Scum feel the need to say hey wait a minute guys....we all know there is a lot of time left today. Many other things are being discussed. Who is in a huff about an afk lynch? The least active people in this thread are all people not voting for vivax lol I disagree with this pretty much entirely. Piling up votes on someone minutes into a day favor mafia especially, they can hide their votes without participating it gives town the incentive to not really look at anything else that is going on, (lazy aspect of town) this leads to complacency. we probably will disagree with each other, but an afk lynch is a bad lynch 100% of the time. How is it an afk lynch though? Not that this argument impresses me in any way. On January 04 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote: His eod vote. If gerits town robiks 100% town no reason to make that switch in a two town race bad players see that as scummy . Even if gerits not town its not that likely robik would throw in that preemptive vote to keep his partner from getting hammered because no one wanted to change at the time but it is possible just alot less likely. Robik can be confirmed with a gerit flip so we never kill robik before him anyway. Marv was the first to defend me so I give him mad town points hes been pretty useful regardless of his filter size. The one problem I have with him is I feel him and palmer are always mafia together and palmers looking like shit. Nothing in this post makes any fucking sense. If geript is town Robik is most certainly not 100 % town. What is this retarded logic. Robik is not confirmed regardless of geripts flip. Marv was not very useful at all and there is no reason why Palmar and Marv should be tied together. On January 04 2015 07:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript - Vivax sicklucker damdred - glowingbear Is my best guess atm. Sorted by confidence of read in tiers So Robik is town? | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I could list plenty of people I'm unsure of. If you want my town reads its you, marv, artanis. Sicklucker forgot about geript again now that the heat is on his other teammate Why are you so sure about marv? | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote: Well I dont think it clears jat actually. He could just be setting up the next mislynch so no. He honestly didnt give it much effort it was eden and others that lead bats to getting kill. He kind of just had a thowaway vote on bats seeing what sticks which makes him pretty scummy if gerit is. And the fact he doesint want to see a gerit flip lol If I am not starting this batsnacks wagon he is NEVER going to be lynched. Never. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote: Well I dont think it clears jat actually. He could just be setting up the next mislynch so no. He honestly didnt give it much effort it was eden and others that lead bats to getting kill. He kind of just had a thowaway vote on bats seeing what sticks which makes him pretty scummy if gerit is. And the fact he doesint want to see a gerit flip What? JAT set up the lynch on Bats. JAT made it happen. JAT and no one else. He earned that townie lynch with blood, sweat and tears and he deserves the credit. amen | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote: Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns? i'm not sure exactly what you mean? I will translate for you: "Why don't jat and dandred want to use retarded logic to say that people are 100 % town when they clearly aren't?" | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote: like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread? This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:15 geript wrote: Gotta pay the drive home. The Eden kill means there's a vet mafia. Vivax doesn't count. He's been around for a while but no reason to not go for 2 get NK as (if he's the only one) vivax has no thread pull. When there are unexpected NKs there's a reason for it. Eden being (universally) townread doesn't explain it best option is that both were medic dodges. It suggests that the NK plan for tonight is JAT plus get or double vet. Likely the former. Maybe a blue snipe though. Didn't you say Koshi was the most obvious medic save earlier? How is he a medic dodge now? | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:16 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote: On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote: Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns? i'm not sure exactly what you mean? I will translate for you: "Why don't jat and dandred want to use retarded logic to say that people are 100 % town when they clearly aren't?" They dont have to agree 100%. But if there town like artanis they should realize it at least makes him likely town but you dispute even that and call me an idiot I will call you and idiot when you do idiotic things dude. That's life. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote: Ty for confirming marv as town. Ready for me to call you an idiot again? | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:26 ritoky wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote: On January 04 2015 08:18 ritoky wrote: marv is still mafia too, his reads are really lazy and stale. still think it's: SL marv vivax vivax because that post by koshi on sequencing is really good, altho when i looked in the vote thread i had some hesitations. maybe i will uncover more as i catch up Why are you bein so lazy ritoky? You did no vote analysis on what happened yesterday and no thought process sabout whats going on now? You said SL is mafia but you have vivax down but you vote SL over vivax who is the vote leader? Shouldn't you be happy with whats going on? What are you doing? i am like 50 pages behind; and i think someone is confirmed mafia and want to lynch him because it is plain as day and every1 has the wool over their eyes. i am less sure on vivax, plus marv is voting on him and marv is mafia. so just lynch SL who is 99% mafia first. voting analysis is hard when there's 1 vote. i will post it colored for myself soon when i catch up in the thread. Cool then shut up and catch up. You can contribute then. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:32 DoctorHelvetica wrote: At least vivax is trying? Wtffff what does that matter if your scumread on him is real. Gee. You think maybe a scum with 6 votes on him.might consider trying something. Also Vivax got strangely quiet since people started questioning others. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: List of people I would lynch today if I had enough lynches: Superbia Vivax Geript Robik Maybe GlowingBear too. He's been mentioned a few times as well but no one's actually bothered to check into him as far as I can see. Not the worst lynch in my eyes. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:51 sicklucker wrote: Scummy super gb ritoky dandred vivax/gerit Then when mafia doesint kill palmer or jat we can kill them because their probably mafia if their not night killed by then. I dont really want to lynch between gerit and vivax because I highly doubt their both mafia so that gives us a 50% chance of a mislynch. If we lynch someone like gb or ritoky I feel thats a much higher percentage kill and there also not contributing. Does this not make sense? I would like responses. And marv is not mafia if he isn't nightkilled by then, hm? | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote: On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote: SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote: Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:29 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote: On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote: SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote: Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times. You didn't play in even a single one of my scumgames. I hard carried as town before and I have been NK'd night 1 multiple times. Not that this is in any shape or form relevant to this game. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 10:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 10:29 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote: On January 04 2015 10:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 10:00 sicklucker wrote: On January 04 2015 09:57 Superbia wrote: SL answer the questions please. Im working angles son. and if im right or wrong thinking ofdoing it gerit just claimed mafia like theirs no way around that Geript claimed being a decent human being. I believe his claim. On January 04 2015 10:01 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 04 2015 09:21 geript wrote: Fwiw Artanis, GB has a bunch of random inconsistencies. But for the most part they're actually pretty towny. He's not really a player who would show his balls as mafia and be carefree about what he's posted. He doesn't really even defend against or deflect from his inconsistencies. Rather it looks more so like he's town from the attitude of how he comments toward JAT in their spats. It actually make me question if JAT isn't just being the high posting scum. It's not like he hasn't done it before. But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. But were you universally townread at that point? No one voiced suspicion on JAT at that point, only I was a bit paranoid. Maybe you're right on GB. I like your point. It's pretty pointy. I don't think I want to lynch you anymore. Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times. You didn't play in even a single one of my scumgames. I hard carried as town before and I have been NK'd night 1 multiple times. Not that this is in any shape or form relevant to this game. OH ITS RELEVANT! ITS RELEVANT JAT!!! :D | ||
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On January 04 2015 23:56 Vivax wrote: However the high volume low content style still bothers me and all the stuff I mentioned still is sound in my memory so on the backburner for now. If you want me to even start reconsidering this lynch you need to stop posting dumb shit like this. Didn't you say yourself that I seem to always post like this as town? Then why the fuck is it bothering you. On January 05 2015 00:08 Vivax wrote: Marv might be mafia just based on filter size he should be around 20 at EoD 2. Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 06:01 geript wrote: Meh, whatever Marv. I'm really hungry and don't feel like posting 4 pages on how you're scum. You are. Congrats you got me lynched; well Koshi got me lynched. Here's a tl;dr version that people need to sheep: 1. Read on Robik is fucking terrible. Robik is scum 2. No interactions with Koshi--normally these two are absolutely fucking hilarious to play with 3. Not fun; little to no sarcasm, wit, or fun factor that makes Marv fun to play with 4. Wouldn't read me like he does. He'd be more scared to lynch into me (looking elsewhere first) and less sure on his read on me. 5. Marv wouldn't fear lynch on D1 6. Really fucking terrible list post. @Artanis, Palmer and Doc. Look at Marv. He's not right. Doc get your head screwed on straight and actually think about the game critically. I'm pretty sure your read on Chyz is wrong. Town: Artanis[XP]--Not as active as I'd like. But I'm prettty sure he's town DoctorHelvetica--Way off track Palmar--First time he's read me wrong as town. lolz TheChyz--He's just new. But he's town. Damdred--He's town. But force him to post a bunch tomorrow because he notices some good things here and there justanothertownie sicklucker--I initially had him below this in the unsure pile. But I had a townread on him when I read him before I slept. Cursory view of his meta points towards town; that said, it's not wholly applicable because of different game situations imo. Unsure but active pile: batsnacks--of these two, bat is the most likely to be mafia. KelsierSC--felt towny but i forget why GTFO: RebirthOfLeGenD Superbia Vivax GlowingBear Mafia lean: Eden1892--Went ham but not fully ham. Then drops ham and never goes back to ham land. Really odd start. ritoky -- He townread me at a weird point. His read on Robik was pretty weird. Marv wants to lynch him but doesn't really follow up on it. Koshi --Could be wrong here Mafia: Marvellosity IAmRobik Lazermonkey--From a cursory view of his past 3-4 games Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 14:02 Alakaslam wrote: I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): TheChyz (2): DoctorHelvetica (0): geript (6): marvellosity (0): Lazermonkey (0): IAmRobik (0): sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. Show nested quote + On January 04 2015 14:17 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 13:51 KelsierSC wrote: On January 04 2015 13:23 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 13:12 KelsierSC wrote: geript did you give your thoughts on the people who are potential lynches today/ that feels important to me and I can't remember what you said. oh yeh GB do that too please. Filters exist for a reason brah. give me your thoughts on SL, viv , Dam, Robik ...brah SL who knows. Maybe he's a noob, but there's really not a point in thinking about him unless there's a counter claim or he lives for 2-3 days and there's not a missing NK. Odds are he's actually the cop and is using the role poorly Vivax--The reasons I've seen brought up against him made me think he was worth voting for on D1. His posts haven't inspired me and I haven't seen the unique Vivax perspective that I usually see when he's town; plus his posts have been more logic/reason based which is usually what I see from him as mafia. That's said, DrH's comment summarizing Vivax's play I don't find alignment indicative as he does that as town (not sure if he also does it as mafia). All that said, I haven't really gotten past page 2 on his filter every time I open it because I get bored. Good chance for being scum. Damdred--I thought he was blue and cop by how he's playing. A few points have been made about him that caught my eye because they're things I associate with his mafia play (less active, more passive play, less "in the trenches", etc.). That said, he's made a few good points which I don't think he would if he were town. Maybe I just misread him as blue. I think he's town but I'm less sure than I was yesterday. Robik--I've absolutely hated Robik's D2. It's been pretty bad. He makes no useful points and just posts a bunch of crap. Unfortunately, that's my experience of his town play. He also has a pretty large filter and he's, from my understanding, a renowned pussy when he's mafia (I'm less sure of this honestly). There are a lot of points that vote both ways, but overall I think he's town, but I'd put that just barely. GB--I think this guys's town. I talked with Artanis some about him. Maybe we disagree, but if Vivax is mafia, then GB has a higher percentage of being with him for being too right as he's not a player who in my experience has been reasonably accurate with his reads. VE--Feels very town VE to me. IDK, can't really explain it but I've played with him a bunch. The largest counterpoint to this is that as of late as mafia he's been less active and more lazy aiming more for not being lynched than his previous active scum game. LM--Has an apparent greencheck on him. Worth considering 90% accurate unless SL flips not blue, there's a CC or what not. Marv--I'm guessing is town. I've been super wafflecone on this guy and in writing this, I'm realizing that at least some of my town reads have to be wrong Kels--I thought you were town. But I haven't really played a bunch of games to have a great read on you. Superbia--He's been flat out wrong about my meta from Russian, super inactive and just overall has no care to play. I don't think I've ever really managed to get a read on him and the games I've played with him he's either been super town or managed to get himself lynched at some point. For some reason I think he might be less active as mafia in general but honestly I have no clue how correct that actually is. Palmer--has a history of being scum when I role town. I honestly have never had a good clue as to what his alignment is. He'll bus as mafia; he'll generally be less active as mafia. But this game is in a weird situation (NYE into weekend) that he coudl just be MIA town at points. I just really enjoy his snark and how fun he makes the game. Lynch him later on at some point I think. DrH--None of what he's actually done has been productive. I don't know how honest he's being in his apology. He can be town who's just been overzealous, biased and tunneled or he could be mafia just playing to win. Don't Lynch Pool: Damdred GlowingBear Geript Artanis[XP] Lazermonkey Marvellosity justanothertownie IAmRobik sicklucker VisceraEyes KelsierSC IDK Pool: Palmer Lynch Pool: TheChyz Vivax ritoky DoctorHelvetica Superbia Overall, Kelsier, Damdred, GB, LM and JAT are my weakest Don't Lynch reads. The Lynch pool is essentialy PoE. I still expect at least one Vet to be mafia but as to which one in specific the best bet I think is Palmer. He'd read Eden as town; DrH I don't think allows those kills to go through. Not sure why, but they don't quite suit what I've read of his mafia play (I've never seen him as mafia in a large game I've played in). I don't want to hyperbolize this by bolding red but if you look at the parts I marked, don't you see how all of this doesn't seem to make sense? This post is better. Geripts line of thought here makes no sense to me. | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:00 sicklucker wrote: Vivax wtf is wrong with you. Discredit me when im trying to steer the lynch off you. I ask lazermonkey for his reads because their really important to me. Leaning scum on ksc now. He tried to brush off his cc as a joke but it was not. He should think im the cop. I took your claim as a joke too. KSC only played along. This is a really dumb reason to scumread him. | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote: Na in my first game he did the same thing and got the cop killed on day 1. Its what he does, here hes lieing about it tho so hes probable mafia. When his scum read claims cop he doesint believe it and he counter claims theres legit meta here. Ill reread it but it looked pretty legit at the time. Yeah, but he was town in that game, wasn't he? So what is the point? | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:08 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 01:04 KelsierSC wrote: On January 05 2015 01:00 sicklucker wrote: Vivax wtf is wrong with you. Discredit me when im trying to steer the lynch off you. I ask lazermonkey for his reads because their really important to me. Leaning scum on ksc now. He tried to brush off his cc as a joke but it was not. He should think im the cop. Yeh you don't believe what you are saying. If he thinks your scum he can give his read , what is wrong with that If hes town and hes losing a vote like 10-2 and im trying to get votes on the other guy how am I not town from his pov? Its very suspicious so yes I can believe what im saying and you should too. How is it suspicious? Do you think that's a good strat as scum? You are making 0 sense yet again. | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:11 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 01:07 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote: Na in my first game he did the same thing and got the cop killed on day 1. Its what he does, here hes lieing about it tho so hes probable mafia. When his scum read claims cop he doesint believe it and he counter claims theres legit meta here. Ill reread it but it looked pretty legit at the time. Yeah, but he was town in that game, wasn't he? So what is the point? hes denying that he did it? Its in his playbook So what? | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:13 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 01:11 sicklucker wrote: On January 05 2015 01:07 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 01:06 sicklucker wrote: Na in my first game he did the same thing and got the cop killed on day 1. Its what he does, here hes lieing about it tho so hes probable mafia. When his scum read claims cop he doesint believe it and he counter claims theres legit meta here. Ill reread it but it looked pretty legit at the time. Yeah, but he was town in that game, wasn't he? So what is the point? hes denying that he did it? Its in his playbook I did it once and the circumstances were totally different. I didn't take your claim seriously at all I think that is pretty clear. Is your claim actually real? I think there is no point in discussing this. | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:27 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 01:00 sicklucker wrote: Vivax wtf is wrong with you. Discredit me when im trying to steer the lynch off you. I ask lazermonkey for his reads because their really important to me. Leaning scum on ksc now. He tried to brush off his cc as a joke but it was not. He should think im the cop. Are you the cop or not. That's the relevant question to me right now as geript immediately took your claim at face value even though you aren't really clear about it. It's time to get clear and I don't know how I'm discrediting you: Cause I don't know if I should take you seriously? If you are town you will ignore this for now. | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:31 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 01:29 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 01:27 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 01:00 sicklucker wrote: Vivax wtf is wrong with you. Discredit me when im trying to steer the lynch off you. I ask lazermonkey for his reads because their really important to me. Leaning scum on ksc now. He tried to brush off his cc as a joke but it was not. He should think im the cop. Are you the cop or not. That's the relevant question to me right now as geript immediately took your claim at face value even though you aren't really clear about it. It's time to get clear and I don't know how I'm discrediting you: Cause I don't know if I should take you seriously? If you are town you will ignore this for now. No it's relevant cause he says I'm trying to discredit him which isn't true, I want to know if he's bullshitting and that also has relevance for my LM read. Unless he is your absolute #1 lynch for today it is not relevant. And even then I say ignore it for now. | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:33 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 01:20 KelsierSC wrote: For clarity. You claimed I though it was a joke. Then you didn't actually rescend your claim so I asked you questions. At which point you said just forget about all the cop stuff guys which again made me think it was just a joke. I cant believe you believe what you are saying when? I differently never thought that because I know what I thought. I might have asked questions to help me figure out my next course I agree with dandred but ill hard claim but I kinda already thought I did Let me correct it for you 1) you claimed 2) Kelsier thought it was a joke. Everything clear now? | ||
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On January 05 2015 01:34 Vivax wrote: And btw it's a good argument for VE. I also noticed he's basing his scumread on me only on the D1 play, at least that's what he said when I asked him. But we can't lynch multiple people at once, and need to get this sorted out. Call me biased but I'd prefer geript first as his read change on TheChyz makes absolutely zero sense plus the other stuff, and Robik did a last minute vote on D1 to lynch bats. Of course this doesn't mean we bury the stuff you just wrote about VE. So in summary need to know where everyone stands with geript vs VE vs me vs LM vs superbia? LM is not up for lynch today for obvious reasons. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I don't want to lynch vivax either, and Superbia started playing at least a little bit. I think I favour a Geript lynch at this point unless he can explain why he switched his read on Chyz. Not sure about Vivax but I think I would lynch geript and him over Superbia. I see no reason to limit our options this early though. It is a shamefuly display how few people are playing this game today and it makes me feel uneasy. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:40 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi, Chyz is a really bad lynch. Wasting a kill on someone who likely could be modkilled in the near future isn't good in any way. I kinda agree. Slam also already made a post about him indicating this. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I'm pretty happy with a Geript lynch though. The two main reasons I like him as town were his play on the end of D1 looking quite townie and his explanation on D2 about a few of my suspects, as well as his suspicions of JAT. However, when combining those two I am left with the option of Geript playing like he did at night because he expected me to perceive it that way. If so, it's also easy for him to think up these answers to my questions if he's scum. That, as well as his complacency earlier in on D1 and the Chyz thing makes me ok with a Geript lynch. What makes me hesitant is that I just don't really see geript giving up like that as scum while as town he might believe in some retarded logic where him dieing somehow makes sense. In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. On the other I don't get how someone who is being shadowed would play this way anyways. The same applies to GB. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: VE, how about you just start playing in earnest if you are town? This is just awful. I am playing? Vivax D1 looks like shit and do dies geript. I'm perfectly willing to lynch either one. Geript not being in here doing anything looks even worse for him. What I'm particular is"awful" to you about my play JAT? The fact that you repeatedly put words in my mouth our the fact that you make unsubstantiated criticisms of my play? Which of those things makes my play bad? You not giving a shit or doing anything makes your play bad. Nothing to do with me. I remember you replacing in Werewolf as town (a game that was basically lost for town at that point in time). Your play there was really great and nothing like this. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:53 Vivax wrote: His questioning of Robik gave me pause but I don't see him act up on it in any way, he questioned him a bit and that's it, li I'm still considering him to be possible scum for aforementioned reasons. I'm not gonna change that opinion just cause almost nobody else wants to lynch him. He's still just background noise in my opinion as he isn't trying to steer thread opinion while town heads for my lynch and I'm doing my best to avoid that by lynching lying scum geript. You are either the most boneheaded idiot ever or scum. Seriously. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:54 Vivax wrote: NInjad again. Talk of the devil. Anyway it doesn't sit right with me how JAT just skips over the arguments I found on geript, and how he questions Robik but doesn't really seem suspicious of him in his play afterwards. Questioning for the sake of questioning, more like. How did I skip over your arguments? I even said I liked them. | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch. If you say so it has to be true I guess. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch. Yup. Geript argument: Artanis? Convinced. Kelsier? Convinced. Me? Convinced. etc. You? "I liked it but I don't think it makes him scum he plays like shit but I think he's town but I'm not trying to clear him in any way" Either you think the argument is good and that he's scum or you think he's town and try to clear him by making your opinion clear in the thread and why I'm a better lynch than him but talking like this just makes you look worse. It does not make me look worse at all and I would encourage you to stop talking about me if you want me to work with you in case you are town. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:03 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch. If you say so it has to be true I guess. Sarcasm, the sanctuary of the weak minded. I knew what you are doing. You are trying to save both Vivax AND geript and get town to lynch me. Because you are mafia with them. Yeah, Vivax and JAT obvious mafia team. VE solved the game guys. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote: What I am also wondering is why geript tried to make Dr. H tilt yesterday. Is he just genuinely acting like an arrogant prick as town or is he trying to make a townie ragequit on purpose? He was being hilarious. Geript's the second funniest player in the game and it makes me sad that he'll be leaving us shortly. He isn't even capable of being hilarious. At least not voluntarily. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:12 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:08 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:02 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 04:56 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 04:53 justanothertownie wrote: Not to mention that you should evaluate more than just the day1 play of geript and vivax. Geript play has not improved. You are trying to clear him based on shitty aloof meta and it's hella suspicious. I xoncede that Vivax looks better this phase. I am not trying to clear geript at all. What I just mentioned is the only reason I am not voting him right now. I think his play is shithouse and the development of his reads makes no sense in the slightest. But what you just mentioned "makes" him town to you, in explaining that read you are speaking against a geript lynch. Yup. Geript argument: Artanis? Convinced. Kelsier? Convinced. Me? Convinced. etc. You? "I liked it but I don't think it makes him scum he plays like shit but I think he's town but I'm not trying to clear him in any way" Either you think the argument is good and that he's scum or you think he's town and try to clear him by making your opinion clear in the thread and why I'm a better lynch than him but talking like this just makes you look worse. It does not make me look worse at all and I would encourage you to stop talking about me if you want me to work with you in case you are town. What is this? I see reasons for you to be scum and your response to it is that you threaten me to "not work with me" if I don't unscumread you? So far when I've discussed why I thought you were scum all I got back were witty remarks how I'm scum for not townreading you like 90 % of the people, and now that you sit idle on my wagon fighting against a switch to geript you talk to me like you don't think I'm scum. I am not as sure anymore about you and even if I were I could be wrong. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:10 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 05:06 justanothertownie wrote: What I am also wondering is why geript tried to make Dr. H tilt yesterday. Is he just genuinely acting like an arrogant prick as town or is he trying to make a townie ragequit on purpose? He was being hilarious. Geript's the second funniest player in the game and it makes me sad that he'll be leaving us shortly. He isn't even capable of being hilarious. At least not voluntarily. This read is so wrong I'm considering lynching you for it. :D | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote: So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I think it is pretty clear what he is talking about. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:19 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote: So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I think it is pretty clear what he is talking about. Yes he's saying I'm trying to lynch unlynchable townies as an argument for me being scum when a quick look at the votecount should tell him that I'm trying to lynch geript since nobody will vote for you today anyway. He says: "Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies". There is nothing wrong with this statement. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:20 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:19 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote: So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I think it is pretty clear what he is talking about. Yes he's saying I'm trying to lynch unlynchable townies as an argument for me being scum when a quick look at the votecount should tell him that I'm trying to lynch geript since nobody will vote for you today anyway. He says: "Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies". There is nothing wrong with this statement. I don't really know what you're doing this game. It's like all you're doing is constantly masturbating on how townie you claim you look instead of trying to lynch scum. You drag me into these useless discussions in an attempt to ridicule me for suspecting you all the time. As I said, you're not playing mafia, you're simulating a chat session. If you really want to make yourself useful then start posting actual arguments for which lynch is better to pick. I drag YOU into the discussions? hahahaha Stop making idiotic reads on me and we don't have to discuss them. You know that I will never be lynched. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote: So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I agree with you on geript but lets face it, the time you've spent on pushing geript is very negligibel if we compare it to marv/jat/DH. Marv is unlynchable? Certainly not. The more time he just avoids doing anything the more I think he is scum. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:26 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:24 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:22 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:20 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:19 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote: So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I think it is pretty clear what he is talking about. Yes he's saying I'm trying to lynch unlynchable townies as an argument for me being scum when a quick look at the votecount should tell him that I'm trying to lynch geript since nobody will vote for you today anyway. He says: "Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies". There is nothing wrong with this statement. I don't really know what you're doing this game. It's like all you're doing is constantly masturbating on how townie you claim you look instead of trying to lynch scum. You drag me into these useless discussions in an attempt to ridicule me for suspecting you all the time. As I said, you're not playing mafia, you're simulating a chat session. If you really want to make yourself useful then start posting actual arguments for which lynch is better to pick. I drag YOU into the discussions? hahahaha Stop making idiotic reads on me and we don't have to discuss them. You know that I will never be lynched. Pretty much. I replied to Lazer about something that didn't seem right to me and you led the discussion back to yourself without even spending a single thought to analysing what he just said. Most recent example is the easiest to see. He was talking about me. I don't have to direct a discussion about your read on me onto me. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:29 Lazermonkey wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:24 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 05:21 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 05 2015 05:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 05:15 Lazermonkey wrote: So why is everyone suddenly hesitant about the Vivax wagon? I don't see what changed really. Vivax posted alot but he still focuses energy on unlynchable townies and making crazy reads. Geript is an unlynchable townie? Take a seat and tell me that story again please. I agree with you on geript but lets face it, the time you've spent on pushing geript is very negligibel if we compare it to marv/jat/DH. Marv is unlynchable? I do think its highly unlikely that we will be lynching him today, and it was even more unlikely when vivax was pushing marv the hardest. It didn't gain any traction yet Vivax spent super much time attacking marv. I don't remember it this way. In my memory it was marv that attacked vivax. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:38 VisceraEyes wrote: My read on marv is in my filter Artanis. It's weak, but it was a weak read so it's whatev. He's definitely not putting in the effort to display an "unlynchable" badge, that's for sure. I'd hear cases for marv scum before shennannying onto him though. I think someone's got something somewhere... Great. Marvs activity is too low for his towngame. He isn't questioning people like he does usually. He didn't give a shit about the lynch day1 even though he was clearly available since he made a useless comment on something. He also does not seem to give a shit about the lynch today. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote: hihihihihihihi. Am miles behind. Cliff notes? Just read the game dude. Nice timing btw. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:40 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:38 VisceraEyes wrote: My read on marv is in my filter Artanis. It's weak, but it was a weak read so it's whatev. He's definitely not putting in the effort to display an "unlynchable" badge, that's for sure. I'd hear cases for marv scum before shennannying onto him though. I think someone's got something somewhere... Great. Marvs activity is too low for his towngame. He isn't questioning people like he does usually. He didn't give a shit about the lynch day1 even though he was clearly available since he made a useless comment on something. He also does not seem to give a shit about the lynch today. I don't know I'd argue that he tried to get geript lynched D1 right? For marv standards? He did basically nothing to get geript lynched besides putting a vote on him. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Marv loves shenannies though. It would be poetic irony. Good point. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 05:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Marv loves shenannies though. It would be poetic irony. I would sooner poetically lynch Robik, but there's no poetry in lynching him if he's mafia. You make me realize how many people I'd actually like to hang today. It's kind of depressing. We need more nooses. I would actually prefer a few dayvigs. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 05 2015 05:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Marv loves shenannies though. It would be poetic irony. I would sooner poetically lynch Robik, but there's no poetry in lynching him if he's mafia. You make me realize how many people I'd actually like to hang today. It's kind of depressing. We need more nooses. I would actually prefer a few dayvigs. You would just do something exceptionally dumb like shoot me. No. I would probably shoot the likes of ritoky, chyz, GB and Superbia. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:51 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:50 geript wrote: On January 05 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote: On January 04 2015 07:54 geript wrote: On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote: He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him? This is patently untrue. I didn't realize there was a voting thread. If you follow my filter I voted in thread twice for vivax. Just consider my vote in thread the point at which it would've been in placed in the voting thread. Robik looks terrible but he has 11 pages. Him town reading Eden would be consistent with the NK on him if he's mafia. But he's a real pussy as mafia. I haven't read each Vivax post in depth. But from what I've seen today his unique point of view. Rather he's making bad but logical arguments. That's his scum meta where he loses his unique town perspective. Superbia looks just as bad still. His play actually heavily reminds me of DrH in bluelightz where (as mafia) he super raged for catching heat for being inactive and not voting. It's really out of place. I still think Damdred is town, but he 100% is red or blue. ignore me if this was answered after this post, but i still couldn't see why you were voting vivax at that point geript? He was the best lynch on D1. I voted in thread a bit after I read Koshi's read on him. Then again after his second push and Slam's vote count. That reminds me I need to go back and read that section. I've been putting if off b/c I'm lazy. but you were suspicious of koshi at the time?? That is what is putting me off too. Wasn't he in your scumlist, geript? | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vivax was jobbed. I would like to lynch geript today and justanothertownie tomorrow. That's quite the turnaround. Mind elaborating? | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:58 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 05:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Vivax was jobbed. I would like to lynch geript today and justanothertownie tomorrow. That's quite the turnaround. Mind elaborating? Aa far as I see it you lied to Vivax a few pages ago. Was that cleared up? The thing about saying geript is town but that doesnt mean you oppose the lynch I never lied to Vivax and I never said geript is town. Learn to read. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:05 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 05:06 Vivax wrote: You [JAT]? "I liked it [the argument from you on geript ]but I don't think it makes him scum he plays like shit but I think he's town but I'm not trying to clear him in any way" Synopsis of what DrH is alluding to. You can take the reading class together with the doc. Grats. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:08 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. Oh wait some more emphasis I didn't immediately spot. I bolded the part that makes it clear that this is not a townread for your convenience. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:10 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + In general I think his play as town is way more likely to suck like this than as scum. I raise you the part where you directly reference this game. Yeah, so what? I never gave geript a townread and if nothing changes drastically that won't change and you just keep on nitpicking and twisting the things I say which makes you look worse and worse. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Saying well im not trying to clear him could just mean he isnt fully convinced of his own read thinking of it. Bad language, but I second guess myself enough to understand that. I didn't even say that. What Vivax posted is no quote. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Short version "geript in this game is acting like town geript from other games" You would agree with that JAT? Nope. Short version: I generally think geript would play better as scum (I could be wrong) while I know that his play can suck as town. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Short version "geript in this game is acting like town geript from other games" You would agree with that JAT? Nope. Short version: I generally think geript would play better as scum (I could be wrong) while I know that his play can suck as town. How can you tell if he's playing good or bad without knowing what the solution to the game is, it's like saying "if you look scummy I don't lynch you, if you look townie you're playing good and you're more likely to be scum". He has been one of the main wagons both days now. That is pretty awful play regardless of his alignment. And never ever did I say I would not lynch him. I clearly stated that this is the only thing that makes me HESITANT. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:29 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:23 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 06:15 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Short version "geript in this game is acting like town geript from other games" You would agree with that JAT? Nope. Short version: I generally think geript would play better as scum (I could be wrong) while I know that his play can suck as town. How can you tell if he's playing good or bad without knowing what the solution to the game is, it's like saying "if you look scummy I don't lynch you, if you look townie you're playing good and you're more likely to be scum". He has been one of the main wagons both days now. That is pretty awful play regardless of his alignment. And never ever did I say I would not lynch him. I clearly stated that this is the only thing that makes me HESITANT. You say that how he plays doesn't matter for his alignment, but it still makes you hesitant cause earlier you said he would probably play better as scum, which means that earlier you said that how he plays is relevant for his alignment, and now you say that he's playing bad regardless of alignment Full stop. Why would I even respond to this bullshit? I guess I just won't from now on. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:37 Superbia wrote: Fuck this shit. SL softs cop and all of a sudden has to explain nothing? Whatever. CC better come during EoN, don't believe SL. This the second time now that you come in here acting all frustrated for no reason. What's up with that? | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote: it is 100% insane to lynch a cop claim today. do something else superbia. Are you caught up? How much do you still need to read? | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:51 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:37 Superbia wrote: Fuck this shit. SL softs cop and all of a sudden has to explain nothing? Whatever. CC better come during EoN, don't believe SL. This the second time now that you come in here acting all frustrated for no reason. What's up with that? Getting stonewalled by a un-cced cop-soft from someone who is very likely mafia is not frustrating. News to me. Why would an un-cced cop claim frustrate you if you are town? That's the weirdest thing I heard in a while. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:52 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote: it is 100% insane to lynch a cop claim today. do something else superbia. Are you caught up? How much do you still need to read? just started p174 Ok, hurry a little. I will not keep myself awake for much longer. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:54 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:54 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:53 marvellosity wrote: On January 05 2015 06:52 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:41 marvellosity wrote: it is 100% insane to lynch a cop claim today. do something else superbia. Are you caught up? How much do you still need to read? just started p174 Ok, hurry a little. I will not keep myself awake for much longer. reading goes as fast as it goes dear :p >_> | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:51 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 06:48 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 06:42 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote: Ah Robik, can you explain why you put me at the top of your scumlist? I EXPLAINED IT BEFORE. GO FUCKING READ MY FILTER. I LITERALLY EXPLAINED IT TWO SECONDS AFTER YOU ASKED ME THE FIRST TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO FUCKING KEEP REPEATING IT. YOU HAD 2 POSTS ON DAY ONE AND THEY WERE BOTH TRASH AND THEN YOU DISAPPEARED. ME AND EDEN WERE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. So not playing d1 is alignment indicative? Indicative enough for me to be your top-scum? I would like to point you to a game (fanfic crossover) in which I was also unable to play d1 and I ended up being town. Spoiler alert: you did not read me mafia that game even though it's essentially the same situation. You were town that game. What's up with that? Also the all-caps is very convincing. I didn't play d1 and I still had 30x as many posts as you. You didn't play much on N1 either. You should be embarrassed of your performance if you're town. You didn't play d1 that game? Why does that matter? The fact is that you're reading me scum here for a (bad) reason, while you did not read me scum before in another game in a similar situation in which you were town. How do you explain that? Do you think people should townread you? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:00 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 06:58 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 06:51 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 06:48 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 06:42 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 06:38 Superbia wrote: Ah Robik, can you explain why you put me at the top of your scumlist? I EXPLAINED IT BEFORE. GO FUCKING READ MY FILTER. I LITERALLY EXPLAINED IT TWO SECONDS AFTER YOU ASKED ME THE FIRST TIME. I'M NOT GOING TO FUCKING KEEP REPEATING IT. YOU HAD 2 POSTS ON DAY ONE AND THEY WERE BOTH TRASH AND THEN YOU DISAPPEARED. ME AND EDEN WERE ON THE SAME WAVELENGTH. So not playing d1 is alignment indicative? Indicative enough for me to be your top-scum? I would like to point you to a game (fanfic crossover) in which I was also unable to play d1 and I ended up being town. Spoiler alert: you did not read me mafia that game even though it's essentially the same situation. You were town that game. What's up with that? Also the all-caps is very convincing. I didn't play d1 and I still had 30x as many posts as you. You didn't play much on N1 either. You should be embarrassed of your performance if you're town. You didn't play d1 that game? Why does that matter? The fact is that you're reading me scum here for a (bad) reason, while you did not read me scum before in another game in a similar situation in which you were town. How do you explain that? Do you think people should townread you? No. I don't think people should have any read on me. That's fair I guess. But you are still a great policy lynch. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:04 marvellosity wrote: vivax every time i read stuff that makes me feel better about you you go and say something like that Imagine how it is for me -.- | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:07 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: Robik, are you still absolutely convinced Vivax is the lynch for today? yeah...i don't want koshi to yell at me in post game. If I had to choose, I'd probably lynch ritoky or superbia though cause I think that Eden's reads were better than Koshi's Why would you sheep koshis reads over Edens then? And what about your own reads? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:09 geript wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:07 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 07:04 marvellosity wrote: vivax every time i read stuff that makes me feel better about you you go and say something like that I'm sure you have a clear picture of what JAT is thinking about the guy he has been sitting on all day long, ie me, and geript. Oh wait, you can't cause he refuses to go in depth about us and it's not worth being called out in your opinion. This is actually a quite worthwhile point. No, it isn't. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:11 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 07:07 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: Robik, are you still absolutely convinced Vivax is the lynch for today? yeah...i don't want koshi to yell at me in post game. If I had to choose, I'd probably lynch ritoky or superbia though cause I think that Eden's reads were better than Koshi's Why would you sheep koshis reads over Edens then? And what about your own reads? I already said that those 3 people were my scum reads d1. dafuq Maybe but this game is not only day1. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:13 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:11 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 07:11 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 07:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 07:07 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: Robik, are you still absolutely convinced Vivax is the lynch for today? yeah...i don't want koshi to yell at me in post game. If I had to choose, I'd probably lynch ritoky or superbia though cause I think that Eden's reads were better than Koshi's Why would you sheep koshis reads over Edens then? And what about your own reads? I already said that those 3 people were my scum reads d1. dafuq Maybe but this game is not only day1. I'm just sheeping reads. WTF. I don't know why I can't just sheep reads all game. Is this try-hard mode or something? Well, like I said you promised us try-hard mode for today. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote: yo. What are we doing? What would you like doing? And why are you parking your vote on the likely modkill/replacement? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote: Did you guys know that Damdred is mafia? No. Did you find out while reading your qt? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Killer evidence there Robik. Just wanted to say I find a scenario where geript is town and vivax is scum highly implausible. Why? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:22 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:20 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote: Did you guys know that Damdred is mafia? No. Did you find out while reading your qt? this guy 4 real? guys? I am totally 4 real. Why is damdred scum in less than 300 words? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:24 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:23 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 07:22 Palmar wrote: On January 05 2015 07:20 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote: Did you guys know that Damdred is mafia? No. Did you find out while reading your qt? this guy 4 real? guys? I am totally 4 real. Why is damdred scum in less than 300 words? I have no clue, but my excuse is that I'm not reading the game. Ah, I see. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I still think chyz is and was scum btw. We'll see since he's probably modkilled tonight. Don't get your hopes up. I think he will probably be replaced instead of a modkill. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:50 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 07:47 Palmar wrote: The mafia team is actually geript damdred glowingbear marv robik So just lynch down this list. Still have to delve into GB, marv is quite possible as he disappeared and talked about irons instead of arguing with me, plus the general low activity today. Robik and geript are intertwined for obvious reasons. I'd replace Damdred with Lazermonkey or JAT. Ritoky I still have to read properly. Also cool you aren't putting me in there. also marv calls him town and therefore confirmed him town. Yup. Regardsless of his alignment actually. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:55 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote: On January 05 2015 07:50 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 07:47 Palmar wrote: The mafia team is actually geript damdred glowingbear marv robik So just lynch down this list. Still have to delve into GB, marv is quite possible as he disappeared and talked about irons instead of arguing with me, plus the general low activity today. Robik and geript are intertwined for obvious reasons. I'd replace Damdred with Lazermonkey or JAT. Ritoky I still have to read properly. Also cool you aren't putting me in there. Lazermonkey is green checked by a cop that hasn't been ccd bro. Even I know that. JAT has 28 pages of filter or something. also marv calls him town and therefore confirmed him town. Do you know the difference between a solid and a gas? High volume, low density, Low volume + high density and all that stuff? Well, JAT is a gas type of player. I'd describe it as a flatulence which is why whenever I described his play I had so many references to faecalia. Don't be fooled by the size of his filter as it still has a very low amount of content. Wow, mad scientific read there. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:08 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 08:08 justanothertownie wrote: Since when do you have a problem with being a dick? I'm actually a nice guy! I don't think you are nice enough not to lynch someone you think is definitely mafia. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:13 Palmar wrote: oh well, I'm going to sleep lynch either geript or marv. I don't wanna wake up to find you guys having gone with a shitty third option. You think Vivax is town now? | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:17 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 07:59 justanothertownie wrote: Did marv just magically disappear without pushing a lynch AGAIN? no i went to iron. hush yourself. Do something then. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote: i'm special. i don't think we should lynch vivax. i'm just browsing through geript and a couple others. I will go to bed very soon. I would really appreciate an opinion until then. ##Vote: geript | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:34 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote: i'm special. i don't think we should lynch vivax. i'm just browsing through geript and a couple others. I will go to bed very soon. I would really appreciate an opinion until then. ##Vote: geript right now i'm looking at geript-GB-ritoky-superbia as targets Ok, so we either lynch geript and finally get rid of the whole discussion about him or we lurker lynch? :/ | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:35 VisceraEyes wrote: GB sounds okay. What's on ur mind with regard to ritoky? Do you think ritoky is town? | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:37 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 08:36 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 08:34 marvellosity wrote: On January 05 2015 08:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 08:28 marvellosity wrote: i'm special. i don't think we should lynch vivax. i'm just browsing through geript and a couple others. I will go to bed very soon. I would really appreciate an opinion until then. ##Vote: geript right now i'm looking at geript-GB-ritoky-superbia as targets Ok, so we either lynch geript and finally get rid of the whole discussion about him or we lurker lynch? :/ you got it babe. I understand that doesn't sound amazingly attractive :p Yeah, it doesn't. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:39 marvellosity wrote: i think I'm ruling out GB for today if it's any consolation It is. I already did that earlier. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 08:36 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 08:35 VisceraEyes wrote: GB sounds okay. What's on ur mind with regard to ritoky? Do you think ritoky is town? I remember getting a townread on him early similar to geript - though ritoky has kinda faded out substantially, I think he's sounded better when he's been here than geript? I haven't filtered him or anything maybe I should. I don't remember him sounding any good tbh. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:48 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 02 2015 07:50 ritoky wrote: robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day. are we to assume that ritoky is content that Robik delivered that today? I don't even know if ritoky can evaluate that considering his activity. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:49 Damdred wrote: Can we please lynch super, I have a real feeling this is scrum. Please trust my gut this isn't town Super, totally different tone and posting. hm... | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:03 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's been pointlessly abrasive and his posts have been pretty poor, he misrepresented Geript and his focus on the cop thing was really bad. You just summed up all the small misrepresentations of what I've done so far into one blatant misrepresentation. What's your goal here? Have you even read my filter? I don't see any misrepresentation here. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:10 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 09:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 09:03 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's been pointlessly abrasive and his posts have been pretty poor, he misrepresented Geript and his focus on the cop thing was really bad. You just summed up all the small misrepresentations of what I've done so far into one blatant misrepresentation. What's your goal here? Have you even read my filter? Which part of my post was a misrepresentation? You have been abrasive for no reason. You have not contributed much to discussion, your meta read on Geript was wrong and you bitched about an uncounterclaimed cop. How was my meta-read on geript wrong? Why don't you start there? I have been abrasive for no reason? I've had plenty of reasons. Not all of them contributing to the game. I bitched about un-cced cop? I said I was salty because SL blatantly avoided my questions (which were insanely good) by claiming cop. Yeah, he's probably dying tomorrow to a CC, but it's still pretty fucking annoying when you've just put energy into the game and the pretty much confirmed mafia you've just caught sneaks his way into the next day. Yeah, because you were obviously about to lead a lynch on him. rofl | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:12 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 09:11 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 09:10 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 09:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 09:03 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's been pointlessly abrasive and his posts have been pretty poor, he misrepresented Geript and his focus on the cop thing was really bad. You just summed up all the small misrepresentations of what I've done so far into one blatant misrepresentation. What's your goal here? Have you even read my filter? Which part of my post was a misrepresentation? You have been abrasive for no reason. You have not contributed much to discussion, your meta read on Geript was wrong and you bitched about an uncounterclaimed cop. How was my meta-read on geript wrong? Why don't you start there? I have been abrasive for no reason? I've had plenty of reasons. Not all of them contributing to the game. I bitched about un-cced cop? I said I was salty because SL blatantly avoided my questions (which were insanely good) by claiming cop. Yeah, he's probably dying tomorrow to a CC, but it's still pretty fucking annoying when you've just put energy into the game and the pretty much confirmed mafia you've just caught sneaks his way into the next day. Yeah, because you were obviously about to lead a lynch on him. rofl What are you talking about, JAT? I have trouble believing that you really believe this crap. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:24 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote: On January 05 2015 09:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 09:10 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 09:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 05 2015 09:03 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: He's been pointlessly abrasive and his posts have been pretty poor, he misrepresented Geript and his focus on the cop thing was really bad. You just summed up all the small misrepresentations of what I've done so far into one blatant misrepresentation. What's your goal here? Have you even read my filter? Which part of my post was a misrepresentation? You have been abrasive for no reason. You have not contributed much to discussion, your meta read on Geript was wrong and you bitched about an uncounterclaimed cop. How was my meta-read on geript wrong? Why don't you start there? I have been abrasive for no reason? I've had plenty of reasons. Not all of them contributing to the game. I bitched about un-cced cop? I said I was salty because SL blatantly avoided my questions (which were insanely good) by claiming cop. Yeah, he's probably dying tomorrow to a CC, but it's still pretty fucking annoying when you've just put energy into the game and the pretty much confirmed mafia you've just caught sneaks his way into the next day. I'll let geript get into the meta read thing because he pointed it out iirc. You've been abrasive in this game despite not contributing anything. Everyone you bitched about had contributed more to the thread than you such as On January 04 2015 06:15 Superbia wrote: Why the fuck am I on top your scum-list, Robik? There's really no reason to be frustrated about stuff like that when you've been afk for the first three days. Do you really think SL would hard claim cop as scum and trade himself for the real cop when he wasn't even in danger? That's almost too dumb to be scum tbh. if you answer anything, answer this. I have no fucking idea. But have you asked yourself why the real cop would claim there? Because I certainly see no world in which the real cop claims there. Doesn't matter. People are idiots all the time. Way more likely that someone does this as town than mafia and even if he is mafia then he is basically already outed now. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:25 Vivax wrote: If we shenannie we shenannie onto Robik, like Palmar wants, and cause of this: Currently rereading geript as I tend to second guess myself as deadline approaches, but the part where he doesn't put Chyz into his PoE no-lynch-pool just looks too bad for my taste. He doesn't argue by scumreading people for reasons, he argues by townreading some with reasons and scumreadin the rest. But he found a reason to townread TheChyz previously and somehow decided to simply not talk about him again and try to put him into the townpile with his former reasoning. Instead he just throws away his opinion of him being town which he had during D1 with no mention why. Palmar explicitly said we should lynch geript or marv. This not the first time you are lying about what he said. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:31 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 09:23 Lazermonkey wrote: Superbia, I'm trying to get through this lynch alive so please stop these crazy posts about SL being scum. Lazermonkey was not my real check. Im 90% sure he ment to post this in scum qt their scum together and its why their so confused about my scum claim. wat | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:58 sicklucker wrote: I refuse to talk any more cop stuff untill the very end of tomorrow. For obvious reasons. You should probably understand the concept of not helping mafia. Im never mafia I have no motivation to fake claim as a middle of the pack lynch. I wouldnt have gotten lynched for 3 days at the earliest im a better mafia player then that. It is really important that you confirm that damdred was 100 % greenchecked by you I will also show you why: On January 02 2015 14:02 Alakaslam wrote: I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): TheChyz (2): DoctorHelvetica (0): geript (6): marvellosity (0): Lazermonkey (0): IAmRobik (0): sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sicklucker, IAmRobik I took the liberty to colour myself and my townreads Artanis/Dr.H green here. If SL is the cop and telling the truth then this wagon is the purest I have seen in a long time. Only Robik looks suspicious. Now why is there not more mafia if geript is mafia? | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote: on phone, only have like 5 minutes. apparently SL claimed cop since i last was able to read the thread. guess he is not the lynch today, evaluate claim later. want to vote vivax, marv, maybe damdred. so for now: ##vote: vivax This guy is intentionally being useless with his vote. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:18 IAmRobik wrote: WTF JAT? Hm? | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:24 KelsierSC wrote: JAT so you think geript and bats are both town? The votecount suggests that IF SLs claim is real. Don't you think? | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:26 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:25 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:24 KelsierSC wrote: JAT so you think geript and bats are both town? The votecount suggests that IF SLs claim is real. Don't you think? indeed, but i don't think SL is real. But do you think he is scum? I don't think SL does this as scum so the only possible scum for me out of the green colored people is damdred. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:28 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:26 KelsierSC wrote: On January 05 2015 13:25 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:24 KelsierSC wrote: JAT so you think geript and bats are both town? The votecount suggests that IF SLs claim is real. Don't you think? indeed, but i don't think SL is real. But do you think he is scum? I don't think SL does this as scum so the only possible scum for me out of the green colored people is damdred. yeh I think he's scum Come on there is literally no reason to do what he did as scum. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:37 IAmRobik wrote: oh man, this vote is so close! You aren't being funny or helpful. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:38 Superbia wrote: JAT, you have to be kidding. Why? And no I am certainly not. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:41 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:39 Vivax wrote: JAT, kelsier, need to know if you will switch to Robik. Don't want superbia since marv is there and he only recently started playing for realsies. no I don't want to switch to Robik. ^ We can lynch Robik tomorrow but I am not willing to do this today. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:41 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:38 Superbia wrote: JAT, you have to be kidding. Why? And no I am certainly not. You said Ritoky and geript are the best lynches in your opinion and your vote analysis just implied Robik. What the fuck? My vote analysis di NOT imply Robik. My vote analysis implies that geript is town. I don't think there are enough people to switch to ritoky unfortunately. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:45 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:43 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:41 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 13:39 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:38 Superbia wrote: JAT, you have to be kidding. Why? And no I am certainly not. You said Ritoky and geript are the best lynches in your opinion and your vote analysis just implied Robik. What the fuck? My vote analysis di NOT imply Robik. My vote analysis implies that geript is town. I don't think there are enough people to switch to ritoky unfortunately. I'm ready to switch to ritoky. Yeah, you&me. Who else? | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:49 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote: You have already 3 votes on you, 2 of which are supposedly confirmed town and I don't townread you. Both of which have had absolute shit reasons for pushing on me, if they are even really town to begin with. Like I'm town. I was not here d1. Fucking hell. You were also not here day2. Your play has been utter trash if you are town. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:49 Vivax wrote: Being abrasive and being angry at the cop claim don't convince me. Especially since the cop claimed he was mafia and if a guy claims that he's cop and calls me mafia and I know I'm town, then I'm obviously going to be pissed. So it's still explainable from town PoV. This is sooo weak. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:53 Superbia wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:50 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 13:49 Superbia wrote: On January 05 2015 13:46 justanothertownie wrote: You have already 3 votes on you, 2 of which are supposedly confirmed town and I don't townread you. Both of which have had absolute shit reasons for pushing on me, if they are even really town to begin with. Like I'm town. I was not here d1. Fucking hell. You were also not here day2. Your play has been utter trash if you are town. I was not here during n1 because I was hoping to get NKed. I was here during d2. Yeah, I haven't been able to put in as much time as I wanted to. I think my reads have been solid and I stand by them. lol what? Never ever would that happen. | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:59 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 13:57 Superbia wrote: JAT I can't believe you tried to pull this shit at EoD. If geript flips red you're on my lynch-list. What surprises me the most is that during the rest of the day he sleeps and does nothing but trashtalk, and at EoD he starts actually pulling arguments out of his sleeve. It's like he only plays to change things at EoDs, but let's wait for the flip before discussing JAT some more. Look at this guy! He is trying to find the best lynch and make things happen EoD! MUST be scum! | ||
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On January 05 2015 13:59 geript wrote: Good Job Town!!! You lynched the fucking medic. Congrats!!!! Fucking idiot if this is true. CLAIM-.- | ||
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On January 05 2015 14:16 IAmRobik wrote: so like. can we discuss how you're all fucking shitters now Then next time do something about it. You have no right to complain. | ||
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On January 05 2015 15:00 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 14:59 justanothertownie wrote: And yeah, a decision about chyz would be dope. well hes modkilled or replaces so that would be a waste of time ??? | ||
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On January 05 2015 15:22 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 15:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 15:14 GlowingBear wrote: Calm down And lynch JAT Alone for saying this I'll probably townread you. Provided you mean it. Scumreads geript Leads shenannies on easy target batsnacks Keeps scumreading geript Gets enough votes on geript Tries shenannies on Superbia Votecount reveals geript needed to die to give space to another discussion JAT decides to shenannie TWICE instead of lynching his biggest scum target AND allowing space for another discussion? No way. Grats. This is the dumbest shit I heard all game and vivax is in it. | ||
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On January 05 2015 15:46 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 15:44 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 15:22 GlowingBear wrote: On January 05 2015 15:17 Vivax wrote: On January 05 2015 15:14 GlowingBear wrote: Calm down And lynch JAT Alone for saying this I'll probably townread you. Provided you mean it. Scumreads geript Leads shenannies on easy target batsnacks Keeps scumreading geript Gets enough votes on geript Tries shenannies on Superbia Votecount reveals geript needed to die to give space to another discussion JAT decides to shenannie TWICE instead of lynching his biggest scum target AND allowing space for another discussion? No way. Grats. This is the dumbest shit I heard all game and vivax is in it. Thanks. I'll be on you all day long. And I'll get you lynched because you're scum. Cute. | ||
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On January 05 2015 15:50 GlowingBear wrote: Anyway, I'm gonna read eden's filter tomorrow too because I have a feeling he could be on the right track. I don't understand why mafia would kill him. Maybe you should read the thread instead GB. Just sayin. | ||
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On January 05 2015 17:33 Palmar wrote: Yes, ritoky may be a super good kill. Weekend is over. No excuses anymore. | ||
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On January 05 2015 18:46 marvellosity wrote: bleh. i'd hoped geript/super was scum/scum and vivax was the town wagon. hi vivax. That's a pretty lazy hope. | ||
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On January 05 2015 19:22 marvellosity wrote: i thought both geript and superbia were excellent lynches, i couldn't believe that geript thought that a non-pressured mafia would claim a CC-able role in an open setup, and everything Superbia was posting was cancer. That's because he is an idiot which is not alignment indicative and shouldn't be news to you. | ||
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On January 05 2015 19:32 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 12:58 ritoky wrote: on phone, only have like 5 minutes. apparently SL claimed cop since i last was able to read the thread. guess he is not the lynch today, evaluate claim later. want to vote vivax, marv, maybe damdred. so for now: ##vote: vivax ew Yes, ew very much. | ||
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On January 05 2015 19:36 marvellosity wrote: I'm posting less and trying to make the right calls. Try lynching me for it and I'm sure we'll see where we stand. It needs to stop. I am tired of being the only one (with a few exceptions) in this game that actually tries to make things happen. | ||
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On January 05 2015 22:16 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 22:10 sicklucker wrote: Eden could have been right and they could have killed koshi to confuse us? This is something that could have happened. No one gave two flying fucks about edens reads when he died so if that was their goal it worked. Eden also had some really good town reads and thats a good reason to kill people too. Why couldn't they have killed koshi cause he was right about vivax and kill Eden to confuse us? You make nooooo sense My personal theory is that Eden not only looked very towny but was also the only one going after/analysing the people that wasted their votes day1 which now that we know it was a race between 2 towns was probably the correct thing to do. Mafia probably didn't want someone with this mindset in the game. | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:27 sicklucker wrote: Actually na fuck it im not the cop. I wanted to drag it out till the end of the night to rescind but I dont want the medic to be restricted to save me when mafia probably knows im fake by now. It woulda been smart if I did this with no medic but alas My goal was obviously to take a bullet and gain information I made it pretty obvious to the real cop that I was pushing no hard agenda and Im sure no ones bad enough here to cc on day 2 for a likely vt. I was softing hard and not committed to doing it. But I have a 100% way to prove im vt so I figured id dick around and see what info that would pop up. The only thing you could do that is even dumber than the fakeclaim itself is rescinding at night. I have no words for this. | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:33 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 23:31 justanothertownie wrote: And the people who pushed the issue at night should feel bad too. yeh I feel bad for pushing my scum read You could have done that when the night is over and he is still alive. You know - when you can vote and pushing people thus makes sense. | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:34 sicklucker wrote: Na theres no double stacking and mafia knows im fake like 70% of the time. So were wasting are medic save if I dont out. Dont worry I have it alot of thought. The bolded - what? | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can't really blame him jat, when things don't make sense I instinctively push for them too but you're right that it was bad. I can and will blame him. It is not forbidden to use your brain from time to time. | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 23:37 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 23:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I can't really blame him jat, when things don't make sense I instinctively push for them too but you're right that it was bad. I can and will blame him. It is not forbidden to use your brain from time to time. I firmly disagree with that statement. Thought so. | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 23:54 justanothertownie wrote: Marv confirmed scum for being mad at the WIFOM. Flawless logic, voting marv the minute D3 starts. yup | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:57 sicklucker wrote: Ah you know what I shoulda done. I shoulda told the medic to flip a coin if heads he saves me tonight if tails he saves me tomorrow. If mafia believes my claim they woulda been screwed, You can still tell him. | ||
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On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: yah, tell me Now he is using his own WIFOM to cover his tracks. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:00 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 05 2015 23:59 justanothertownie wrote: On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: yah, tell me Now he is using his own WIFOM to cover his tracks. #highlevelplays #tooobvious | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 00:02 sicklucker wrote: So like I really hope people are mad at me so we vote between me and ritoky and when I win that shit we finally find mafia What if slam is a bastard host and there are no mafia and he's just killing random people at night? Nah, that would mean ritoky is town and I refuse to believe this. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 00:04 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 00:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 06 2015 00:02 sicklucker wrote: So like I really hope people are mad at me so we vote between me and ritoky and when I win that shit we finally find mafia What if slam is a bastard host and there are no mafia and he's just killing random people at night? Nah, that would mean ritoky is town and I refuse to believe this. What makes Ritoky scum and not just incredibly bad though? That's been my impression of him. Oh, he is incredibly bad. Generally he tries while being incredibly bad though if I am not mistaken. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:08 IAmRobik wrote: Fuck. I was driving to work and had some sick connections about vivax and someone else but i forget who they are.. oh yea...it was vivax and ritoky and superbia. I think that if vivax flips scum then ritoky is town and superbia is scum. If you don't see the connection or why i'm making the connection you're bad and dumb and wrong. I remember thinking about a connection between superbia and Vivax during the shenannies yesterday. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:08 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 00:06 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 00:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: Robik, dearest, why don't you care that I'm suspicious of you? Cause you're not suspicious of me. Or you're mafia. Given that vivax wasn't lynched there's 0 reason to be suspicious of me. If vivax was lynched and flipped town, then there would be need to worry, but since everyone decided to not lynch him like dumb dumbs, there's nothing to be suspicious of i'm not sure you understand the game of mafia very well. town sucks and does stupid stuff. mafia rolls because town doesn't listen to dead townies. I think i'm familiar with the game Yeah, if you are town you are playing that part really well. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:15 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 00:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 00:08 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 00:06 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 00:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: Robik, dearest, why don't you care that I'm suspicious of you? Cause you're not suspicious of me. Or you're mafia. Given that vivax wasn't lynched there's 0 reason to be suspicious of me. If vivax was lynched and flipped town, then there would be need to worry, but since everyone decided to not lynch him like dumb dumbs, there's nothing to be suspicious of i'm not sure you understand the game of mafia very well. town sucks and does stupid stuff. mafia rolls because town doesn't listen to dead townies. I think i'm familiar with the game Yeah, if you are town you are playing that part really well. I'M DOING WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I'M FOLLOWING THE CLUES. Clue 1: Koshi died and Eden died Clue 2: I now know two truths: Koshi was killed n1, Koshi was wrong and geript and me. Why was koshi killed? HMMMMMMM. Maybe it's cause his top scum was correct. DING DING DING DING DING!!!! Clue 3: Eden was killed. Eden's top 2 scum suspects were ritoky and superbia. Clue 4: Superbia and Vivax have a really fucking weird connection Clue 5: Superbia's one post of d1 was him voting Ritoky Clue 6: Ritoky isn't a good player, so it's highly unlikely that he's going to be the one to bus for cred because he's probably not good enough to survive late game. Thus if vivax is scum, he's probably not scum with vivax. Clue 7: Ritoky voted Vivax 2 days now (i believe) I follow clues. I play well. You lynch geript. You play not so well. GGNORE Clue 6 and 7 are pretty bad in my opinion. Also I did not lynch geript and unlike you I tried to make other people not lynch him too. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 00:16 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 00:15 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 00:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 00:08 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 00:06 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 00:06 IAmRobik wrote: On January 05 2015 23:58 marvellosity wrote: Robik, dearest, why don't you care that I'm suspicious of you? Cause you're not suspicious of me. Or you're mafia. Given that vivax wasn't lynched there's 0 reason to be suspicious of me. If vivax was lynched and flipped town, then there would be need to worry, but since everyone decided to not lynch him like dumb dumbs, there's nothing to be suspicious of i'm not sure you understand the game of mafia very well. town sucks and does stupid stuff. mafia rolls because town doesn't listen to dead townies. I think i'm familiar with the game Yeah, if you are town you are playing that part really well. I'M DOING WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. I'M FOLLOWING THE CLUES. Clue 1: Koshi died and Eden died Clue 2: I now know two truths: Koshi was killed n1, Koshi was wrong and geript and me. Why was koshi killed? HMMMMMMM. Maybe it's cause his top scum was correct. DING DING DING DING DING!!!! Clue 3: Eden was killed. Eden's top 2 scum suspects were ritoky and superbia. Clue 4: Superbia and Vivax have a really fucking weird connection Clue 5: Superbia's one post of d1 was him voting Ritoky Clue 6: Ritoky isn't a good player, so it's highly unlikely that he's going to be the one to bus for cred because he's probably not good enough to survive late game. Thus if vivax is scum, he's probably not scum with vivax. Clue 7: Ritoky voted Vivax 2 days now (i believe) I follow clues. I play well. You lynch geript. You play not so well. GGNORE Clue 6 and 7 are pretty bad in my opinion. Also I did not lynch geript and unlike you I tried to make other people not lynch him too. I wish I were around during deadline Me too. I even tried to summon you. | ||
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On January 06 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 00:44 Damdred wrote: Ok just caught up and woke up, I am upset at you SL, if you are trying to draw a bullet you do not unclaim during the night you let the medic make the wifom decision. I'll talk more about this tomorrow if it comes up. I'll be honest though I really hate it how vivax and LM hard defended super during the eod, i'm not really sure why you shouldn't be ok to lynch super. Kels reasoning I think made sense to me, he didn't hard defend super. Because of this post, if super is mafia, you are too. Also I'm honestly going to just chill. There is literally no one being not bad in this town at the moment. Everyone has either lynched townies, or failed to push alternative lynches. This means mafia has no idea whom to shoot tonight, because the doc save is guaranteed. So I guess I'll just see who they shoot, and figure the game out tomorrow. I may start reading tonight, but I'm not going to conclude much for now. Fine. But you play day3 or you die day3. On January 06 2015 00:53 Palmar wrote: Like if anyone claims to be "caught up" with 221 pages of this game that person is full of shit. At this point I'm going to use filters and then figure out context. No one has actually read the game in any detail. I claim to be full of shit. On January 06 2015 01:06 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:05 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 01:04 GlowingBear wrote: As hard as it is to me to say this, Robik looks townie to me. I can't really say why, also. His mafia play looked more underwhelming on Guilty Mini Mafia. Even more underwhelming. Jesus christ Yeah we should lynch this guy. He's not spamming caps about lynching Holyflare, which I think is his meta. So therefore he must be mafia. Solid meta. Would sheep. On January 06 2015 01:16 GlowingBear wrote: I'm scumreading JAT. How can I be agreeable? You are stating this as if it was some awesome achievement. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:26 IAmRobik wrote: No. DOn't give a fuck about your little bullshit spat with plammmar. I want your thoughtso n the game as it stands rgith now. Who's town? Who's scum? Who's cop? Who's medic? Literally any thought you have about the game. I want it. You are one greedy bitch. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:27 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:24 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 00:44 Damdred wrote: Ok just caught up and woke up, I am upset at you SL, if you are trying to draw a bullet you do not unclaim during the night you let the medic make the wifom decision. I'll talk more about this tomorrow if it comes up. I'll be honest though I really hate it how vivax and LM hard defended super during the eod, i'm not really sure why you shouldn't be ok to lynch super. Kels reasoning I think made sense to me, he didn't hard defend super. Because of this post, if super is mafia, you are too. Also I'm honestly going to just chill. There is literally no one being not bad in this town at the moment. Everyone has either lynched townies, or failed to push alternative lynches. This means mafia has no idea whom to shoot tonight, because the doc save is guaranteed. So I guess I'll just see who they shoot, and figure the game out tomorrow. I may start reading tonight, but I'm not going to conclude much for now. Fine. But you play day3 or you die day3. On January 06 2015 00:53 Palmar wrote: Like if anyone claims to be "caught up" with 221 pages of this game that person is full of shit. At this point I'm going to use filters and then figure out context. No one has actually read the game in any detail. I claim to be full of shit. On January 06 2015 01:06 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:05 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 01:04 GlowingBear wrote: As hard as it is to me to say this, Robik looks townie to me. I can't really say why, also. His mafia play looked more underwhelming on Guilty Mini Mafia. Even more underwhelming. Jesus christ Yeah we should lynch this guy. He's not spamming caps about lynching Holyflare, which I think is his meta. So therefore he must be mafia. Solid meta. Would sheep. On January 06 2015 01:16 GlowingBear wrote: I'm scumreading JAT. How can I be agreeable? You are stating this as if it was some awesome achievement. It's not awesome, but again, I'm taking an original instance against a strong player, which is a town trait. I guess that's why you are doing it, correct? The other question in this post can't be serious. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:31 IAmRobik wrote: Artanis, DrH, JAT--- Still scum reading me? No, not reading you at all atm. I will see what I think about you tomorrow. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote: No JAT. I'm doing it because, for the reasons I've brought from you, I think you're scum. Mafia has no motivation to scumread a strong player. They just shoot them at night. Simply as this. They have every motivation to do so if they think it makes them be townread like you obviously do. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:40 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:36 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote: No JAT. I'm doing it because, for the reasons I've brought from you, I think you're scum. Mafia has no motivation to scumread a strong player. They just shoot them at night. Simply as this. They have every motivation to do so if they think it makes them be townread like you obviously do. I was already townread before coming to the thread against people. I could keep the lurkage and survive days over. I'm not lurking anymore because finally I have a stable internect connection at home. If you really can't see this as obvious town, nothing will. You will not survive by keeping up the lurking and I refuse to believe that you think so. And the fact that you made a few posts (grats) does certainly not make you obvious town, lol. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ, you fucking did. go on, this should be good See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight. The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post. Now, the important part here is your sentence "you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly. Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know. You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you. Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made. The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia. also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it. tldr: lol Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU. And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core. The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point. I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out? the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it. You've absolutely been scared to push me this game. Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_> | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:48 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:41 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:39 justanothertownie wrote: Regardless of marvs alignment that's a pretty shitty case Palmar. I know, that's the beauty of it. It's 100% correct. The only way marv does not flip mafia, is if he actually knew that he didn't believe this (which is true in any world) and was trying some sort of a weird bait play. But there is no way he believes that I was being scared of lynching him. No matter his alignment. Please stop hydraing with Rayn lol, good post! | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ, you fucking did. go on, this should be good See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight. The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post. Now, the important part here is your sentence "you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly. Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know. You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you. Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made. The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia. also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it. tldr: lol Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU. And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core. The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point. I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out? the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it. You've absolutely been scared to push me this game. Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_> wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town? Yes, when you were scum. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ, you fucking did. go on, this should be good See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight. The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post. Now, the important part here is your sentence "you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly. Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know. You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you. Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made. The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia. also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it. tldr: lol Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU. And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core. The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point. I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out? the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it. You've absolutely been scared to push me this game. Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_> wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town? Yes, when you were scum. duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games hm | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:51 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:41 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: [quote] See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight. The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post. Now, the important part here is your sentence "you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly. Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know. You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you. Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made. The problem is, you're not incapable of doing what you've done this game as mafia. The reason I townread you on d1 only works for me, in that you based your read on me on conditional reads compared to yours, which I thought would be difficult for you to pull off as mafia. also, come off it. Robik is not the first person you've asked about lynching me this game without a followup behind it. tldr: lol Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU. And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core. The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point. I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out? the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it. You've absolutely been scared to push me this game. Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_> wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town? Yes, when you were scum. duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games hm you're being silly. the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled) here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game) Yeah, but I am also threating you differently. | ||
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On January 06 2015 01:55 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:54 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:51 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:50 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:49 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:48 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 01:45 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:43 Palmar wrote: [quote] Yes, asking people if they want to lynch you is a fine way of figuring out things about THEM, not about YOU. And again, I probably should've left out the part about you having long decided my alignment, scum or town, because that's not the core. The core is you don't believe that I am scared to try to lynch you at that point. I don';t believe this. How do you figure out anything about them without trying to figure me out? the last 2 games you yolo-challenged me to a duel d1, and pushed my lynch straight away d1. This game you're sitting in the background casually asking people about it. You've absolutely been scared to push me this game. Oh god. Is it me or does this post really heavily imply that marv is scum? >_> wat? are those not the last 2 times Palmar pushed me as town? Yes, when you were scum. duh. he's not been town in other games with me since those games hm you're being silly. the point is this: when Palmar has been town, he's treated me in x way (and yes i was mafia in those two games, dem's how the dice rolled) here he is treating me in a completely different way (even though he has called me mafia all game) Yeah, but I am also threating you differently. you've not called me mafia all game, as far as i can tell you want to lynch me when i've been away from the thread for a while, and then kinda townread me while i'm around even though you don't want to Pretty much. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:00 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote: I dont know whats going on but I like it carry on NO. NO. IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF MY TEAM YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS FUCKING PLAMMMMAR/MARV SHIT IS BULLSHIT. MARV, THOUGHT DUMP IMMEDIATELY...THIS SHIT WITH PLAMMMAR IS FUCKING USELESS I DISCOVERED THE CAPSLOCK KEY! GODDAMMIT! | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:02 IAmRobik wrote: If medic isn't on kelsier tonight, you're getting your balls ripped off Don't listen to this bully. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:04 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:02 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:00 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 01:55 sicklucker wrote: I dont know whats going on but I like it carry on NO. NO. IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF MY TEAM YOU DO NOT LIKE WHAT'S GOING ON. THIS FUCKING PLAMMMMAR/MARV SHIT IS BULLSHIT. MARV, THOUGHT DUMP IMMEDIATELY...THIS SHIT WITH PLAMMMAR IS FUCKING USELESS I DISCOVERED THE CAPSLOCK KEY! GODDAMMIT! This shit is boring. You even said it yourself -- palmar is the only one who is able to draw any conclusion from this bullshit tit for tat they have going. Marv is looking scummier from it because he said he's busy with plammmar, but he's not even interacting in a way that would convince the rest of us that plammmar is scum or that marv is town. furthermore, marv isnt' even expressing any opinions on palmar from it, just basically that palmar is dumb and that kelsier is dumb. You're fucking cool marv. I KNOW! I JUST LIKE YELLING! | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:07 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 01:34 Palmar wrote: On January 06 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 01:24 Palmar wrote: Jesus christ, you fucking did. go on, this should be good See you are 100% correct. I have absolutely no problem lynching you when I think you're mafia. And you also know I'm completely useless when trying to lynch you when I'm mafia, as literally anyone can see if they go back and read world heavyweight. The problem is, as I've already explained this game, that I know you want to play a game of mafia where you are town and don't do much, just to break your meta. Last game we played where I got you on day 1 you actually made a very clumsy move early in the game with the "bitch" post. Now, the important part here is your sentence "you're usually not scared to lynch me". The simple fact that you said this must mean that you are mafia. The reason is that you absolutely 100% know that I am not scared of lynching you right now. The reason I haven't pushed it is because it took me 2 days to get my preferred lynch in AND because you simply haven't fucked up. I can only know you're mafia when something fits perfectly. Saying I'm scared is your version of slowplaying a suspicion on me, something you wouldn't do if you were actually town. If you were town, you'd basically have decided my alignment now. You'd have been certain since day 1 that I am incapable of doing what I've done this game as town. There's so many of the random tells that I know about myself in my town play this game that you would know. You just said something I KNOW you don't believe. You don't believe I'm scared of lynching you. There is no fucking way you misunderstood me consulting Robik and figuring out his opinion (which tbh, has more to do with HIM than you), as some sort of a weak attempt to gather support for a lynch on you. Holy shit, this may be the best case I've ever made. I'm not quite following the argument yet but Palmar's play gave me such boners this game that I''ll simply assume i'm too stupid to immediately understand what he's saying here, and completely agree with his conclusion. Gonna try to look at this some more and figuring it out in the meantime. You have been doing that all game and I think it looks kinda awful. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:08 sicklucker wrote: Opps I mean dandred thats my check ormorow ugh what do you mean? damdred is red? He is trolling. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:14 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:13 marvellosity wrote: anyhoo. we should lynch vivax tomorrow. Yo. We are finally on the same wavelength What? Vivax? Also he has been saying this for a while. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:15 marvellosity wrote: everyone should stop using my post for their own devilish ends. Swines UNLESS YOU DISAGREE THEN DON'T CALL MY END DEVILISH! PERHAPS IT IS THE SAME END YOU SEEK!!! It could be devilish regardless! | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:18 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:14 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:08 sicklucker wrote: Opps I mean dandred thats my check ormorow ugh what do you mean? damdred is red? He is trolling. alright fair enough. I have many reasons to doubt that SL is cop, his scummy play has been raised by me before, I have asked him to explain his inconsistencies and he has dodged my questions about his dam check. But if I entertain a world where SL is cop with a green on dam. then the bats wagon is almost guaranteed to be totally clean. unless artanis is mafia but I don't know I can't see a mafia voting in that position. But it also means that I have no reasons to TR LM and he also fits the mould of someone who has just left his vote on geript and not really contributed to the game in a meaningful way. In the world where SL is cop and dam is his green. I can see a scum team of something like this. Viv LM Super Marv Palmar There's almost 0% chance of marv/Palm being mafia together. Almost. Come talk to me again if one of them flips red though. why because of their bullshit girl slapping fight? You think the arguments they raise here are good?, it is the most pointless squabble I can imagine. you think marv and palmar are incapable of that? You should probably listen to VE. It is likely that he has way more information than you do. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:22 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:18 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:14 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:08 sicklucker wrote: Opps I mean dandred thats my check ormorow ugh what do you mean? damdred is red? He is trolling. alright fair enough. I have many reasons to doubt that SL is cop, his scummy play has been raised by me before, I have asked him to explain his inconsistencies and he has dodged my questions about his dam check. But if I entertain a world where SL is cop with a green on dam. then the bats wagon is almost guaranteed to be totally clean. unless artanis is mafia but I don't know I can't see a mafia voting in that position. But it also means that I have no reasons to TR LM and he also fits the mould of someone who has just left his vote on geript and not really contributed to the game in a meaningful way. In the world where SL is cop and dam is his green. I can see a scum team of something like this. Viv LM Super Marv Palmar There's almost 0% chance of marv/Palm being mafia together. Almost. Come talk to me again if one of them flips red though. why because of their bullshit girl slapping fight? You think the arguments they raise here are good?, it is the most pointless squabble I can imagine. you think marv and palmar are incapable of that? You should probably listen to VE. It is likely that he has way more information than you do. Is this you calling me mafia bish? Maybe. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:22 KelsierSC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:18 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:14 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:08 sicklucker wrote: Opps I mean dandred thats my check ormorow ugh what do you mean? damdred is red? He is trolling. alright fair enough. I have many reasons to doubt that SL is cop, his scummy play has been raised by me before, I have asked him to explain his inconsistencies and he has dodged my questions about his dam check. But if I entertain a world where SL is cop with a green on dam. then the bats wagon is almost guaranteed to be totally clean. unless artanis is mafia but I don't know I can't see a mafia voting in that position. But it also means that I have no reasons to TR LM and he also fits the mould of someone who has just left his vote on geript and not really contributed to the game in a meaningful way. In the world where SL is cop and dam is his green. I can see a scum team of something like this. Viv LM Super Marv Palmar There's almost 0% chance of marv/Palm being mafia together. Almost. Come talk to me again if one of them flips red though. why because of their bullshit girl slapping fight? You think the arguments they raise here are good?, it is the most pointless squabble I can imagine. you think marv and palmar are incapable of that? You should probably listen to VE. It is likely that he has way more information than you do. I know VE is a way better player than me, so is like the entire thread. That's not what I wanted to say with that post. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:23 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote: Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended my only important thoughts are who we should lynch. no. who you think is town is also important. I'm gonna kill you tonight. Leave a legacy I could tell you 2 of his townreads if you want. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:25 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:22 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:18 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:14 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:08 sicklucker wrote: Opps I mean dandred thats my check ormorow ugh what do you mean? damdred is red? He is trolling. alright fair enough. I have many reasons to doubt that SL is cop, his scummy play has been raised by me before, I have asked him to explain his inconsistencies and he has dodged my questions about his dam check. But if I entertain a world where SL is cop with a green on dam. then the bats wagon is almost guaranteed to be totally clean. unless artanis is mafia but I don't know I can't see a mafia voting in that position. But it also means that I have no reasons to TR LM and he also fits the mould of someone who has just left his vote on geript and not really contributed to the game in a meaningful way. In the world where SL is cop and dam is his green. I can see a scum team of something like this. Viv LM Super Marv Palmar There's almost 0% chance of marv/Palm being mafia together. Almost. Come talk to me again if one of them flips red though. why because of their bullshit girl slapping fight? You think the arguments they raise here are good?, it is the most pointless squabble I can imagine. you think marv and palmar are incapable of that? You should probably listen to VE. It is likely that he has way more information than you do. Is this you calling me mafia bish? Maybe. Then maybe Robik slays you in the night. I don't fear your scum KP. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:26 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:25 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:22 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:19 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:18 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:16 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:14 KelsierSC wrote: On January 06 2015 02:09 justanothertownie wrote: [quote] He is trolling. alright fair enough. I have many reasons to doubt that SL is cop, his scummy play has been raised by me before, I have asked him to explain his inconsistencies and he has dodged my questions about his dam check. But if I entertain a world where SL is cop with a green on dam. then the bats wagon is almost guaranteed to be totally clean. unless artanis is mafia but I don't know I can't see a mafia voting in that position. But it also means that I have no reasons to TR LM and he also fits the mould of someone who has just left his vote on geript and not really contributed to the game in a meaningful way. In the world where SL is cop and dam is his green. I can see a scum team of something like this. Viv LM Super Marv Palmar There's almost 0% chance of marv/Palm being mafia together. Almost. Come talk to me again if one of them flips red though. why because of their bullshit girl slapping fight? You think the arguments they raise here are good?, it is the most pointless squabble I can imagine. you think marv and palmar are incapable of that? You should probably listen to VE. It is likely that he has way more information than you do. Is this you calling me mafia bish? Maybe. Then maybe Robik slays you in the night. I don't fear your scum KP. JAT if you can give me ONE good reason to suspect me then I'll leave you alone. Only one. You are doing jackshit. You seem to be completely uninterested in figuring people out. You just exist. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:30 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:23 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote: Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended my only important thoughts are who we should lynch. no. who you think is town is also important. I'm gonna kill you tonight. Leave a legacy People town should never lynch: jat DrH sl People town should have to have amazing reasons to lynch because i really think they are town: Artanis Kelsier Wow. That's exactly where I am at with my townreads. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm doing stuff, that's false. I'm interested in the game as evidenced by my presence, so that's false. I exist regardless of my alignment. Also a terrible reasoning. You and marv die tomorrow. Cute. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:31 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:30 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:23 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote: Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended my only important thoughts are who we should lynch. no. who you think is town is also important. I'm gonna kill you tonight. Leave a legacy People town should never lynch: jat DrH sl People town should have to have amazing reasons to lynch because i really think they are town: Artanis Kelsier Wow. That's exactly where I am at with my townreads. I mean the ordering might not be exactly the same but the names are. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:33 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:31 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:30 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:23 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 02:21 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:20 IAmRobik wrote: Still waiting for your thought dump marv....it's been 3 pages since your silly fight with plammmar ended my only important thoughts are who we should lynch. no. who you think is town is also important. I'm gonna kill you tonight. Leave a legacy People town should never lynch: jat DrH sl People town should have to have amazing reasons to lynch because i really think they are town: Artanis Kelsier Wow. That's exactly where I am at with my townreads. This is bascially where I'm at except I would flip the never lynch and the people town shouldn't lynch anytime soon. Cept DrH fell off the face of the earth, and JAT is playing so evil fucking game if he's town An evil towngame? What's that? ^_^ | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:35 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:33 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm doing stuff, that's false. I'm interested in the game as evidenced by my presence, so that's false. I exist regardless of my alignment. Also a terrible reasoning. You and marv die tomorrow. where the heck did this come from? You're hard defending mafia. You don't do that as town. Vis a vis.... mr 38 page jat is this? are you fucking insane? "There are no breaks on this crazy train." | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:36 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:35 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:33 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm doing stuff, that's false. I'm interested in the game as evidenced by my presence, so that's false. I exist regardless of my alignment. Also a terrible reasoning. You and marv die tomorrow. where the heck did this come from? You're hard defending mafia. You don't do that as town. Vis a vis.... mr 38 page jat is this? are you fucking insane? Have you seen his fucking posts? Fucking anyone can have 38 pages with posts like his. He's called posts of mine cute THREE TIMES! Fuck you if you think he can't do that as mafia. Cute. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:43 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:43 justanothertownie wrote: VE, who am I trying to get to ragequit? Stop addressing me. If you live the night we'll talk tomorrow. At length. Sure. Am excited. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote: Litereally all we have to do now is admire the magnificiency of Palmar 's case on marv and lynch marv tomorrow. You don't even understand the case. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote: Litereally all we have to do now is admire the magnificiency of Palmar 's case on marv and lynch marv tomorrow. You don't even understand the case. do you? Not really. | ||
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On January 06 2015 02:59 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 02:59 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 02:58 marvellosity wrote: On January 06 2015 02:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I get it. He's got some meta reason for thinking that "marv knows I'm not afraid to push him". Palmar is town here, and he's observed marv observing him pushing for marv's lynch as both marvTown and marvScum. He's operating under the assumption that marv as either alignment will have remembered these instances so knows when marv says "Palmar is scared to push" he knows it's false. It's not a difficult case to grasp, the question is: does it make marv mafia? DOES marv know Palmar isn't scared to push? WOULD marv say otherwise EXCLUSIVELY as mafia? I don't know, but Palmar seems to be sure. you're kinda ignoring the important part of what palmar has actually done about it this game The "nothing" part? I get that too. The thing is that he could just not be sure as town right? "marv is mafia but i don't want to lynch him today" you know he actually said that, right? He said that because he didn't want to embarass you. Cause he's a nice guy! | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:01 VisceraEyes wrote: I feel like he might have been joking at the time. Like not actually thinking you're mafia, just saying that. He's known to do so. I would know. He sounded pretty sincere about it tbh. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:04 Damdred wrote: Can you guys read what I wrote on ve now? Please and hive thoughts Popping up at random times and saying this is literally all you are doing. Why? | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:16 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:15 GlowingBear wrote: On January 06 2015 03:11 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 03:10 GlowingBear wrote: I would say slam is cool enough to pull all the vets on the scum team for the lulz what are you implying MF To put all the vets* I'm implying I'm having a scumread on Palmar, JAT and marv and that's bizarre. But mostly palmar. I want palmar dead. you better not imply that i'm not the biggest baddest vet around You aren't even a vet. Neither am I. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:20 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:18 IAmRobik wrote: I don't know if marv sacrifices his rolling-town elation in exchange for a single game where he'll be able to win as mafia do you also think if I couldn't be assed playing mafia last time, I'd suddenly be on course for my longest filter ever as mafia in the very next game? ^^ (despite NYE+holidays) Yeah... | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:23 IAmRobik wrote: Is anyone goign to bother doing a voting analysis? Like the voting pattern I did regarding JAT? That wasn't a voting analysis. It was a brainfart. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:26 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote: On January 06 2015 03:23 IAmRobik wrote: Is anyone goign to bother doing a voting analysis? Like the voting pattern I did regarding JAT? no...like who voted on bats and who voted on geript and find overlaps and find who strayed from both lynches and was on 3rd party candidates who didn't matter to hide their vote If I survive the night I might do something like that. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:27 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:25 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote: On January 06 2015 03:23 IAmRobik wrote: Is anyone goign to bother doing a voting analysis? Like the voting pattern I did regarding JAT? That wasn't a voting analysis. It was a brainfart. A fart that smells like eau de toilette And permanently damaged any mental capacity of yours. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:29 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:27 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 03:26 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 03:24 GlowingBear wrote: On January 06 2015 03:23 IAmRobik wrote: Is anyone goign to bother doing a voting analysis? Like the voting pattern I did regarding JAT? no...like who voted on bats and who voted on geript and find overlaps and find who strayed from both lynches and was on 3rd party candidates who didn't matter to hide their vote If I survive the night I might do something like that. don't worry. you won't. basically as soon as night phase started, me, vivax, palmar, gb and superbia all typed "double stack jat" simultaneously in our QT and then we got on a video conference and laughed about it You evil motherfuckers ;( | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:33 sicklucker wrote: Me Jat marv robik ksc doc gb? medic? Like we kind of have auto guys. Not that sold on GB otherwise I am kinda ok with this list. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:34 sicklucker wrote: artanis too Yeah. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't even know what's going on anymore. Also why marv? Maybe you should just catch up instead of asking now. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:39 sicklucker wrote: I have decided that robik cant be mafia since gerit was town from vote analyst hes also looked good today. This read is still utter horseshit. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:42 sicklucker wrote: We put marv and palmer in a cage and they fought about stuff we dont care about and we chose marv. Marvs reads are really good. Like hes trying to hard as mafia I think is a great read after last game. Like a gladiator match? Neat. G2g It wasn't actually that impressive or interesting. More like 2 toddlers fighting. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 03:39 sicklucker wrote: I have decided that robik cant be mafia since gerit was town from vote analyst hes also looked good today. This read is still utter horseshit. This is all you're doing, JAT. Saying people are dumb, saying reads are shit, but doing NOTHING to move the thread forward. I can't possibly read you as town. This is what happens when you don't read the game. I am the ONLY person that DID move the thread forward in the sense of finding a lynch EOD on both days. But I won't stop you from further embarassing yourself by calling me scum. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:48 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:46 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 03:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 06 2015 03:42 sicklucker wrote: We put marv and palmer in a cage and they fought about stuff we dont care about and we chose marv. Marvs reads are really good. Like hes trying to hard as mafia I think is a great read after last game. Like a gladiator match? Neat. G2g It wasn't actually that impressive or interesting. More like 2 toddlers fighting. *glares* :D | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:52 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 03:48 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 03:46 GlowingBear wrote: On January 06 2015 03:40 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 03:39 sicklucker wrote: I have decided that robik cant be mafia since gerit was town from vote analyst hes also looked good today. This read is still utter horseshit. This is all you're doing, JAT. Saying people are dumb, saying reads are shit, but doing NOTHING to move the thread forward. I can't possibly read you as town. This is what happens when you don't read the game. I am the ONLY person that DID move the thread forward in the sense of finding a lynch EOD on both days. But I won't stop you from further embarassing yourself by calling me scum. Oh, so you're saying that leading the shenannies on bats on EoD is moving the thread forward? Ok. Yeah, I'm embarrassed of scumhunting, I apologise. Yes. | ||
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On January 06 2015 03:53 IAmRobik wrote: Our fearless leader JAT is leading town in a bad direction Abort Abort Abort Abort Abort #teamrobik Am I? Why do you claim to have the same reads as me then? | ||
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On January 06 2015 04:32 IAmRobik wrote: thread died It saw your ridiculous statement. | ||
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On January 06 2015 06:31 marvellosity wrote: hai What is Palmars alignment? | ||
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On January 06 2015 06:46 marvellosity wrote: right this moment i'm waiting for robik to reply ^ | ||
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On January 06 2015 06:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh boy did robik just claim scum? | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:03 marvellosity wrote: I swear I'm not crazy Why would we trust a crazy person swearing? | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:09 IAmRobik wrote: I don't give a fuck. If you think I'm lying then you can try to lynch me for it tomorrow. But I'm not lying. I was trying to pay attention to modding af ucking game of video mafia. I'm town. VE you should be fucking embarassed since you were in that game and know I was devoting my attention to that and to fixing the stream CAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST FUCKING STREAM. Was it recorded? | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 07:11 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 07:09 IAmRobik wrote: I don't give a fuck. If you think I'm lying then you can try to lynch me for it tomorrow. But I'm not lying. I was trying to pay attention to modding af ucking game of video mafia. I'm town. VE you should be fucking embarassed since you were in that game and know I was devoting my attention to that and to fixing the stream CAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST FUCKING STREAM. Was it recorded? Can we please not go there? I am asking because I am genuinely interested in the stream. Not because of this game. | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:13 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 07:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm reminded of Blazinghand putting down boxes in his house and taking a picture to tell the thread how he was moving. please don't remind me of that retarded town That was actually really funny. | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 07:18 Lazermonkey wrote: On January 06 2015 07:10 marvellosity wrote: actually that's right, i went back to check, the votecount just before he said that was geript - vivax 5-5 then according to eye-witnesses robik was spotted in a dingy bar called Video Mafia and he didn't post from that point till basically deadline, in between jat switched to super etc Meh, I guess that makes sense : ( | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:29 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 07:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 06 2015 07:22 IAmRobik wrote: WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE SO SAD THAT I'M TOWN!?!?? You should probably reflect on that as a person. I've been on my best behavior this game. Besides superbia or sicklucker who got offended by me calling one of his posts/arguments dumb, I haven't done a single thing, besides calling people clowns and poop poop. You mean besides repeatedly shitting on my game? | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:32 IAmRobik wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 07:30 justanothertownie wrote: On January 06 2015 07:29 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 07:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 06 2015 07:22 IAmRobik wrote: WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE SO SAD THAT I'M TOWN!?!?? You should probably reflect on that as a person. I've been on my best behavior this game. Besides superbia or sicklucker who got offended by me calling one of his posts/arguments dumb, I haven't done a single thing, besides calling people clowns and poop poop. You mean besides repeatedly shitting on my game? saying you're playing a bad game isn't me saying you'er a bad player. I think you're a good player. I think that you're playing this game poorly if you're town because you are leading town astray. All these baseless accusations. I lead one mislynch... | ||
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On January 06 2015 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote: Show nested quote + On January 06 2015 07:30 IAmRobik wrote: On January 06 2015 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote: On January 06 2015 07:22 IAmRobik wrote: You're seriously a clown VE. I hope you're mafia, because you're a really really silly individual if you're town I'm silly for finding lies in a game of mafia and attempting to use those to determine assignments in a game of mafia. That makes me silly. You wonder why people don't take you seriously. How is it a lie? Look at the vote count! It was 5-5 with vivax and geript. I didn't know who was voting other people. Like you're grasping at straws here man. I don't know if you're doing it because you're mafia or because you want to lynch me in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME that we ever play together. The lie is "I didn't know how close it was". That's the lie. You did know how close it was. I don't care that you didn't know how close Super was to a lynch, the fact that the vote was close at all meant you could have done something, ANYTHING, to push your Super preference. Instead we get "THIS IS SO CLOSE" and you fucking off. Like, fine. Whatever. But don't say you didn't know how close it was because you did. You knew that shit. I'm not grasping at anything. You can discredit me all you like, that doesn't change the fact that you lied. There is a difference between knowing how close it was between vivax/geript and how close it was between geript/superbia. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
On January 06 2015 07:46 VisceraEyes wrote: For the record, I replaced into a slot that had 2 posts and turned it into almost a universally townread slot. I haven't done nothing this game. But I am now. Uhm.. | ||
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Town: Sicklucker: I just don't see him doing the whole cop claim shenannigans as scum. I somewhat doubt that he is the real cop though because then his play would be really really dumb. If that is the case and he doesn't get shot he needs to clear that up immediately day3. Artanis: If he fooled me - well played. Looked like he tried to figure out the game. Kelsier: Looked genuinely frustrated with geript and generally tried to figure out the game. Leaning town: Dr. H: Really fell off since day1. I somehow still think he is rather towny. Chezinu: I don't really see mafia ragequit like that. Even if he is scum I am probably not lynching him soon anyways because he is amusing. Marv: Very slight lean. I am by far not townreading him enough for this stage of the game. Said he would post less though. Didn't push enough. Would be weird if he somehow was motivated this game as scum though after the last one. Waffle on. Null: Robik: I really hope he outs as the cop with a redcheck on Vivax. That would really be awesome. Otherwise I am not really sold on him. In general I think the cop should probably claim today if it isn't SL and the medic isn't dead. I mean you can discuss this as a group but the additional informationen if there are 2 alive checks is worth it considering that scum can't kill or rb the cop the next night anyways. Palmar: His rage outburst sounded kinda genuine but he didn't do shit tody even though it isn't weekend anymore. Needs to do shit now. Might be scum. Damdred: If he really is a greenecheck thats great cause I think he has been really forgettable this game. VE: If he is really the medic he is an idiot. Could also very well be scum. Lazermonkey: Not sure here Could be scum: GB: His reads suck. I mean his reads suck as town generally but I don't really believe him. Could give him a little more time though. Vivax: Didn't do much since he isn't on the chopping block anymore. Keeps his read on me for no towny reason. Superbia: Awful posts. Doesn't feel genuine. Ritoky: Playing scum. Even if he by some miracle isn't mafia. | ||
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:04 GMT
#10017
On January 17 2015 13:00 Vivax wrote: JAT: Don't make the thread fucking unreadable and please learn a posting style that focuses on analysis. Maybe YOU should learn how this game works instead. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:05 GMT
#10018
On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:09 GMT
#10020
On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote: one thing before bed: justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 01-16-2015 07:06 PM ET (US) I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this? because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way? It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement. This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:21 GMT
#10023
On January 17 2015 21:16 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote: one thing before bed: justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 01-16-2015 07:06 PM ET (US) I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this? because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way? It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement. This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game. only if you let them? like there's no reason it should ruin the game for anyone or anything. like, probably HTS shouldn't have just appeared, but the fact I gave it literally zero real thought showed the extent to which it affected anything. A newbie shadow in the QT had far less effect on the game than the constant replacements that mafia had to deal with, for example... the DrH/DP swap in particular was just insanely townfavoured It does not matter at all how experienced she is. Putting fresh thoughts in the qt/blue hunting can still help you. Maybe you wouldn't even consciously notice it. I don't deny that the replacements (the DP one above all) were unfair to scum but this is game ruining nonetheless. I signed up to a setup with 5 scum players. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:22 GMT
#10024
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:29 GMT
#10027
On January 17 2015 21:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:21 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:16 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote: one thing before bed: justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 01-16-2015 07:06 PM ET (US) I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this? because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way? It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement. This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game. only if you let them? like there's no reason it should ruin the game for anyone or anything. like, probably HTS shouldn't have just appeared, but the fact I gave it literally zero real thought showed the extent to which it affected anything. A newbie shadow in the QT had far less effect on the game than the constant replacements that mafia had to deal with, for example... the DrH/DP swap in particular was just insanely townfavoured It does not matter at all how experienced she is. Putting fresh thoughts in the qt/blue hunting can still help you. Maybe you wouldn't even consciously notice it. I don't deny that the replacements (the DP one above all) were unfair to scum but this is game ruining nonetheless. I signed up to a setup with 5 scum players. I feel like the replacements effected the game a lot more than she did, even though I understand it should've never happened in the first place and understand the protests in that sense. That might be true. But those things have absolutely nothing to do with each other and making more mistakes that favor different factions does not make it acceptable. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:30 GMT
#10028
On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason. yes, like you, lol. you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever. If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play. If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play. He was townread by some and scumread by some. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:33 GMT
#10031
On January 17 2015 21:30 justanothertownie wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason. yes, like you, lol. you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever. If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play. If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play. He was townread by some and scumread by some. You should never fakeclaim as town to get townread btw. If you can't do that without then you are just a bad player. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:34 GMT
#10032
On January 17 2015 21:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:29 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 17 2015 21:21 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:16 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote: one thing before bed: justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 01-16-2015 07:06 PM ET (US) I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this? because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way? It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement. This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game. only if you let them? like there's no reason it should ruin the game for anyone or anything. like, probably HTS shouldn't have just appeared, but the fact I gave it literally zero real thought showed the extent to which it affected anything. A newbie shadow in the QT had far less effect on the game than the constant replacements that mafia had to deal with, for example... the DrH/DP swap in particular was just insanely townfavoured It does not matter at all how experienced she is. Putting fresh thoughts in the qt/blue hunting can still help you. Maybe you wouldn't even consciously notice it. I don't deny that the replacements (the DP one above all) were unfair to scum but this is game ruining nonetheless. I signed up to a setup with 5 scum players. I feel like the replacements effected the game a lot more than she did, even though I understand it should've never happened in the first place and understand the protests in that sense. That might be true. But those things have absolutely nothing to do with each other and making more mistakes that favor different factions does not make it acceptable. I agree, that's not what I mean. It's just that you said it shouldn't be in the database and all that when I feel on a game-impact scale it had a minor if not zero effect. I said this when I thought HTS had nothing to do with this game at all. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:37 GMT
#10034
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:38 GMT
#10036
On January 17 2015 21:37 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 17 2015 21:29 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 17 2015 21:21 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:16 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 11:36 marvellosity wrote: one thing before bed: justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted 01-16-2015 07:06 PM ET (US) I will second that. What are they thinking? And why are Artanis and marv accepting this? because HTS seemed to be a newbie shadow and had no effect on anything, so why would it matter to us in any way? It didn't look that way when DP presented it in the obs qt. I think it should have been weird to you especially since artanis had shadows of his own who did not post in there (?) but I guess I take back the quoted statement. This is still completely unacceptable for the hosts to do. Even if she did not affectthe game at all which noone will ever be able to know things like this still ruin the game. only if you let them? like there's no reason it should ruin the game for anyone or anything. like, probably HTS shouldn't have just appeared, but the fact I gave it literally zero real thought showed the extent to which it affected anything. A newbie shadow in the QT had far less effect on the game than the constant replacements that mafia had to deal with, for example... the DrH/DP swap in particular was just insanely townfavoured It does not matter at all how experienced she is. Putting fresh thoughts in the qt/blue hunting can still help you. Maybe you wouldn't even consciously notice it. I don't deny that the replacements (the DP one above all) were unfair to scum but this is game ruining nonetheless. I signed up to a setup with 5 scum players. I feel like the replacements effected the game a lot more than she did, even though I understand it should've never happened in the first place and understand the protests in that sense. That might be true. But those things have absolutely nothing to do with each other and making more mistakes that favor different factions does not make it acceptable. I agree, that's not what I mean. It's just that you said it shouldn't be in the database and all that when I feel on a game-impact scale it had a minor if not zero effect. I said this when I thought HTS had nothing to do with this game at all. fwiw, if like DP had appeared in the QT making the occasional comment, i'd have definitely wondered what was going on. I knew several players had shadows, though, and I knew HTS was a newbie, so I just assumed that's what it was. So in that fashion the experience of HTS was relevant (as to one of your posts above) Stop justifying yourself. The only one I am still angry at is the host. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:43 GMT
#10038
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:44 GMT
#10039
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:52 GMT
#10046
On January 17 2015 21:49 GlowingBear wrote: It was completely obvious that marv and damdred were mafia together when marv completely ignored my meta on him but attacked my meta on KSC (which was extremely weak, I should have not posted it once I realised it was weak while doing it). I should have noticed it. Again, this is a great game for learning. There are some points in Artanis play that makes him scum but was overlooked (the fluff posts in example) and some meta points. But saying that town was a complete shit and that is why scum won is a demerit to scum. They have played incredibly well. I think that the most important lesson in this game is that Overall Gameplay is much more important than vote counts and everything It's less the fluff posts and more the switch off super day2 and the ridiculous push for obvious town Palmar day5. There is no way town Artanis does not see that Palmar is clearly town that day. Worst lynch in a long time. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 12:58 GMT
#10050
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:01 GMT
#10053
On January 17 2015 21:58 GlowingBear wrote: I just couldn't see town palmar agreeing to lynch damdred, scumreading marv, but voting LM with marv and refusing to lynch damdred. You couldn't see town Palmar after he worked his ass off solving the game and being town all day? Staying up at ungodly times after saying he was definitely going to bed? You couldn't see how convenient it was for scum to start pushing Palmar AFTER he went to bed? | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:04 GMT
#10054
On January 17 2015 22:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:58 justanothertownie wrote: That's the only positive thing about this game. I think I learned a few things about the scumplay of super, marv, artanis and damdred. I honestly wouldn't be able to discern a motivated scumgame of mine from a towngame other than the pushing of a mafia agenda I did this game, and that was only because of how strong the townreads on me were that allowed me this luxury. Had people nullread me or if they were suspicious of me, I would probably have never pushed Palmar. Maybe I learned the least about you. But there are most definitely things that I picked up about the other 3. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:09 GMT
#10057
On January 17 2015 22:07 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 21:33 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:30 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason. yes, like you, lol. you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever. If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play. If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play. He was townread by some and scumread by some. You should never fakeclaim as town to get townread btw. If you can't do that without then you are just a bad player. I dont think thats what he means. I remember I did it mostly to catch super. I did do that Super did not need to be caught. He was obviously mafia. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:10 GMT
#10059
On January 17 2015 22:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 22:04 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 22:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On January 17 2015 21:58 justanothertownie wrote: That's the only positive thing about this game. I think I learned a few things about the scumplay of super, marv, artanis and damdred. I honestly wouldn't be able to discern a motivated scumgame of mine from a towngame other than the pushing of a mafia agenda I did this game, and that was only because of how strong the townreads on me were that allowed me this luxury. Had people nullread me or if they were suspicious of me, I would probably have never pushed Palmar. Maybe I learned the least about you. But there are most definitely things that I picked up about the other 3. I'd actually like to hear what you learned about me, and it's not to gloat as I'm actually curious to the difference in order to get a better view of my game in general. I think I might also have been a little more detached from the game, not too rushed with finding things out left and right and a few joking posts at times when town would be frustrated and trying to figure out the game hard. If you think that I will share my findings before I am able to use them at least once then you are crazy ^_- | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:12 GMT
#10061
On January 17 2015 22:11 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 22:09 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 22:07 sicklucker wrote: On January 17 2015 21:33 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:30 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason. yes, like you, lol. you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever. If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play. If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play. He was townread by some and scumread by some. You should never fakeclaim as town to get townread btw. If you can't do that without then you are just a bad player. I dont think thats what he means. I remember I did it mostly to catch super. I did do that Super did not need to be caught. He was obviously mafia. well people still voted gerit over him when me and two or 3 mafia voted super so apparently not So did your cop claim change anything about that? Nope. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:23 GMT
#10063
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:38 GMT
#10066
01-04-2015 03:35 PM ET (US) Oh, I didn't know that. Guess you're right. 217 Half the SkyPerson was signed in when posted 01-04-2015 03:20 PM ET (US) I understand what your objective was in /m215, but I don't know if given the OP that is viable, it doesn't look like it. 216 Half the SkyPerson was signed in when posted 01-04-2015 03:18 PM ET (US) I don't understand. OP: Doctor: 1. Not notified of anything. Saves one save per night, cannot save self or same target twice consecutively. Save is 100%, there is no stacking KP to dodge a doctor save. .... | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 13:39 GMT
#10067
On January 17 2015 22:35 GlowingBear wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 22:01 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 21:58 GlowingBear wrote: I just couldn't see town palmar agreeing to lynch damdred, scumreading marv, but voting LM with marv and refusing to lynch damdred. You couldn't see town Palmar after he worked his ass off solving the game and being town all day? Staying up at ungodly times after saying he was definitely going to bed? You couldn't see how convenient it was for scum to start pushing Palmar AFTER he went to bed? After I strong scumread damdred? No Marv also stayed up, deadline is horrible to him. No, marv did not. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 14:25 GMT
#10076
On January 17 2015 23:13 sicklucker wrote: While I was scum read by 1 or 2 tin foil hat users at a time throughout the game I was a pretty solid #1 or #2 consensus town for the entire game. But this will never work like that again and those 1 or 2 tin foil hat users may very well cost you the game. Seriously, don't ever do something like this again as town. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 14:34 GMT
#10078
On January 17 2015 23:29 Damdred wrote: I doubt your findings are going to mean much JAT I will probably never try hard again at least for a long time. Well sorta TBH I think part of gbs meta on me is wrong because I ws telling the truth about trying to quit metaing him and stop using quote cases. We will see about that. You better hope that you don't end up on the same scumteam as me then. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 14:41 GMT
#10080
On January 17 2015 23:36 Damdred wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 23:34 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 23:29 Damdred wrote: I doubt your findings are going to mean much JAT I will probably never try hard again at least for a long time. Well sorta TBH I think part of gbs meta on me is wrong because I ws telling the truth about trying to quit metaing him and stop using quote cases. We will see about that. You better hope that you don't end up on the same scumteam as me then. If I end up with you JAT i'd try really hard because I know you do. But yea this was just really tiring and I don't want to see scum for a couple games in my pm I can understand that. I was completely exhausted after heavyweight. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 14:45 GMT
#10082
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 14:49 GMT
#10087
On January 17 2015 23:45 Hapahauli wrote: Geezus christ this is 500 pages long. And it is only a 21 player game. Didn't you say some stuff about you doing certain things if someone showed you a 30 page scum filter btw.? | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 14:57 GMT
#10090
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 15:01 GMT
#10093
On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 15:11 GMT
#10098
On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia. The way I see this is that you will try to manage this and get scumread for it. Then you will have to post more anyways to not get lynched. Or you will have to post more to get the lynch you want naturally. And if you do that you will have to cut all those little unimportant posts that can also show that you are town. This is not the best idea you ever had. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 15:12 GMT
#10099
On January 18 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote: On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia. I think your push on Lazer at the end actually looked a lot like Townmarv. If you could copy that as scum before you're in mortal danger it'd actually be quite hard to discern your alignment. You are telling me townmarv who is left alive by scum for some unknown reason constantly tunnels on the same lynchbaity player for the last days? No fucking way. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 15:15 GMT
#10102
On January 18 2015 00:14 marvellosity wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote: On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote: On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote: On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote: On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia. The way I see this is that you will try to manage this and get scumread for it. Then you will have to post more anyways to not get lynched. Or you will have to post more to get the lynch you want naturally. And if you do that you will have to cut all those little unimportant posts that can also show that you are town. This is not the best idea you ever had. don't you remember hogwarts? Yes, I do. But you smurfed in hogwarts which is an important difference. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 15:21 GMT
#10109
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 16:06 GMT
#10130
On January 18 2015 00:27 Palmar wrote: Also I don't understand why people are so resistant to advice. I am not a great mafia player, but I have played more than just about anyone here (maybe with VE as an exception). When I say shit, it's not because I like spouting random nonsense, it's because trial and error, in addition with what I learned from people who played before, has taught me that despite anecdotal evidence (hey look, this worked once), there are certain things that are generally good or bad to do. Some examples:
There's probably a ton more. I keep saying these things, and we keep failing on them. I somewhat disagree with point 1 but it is situational. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 16:08 GMT
#10131
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justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 17 2015 16:16 GMT
#10133
On January 18 2015 01:13 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On January 18 2015 01:08 justanothertownie wrote: Like if I have doubts about both wagons then I WILL push the scumread I am more confident on and I don't think that is wrong at all. Sure, but you have to understand what you're losing. I guess the main problem is people voting too late. Like there needs to be a compelling reason to actually votswitch. None of these I listed is a hard and fast rule, the problem is that everyone thinks they're the unique snowflake the rules don't apply to. If you use hours 36-48 to decide the actual lynch, close to 100% of the people in town get to help make that choice. if you only use hours 44-48 to do it, you're cutting off a significant portion of town. Back in the day, late deadlines (US deadlines), were much more common than they are now. And towns would sometimes impose "soft" deadlines on themselves to make sure you include everyone in the process. Basically "we're not changing the lynch after this unless there's a massively good reason to". That's all really nice in theory but many people won't even defend themselves properly before it is really late. And the closer you get to the deadline the more obvious scum gets usually. | ||
justanothertownie
16236 Posts
January 18 2015 18:50 GMT
#10182
On January 19 2015 03:32 IAmRobik wrote: I'm upset. I called out the play and then just tr'ed all the scum. Vivax, I'm disappointed in you though. You played that one day so poorly Which of the first 5 days are you talking about? | ||
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