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I'm guessing you'll need more naughty nurse pics hunh. You're so clingy Marv give me some space. | ||
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On December 30 2014 04:25 GlowingBear wrote: Damdy, you'll probably be as good as me as a coach. But you can't deny that there are better suited players here to coach the newbies (Artanis; marv, JAT). You still very good bby Rsoultin, I'm completely okay. Go TEAMbear!! Ahem. | ||
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On December 31 2014 14:22 Damdred wrote: Why do you care so much that they aren't here when you could be interacting more with myself and Eden who are obviously here Because I can read them better than any of you and I'm far more concerned with them being town than you being town. | ||
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On December 31 2014 14:27 Damdred wrote: cause of mine and geripts history where he takes mee a bit to serious at points. Like he told me to post seals one time and I did and he went a bit nuts was a bit funny. I think he was scum that game but I think he would do the same as town. Mental note. | ||
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On December 31 2014 14:54 sicklucker wrote: Mspaint. and No. So like a scum dandred wont make a midnight opening joke post about him being mafia. Like who starts a mafia game at midnight. Scum would be more inclined to lurk untill tomorrow. Im getting a slight town read from it. Dont see how you can get a strong read either way as in to like vote him. Awkward start of the game votes at the first thing they read piss me off. You'll find with most vets, that votes early on really don't mean shit. As far as I'm concerned his unfunny joke is slightly scummy, but nothing I terribly care about. Besides, he's fun to vote for. As for lurking vs not lurking, that's just dumb. He'll post as scum whenever he wants. IIRC he usually tries to get in early as scum but he does that as town too. How lurky or not lurky he is within the first 5 minutes isn't something I'd consider even partially useful for reading him or anyone else. Sidenote to scum: You should probably shoot Damdred. There's like a 40% chance that he's the cop. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:20 Eden1892 wrote: i don't, why do you? i feel like i can just look at a particular situation and decide for myself if someone who was caught lying was town and trying too hard to do something cool or if they're mafia. and i'm putting all my votes on my best mafia read not on any policy. just peeking at the setup real quick i'm almost positive this isn't going to be an issue, not seeing anything to game not to be rude but this all seems obvious to the point of fluff... i rather just put all my votes on best mafia read and attempt to discern b/t town lurkers and mafia lurkers as the game goes along instead of making activity a point of interest. i don't worry about them until i get a vote record unless i'm really stumped verdict: Doc's post seems stiff and awkwardly timed, and I feel like most of the policy discussion that might ensue from this won't really get anywhere, but it beats chasing people up trees for opening game banter. I guess I like Doc as town for now I'm going to go ahead and shut down this line right now. Maybe you get a point for being zealous, but not really. I've played and read a number of games w/ DrH. He doesn't care how discussion gets started up, he just wants the ball to get rolling. He hasn't played in a while. I don't think his post makes him town or scum. It's a bland boring useless post for the most part, but it's one that used to be a more standard way of opening games. I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:27 geript wrote: I'm more concerned about how you find a post that is "stiff and awkwardly timed," two traits that are more often considered mafia tells, towny? Can you explain that more fully? It's also pretty weird that you reasonably correctly point out that his post is going nowhere while simultaneously responding to it. @Eden Explain. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:35 Eden1892 wrote: just checking, it seemed like a joke but i didn't want to supply that answer in case it weren't~ sure, i'm not sure what you meant by "shut down this line" in the previous part of the post btw so if you want a reply to that please clarify for my addled brain as for why i read it townie, like i said, it seemed like an effort to get discussion somewhere besides early-game banter, which imo wasn't going anywhere. i followed up on the post because even if the object-level discussion ends up being pretty pointless, i can get some possibly useful meta-level reads from it - and hey, maybe it is going somewhere and i miss it, y'know? By shut it down, I mean shut down any further discussion on useless policy. Nobody needs to find policy to find discussion. The problem with your "townread" is that your reasons for finding him town are complete bullshit. That post is a throwaway post that I could recite to newbies to "get discussion going" as either alignment and potentially useful dependent on how it's driven and moved (even moreso to scum imo not that it matters). There actually were things to be talked about in the thread already (my townread on Damdred, the ??? on sicklucker who IIRC also made a passing townread on Damdred, Robik not posting anything while making a few posts, etc.). It's odd that you comment that his post was stiff and awkwardly timed, two bad reasons that people's posts are often called scummy for and then settle on a bad reason to call him town for it. As for meta reads, what type of meta reads do you expect will lead to any sort of meaningful read off of policy discussion? | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote: What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum? @Damdred. Here's your check baby boy. | ||
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On December 31 2014 15:55 sicklucker wrote: Like I thought it was weird that geript is suggesting hes gonna put in the effort to get a meta weird on me so early when I have done nothing scummy. (I made a semi joke/vote to vote) to mock his one. Like this could mean anything just pointing this out for someone whos played with him alot. It's ok babygirl. I've never meta'd anyone ever before. You'll be getting my meta v-card. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote: He just did post his own conclusions on geript lol. Why are you so on peoples nuts this early, you're treating everythinf like you're 5 minutes away from posting some earth shattering case That's because Eden keeps on coming across as more and more scummy the more he posts. Plus it's kinda what I do. | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:41 ritoky wrote: also he immediately wants to discuss lynching lurkers, and anyone who has played with me before knows the statistic i cite so frequently: 86% of the time the first person to start suggesting lynching lurkers is mafia. I'm pretty sure that I've been the first person to discuss lurker lynches in almost all of my games (a large majority of which are town). 86% of your statistic is bullshit. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:10 Eden1892 wrote: Ooh, my turn. Earlier, geript, you had some issues with my posting about Doc's policy discussion instead of about your reads, and had criticized my choice of focus on Doc's policy discussion. Now that ritoky, sicklurker(?) and I have, through different avenues of discussion, concluded that Doc is suspicious, you chose to reenter the thread to... critique a statistic tied to a minor point against Doc. Of the recent developments surrounding Doc in the thread right now, why is this your choice of focus? It strikes me as self-evidently going nowhere. Because I hate it when people who have literally been useless try to throw out things that are wildly inaccurate to try and make a point. Especially when it's something I hold sacred like statistics. As for ritoky, no clue. I can't really read him. I think he was scum in an abortion of a game. I'll check later when I meta sicklucker. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Thanks buddy Lol. You probably wouldn't like the reasons for the read. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:25 TheChyz wrote: Also haven't played in a while but I remember geript very well and all of the poking he is doing lines up the same with how I remember him (as in being fairly strong town) so he is also on my town read. I don't really think I have enough of a read on the others for anything atm I understand the thought process but that's not a very good reason to find me town. Look at Russian mafia. I was ballin as scum before a partner and the broken setup ruined it. Fwiw I coupldve saved that game and been the hero town deserved still if I hadn't listened to palmer. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Youre both scum. Geript pretends to like me as a cute joke but je HATES the way I play. I can't understand half of what he ever says and if he isn't already tilting at what a stupid jerk ive been then something is very wrong. Maybe he found god. Maybe he realized I am that gosu. But it doesn't fit. Everyone pokes and is always poking. If you're posting right now thats what you've been doing in a sense. I hope you can just quickly clarify if I'm misunderstanding something. Meh. Gotta bury the hatchet sometime. I know you were good. Less so when you played less. Meh is what it is. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:53 TheChyz wrote: Does anybody else find it strange that after making that case on my and my "garbage" read and all that that when dr.H finally mans up and says that I'm 100% scum and basically will do anything to get me lynched and the proceeds to just leave it at that. No vote, nothing. Seems like he just wants to start a bullshit case on me and hope others latch on. If nothing happens he will probs just drop it. Really scummish to me. Anybody else have opinions on dr.H? Yah. He's like 85% town and you're like 60% confirmation biased tunneling. Still waiting for Marv, Artanis and Palmer. | ||
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On December 31 2014 18:23 Koshi wrote: Eden didn't look too good early. Something with saying Dr.H. is town after making a big "I don't like this about Dr.H." post and then in his next post Eden is back to Dr.H. is scummy. I'll look into TheChyz after some coffee and work. <3 I feel a lot better that you feel the same way. When you get back let me know what you think of ritoky and Chyz. | ||
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On January 01 2015 00:38 Lazermonkey wrote: I think Robik is scummy for this. Obviously, it was at the very start of the game so its not the strongest of reads BUT I know I did a very similar thing in another game, i.e. saying something of absolutely no substance early on in the game to indicative that I was in fact active, and then just afk. I was scum that game. Why not say that I did the same thing with Marv in Russian? | ||
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On January 01 2015 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: ??? Is Marv 100% mafia or not? Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry. That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons? 100% as in I've never read him wrong as town. As for mafia or not, idk for sure yet. He is the only vet that I'm not leaning town on currently. We can be friends Artanis, but watch out after I flip people will call you scummy for buddying me. Best to leave that vote where it is wink wink. | ||
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Actually, after reading/thinking about Koshi. I think I'm going to move him back into null. | ||
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On January 01 2015 01:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: At the risk of sounding like a broken record, Why? Because it was mostly based off of him feeling Eden off initially. It's something that's harder to do as mafia and he posted ok-ish reasons. To some extent I even "got" why he suspected me. But when I read his 2-page filter (first page is really setup), there's nothing I find particularly insightful or Marv-lite how I remember him playing as town. Plus, I'm kinda scared because I think my past two games with him I've town read him for bad reasons and been wrong both times. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:03 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Like, everyone's jumping down on his throat and he starts his post with "I don't like how Koshi entered the thread" which is pretty much the only person that really defended him. I've called him town twice so far I think. But shhhh, don't tell those people who think I'm mafia. It could look bad for me. | ||
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Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. | ||
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On January 01 2015 02:22 geript wrote: @Artanis. What do you think of sicklucker, Eden and Kelsier? I think those are the best overall flips. Ritoky could maybe be tossed in there too. Do you disagree with the following: Artanis, DrH, Chyz, Damdred I feel like I'm forgetting someone from this list but oh well. @Marv You can answer this since Artanis is mia. | ||
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On January 01 2015 03:59 sicklucker wrote: Like thats possibly 3 towns.. Wheres that meta case on me you promised. I didn't promise a case. I just planned to meta you at some point today. I'll probably run to the store and grab some beers and maybe do it tonight. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote: Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Geript you asked me about 3 people earlier, one of them was sicklucker then you never really got back to the post after I mentioned he escaped me. Was there anything about him that you found of note? I'm scrolling through his filter and it's not bad. I find how much he holds onto the expected meta case a bit weird and wasn't sure what to think of it. That and I don't feel like spending an hour to read 4 other games when he only has a 2 page filter. Plus I don't want to go back and have to figure out his usual post count and content per day. | ||
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On January 01 2015 05:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote: want me to just post all my town and null reads until then? you have very little to say about the case and now you're just trying to make me shut up. Nah, I'm just tired of hitting refresh and seeing yet another wall of text on Chyz. Especially when I think he's town so I probably won't get around to reading it until after new years. Especially when a decent number are quotes of a bad case on him. Especially when it means that I ahve to go back and vet each and every thing especially in context of the thread. My point is that what you're doing hurts my ability to read the thread and your ability to push Chyz. Plus, it's super exceptionally tunnely that started off of a bunch of bad points; that's reads like confirmation bias more than anything else. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Alright, let's reconstruct this. I believe it started here: Geript replies 10 minutes later asking if he only played town before, then asks for a link to his previous scumgame which sicklucker declines. Sicklucker then brings it up again later (Geript asks for an opinion from Dr. H in the meantime) after which: Possibly a joke, but it could definitely be interpreted as serious. If he does interpret it as serious I can see someone like sicklucker chasing the bone. Given his pretty proactive game so far I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Is that your only reason for finding him suspect? That and he thinks I'm mafia so I naturally want to kill him. But for the most part yah that's all. While in the shower I realized why I think Marv's mafia. Town!Marv doesn't fear lynch; he definitely doesn't fear lynch on D1. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:12 sicklucker wrote: geript scum list is likely 3 towns so thats another reason Yah, if that's true it wouldn't bode well for me per se. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:44 batsnacks wrote: Mr DrH what do you think about this: First TheChyz posts this: And he earned town points for it: Then later he posts this: And gets more town points: Do you think TheChyz is intentionally rehashing the koshi read to gain town points? Crackpot theory | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Can you explain why he said he was fine with me and thought I was doing good scumhunting when he voted for me and tried to get the thread to turn? Then he says it wasnt serious and omgus votes someone else. If we were both town in a game and i tunneled you relentlessly would you be fine with it and say i was doing a good job? Sure. He can be a newb. He can be mafia. He can just be not very good at mafia. He can be exceptionally easily swayed by the fact that people think he's mafia but is town so they therefore must be mafia. I don't particularly care. I'm not saying that there aren't points that you've made that are scummy or wholly invalid. But when you look at the case of work that he's put out and the facts: he's newer, he's been reasonably uninhibited about posting, he's been under a tunnel for 90% of the game, etc. You're not going to find conclusive evidence there. You need to actually give him time so that people can actually form a valid read on him. I mean, I remember in one of the last games we played together I was in a similar situation. Everyone read me as scummy. I couldn't stop doing scummy things because I had no clue how to not do scummy things. So I just tried to post what I thought when I thought it. Hey btw, I was town and I'm not sure there was a vote on anyone but me that day. Seriously dude, get your head out of your ass. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript doesn't seem to be taking the thread very seriously which makes me think he may be town. Reading his meta it looks like he puts on an effort to appear very productive and focused as mafia. That's a shitty version of meta and you know it. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: So we should ignore newer players? He seemed pretty confident and able to deal with heat in his last game. Plus at the time it was only me, I think only one or two people have agreed to vote with me by this point. It doesn't add up. If you think we should policy ignore newbs or something okay - I don't. I believe in trial by fire, you know that. We'll see what other people have to say about it. How about you offer a better lynch? No I don't think we should ignore newer players. I do think that to get a correct read on them you often need to give them slack and let them hang themselves (or others) with it rather than wrap the noose tight around their necks. I'm fine with trial by fire. But there are productive ways to do that and unproductive ways to do that. Your tunnel is the latter. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I should have known better than to talk to you at all in this game. Someone else can sort you out My point is, if you're going to meta me, then meta me. Most of my mafia games don't look similar in any way to each other and they often tend to highly resemble my town games (in the same era). Plus, just looking at 1 mafia game (Russian I assume) which was the most different from any of my scum games (since The Game) isn't going to give the real insight you need to actually give a decent meta read. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Who do you wanna lynch geript? Got anything besides doubt and jokes? Of the top of my head, Marv maybe. Eden and Kelsier are at the top of my lynch list. But honestly, right now I'd be a bit more tempted to lurker lynch. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:38 Eden1892 wrote: do you ever intend to expound upon these thoughts as I've asked you to do earlier in the thread? At some point yah. But I'd like to have a read on most of the people in the game. There's way too many inactives right now. Maybe when I reread I'll realize I'm being dumb idk. We'll see. | ||
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On January 01 2015 09:06 sicklucker wrote: Then how come 3 of your posts were. I just want to talk to marv palmer etc. It made the rest of us feel pretty excluded. Any who happy new years no sober posting past this point Because I have fun playing with them usually. | ||
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On January 01 2015 06:13 geript wrote: That and he thinks I'm mafia so I naturally want to kill him. But for the most part yah that's all. While in the shower I realized why I think Marv's mafia. Town!Marv doesn't fear lynch; he definitely doesn't fear lynch on D1. To Marv. | ||
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On December 31 2014 20:55 marvellosity wrote: yeah NYE is a terrible time to start in the end. I am a bit suspicious of geript too, but I don't know if it's because he's actually scummy. His wanting a bunch of ppl to turn up because he's so good at reading them reminds me of Russia Today where he said very similar things about being good town and being able to read certain people. but maybe he can do it as town also, just i haven't seen anything else to make me think he's town this game. tbc. This is part of it. Wait maybe I'm being dumb. Maybe he can only fear lynch me if he's town. It's cutting out my reading, but you were quite impressed with my scumplay last game. *brushes shoulders off* So what you've raised the bar for reading me town; which btw is illogical because I would've been townread in Russian despite you raising the bar but eh. You better be town dear or I've just out thunk myself. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:33 marvellosity wrote: lol is your argument that I called you suspicious (without knowing if i thought you were scummy) in order to later push a lynch on you in case you caught me? is that really it? It has to do with your mentality at the time. Initially I thought ScumMarv would want to push me (for funsies). But reading into what you're thinking is kinda how I read you. | ||
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On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote: I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. | ||
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On January 02 2015 04:59 DoctorHelvetica wrote: im a hypocrite and a jerk with questionable reading comprehension let's go lynch geript I'm actually more concerned with your ability to read the game and read people with objectivity. | ||
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FWIW I think he was one of the few to actually read me town too. That's not exactly a great mark for him either. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why did you omgus a null read again? Your explanation just made it seem like you decided marv was mafia before anything happened i.e. fake read Who are you talking to and what about? | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. | ||
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It's quite possible that I just decided Marv was mafia because he felt off. Meh. Wouldn't be the first time I've jumped to conclusions. That said, his list is awful. | ||
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Because you're way off track and usually get worse as the game goes on. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote: don't like this list: people i don't want to lynch for some reason: 1; Koshi 4; Artanis[XP] 6; Marvellosity 7; justanothertownie 8; IAmRobik 10; Palmar 11; Damdred 15; KelsierSC 17; DoctorHelvetica 18; Eden1892 Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up: 5; Lazermonkey 9; TheChyz Wat r u doing 2; GlowingBear 14; Vivax 19; RebirthOfLeGenD 20; Superbia Some PoE title: 3; Geript 12; batsnacks 13; sicklucker 16; ritoky I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff. Look Here's my specific issues with the list. I'm in PoE, which I guess is explainable. Batsnacks idk. Haven't seen traps but as I recall he hasn't really be doing much of anything. When I reread sicklucker I think he might be town. I forget why, but it wasn't terribly memorable. Bat/rit both feel like coin flips instead of solid PoE targets. Plus, he's got Eden and kelsier as town. Kelsier might be when I reread him before crashing last night, but Eden's in a weird spot. I don't think Eden's town. It's even more troublesome that Marv finds Robik to be town. Robik is 0% town. Serioiusly. Town Robik is all over the place. He's aggressive. He does stuff. He pushes opinions. He's an overall jackass (much like myself sometimes). This game Robik doesn't care whatsoever. Robik hasn't posted much and he doesn't care. That's quite definitive of his scumplay. Koshi, he might be town, he might be scum. I'm really unsure because he's so convinced I'm mafia. Maybe it's just me who's exceptionally off this game, but it's really weird that both Koshi and Marv haven't picked up on or pushed Robik. It's really weird that Koshi comes in and thinks Eden is bad and then thinks he gets better. He started bad and then goes into lala land. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:41 marvellosity wrote: damdred read is thin, but he's trying enough for me not to wanna go near lynching him today. i can't imagine the world where i decide to lynch Damdred today, which is what that list is essentially saying Nah, Damdreds town. I'd stake 45% of my reputation on it. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:37 marvellosity wrote: feeling really good about it actually. is attacking me your only way out at this stage? is jat scum for agreeing with my list in its entirety? Lynch Marv Final answer. Marv is mafia. Never been wrong before boys. Never will. | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:43 marvellosity wrote: your first paragraph is terrible especially, because it essentially describes the exact reasons that batsnacks and sicklucker have arrived there sicklucker isn't memorable and batsnacks isn't doing anything, and you can't see why they've made it to that list? for realsies? I can see that argument, but I remember getting a townread on sick. I think it had to do with something newbs usually do as town. Bat is maybe ok for no traps. The town list is actually far more damning in my opinion. There's no way you have a townread on Robik. Absolutely not. It also really bugs me that the town pile you've created is essentally a group of sycophants for you and Koshi right now other than perhaps Artanis. | ||
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Here's a tl;dr version that people need to sheep: 1. Read on Robik is fucking terrible. Robik is scum 2. No interactions with Koshi--normally these two are absolutely fucking hilarious to play with 3. Not fun; little to no sarcasm, wit, or fun factor that makes Marv fun to play with 4. Wouldn't read me like he does. He'd be more scared to lynch into me (looking elsewhere first) and less sure on his read on me. 5. Marv wouldn't fear lynch on D1 6. Really fucking terrible list post. @Artanis, Palmer and Doc. Look at Marv. He's not right. Doc get your head screwed on straight and actually think about the game critically. I'm pretty sure your read on Chyz is wrong. Town: Artanis[XP]--Not as active as I'd like. But I'm prettty sure he's town DoctorHelvetica--Way off track Palmar--First time he's read me wrong as town. lolz TheChyz--He's just new. But he's town. Damdred--He's town. But force him to post a bunch tomorrow because he notices some good things here and there justanothertownie sicklucker--I initially had him below this in the unsure pile. But I had a townread on him when I read him before I slept. Cursory view of his meta points towards town; that said, it's not wholly applicable because of different game situations imo. Unsure but active pile: batsnacks--of these two, bat is the most likely to be mafia. KelsierSC--felt towny but i forget why GTFO: RebirthOfLeGenD Superbia Vivax GlowingBear Mafia lean: Eden1892--Went ham but not fully ham. Then drops ham and never goes back to ham land. Really odd start. ritoky -- He townread me at a weird point. His read on Robik was pretty weird. Marv wants to lynch him but doesn't really follow up on it. Koshi --Could be wrong here Mafia: Marvellosity IAmRobik Lazermonkey--From a cursory view of his past 3-4 games | ||
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On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:03 justanothertownie wrote: Noone in this game ever gives reasons for his read on me. No reasons necessary bbycakes. Granted I think I said the same thing last time and you were mafia but meh. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:06 Koshi wrote: Why is Kelsier suddenly town geript? You had him as top mafia and now he is town but you forgot why? I read his filter again. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:23 marvellosity wrote: i don't think town-geript bullshits reasons on multiple people on my list if he is town. Your list is bad and you should feel bad for posting it. | ||
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On January 02 2015 06:30 Palmar wrote: To be honest. There is more. I am town. Therefore geript must be mafia for TMI. How else would he know I'm town? No, we've had some town on town action recently. | ||
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Because I had to get you to listen to my nightkills so we could actually win this time. Plus, no modkill would help. You think Superbia will post today or will he be replaced instead of modkilled? | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:57 marvellosity wrote: because he's a newish player and he's under this humungous tunnel and he's playing the game alone, not with a team. that's the other, very plausible, read. You mean a point I've made multiple times. | ||
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On January 02 2015 08:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Can i restate the point that the chyz has lied over and over again? Not a single person has engaged me on this. If im wrong just fucking refute me Can I restate the fact that you've entirely wasted day 1 seemingly on purpose. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote: Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript. Seems interesting. Maybe I should pay more attention right now. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:29 Palmar wrote: geript isn't even trying to defend himself. No matter his alignment now he should be lynched. If he is town this is rubbish play. This post is complete bullshit. The only reason he's in trouble is because he's not contributing to the game when he could have. There are 20 people in the game and no one is batting an eye because some players have less activity than normal. there is a reason that 19 people are not getting lynched and geript is. It's because what he has done this game amounts to basically nothing. In this kind of a situation, any town player will find the motivation to defend himself. He's hardly even attempting to do it. We need to kill him. And if he actually flips town, we need to call him bad postgame, because this kind of defense is basically unacceptable. All he had to do was to engage with a few people controlling the lynch, most importantly me, and change the read, but it's almost as if he doesn't think he can do it. There are only two options here. #1: geript thinks he's just terrible at town, has no ability to convince people, and is willing to sabotage town based on his incompetence. #2: geript is mafia and thinks he won't be able to imitate his town style in prolonged interrogation. I actually think geript has both confidence, and that he always plays to win. This defeatist attitude does not fit at all, so I'm hoping that option 2 is the one that is true and he simply has given up trying to fight the lynch. Vivax is a very, very good candidate for being mafia. I have no problem with people going after him. You're missing the situation. though. ##vote Vivax | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm ok with both lynches tbh. It kinda sucks to have two martyrs and only one noose. Meh I'm not martyring. I'm just not really motivated to play right now and idk why. Like I've posted my best thoughts and the best strategic play for me is to get my points out there. Like I'm the obvious frame target so that means that any cop check on me is pretty questionable. So I have to hope that I'm a miller. Or that the cop doesn't come out. Just simpler to get lynched and solve the problem. | ||
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On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote: When you say caught early on do you mean Marvs null read that you flipped over? What im hearing here is you gave up the second you got accused. Its day fucking 1 and the wagon isnt necessarily running roughshod over you. Honestly DrH, you're either being a complete dumbass here today or you're mafia. Like I've told you 20 times. Take a valium. Take 80. Literally all your doing is being an asshole and harassing people. Which fwiw, is his scum meta. If people are curious, look at bluelightz. Listen to the mafia podcasts (he says so himself). I rescind my townread on DrH. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum) If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though. Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am. Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation? I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town. I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3. | ||
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On January 02 2015 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: There are hours left and there are other wagons too. There are a few people who agree with you on vivax, why dont you talk about that instead of flinging shit at me. Apparently you had little problem with me up until right this second and you seem very convinced you will be lynched when I'm not sure anyone saw it that way until you threw a tantrum just now If they didn't see that I had about a 60% chance of being lynched as of idk 18 hours into the game, then they're just bad at reading the tone and temper of the game. When you have 5 or so Vets wiling to lynch you and most of them pushing for your lynch, it's pretty obvious how things are going to pan out. | ||
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On January 01 2015 07:23 batsnacks wrote: Do you still think what I posted is a crackpot theory? This post is pretty weird to me. I missed it previously but Bat's theory that Chyz rehashed his Koshi read in order to get people on his side again was crackpot. Why does he ask again? How does that even relate to my response to DrH? It bugs me. | ||
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On January 01 2015 11:15 batsnacks wrote: Doesn't anyone want to talk about reads or something? I know there are ppl here I can see the thread views going up. This bugs me too. Not because he doesn't want to talk, but when Bat comes back to the thread Ritoky had made a list post having Bat as town but he doesn't really care about that post at all. Not definitive but at least worth looking at. | ||
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FWIW, GB and Kelsier are probably both town. Kelsier tied himself to GB in a very towny way. Little reason to do that as mafia. That's two more people cleared out: Town: Koshi GB Damred Kelsier you can look back for the rest. Not sure DrH is actually town any more, good odds of it, but he's a spammy player and he's seemingly been one blind tunnel into the next. At some point usually as town he'd either lose it entirely or take a step back and reconsider things. Marv's still probably scum. Vivax is probably an ok lynch but I'm not actually sold that he'll flip mafia. | ||
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On January 02 2015 14:12 Eden1892 wrote: So geript why the late vote switch? Actually, I had voted for him in thread twice, I just didn't realize there was a voting thread. | ||
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Been half catching up. Not sure if I have D&D tonight so maybe I'll be on all night or not. But yah. A few things I've noticed. First off, there's every reason to move off of me and onto Batsnacks if you're mafia. Take a look at Russian. I semi-organized, semi-let-it-happen a late switch off of Damdred iirc and onto someone else (a lurker maybe). It sent town into a huge tizzy and Damdred likely would've been the lynch the next day regardless of Rayn getting modkilled. There's a bunch of reason to keep me around as mafia. You can get cop to out with a red check (a double boon). You get a freebie mislynch. I think there's actually pretty good odds that there's 2 mafia on Batsnacks, 1 on me, 1 not on main wagons and 1 anywhere. On January 02 2015 14:02 Alakaslam wrote: I kount vot and stahp it ritoky (1): TheChyz (2): DoctorHelvetica (0): geript (5): marvellosity (0): Lazermonkey (0): IAmRobik (0): sicklucker (1): ritoky Vivax (3): Koshi, geript, Glowingbear Batsnacks (7): Justanothertownie, Eden1892, DoctorHelvetica, Artanis[XP], Damdred, sickl6ucker, IAmRobik Not Voting: folks batsnacks is lynched. until deadline. There are a few interesting things to note. Despite most everyone reading Koshi as town and calling his points on Vivax valid. Almost no one sheeped that. That's actually quite odd as he's quite a good player. Artanis switching to Batsnacks might not be awful; he had solid enough reasons to reason that I'm not mafia. The question though is why are other people switching. Palmer and Marv both want me dead. DrH wants me dead; he'd love to shoot Chyz. But he ends up Batsnacks seemingly out of nowhere. Ritoky only voted once but wants to lynch sicklucker for "hammering" Batsnacks. Superbia is likely either medic or mafia. So far from what I've read of Vivax he hasn't really had his oddball town way of looking at things. I'll double check when I get back, but he's a good flip for Koshi's reasons too. The mafia on me is likely LazerM. Marv might actually be town; I really don't know. I waffle on him something good. I'm not sure who or where the fifth is. Kinda lost and need to reread and shit. But from filtering this is where I'm at now. | ||
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On January 03 2015 14:49 IAmRobik wrote: fuck no. eden was like 1000x more towny than koshi. Eden was the towniest town that ever towned in this town I see you're still being useless and wrong. | ||
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On January 03 2015 14:50 justanothertownie wrote: Koshi was the most obvious nightkill there ever was. Not that it matters now that they are dead. It makes my medic read a decent shot to be right fwiw. | ||
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On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote: He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him? This is patently untrue. I didn't realize there was a voting thread. If you follow my filter I voted in thread twice for vivax. Just consider my vote in thread the point at which it would've been in placed in the voting thread. Robik looks terrible but he has 11 pages. Him town reading Eden would be consistent with the NK on him if he's mafia. But he's a real pussy as mafia. I haven't read each Vivax post in depth. But from what I've seen today his unique point of view. Rather he's making bad but logical arguments. That's his scum meta where he loses his unique town perspective. Superbia looks just as bad still. His play actually heavily reminds me of DrH in bluelightz where (as mafia) he super raged for catching heat for being inactive and not voting. It's really out of place. I still think Damdred is town, but he 100% is red or blue. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote: Didn't you say Koshi was the most obvious medic save earlier? How is he a medic dodge now? Because I think he's the obvious save, it doesn't mean that mafia don't consider him a medic dodge. Perhaps they assume Marv/Artanis/Palmer is the obvious save. In a game with Marv/Palmer/Artanis/Koshi as tier 1 kills, I'm guessing they took the medic dodge target. | ||
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On January 04 2015 08:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: List of people I would lynch today if I had enough lynches: Superbia Vivax Geript Robik Maybe GlowingBear too. He's been mentioned a few times as well but no one's actually bothered to check into him as far as I can see. I've read gb. Thought he was town. I'll look back into him. Iirc he's sporadic in activity as either alignment. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript why havent you voted for vivax yet He's a good lynch from the things I've read about him, but I haven't actually directly read his filter myself. I might end up disagreeing and looking for a better lynch elsewhere. I just want to actually evaluate who I've voting for. Just because Koshi and others have had good points on Vivax doesn't make them right. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:36 Superbia wrote: Already talked about ritoky and lazer. Geript feels the exact same as the last game I played in (where he was mafia): 1. Starts off tryhard and gets serious very quickly like he has something to prove. 2. Pretty much a non-agenda during d1. Says a bunch of somewhat townie shit, but pushes on nothing. 3. Then tunnels on a vet (marv now, HF then). Also HARD READS marv mafia, after which he just votes batsnacks (which he didn't even believe in, whatsoever) followed by vivax out of nowhere, the two other wagons. He never votes marv, HIS HARD SCUM READ. Then the whole non self-preservation vote debacle, which has been discussed. I believe the self-preservation vote was unnecessary because he had team mates riding the vote train read to switch over if necessary (using the incredibly bad excuse dubbed "shenanigans"). SickLucker loves to focus on himself when he's town (played with him in campus mafia, where he was town and I was mafia), which he has not done this game at all. I'm not a 100% sure if he has changed up his gameplay or what, but I'm expecting town SL to call himself confirmed town every 3 posts, usually based on something ridiculous. This game has been completely different from his town game. Like the guy literally says I wasted my vote when he is scum-reading ritoky himself. What? Also associative read if geript is scum (which I believe). This is 100% flat out a false explanation of my play in Russian. There's huge differences in my play there and here. Not just in activity but also in purpose. I made huge pushes on multiple days and nights and kept town completely off kilter in Russian. I made a case on Damdred, HF, major points on Marv, case on SnoMan which forced him to claim. This is basically just completely wrong and misrespresenting my play in Russian and any sort of comparison here. This is exceptionally scummy. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:47 sicklucker wrote: Haha like holy shit I just figured an easy way to confirm people slam messed up Fuck no. Don't use this. Even trying to do this is flat out cheating and I will fucking lynch you and push for you to get a huge fucking ban for this type of shit. This type of shit is totally unacceptable. Not only am I guessing that your system won't actually be correct, but this is the reason why hosts and cohosts shoudl always be very careful about how they post in and out of thread. The game should be about what happens int he game and not about OGI. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:50 sicklucker wrote: I dont think its cheating at all but ill check with slam It is cheating. If it's true, then it's bad of Slam to do. If it's intentional (which I doubt), then it's exceptionally bad form as a host and he should never host again. This is not a theme game; this is a normal (albeit a slightly odd one because of the open setup). You should never ever use OGI (partly because it's wrong sometimes or in the least misinterpreted) but also because it breaks the spirit of the game. It's why there isn't out of thread communication. It's really, really wrong. Seriously stop this shit. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: But his analysis is so shallow. Is that not something that you get whilst reading his filter? It's just.. ugh. Presuming you're green I think it's really unlikely JAT is scum. No reason for him to create a last minute voteswitch onto Bats, WIFOM is a terrible reason as he wasn't exactly in need of towncred. Have you read Russian? That was in part a reason why I was townread in it. I helped switch off of Damdred and helped look for an alternate lynch (as mafia). Prima facie it's a townie move; but it's also very good play as mafia to do it as well. It helps keep town focused on town in stupid ways. JAT in my experience is a much better mafia player than town player; I wouldn't put him past it whatsoever. As for GB's analysis, I haven't ever really seen him have great amazing deep reads on people. I actually don't think his townread on me was awful; if anything, the better argument against him is TMI especially if Vivax is mafia. His response towards the mislynch (Hey I was on Vivax) in addition to they miracle read on me would be better points. | ||
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On January 04 2015 09:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Damdred is always polite Ritoky. Gonna have to check if this is true but I like this observation just for how its developed. My experience is that he's more polite and less active as mafia. It's actually what has me questioning my blue read on him. He actually made a quite interesting point on me that I don't think he would if he were mafia (let me find it). | ||
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On January 02 2015 12:22 Damdred wrote: Heres the problem i'm struggling with, with Geript i've played with him a good amount of times and I have a huge amount of respect for his scum game. But sometimes as town he shows up and really doesn't give a shit (no offense) we have a similar situation in avocado numbers mafia I think was the name and geript barely went down with a whimper, also when he went into fanfic mafia when he replaced in he basically refused to do anything after being scum read. He does have a few really good town games though but i've seen geript just not care, so its really giving me pause here. This is what I'm talking about. I think it was before people were really considering not lynching me. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:05 Superbia wrote: geript, you feel like you have a god-read on Marv right? Why have you been so wishy-washy on him? Partly because I haven't been super motivated this game. Plus, I tend to be thrown off as town when I get a bunch of attention and aren't super try-hard. While my early reads are usually quite good, they're not perfect. And I think the more D1 went on the more on tilt I got and the less interested (and therefore careful). My interactions with him really reminded me of Avogadro's where basically all the vets townread each other, then VE scumread me and essentially we all started scumreading or in the least not trusting each other the way we initially did. So considering the fact that it was NYE and I was more interested in other things (mostly league and an occaisional drink), I just figured it's best to take a clean slate to it. His overall play today feels more objective, snarky and "town marv" I know. But it's also very hard for me to gain objectivity once I've lost it. So I think I'll probably double guess that read all game long and will throw me for a loop regardless of what he flipps. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Geript have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight? I really want to make some snarky comment here about sex, but I just don't have it in me right now. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I am disappoint. So tell me more about how you think I'm mafia bro. ??? I think you're mafia? | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah you've said like twice that "Within this group of 4 random vets is 2 mafia" or something along those lines and my name has been included each time. Why? No I think there's only one between Marv, you, Artanis, Palmer, VE, DrH. Maybe 2, but that's unlikely. Rather look at the NKs. Those are the type of NKs I see when there's a covert vet who's being townread. You need to keep some number of vets alive and time your NKs so that ideally you're the last one standing in an ideal LYLO/MYLO after 2-3 mislynches. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:24 justanothertownie wrote: Many people townread or at least didn't scumread him. Doesn't make it comparable though. And his statement about how my scumgame is better than my towngame suits himself better anyways. And most people townread you well before the lynch. While the point does suit does favor the point I'm making, it also doesn't make it less true. I don't think I've ever seen you hard carry as town. Or be NK'd on D1 by mafia. Whereas I'm pretty sure I've seen you hard carry scum at least a few times. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:31 justanothertownie wrote: You didn't play in even a single one of my scumgames. I hard carried as town before and I have been NK'd night 1 multiple times. Not that this is in any shape or form relevant to this game. I'm pretty sure I've played in 2-3 of your scum games. I don't think I've played or read any game where you've been NK'd N1 and I defenitelly haven't ever seen you hardcarry as town. | ||
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On January 04 2015 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote: Yeah I have no idea what any of your night-kill logic means. That just looks scummy to me breh. So you're saying that my name is on that list not because you think I've done anything mafia, but because you think you've discerned a pattern in the nightkills and the players on the list what, fit that description? That sounds bullshit and made up geript. It's pretty typical mafia play VE. I don't get why you disagree with that. I also don't see why you're making a fuss about your name being on a list of 1 between tehse 5 or so. Wateva bra. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:05 geript wrote: I don't know if I buy SL's claim. Feels like super bad time to claim and I can't imagine anybody claiming there. Well maybe VE, but he's a claim whore. To clarify, if he's actually claiming. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What is your goal for day 2 geript? You wanna lynch marv? You wanna lynch vivax? I would shoot you this instant if i had a choice. My goal is to lynch scum. What's yours? | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Geript has had basically two reads this entire game and done nothing about either. Didnt push marv to save himself, claims vivax seems like a good case but admits he never did his own reading on it. Geript is scum. If anyone had a townread on him tell me why right now yawn. Troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, tunnel, tunnel, troll, tunnel, troll, troll, tunnel, bully, troll, tunnel... Let's be honestly here people. Has DrH done anything that's actually useful or towny other than have a 27 billion page filter? | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Tell me who is scum then. You're avoiding doing anything about your vivax read if i can even call it that. What about marv? Too scared to push it? You're avoiding thinking about the game critically whatsoever. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote: How long until you decide to vote or actually pressure a read? You can't wait forever for a mislynch, might as well bus vivax right now. You might convince an idiot that it would somehow make you look better Oh, so I should bus Vivax hmmm. Funny how you're able to know that Vivax is mafia and I don't. That makes one of us scum. Now who wouldn't know if someone is scum or not. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why are you dodging the questions. You would give me the benefit of the doubt if you were serious. You think I'm scum? You dont have the balls to pressure anybody do you Why do you ask dumb questions that go no where and look worse than a noob? I'd bet that all of your tunnels and reads are wrong; the irony is that I'd still only give you a 50/50 chance on being scum based on that fact alone. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If you were town you wouldn't be surprised by my brashness in the least. You know how I can be, stop dodging the questions. What do you really think of marv and vivax? Who would you lynch right now? As for Vivax, the points against him are pretty good. I've said so multiple times. Perhaps you could have read that in my filter which you should have read at some point if you actually thought I was sooper skum. Otherwise, I haven't read him fully because I'm having way more fun doing other shit and I'm busy listening to the foozball game. Marv I think is town. Perhaps if you had read the thread you'd actually know this. But surprise surprise, you're not actually reading or thinking about anything and yet want to make me look super scummy for not doing so. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why havent you paid more attention to marv and vivax. Whats going on this game that is more important than pushing the lynches you think are good? How is that a dumb noob question? Do you really think you can tilt me It's not hard to tilt a 1 leg stool. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:22 KelsierSC wrote: Yeh he is scummy I agree. just let him give his reads. I want to know what he thinks about the SL claim. He's not let going of it. SL's lacking mental ability if he's actually claiming. There's no counter claim (although I'd assume if there is a real cop he wouldn't actually counterclaim here. After the first 3-4 minutes of reading about it I was pretty happy because if he's town, then he'll die for his stupidity and save an easy mislynch later on. Plus, it'll actually help me clear up my read on Damdred if SL flips blue. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You good with a vivax lynch? Go vote then. Ask him something. Pressure him. All youve said is other people make good points. Like what? Whats the strongest point against vivax in your opinion? Why should I vote now? They don't count for another 25 hours. Why would I ask him something? He's got like 9 pages of filter last time I opened his filter. There's more than enough points from Koshi and Marv and others to evaluate in addition to anything I find. Hell I've even made points from what I have read of him. But instead of being actually productive, you're choosing to tunnel unproductively yet again and act like a complete dumbass. Kinda funny how every other time as town, you've always tilted over the dumbest shit ever. Why are you acting so reserved and can't risk acting like a super asshole now? Can't let the mafia team lose their star? | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: What are your top 3 scumreads in order Your mom, your girlfriend, your sister. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: You wanna lynch sl to clear up your read on damdred instead of pushing vivax or somebody else? Risk killing a cop right now for.info? Nah, I just assume if he's town and made an idiotic cop claim he'll just die at night as is normal. Any more retarded questions brah? | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:33 sicklucker wrote: Red checks are actually not that great. Theres 3 roles that will come back red when checked. (framer +2vt) 16/3. So theres a 1 in 5 chance that you get a wrong red check which could lose the game for town. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/Paris_Tuileries_Garden_Facepalm_statue.jpg | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I did misread that. blah, I'll take another look at you later. any other scumreads besides just vivax | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:37 sicklucker wrote: Anyway I never hard claimed but medic should save me lol. Screw you ksc I cant back down from that like ever Yah you can. You can just play it off or like, not post your green check. Stop being silly. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: wow. sure did own me there. fuck you geript Well I had thought that you did want to before, but I guess if you do then I'll get that you'd complete the trophy collection I have from my scumreads. | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:40 sicklucker wrote: 2 out of 5 games I have played ksc has got the cop killed 2/5 games the cop got the cop killed and ksc was playing | ||
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On January 04 2015 12:46 Damdred wrote: Meh there was one game that kel hard claimed cop as vt and got the real cop ls killed d1 Anyway why did you out on a green check sl Remember that one game where I fake claimed tracker when the cop was already dead. Historic. | ||
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On January 04 2015 06:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote: On page 141 and vivaxs reads are fucking crazy. Hes focused on conspiracies and associations too, something i havent seen much from him as town. Currently thinking vivax and robik are not likely teammates tho The irony is that this post is actually a decent reason to think Vivax might be town. This post is 100% in correct. | ||
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On January 04 2015 13:12 KelsierSC wrote: geript did you give your thoughts on the people who are potential lynches today/ that feels important to me and I can't remember what you said. oh yeh GB do that too please. Filters exist for a reason brah. | ||
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On January 04 2015 13:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I feel I owe everyone an apolicy for my sloppy and frankly stupid play. I went and read my day 1 filter from lx and I can barely follow and understand my arguments, confirming my real fear that become just straight up stupider since then. i won't martyr, but I will make a sincere effort to stop being an asshole from this point forward. I'm sorry for polluting this game, honestly. I don't.know if I have the reading comprehension skills anymore to play well and I barely had them before.prettydepressed right now And I apologize for being a dick to you. | ||
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On January 04 2015 13:51 KelsierSC wrote: give me your thoughts on SL, viv , Dam, Robik ...brah SL who knows. Maybe he's a noob, but there's really not a point in thinking about him unless there's a counter claim or he lives for 2-3 days and there's not a missing NK. Odds are he's actually the cop and is using the role poorly Vivax--The reasons I've seen brought up against him made me think he was worth voting for on D1. His posts haven't inspired me and I haven't seen the unique Vivax perspective that I usually see when he's town; plus his posts have been more logic/reason based which is usually what I see from him as mafia. That's said, DrH's comment summarizing Vivax's play I don't find alignment indicative as he does that as town (not sure if he also does it as mafia). All that said, I haven't really gotten past page 2 on his filter every time I open it because I get bored. Good chance for being scum. Damdred--I thought he was blue and cop by how he's playing. A few points have been made about him that caught my eye because they're things I associate with his mafia play (less active, more passive play, less "in the trenches", etc.). That said, he's made a few good points which I don't think he would if he were town. Maybe I just misread him as blue. I think he's town but I'm less sure than I was yesterday. Robik--I've absolutely hated Robik's D2. It's been pretty bad. He makes no useful points and just posts a bunch of crap. Unfortunately, that's my experience of his town play. He also has a pretty large filter and he's, from my understanding, a renowned pussy when he's mafia (I'm less sure of this honestly). There are a lot of points that vote both ways, but overall I think he's town, but I'd put that just barely. GB--I think this guys's town. I talked with Artanis some about him. Maybe we disagree, but if Vivax is mafia, then GB has a higher percentage of being with him for being too right as he's not a player who in my experience has been reasonably accurate with his reads. VE--Feels very town VE to me. IDK, can't really explain it but I've played with him a bunch. The largest counterpoint to this is that as of late as mafia he's been less active and more lazy aiming more for not being lynched than his previous active scum game. LM--Has an apparent greencheck on him. Worth considering 90% accurate unless SL flips not blue, there's a CC or what not. Marv--I'm guessing is town. I've been super wafflecone on this guy and in writing this, I'm realizing that at least some of my town reads have to be wrong Kels--I thought you were town. But I haven't really played a bunch of games to have a great read on you. Superbia--He's been flat out wrong about my meta from Russian, super inactive and just overall has no care to play. I don't think I've ever really managed to get a read on him and the games I've played with him he's either been super town or managed to get himself lynched at some point. For some reason I think he might be less active as mafia in general but honestly I have no clue how correct that actually is. Palmer--has a history of being scum when I role town. I honestly have never had a good clue as to what his alignment is. He'll bus as mafia; he'll generally be less active as mafia. But this game is in a weird situation (NYE into weekend) that he coudl just be MIA town at points. I just really enjoy his snark and how fun he makes the game. Lynch him later on at some point I think. DrH--None of what he's actually done has been productive. I don't know how honest he's being in his apology. He can be town who's just been overzealous, biased and tunneled or he could be mafia just playing to win. Don't Lynch Pool: Damdred GlowingBear Geript Artanis[XP] Lazermonkey Marvellosity justanothertownie IAmRobik sicklucker VisceraEyes KelsierSC IDK Pool: Palmer Lynch Pool: TheChyz Vivax ritoky DoctorHelvetica Superbia Overall, Kelsier, Damdred, GB, LM and JAT are my weakest Don't Lynch reads. The Lynch pool is essentialy PoE. I still expect at least one Vet to be mafia but as to which one in specific the best bet I think is Palmer. He'd read Eden as town; DrH I don't think allows those kills to go through. Not sure why, but they don't quite suit what I've read of his mafia play (I've never seen him as mafia in a large game I've played in). | ||
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On January 05 2015 04:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I'm pretty happy with a Geript lynch though. The two main reasons I like him as town were his play on the end of D1 looking quite townie and his explanation on D2 about a few of my suspects, as well as his suspicions of JAT. However, when combining those two I am left with the option of Geript playing like he did at night because he expected me to perceive it that way. If so, it's also easy for him to think up these answers to my questions if he's scum. That, as well as his complacency earlier in on D1 and the Chyz thing makes me ok with a Geript lynch. KK be wrong brah. | ||
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On January 04 2015 14:17 geript wrote: SL who knows. Maybe he's a noob, but there's really not a point in thinking about him unless there's a counter claim or he lives for 2-3 days and there's not a missing NK. Odds are he's actually the cop and is using the role poorly Vivax--The reasons I've seen brought up against him made me think he was worth voting for on D1. His posts haven't inspired me and I haven't seen the unique Vivax perspective that I usually see when he's town; plus his posts have been more logic/reason based which is usually what I see from him as mafia. That's said, DrH's comment summarizing Vivax's play I don't find alignment indicative as he does that as town (not sure if he also does it as mafia). All that said, I haven't really gotten past page 2 on his filter every time I open it because I get bored. Good chance for being scum. Damdred--I thought he was blue and cop by how he's playing. A few points have been made about him that caught my eye because they're things I associate with his mafia play (less active, more passive play, less "in the trenches", etc.). That said, he's made a few good points which I don't think he would if he were town. Maybe I just misread him as blue. I think he's town but I'm less sure than I was yesterday. Robik--I've absolutely hated Robik's D2. It's been pretty bad. He makes no useful points and just posts a bunch of crap. Unfortunately, that's my experience of his town play. He also has a pretty large filter and he's, from my understanding, a renowned pussy when he's mafia (I'm less sure of this honestly). There are a lot of points that vote both ways, but overall I think he's town, but I'd put that just barely. GB--I think this guys's town. I talked with Artanis some about him. Maybe we disagree, but if Vivax is mafia, then GB has a higher percentage of being with him for being too right as he's not a player who in my experience has been reasonably accurate with his reads. VE--Feels very town VE to me. IDK, can't really explain it but I've played with him a bunch. The largest counterpoint to this is that as of late as mafia he's been less active and more lazy aiming more for not being lynched than his previous active scum game. LM--Has an apparent greencheck on him. Worth considering 90% accurate unless SL flips not blue, there's a CC or what not. Marv--I'm guessing is town. I've been super wafflecone on this guy and in writing this, I'm realizing that at least some of my town reads have to be wrong Kels--I thought you were town. But I haven't really played a bunch of games to have a great read on you. Superbia--He's been flat out wrong about my meta from Russian, super inactive and just overall has no care to play. I don't think I've ever really managed to get a read on him and the games I've played with him he's either been super town or managed to get himself lynched at some point. For some reason I think he might be less active as mafia in general but honestly I have no clue how correct that actually is. Palmer--has a history of being scum when I role town. I honestly have never had a good clue as to what his alignment is. He'll bus as mafia; he'll generally be less active as mafia. But this game is in a weird situation (NYE into weekend) that he coudl just be MIA town at points. I just really enjoy his snark and how fun he makes the game. Lynch him later on at some point I think. DrH--None of what he's actually done has been productive. I don't know how honest he's being in his apology. He can be town who's just been overzealous, biased and tunneled or he could be mafia just playing to win. Don't Lynch Pool: Damdred GlowingBear Geript Artanis[XP] Lazermonkey Marvellosity justanothertownie IAmRobik sicklucker VisceraEyes KelsierSC IDK Pool: Palmer Lynch Pool: TheChyz Vivax ritoky DoctorHelvetica Superbia Overall, Kelsier, Damdred, GB, LM and JAT are my weakest Don't Lynch reads. The Lynch pool is essentialy PoE. I still expect at least one Vet to be mafia but as to which one in specific the best bet I think is Palmer. He'd read Eden as town; DrH I don't think allows those kills to go through. Not sure why, but they don't quite suit what I've read of his mafia play (I've never seen him as mafia in a large game I've played in). | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think he's a viable lynch target and I don't mind Vivax going on about him. Putting him on the table is fair. Geript, you didn't put Marv in your weakest Townreads list so that suggests you have a pretty decent townread on him now. What makes him town to you? Other than his activity today, I actually have no issues with him. He had a very snarky commet to someone that I've always associated with townMarv. On January 04 2015 06:21 marvellosity wrote: hakuna your tatas. It's just the sense of humor while being on point and effective that I've read him on correctly before. | ||
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On January 02 2015 07:59 ritoky wrote: i voted for you at the lunch period while i was at work @ like 3am, because i wasn't sure i would wake up before the deadline. i voted for you because i already had a slight scum read on you from your play making no sense and you being stuck in previous game bs; but what pushed you to the top was you coming into the thread right after i posted a massive wall of reads, nitpicking one tiny thing, giving 0 reaction, and moving on. as town, if you really thought i was scum like you apparently do, i feel you would go out of you way to attack and discredit my reads to establish definitively that i am scum or you would simply ignore them because they came from someone you think is scum. you did neither, which isn't what you have done previously as town. This is actually a pretty good reason to vote for ritoky | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:39 marvellosity wrote: hihihihihihihi. Am miles behind. Cliff notes? People still want to lynch me. People still want to lynch Vivax. People still want to pull shenannies. Superbia and ritoky both still mia. Robik ~11 page filter. VE seems town but got his panties in a bunch when I put him in a list of vets one of which is probably scum. Palmer continuing his not playing on weekends thing. DrH apologized for being an asshole after I was an asshole to him and I apologized to him. Honestly a lot of nothing. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:46 marvellosity wrote: to my great sadness, i don't think i've been mafia with palmar We were mafia together once. I dragged you down and then got freebie town reads. It was spectacular. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:48 marvellosity wrote: ignore me if this was answered after this post, but i still couldn't see why you were voting vivax at that point geript? He was the best lynch on D1. I voted in thread a bit after I read Koshi's read on him. Then again after his second push and Slam's vote count. That reminds me I need to go back and read that section. I've been putting if off b/c I'm lazy. | ||
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On January 05 2015 05:51 marvellosity wrote: but you were suspicious of koshi at the time?? Initially yes, but he became very town koshi pretty quickly mid-late d1. | ||
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On January 02 2015 09:13 Koshi wrote: Explain to me why Vivax is so focused connecting people with geript. Yet never talks about geript his alignment and his own view on geript. On January 02 2015 18:27 Koshi wrote: This is a 100% bullshit post from Vivax. There is no way town Vivax thinks like this. Vivax also slipped in his own bullshit by saying the red bolded. That's enough to read Vivax 100% scum. The entire post is such bullshit. VIVAX IS SMART. Yet "he wonders why" or "he can't grasp" very simple stuff. This is not town Vivax Other reason to why Vivax is scum: You have to understand Vivax posted this on page 59. While the batsnacks thing happened on page 57. So Vivax is 2 pages behind. Yet he says this: This is 4 hours later. HOW IS VIVAX NOT CAUGHT UP YET? Vivax is bullshitting you people. He is playing you with this entire "I am not caught up" bullshit. He is using it to not draw too much attention to him. Or that people expect him to participate in the ongoing lynch. Vivax did not touch geript immediately when entering the thread. Vivax is a town leader. Vivax is smart. Vivax is the true detective. Vivax was in this thread for multiple hours and did not touch geript. There is no excuse for a townplayer who was "contributing" to not touch geript. He quoted something from batsnacks and Lazermonkey on page 57. Everything around geript happened already. Why is he not participating in the moment? But he has time to to ask marv 2-3 times why marv wanted Vivax to come to the thread. But Vivax never does anything with marv ignoring him. Or explain why it is important. WHY is it important marv wondered if Vivax would come back? Do you think Vivax would have produced some sick meta read on marv if marv replied? Nope. It was a bullshit random question. Dat adhom. Ok. Now you can die. I made it pretty obvious that my suspicion wasn't because Vivax was inactive on NYE. This is the second or third post in which Vivax says "that he doesn't understand" why people are thinking he might be scum. Even if he disagrees with the reason why people read Vivax as scum. He should at least have a grasp on why it is. Or at least question it. Look it up. But no. This game Vivax is from Barcelona and he knows nothing. Also notice how he leaves the thread making 4-5 joke posts and making himself popular? If Vivax really was catching up this entire time, he would leave the thread with some sort of -final reads after catching up-. Or at least something concrete. Not make 5 joke posts and fuck off. Nope. Never. Vivax was lurking guys. A real not caught up Vivax who was catching up would not be posting so much in the moment stuff. He was caught up and lurking the entire time he was here. On January 02 2015 18:56 Koshi wrote: Look at the time. Here he read something from page 57: Then Vivax makes 5-6 posts talking about how Dr.H. his posts convince Vivax that Chyz is scum. Especially this chain makes it believable Vivax is actually caught up. Or decently caught up. You have to understand that this happens on page 62: Here Vivax comments on page 68 on Chyz his post from page 65. So on page 59 Vivax is commenting on things that happened on page 57. On page 62 Vivax is pretty confidently speaking about his Chyz read. He knows everything Chyz and Dr.H posted about the manner. On page 68 Vivax knows what happens on page 65. Comments on it. Then on page 69, this is his way to deflect my initial push. This is how he brushes off my pressure. Which I started instantly when he posted that Chyz shit on page 68. Suddenly he is not caught up and insecure: Then on page fucking 76: This is page 76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vivax has been playing and replying to events from page 59-76 AND NOW HE SAYS HE IS BAD AT THE GAME OR NOT CAUGHT UP. TEXTBOOK MAFIA SENTENCE | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:14 Vivax wrote: Geript if you want to make today's lynch a fully fledged out Koshi sheeping you best not forget the part where he also mentions you and Robik as scum. Ladies first babe. They can lynch me after they lynch you. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:15 Damdred wrote: Geript why are you so sure ve is town?did you read what I posted Feels. Just feels very much like how I've seen him when he's town. | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Eh, koshis case still doesnt convince me. Vivax play up to this point i guess looks like he was skimming the thread when he came in. If he isn't being lazy now (and being past the holidays) is that really enough If he's skimming does he magically miss you being a jerk and constant tunneling on Chyz? I mean at least 3 different people told you to lay the fuck off of him for a bit and each time you'd come back to the tunnel harder. Do you miss that in skimming? Hell, I started skimming each post you made about Chyz after a bit because of how repetitive and boring it got. But after understanding the argument he missed all of that? | ||
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On January 05 2015 06:52 Damdred wrote: Robik will you read what I wrote on ve and give opinion? I don't like that answer geript did you read my post on him I really don't care. I've been playing with VE for years. I've been wrong on him before but I don't think this game is similar to Greymist or the one after that. He's much like when I correctly read him last time. | ||
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Funny how this and the other one basically say my day 1 damns me but none of Koshi'sarguments are particularly damning. It's also funny how you like Vivax's D2. What has Vivax done today that's good whatsoever? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:03 KelsierSC wrote: I think Vivax has pushed who he believes are scum d2. He also spotted the inconsistency in your reads and that felt town to me. Who did he push? How do inconsistencies make me mafia? Like there's probably 100 and he's literally picked the weakest one. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:07 IAmRobik wrote: yeah...i don't want koshi to yell at me in post game. If I had to choose, I'd probably lynch ritoky or superbia though cause I think that Eden's reads were better than Koshi's Koshi had both of them as mafia. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:07 Vivax wrote: I'm sure you have a clear picture of what JAT is thinking about the guy he has been sitting on all day long, ie me, and geript. Oh wait, you can't cause he refuses to go in depth about us and it's not worth being called out in your opinion. This is actually a quite worthwhile point. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:08 marvellosity wrote: slight digressment: watching my other half try to use an iron for the first time is pretty hilarious. You have an othere half. </3 | ||
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No it is. Because if Vivax is town, which I highly doubt, then it means the D1/2 lynches have been town v town. And that behavior is exactly what mafia would do. | ||
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You're hot and you're property. I didn't know you were into such kinky shit Marv. | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:16 Palmar wrote: yo. What are we doing? Talking about Marv's sex life. You? | ||
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On January 05 2015 07:20 Palmar wrote: Did you guys know that Damdred is mafia? I thought he was town. Which doesn't bode well for me if you're right. | ||
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On January 05 2015 08:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I don't really think anyone is townreading superbia, but shennanies aren't necessary. A lot of this game is centered around geripts alignment It's town. Thanks for asking. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You're right. Geript escaping through two lynches by shenannies is kind of problematic as it'll probably dominate D3 talk as well. Bleh. Let me know what you think of Superbia though. I think someone said this on D1. I can't remember who it was. Artanis can do you remember? | ||
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Oh was the genius who said it, was that me? How sweet of you to remind me. You can sheep my god tier reads after I'm dead. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:42 sicklucker wrote: Well shit that didnt have the reaction I hoped. Regardless of that scum slip its still a decent reason to think supers scum. So stating that LM wasn't your green check was a scumslip. Thanks. Two down. | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:42 Superbia wrote: Geript, what are your thoughts on Robik? What do you think of my argument as to why he's mafia, his dismissal of the argument, and his subsequent departure? plz read filter. 12 pgs. Is pussy as scum (and irl). NEXT | ||
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On January 05 2015 09:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming you're town we wouldn't have to wait for you to die if you were as good in projecting your towniness as moi. I'm actually quite town if people actually read me. It's the first impressions that are giving people a real hangup. I'd even put money that I've read more filters and reread teh thread mroe than anyone else on D2. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Ble. Geript wants to die anyway so let's give his soul peace. ##Unvote Superbia ##Vote Geript Nah, I don't want to die. But I can't force people's stupid and wrong reads out of their heads. Lead a horse to water and all that. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:01 sicklucker wrote: Hes been trying to see what sticks all game. Like I dont care who we kill their both mafia. Im least sure of robik in that group but im having a hard time finding anyone else. Someone could be busing gerit For it to be a bus, I'd have to be mafia first. Let me give you a little hint about how to play mafia. That thing that rests on top of your neck with the squishy spongy material in it. Use it. For example, before you claim for no good reason which btw was completely unprovoked. You're the one who said, "What if I have a greencheck on LM" first. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I disagree and think that's too easy. If you get lynched, you have yourself to blame, always. Did you get anything out of those rereads that you haven't shared yet that could be useful? Have you seriously not fucking read my filter artanis? Seriously? | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I did read your massive post with all the reads. I'm asking about anything additional. So do you disagree with it? | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:14 geript wrote: The only major change is that Kelsier looks exceptionally worse, especially if Vivax is mafia. If Vivax flips red, then I'd go to Kelsier far before I'd lynch GB. Damdred still looks really town. Mafia don't beg for a fucking lynch. If Vivax happens to be green, then I'd first look at JAT of the actives. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:15 sicklucker wrote: Because that was the play I set up. Like I blatantly softed lm with a green check by taking supers list post and turning his red checks on me and him into green. Then blatantly giving no reason to the 3 people who asked why I town read lm . So you basically setup a play to out yourself with a mostly worthless greencheck for what reason exactly? Oh no good reason. Plz never role blue again unless I'm scum. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Actually now that LM isn't greenchecked anymore I'd probably swap him for the VE/Kelsier slot. It also means we can lynch sicklucker. Because only a retard town would not immediately out his greencheck. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yes, I have. I found them convincing at the time, but on D2 a lot of stuff has happened. Vivax has greatly shaped up and I feel he's null at worst now. Also, that emotional appeal is disgusting. I understand that your desire to lynch bad townies is within your win condition Geript but try to make it less obvious. So Vivax having a "good" D2 makes him town? Those arguments are rock solid. I find it really funny that people are town reading his D2 yet still considering my D2 super skummy. Me getting lynched doens't make me bad, it makes me lazy. You having a bad read which btw I'm actually quite easy to read if anyone actually put any work into understanding me and how I think, that's on you. I didn't sign up to hard carry this game like I intended to last game (when I rolled scum). | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:29 Vivax wrote: So I'm kinda inclined to believe he's really frustrated and just doesn't like playing the game. He seems to try to scumhunt with that attitude. And geript can you explain again why your notion of Chyz being noob town has simply been thrown out the window when you made the PoE list? Did you see anything in particular that gave you the thought "maybe I'm wrong?". Cause when I looked at TheChyz today after Palmar asked me about him I feel like I scumread him wrongly D1. Ok, so basically generally when I approach a D1, I'm looking for reasons to not lynch someone more than I am reasons for lynching someone. So you whittle down the pool. Not only did I throw out my D1 reads early/mid D2 when I realized I might just be reading the game all wrong. But there were also more reasons to think other people town and the "feels like noob town" read isn't strong enough or even as strong as other reads. Especially as other players have far more material to read off of. | ||
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On January 05 2015 10:33 Vivax wrote: Geript what's your opinion on Robik's 6 o'clock vote on bats since you felt like townreading him today? Plus the other question. Complaining doesn't get you anywhere. Robik's D2 is fucking terrible. But he's fucking terrible as town on a consistent basis. Like the only reason to read him town is filter length and as I understand that's a generally correct heuristic to use for/on him. Really I don't like the guy and I don't think he likes me. But that's the best I have. | ||
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I've said multiple times that I think he's town. How is this not clear? Me saying he's had a fucking terrible D2 (and btw his D1 wasn't that good either) when he usually has fucking terrible days as town. Like all you guys ahve to do is actually read and think. Apparently I'm the only person in the game capable of doing either. | ||
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A therefore B A isn't necessarily true B still true | ||
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A isn't necessarily true It goes further in that A is false B still true | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote: he was saying Chyzs tilt came really early, phrasing.it as a question means nothing. its no different than saying "I wonder why x player did scummy thing" just to voice suspicion. I don't understand at all,.help me understand BUT HE COMMENTS ON YOUR VARIOUS ARGUMENTS WITH HIM THROUGHOUT!!!! It's not like he skimmed the argument and missed a bunch of shit. | ||
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On January 02 2015 18:56 Koshi wrote: Look at the time. Here he read something from page 57: Then Vivax makes 5-6 posts talking about how Dr.H. his posts convince Vivax that Chyz is scum. Especially this chain makes it believable Vivax is actually caught up. Or decently caught up. You have to understand that this happens on page 62: Here Vivax comments on page 68 on Chyz his post from page 65. So on page 59 Vivax is commenting on things that happened on page 57. On page 62 Vivax is pretty confidently speaking about his Chyz read. He knows everything Chyz and Dr.H posted about the manner. On page 68 Vivax knows what happens on page 65. Comments on it. Then on page 69, this is his way to deflect my initial push. This is how he brushes off my pressure. Which I started instantly when he posted that Chyz shit on page 68. Suddenly he is not caught up and insecure: Then on page fucking 76: This is page 76!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Vivax has been playing and replying to events from page 59-76 AND NOW HE SAYS HE IS BAD AT THE GAME OR NOT CAUGHT UP. TEXTBOOK MAFIA SENTENCE | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:23 Damdred wrote: Ok here and off work playing a game while we do this. Geript if you die tonight please leave an updated read list of where you are. Also I really like a super lynch. No. Read my fucking filter. Stop being lazy. | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:37 KelsierSC wrote: So geript do you read Robik as town ? I know you called him terrible but I'm not sure On January 05 2015 12:30 geript wrote: No. Read my fucking filter. Stop being lazy. | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:41 KelsierSC wrote: I did read your filter and I am unclear what your read is. Can't you just answer the question it isn't super complicated Can't you just not be dense. It's not super complicated. | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:43 KelsierSC wrote: so you accuse people of not trying or having their head up their arse but when I actually ask you a question you just insult me. please just answer I have. Any idiot who had read my filter would understand what I've written. | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:43 Superbia wrote: Geript's answer is actually pretty clear. He's town-reading Robik because Robik is being dumb today. Something like that. | ||
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On January 05 2015 12:53 KelsierSC wrote: geript how do you read VE? I see if there are any letters on him. Then I go to google translate. | ||
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On January 18 2015 02:25 geript wrote: See what happens when a bunch of baddies lynch Geript. I am accepting apologies for your stupidity now. Try again scumbag Artanis. | ||
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