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On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.
There are hours left and there are other wagons too. There are a few people who agree with you on vivax, why dont you talk about that instead of flinging shit at me. Apparently you had little problem with me up until right this second and you seem very convinced you will be lynched when I'm not sure anyone saw it that way until you threw a tantrum just now
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On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.
You can't force people out of bad logic, you just apply your own until they listen to it or you flip and then they listen to it, that's my policy as town. and honestly I have no idea why you're voting for me.
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On January 02 2015 11:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Chyz I want to talk to you about a few things in your filter if you're still here. I won't let your father bully you I promise.
He already quit cause i was too mean
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On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.
Getting mislynched is not selfless. It is not bold. And it most certainly is not the right play in any situation. It is selfish, dumb and despicable.
If you just put in some effort to show that you are town you would not be the discussion every day.
Get your head out of your ass if you are town.
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On January 02 2015 11:07 Fecalfeast wrote: Remember to use vote thread I'm too hungover to count in thread here
This is why I am the designated driver friend
no need for hangoverism
But water
drink Gatorade
and FF don't count anything in the thread I told them to vote in vote thread; they vote in the thread i made specifically for that not here
and I have already threatened public shaming
To clarify feel free to post a vote here but don't expect it to count unless it is also there
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On December 31 2014 15:02 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 14:54 sicklucker wrote:
Mspaint. and No.
So like a scum dandred wont make a midnight opening joke post about him being mafia. Like who starts a mafia game at midnight. Scum would be more inclined to lurk untill tomorrow.
Im getting a slight town read from it. Dont see how you can get a strong read either way as in to like vote him. Awkward start of the game votes at the first thing they read piss me off. You'll find with most vets, that votes early on really don't mean shit. As far as I'm concerned his unfunny joke is slightly scummy, but nothing I terribly care about. Besides, he's fun to vote for. As for lurking vs not lurking, that's just dumb. He'll post as scum whenever he wants. IIRC he usually tries to get in early as scum but he does that as town too. How lurky or not lurky he is within the first 5 minutes isn't something I'd consider even partially useful for reading him or anyone else. Sidenote to scum: You should probably shoot Damdred. There's like a 40% chance that he's the cop.
On December 31 2014 15:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2014 15:36 ritoky wrote:On December 31 2014 15:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
What's up nerds. Let's talk policy - unlike a lot of people I think it's plenty useful on Day 1.
I believe strongly in Lynch All Liars. What's your policy on lynching people who claim scum? @Damdred. Here's your check baby boy.
Classic mafia fishing for role info. I ignored it at the time but no longer. Lets go
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Noone, I repeat noone will give your reads anymore credit after you flip.
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anyway sorry I am not able to be here for deadline. Work came up unexpectedly.
Fortunately FecalFeast is here and will handle the flip. However, it might be delayed a bit.
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Mafia doesnt martyr. It doesnt help their team. They afk but not martyr.
Dr.H.
Damdred
RoL
Superbia
Vivax
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On January 02 2015 11:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:03 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 10:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:29 geript wrote:
Artanis. You make me sad. You made me sad by either rolling mafia or playing this poorly as town  Not having the drive to post and reread 80 times like I normally do isn't playing poorly. I'm sheeping a good wagon. I've been the focus of attention for most of 2 days now at least part of which is due to the fact that vets "caught" me early and the fact that the day has stagnated due to NYE. Like, I don't feel like putting in 48 hours of work in this type of situation. Especially when a cop is probably going to red check me tomorrow. That's a really bad situation for town. You gotta look at it from my side too. Sometimes it's best to bite the bullet to let town move the fuck on. If you think sacrificing yourself is a better play than proving you're town through good play then I don't think anything I say will help. What I expected from you was some form of direction, but I find it extremely lacking in your posts. To me, the most damning point is having 4 suspects within one hour, and asking none any questions or pressing them for anything (other than calling Marv 100% scum) If you post good gifs I might still lynch someone else though. Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:05 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 10:55 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 10:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Vivax: Concrete things I didn't like about Geript. -Holding back information until questioned (read reasons on Dr.H, read reasons on Koshi) -Laying out lines and never getting back to them (questioned me on what I thought of sl/eden/kels, never got back to me when I expanded upon it, so I pulled him back on it and it felt like he didn't have much thought behind it) -Doesn't care about getting lynched + Show Spoiler +On January 01 2015 05:44 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 05:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Have we decided which non-robik/non-marv/non-drh person we're lynching? Lots of people seem to think that I'm the lynch. Kinda scary because I doubt many people will actually ahve read the thread by the end of the day or half of it and most of the vets seem to be on that train. But meh. I really dgaf about that. People are just historically bad at reading me correctly. -A large part of his filter is just.. not saying anything. I mean scroll through it, put up a notepad and fill in what you've learned. -Throws suspicion in every which way but doesn't pursue anything. + Show Spoiler [examples] +On January 02 2015 04:23 geript wrote:
First off, I'm really surprised that more people don't want to lynch Robik. New Years has fucked with us all I imagine in addition to the surprise start, but Town!Robik tends to play quite differently. He's aggressive; he bounces all over the place. He makes huge sweeping townreads that are the craziest shit I've ever seen. He's really passive. Nothing "turns his wheel" so to speak. Usually he'd be on something like a dog in heat by now. That's my first read. On January 02 2015 04:48 geript wrote:
In looking at some of Lazer's past games, he's probably an ok lynch. Marv is right on that he's pretty much a background player. On January 02 2015 04:54 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2015 04:53 Eden1892 wrote:
I mean, he's on track for a >10pg filter by the end of day 1 and the most prominent memories I have of him are obnoxiously pushy questions that don't have a clear endgame and asking the cool kids what to think. Seems like he's said a lot so far in terms of post count but a little in terms of actual value. This is out of place in where I am int he thread. But I'm pretty sure that this is kinda exactly why I've been called scum this game. At least in part. Pretty odd that Eden defines that as my scumplay. The other thing about Eden that's been bugging me is that specific weird heuristics get dropped from the scene for no reason. Usually when town goes ham, they go ham. But there's a specific level of crazy but not too crazy that makes me think that Eden is probably a pretty good lynch as well. On January 02 2015 05:32 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 05:27 marvellosity wrote:
don't like this list:
people i don't want to lynch for some reason:
1; Koshi
4; Artanis[XP]
6; Marvellosity
7; justanothertownie
8; IAmRobik
10; Palmar
11; Damdred
15; KelsierSC
17; DoctorHelvetica
18; Eden1892
Hmm? arbitrarily feels like a 1/2 deal. Nothing to back this up:
5; Lazermonkey
9; TheChyz
Wat r u doing
2; GlowingBear
14; Vivax
19; RebirthOfLeGenD
20; Superbia
Some PoE title:
3; Geript
12; batsnacks
13; sicklucker
16; ritoky
I take no responsibility if this does or does not contradict something I said previously. Just making this list makes me think I should look at sl though, he could be mafia. Normally I remember him when I read stuff.
I don't like this list at all Marv. Back to scumpile. 4 different scumreads within the timeframe of an hour. Doesn't really follow up on anything but Marv, of which he just nitpicks the list and talks about fear lynching. -Excuses - Has a 6 page filter, yet talks about how he's busy. + Show Spoiler +On January 02 2015 06:03 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 05:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 02 2015 05:57 Palmar wrote:On January 02 2015 05:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Palmar, do you still believe Geript to be the best lynch today? Yes. One thing that particularly stands out to me is that I'm sort of in the driver's seat on this lynch, and geript hasn't even mentioned or addressed me at all. Like all he has to do is change my mind, but for some reason he's shying away from any interaction with me. Well, you haven't been around until recently so that's a reasonable consideration. It's weird that he hasn't really defended the main points against him or really push anyone. Just calls Lazer an "ok lynch", calls Eden a "pretty good lynch", decides Marv is scum again yet he seems to have no interest in actively not getting lynched. It's really weird because no matter his alignment he shouldn't want to get lynched. I don't want to get lynched but I'm busy. Plus, I don't think people are going to listen to what I have to say whatsoever unless I get lynched. Granted most people will likely forget it and some people will likely just dismiss it. But just promise me to look back at my list and think about it. I'll try to be back later to explain things in more detail. But I still haven't had a shower or anything to eat or drink yet today and I have a shitton of stuff to do and I really want to play league. That's pretty much it. I'm still going to look into the filters of Chyz and Vivax to see if they're better lynches and make up my mind. Also have a look at batsnacks. But no one's even voted batsnacks yet, I'll look into him D2. On January 02 2015 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Artanis, do me a favor and scan thru his filter from his last game...should make it v apparent I take it you're referring to your enfant terrible? Will do. Thats not an excuse. What difference is there between one vote on Vivax and 0 on batsnacks? There are still 3 hours until deadline and I might push for a batsnacks lynch. Two votes on Vivax. If you make a good case I'll look into it but I'm already doing more reading than I was planning at 3am.
Artanis, there's really not any more direction that I could post than I've already posted. You guys have been all like "OMG his stuff is so shit." People say that shit all the time when I'm town. I also tend to find the right answer in ways that other people don't. I look at games entirely differently than most here. All of what's happening is that my posts are being buried in my filter by me trying to explain this shit to you guys. You don't see Marv around actually caring who gets lynched or why. Why is he so focused on a town? Why has his game been exceptionally different from his town play? Why doesn't he want to lynch Robik? Why is Robik so nothing like the usual townplay I've seen? Why is GB changing his mind in 5 minutes when nothing of note in the thread has changed? Why is Vivax someone that most people are "considering" but few people have any actual drive to consider the situation?
I don't feel like being tunneled for 3 more days which if I don't get lynched is my expected lifespan in this game. I've told you who I think is off and why. You might not understand it. But I don't think I can explain it better. Marv isn't town!Marv. Vivax has a decent shot of flipping scum. GB, idk. I've always had a hard time reading him and I don't think he's a great player. Chyz is town. DrH is maybe town but if he is then he's a large detriment to the game. Palmer is town. Damdred is town. Koshi is almost assuredly town (not because he doesn't want to kill me). You're town.
I think sicklucker is probably town his play looks more similar to his townplay to me and when I reread him again I think he's getting a bad rap because people aren't looking at the towny hints. Kelsier is a tough read. But as scum he tends to be active and do things even when the thread's not moving or changing direction. He's alot like me in that he likes to think ahead a bit I think. I don't really see that in his filter. So he's probably town. JAT is town. Just trust me on this <3.
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When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon:
On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial
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On January 02 2015 11:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on. There are hours left and there are other wagons too. There are a few people who agree with you on vivax, why dont you talk about that instead of flinging shit at me. Apparently you had little problem with me up until right this second and you seem very convinced you will be lynched when I'm not sure anyone saw it that way until you threw a tantrum just now
If they didn't see that I had about a 60% chance of being lynched as of idk 18 hours into the game, then they're just bad at reading the tone and temper of the game. When you have 5 or so Vets wiling to lynch you and most of them pushing for your lynch, it's pretty obvious how things are going to pan out.
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On January 02 2015 11:22 batsnacks wrote:When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon: Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial
Is this all you have to contribute?
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On January 02 2015 11:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:22 batsnacks wrote:When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon: On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial Is this all you have to contribute?
I wasn't trying to contribute.
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On January 02 2015 11:25 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 11:24 justanothertownie wrote:On January 02 2015 11:22 batsnacks wrote:When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon: On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial Is this all you have to contribute? I wasn't trying to contribute.
You do realize your like the other wagon at this point right?
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FUCKING LYNCH VIVAX
DO NOT LYNCH CHYZ
DO NKT LYNCH GERIPT.
Seriously the 4 people on chyz are insanely dense. No newbie mafia is going to SELFVOTE because a town is onto him and fuck his team over.
THINK FFS
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On January 02 2015 11:22 batsnacks wrote:When is eod? This seems to imply that eod is not anytime soon: Show nested quote +On January 02 2015 10:42 Alakaslam wrote:
Happy New Year 17 hours 40 minutes late from Imperial
That is a joke for my buddies mostly. I forgot it might be taken that way even though the deadline is still toward the bottom of the post.
I made a big stink at the turn of the year "Gotta tell my mafia folks happy new year from imperial!"
"dude we are in Riverside? Are you lying about being in a worse county online? What kind of..."
So yeah
timestamp of that post is 17 hours 40 minutes into the new year roughly
That's enough I will stop interacting folks. Go vote if you haven't.
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Batsnacks might be town as well. He is batsnacks insane. This is not sure. I am sleep depraved atm
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On January 02 2015 11:26 Koshi wrote:
FUCKING LYNCH VIVAX
DO NOT LYNCH CHYZ
DO NKT LYNCH GERIPT.
Seriously the 4 people on chyz are insanely dense. No newbie mafia is going to SELFVOTE because a town is onto him and fuck his team over.
THINK FFS
Sheep koshi guys. This man knows what he is saying.
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