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justanothertownie
16309 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:31 sicklucker wrote: That was palmer trying? I mean I didnt try but after day 1 he checked out. Are you trying to tell me that Palmar didn't try day1 last game? Wtf is your point? | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:29 marvellosity wrote: hmm. why are you scumreading me when my top 2 scumreads seem to be the same as yours? when you dont give me any credit for being the first person in the thread to push them? yes | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
now that i am an adult and work in an emergency room, i know otherwise. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:20 batsnacks wrote: You spent most of today pushing chyz and no one voted him. Palmar posts 1 read and half the game sheeps him. Doesn't this strike you as odd? I saw that you commented on this before I think you said it annoyed you or something. I thought geript was scum the whole time and when i saw how bad he defended himself he looks worse. No one will read my posts if they see its about chyz probably | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote: when you dont give me any credit for being the first person in the thread to push them? yes What do you think of Lazer? | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
Like in geribys shoes up to page 50 why do you ever push a 2 page filter robik who promised to step his game up on day2 over you who concedes as mafia. | ||
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batsnacks
United States4466 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:41 batsnacks wrote: SL vote lazer with me. I don't want to be the only person voting him. Hes like my third its probably not happening. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:38 sicklucker wrote: Like marv on those first posts lynching you over robik as geribt wanted was more as policy because up to page 50 as of last game you would have been a great policy. Like in geribys shoes up to page 50 why do you ever push a 2 page filter robik who promised to step his game up on day2 over you who concedes as mafia. tbh i'm slightly baked and i can't quite get what you're getting at | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12968 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote: Hes like my third its probably not happening. Does that mean your third suspect, or? | ||
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
Anyways I still think we should lynch laser over geript. If anything we can just have geript lynched day 2 if he still continues to play the way he is, but it really seems like it is more out of not being too invested in the game. I still think geript is scummy but not as much as laser. On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality. ##Vote: TheChyz On January 01 2015 01:19 Lazermonkey wrote: The reason I asked if you knew his meta was because you dismissed my by implying that unless you generally act as a townleader, stuff like this isn't scummy. I disagree. Saying to two people that they should stop arguing over stupid shit is protown. But it is very non-commital. Its okay to do stuff like that as long as you are pushing scum as well. But Chyz wasn't hunting scum, not untill people called him out for not hunting scum. It does not matter if he scumhunted after he was called out. If you are town and get called out for that, you scum hunt because it helps town. If you are scum, you scum hunt to avoid suspicion. The fact that he started scum hunt after he got called out for it IS not alignment indicative. I feel what is relevant here is what his motive was. Its clear that he was reading the thread, its clear that he wrote a post, its clear that he didn't care to post any reads untill he got called out for it. What alignment does these action make sense from? So first he says it is scum mentality for doing all of this and then proceeds to say that what I did is NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE and that the real problem is my motive? Unless you know what my motive is that is a HUGE jump to conclusions off of my first post. During this time in the thread people liked jumping on me and as such laser seems to be trying to find different angles to attack me from. More on this jumping onto the hype train later on. On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote: Soo, about the 3 "protagonists" Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though. DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today. rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him. So this is super wishy washy to me. Not really attacking anybody or defending anybody (which is ok) but literally it sounds like im just reading a synopsis of what happened in the thread. Seems like someone not having reads but making some in order to look pro town (yes u can say im hypocrite, but I think i have given a few okish cases, kk?). On January 01 2015 03:23 Lazermonkey wrote: Well, if your argument is "you should be able to pick a more clear stance" I cannot argue against it. I don't feel like making up a read on any of them just to please you. Also, my read on Eden is not a scum read. He is null. Hmm, seems contradictory to a something a few posts ago. Really looks like trying not to give a real read and offer little to the town. On January 01 2015 03:57 Lazermonkey wrote: I dislike Koshi this far. Not only does his reads seem pretty off but he doesn't push geript one single bit, despite the fact that he is voting greipt. If you are town and think someone is scum but noone else is voting that person, you push that person. Koshi is not doing that. I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow. Same complaint that people use on me can be applied here. Says something, but has no point other than having something to make it seem like he is contributing to town. On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote: Hi again. I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can. As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch! Like i've said before, this is reading super "I'm sorry for doing what I did yesterday, forget about it and I will be town today. Lets lynch scum. GO TEAM GO". BLEH, try to hide more? On January 02 2015 01:06 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm posting my thoughts as I go. I said yesterday that I dislike Koshi. After looking at his filter, I still think he looks bad. He didn't post much since yesterday evening so most of this is simply rehashing. 1. (Palmar was already touching on this but I think its a strong point which is worth repeating) Koshi was very very eager to defend Chyz in the early game. I'm not making any preflip associations here, but just by looking at his filter you can see how much time he spends on defending Chyz. This makes it looks like he is making alot of contributions (which in a sense he is) but he is in no way doing alot of scum hunting. Why is it that Koshi felt the ned to defend Chyz so hard in the first half of D1? 2. Not pushing geript despite voting him. 3. Afraid to actually call people scum. Instead saying things like "Your excuses come over scummy". Why not say YOU look scummy? Trying to set up a vote if possible, yet not pushing the lynch or having me against him as much as he could have. So this is pretty interesting. Seems like he is trying to push koshi a little but still not commiting. I don't have anything to add other than laser described himself perfectly in his 3rd point about koshi. Next immediately he forgets about koshi and goes onto geript. The only time before that he talked about geript is that he is slightly towny to him. So from going to leaning towny to super fine with lynching is a pretty big jump and his points he brings up don't merit that much of a jump. So what happened is koshi stuff died off a bit and then geript train was just starting. This would be a great vote for him if geript gets lynched because he was one of the first few but not the lynch starter so it seems like hes just trying to put himself in a good position if geript gets lynched. On January 02 2015 02:04 Lazermonkey wrote: As for rikoty, I think he is mildly suspicious but not lynch worthy. He didn't really do anything but tunnel DH yesterday for a pretty retarded reason. By doing this, he essentially avoided talking about most other things. Making a massive list of all his reads is not bad, but with no follow up this isn't really helping us in any way. I think he could be a potential candidate for lynch D2 though. "I looked at him, not lynch worthy, but lynch tmrw is ok". Seems like he is trying to give rikoty a free pass to live another day...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also following the general town wagon because rikoty not doing so hot so this gets him + town points. On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote: I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for. Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today. ##Unvote ##Vote: geript So he drops his accusation on me (remember, at this point only dr.H was on my ass, everybody was mostly like, meh about me). Again super bandwagony. And up to this point his only real reads that I have seen that aren't rehashed stuff is a little on koshi (which also applies to him) so basically garbage. On January 02 2015 03:02 Lazermonkey wrote: o.O really? I've never played with scum marv. I guess that makes your argument more valid. Still, do you think he is the BEST lynch for today? So from going from, "I'm not lynching till day 2 cause marv is a strong player and I don't have a read on him or is playing bad" into, "well people are talking about marv, might aswell seem interested now". And finally after getting his points for being suspicious of marv he goes back to saying that geript is the best lynch so far. Again this is all unoriginal and is just following w/e the thread seems to be heading towards. I have not seen him give a good reason why he thinks geript is scummy and he just follows the threads flow. Not doing any scum hunting and when does they are pretty weak cases. Always seems to agree with the general tone of the thread and never has anything useful to add. Just lurking on through while still pretending to be "active". Overall I think he is a better lynch the geript and I think people should at least look more indepth on him. Also I have a feeling the ritoky and him are buddied scum. Sorry for long post, I know how you guys hate it but I really think laser is the best lynch today. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Does that mean your third suspect, or? Not really like hes third on my list more for policy. I suspect people over him just I dont expect him to contribute so a semi policy lynch. I dont lynch him today ever tbh. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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TheChyz
Canada238 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On January 01 2015 21:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Forcing yourself to have a read on people that are null is pretty dumb and I have no idea why you consider me being torn on Chyz when there's been so many words on him scummy. Can you explain that to me? I also have no idea why you think that geript quote is super town. Whyo do you feel JAT is "bleeding town out of every orifice"? JAT has completely ransacked a bunch of good town players in one game and I haven't seen anything from him that I think he's incapable of doing as mafia. Why is Robik on the town pile when your reads state nothing townie about him other than a vague promise, and why is RoL scum for saying the exact same thing? Dr. H, your wall of texts tend to K.O. me. Could you run the most important points by me as brief as possible? forcing myself to place people in a definitive pile in my notes is more beneficial for me; particularly on day 1. i think most people should take definitive stances on players personally. the prevalence of null reads being seen as okay only allows mafia to hide better by giving them frequently and ignoring partners. as for you being torn on chyz, i was quoting your post: On January 01 2015 02:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Missed this post earlier. I'd remove Chyz. I'm really torn on him right now. I think Eden is also likely town for prying into every little hole, though I haven't seen him play scum so I'm not sure if he does the same as scum but it fits his town meta even if the bit about Dr.H in the start was a bit weird. I definitely don't want to lynch him D1 in any case. I haven't paid much attention to sicklucker, and I like Kelsier for how he's been pressuring people and asking questions. Here's you stating you're torn on chyz and want geript to remove him from his town list. i see since you have moved on to placing geript as your top scum, will be interested in how you went from talking to him like he is pretty town right here to voting for him as scum when i get there in the thread. as for the read on geript. there's something really town about him electing to withhold information there when he is under pressure. like someone is prying into him for information and rather than be like "here you go to appease you" he tells the person to piss off and he will deliver it later. haven't caught up, don't know if he has. if he hasn't delivered then that's a probelm; if he has then he is town. re: JAT, he is town. read his filter, if you can't see why it is plain as day he is town then you're reading a different thread than i am. i think no one in the entire game is more town than JAT. i think i have only played with him once when he was mafia and like 4x when he was town. the 1 time he was mafia was really apparent based on his voting record. robik i am willing to wait a day on because i respect his aggro play as town, it makes an environment that is hard for scum to thrive in. he promises, if he doesn't deliver he dies tomorrow. plain and simple. i have some hesitations because he is doing a lot of reacting instead of acting which isn't his town style, but i am willing to hold off 1 day. you're misrepresenting my reads if you think my RoL read is the same: On January 01 2015 09:14 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: alrighty then. I apparently missed my role PM just got it. Hi everyone. Let me go catch up to the apparent 25 pages of most likely nonsense that has been posted. this post is a complete mafia lurker prototypical post. "hi i am here, everyone notice me for a second then forget about me, i am behind in pages that is why i am not doing well, will deliver on it later! also i don't have much time!" people who post like this especially early (that aren't named GB) never deliver the goods and usually squeak into the late phases of the game as mafia. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16986 Posts
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Vivax
21691 Posts
On January 02 2015 07:36 marvellosity wrote: i hope vivax comes back before i have to sleep. I posted while you were all busy doing your geript thing. Didn't really get a reaction so far.So yeah, what do you think of the scummy awkward LM post batsnacks showcased. | ||
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