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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 02:43 GMT
#1641
Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today
RIP Aaliyah
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 02 2015 02:43 GMT
#1642
On January 02 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad.

You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town

Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on.

If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum)

If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though.
On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript.
-Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi)
-Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it)
-Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

-A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned.
-Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +
On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read.

On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player.

On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value.

This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well.

On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile.

4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching.
-Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today?

Yes.

One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me.

Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched.

I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league.


That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind.

Also have a look at batsnacks.

But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2.
On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent

I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do.

Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch.

Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am.

Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation?

I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town.
I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3.

You didn't post a gif


why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read?

Out of everything he said that's what you want me to comment on? Really?
A strong scumread shares a strong townread with a null slightly scum leaning player. How interesting.

I will respond to him once he posts a gif that adequately entertains me.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 02 2015 02:47 GMT
#1643
On January 02 2015 11:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad.

You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town

Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on.

If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum)

If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though.
On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript.
-Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi)
-Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it)
-Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

-A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned.
-Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +
On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read.

On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player.

On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value.

This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well.

On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile.

4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching.
-Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today?

Yes.

One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me.

Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched.

I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league.


That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind.

Also have a look at batsnacks.

But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2.
On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent

I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do.

Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch.

Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am.

Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation?

I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town.
I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3.

You didn't post a gif


why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read?

Out of everything he said that's what you want me to comment on? Really?
A strong scumread shares a strong townread with a null slightly scum leaning player. How interesting.

I will respond to him once he posts a gif that adequately entertains me.


yes because out of my giant list post reading every1 in the game, that is what you got hung up on in regards to me. why are you unevenly applying criticism?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:48 GMT
#1644
On January 02 2015 11:42 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:41 batsnacks wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want


Town doesn't have a vig.

Your team on the other hand....


Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks?


Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town.

But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch.

Since when is batsnacks hard to read? Are you kidding me?


Your point?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
January 02 2015 02:49 GMT
#1645
On January 02 2015 11:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today

No, it is because the reasoning Vivax gave was horrendous.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 02 2015 02:50 GMT
#1646
On January 02 2015 11:47 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:34 ritoky wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:21 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad.

You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town

Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on.

If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum)

If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though.
On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript.
-Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi)
-Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it)
-Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching?

Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly.

-A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned.
-Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +
On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read.

On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player.

On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:
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On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value.

This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well.

On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:

people i don't want to lynch for some reason:

1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892

Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:

5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz

Wat r u doing

2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia

Some PoE title:

3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky

I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.

I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile.

4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching.
-Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +
On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:
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On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today?

Yes.

One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me.

Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched.

I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league.


That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind.

Also have a look at batsnacks.

But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2.
On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent

I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do.

Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch.

Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am.

Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation?

I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town.
I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3.

You didn't post a gif


why you no comment on his jat read that is basically my read?

Out of everything he said that's what you want me to comment on? Really?
A strong scumread shares a strong townread with a null slightly scum leaning player. How interesting.

I will respond to him once he posts a gif that adequately entertains me.


yes because out of my giant list post reading every1 in the game, that is what you got hung up on in regards to me. why are you unevenly applying criticism?

I criticized you on a multitude of points. JAT was simply one of them. I'm also pushing his wagon, not yours. We can tangle on D2.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 02 2015 02:50 GMT
#1647
Reasons to defend geript right? Still means geript gets lynched first
RIP Aaliyah
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 02 2015 02:52 GMT
#1648
On January 02 2015 11:48 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 02 2015 11:42 batsnacks wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:41 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:41 batsnacks wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vig him and dt check whoever the hell they want


Town doesn't have a vig.

Your team on the other hand....


On January 02 2015 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:51 sicklucker wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Does anyone have any reason why we shouldn't just lynch batsnacks?


Hes already cussed at multiple new players therefor he is town.

But to be serious hes too hard to read I think he could be a mislynch.

Since when is batsnacks hard to read? Are you kidding me?


Your point?


My point is I <3 you for talking about me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 02 2015 02:54 GMT
#1649
I just checked Vivax' filter and I find him the least compelling target. He needs to read the game and not be drunk/stoned. Feels like a shot in the dark at this point.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
January 02 2015 02:54 GMT
#1650
On January 02 2015 11:49 justanothertownie wrote:
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On January 02 2015 11:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Is the whole vivax thing because he looks bad for kinda defending geript? Or is koshi gonna systematically tunnel every1 who voted chyz today

No, it is because the reasoning Vivax gave was horrendous.


Maybe in your opnion it's horrendous but hif it's horrendous it doesn't make me mafia and you're free to talk up to me, I've made it clear enough that I prefer the reasoning on the Chez than the reasoning on geript and I don't feel like lying about it.

Mostly I just see Koshi repeating to lynch me even though I still don't know why except that I was afk during a festivity. Koshi evidently doesn't have friends to party with at NYE bwhahaha
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 02 2015 02:56 GMT
#1651
Just for you Artanis
[image loading]
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
January 02 2015 02:58 GMT
#1652
Geript posting pics means scumpoints.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
January 02 2015 03:00 GMT
#1653
Esoecially when you try to garner compassion.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 02 2015 03:01 GMT
#1654
Terribly poor fps rate, not accepted.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
January 02 2015 03:02 GMT
#1655
Artanis where do I get all the cool gifs
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 02 2015 03:04 GMT
#1656
On January 02 2015 12:02 Vivax wrote:
Artanis where do I get all the cool gifs

If I told you I'd have to kill you.
[image loading]
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
January 02 2015 03:05 GMT
#1657
I know where to get the cool beers tho.

Not that heineken trash
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
January 02 2015 03:08 GMT
#1658
That gif though
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 02 2015 03:10 GMT
#1659
On January 01 2015 07:23 batsnacks wrote:
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On January 01 2015 07:23 geript wrote:
On January 01 2015 07:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So we should ignore newer players? He seemed pretty confident and able to deal with heat in his last game. Plus at the time it was only me, I think only one or two people have agreed to vote with me by this point. It doesn't add up. If you think we should policy ignore newbs or something okay - I don't. I believe in trial by fire, you know that. We'll see what other people have to say about it. How about you offer a better lynch?

No I don't think we should ignore newer players. I do think that to get a correct read on them you often need to give them slack and let them hang themselves (or others) with it rather than wrap the noose tight around their necks. I'm fine with trial by fire. But there are productive ways to do that and unproductive ways to do that. Your tunnel is the latter.


Do you still think what I posted is a crackpot theory?

This post is pretty weird to me. I missed it previously but Bat's theory that Chyz rehashed his Koshi read in order to get people on his side again was crackpot. Why does he ask again? How does that even relate to my response to DrH? It bugs me.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 02 2015 03:14 GMT
#1660
On January 01 2015 11:15 batsnacks wrote:
Doesn't anyone want to talk about reads or something? I know there are ppl here I can see the thread views going up.

This bugs me too. Not because he doesn't want to talk, but when Bat comes back to the thread Ritoky had made a list post having Bat as town but he doesn't really care about that post at all. Not definitive but at least worth looking at.
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