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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 01 2015 22:54 GMT
#1221
@ritoky when did you vote me and why? you dont seem to give a read on me in that post . be back later
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 22:55 GMT
#1222
On January 02 2015 07:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Pathetic. Full.steam ahead on lynching thechyz ill have another big post in a minute. Am i wasting my time or can we revisit this conversation.


If you pick apart everything he said sentence by sentence I probably won't read it.

Maybe stick to the important stuff and if that catches go from there.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 01 2015 22:58 GMT
#1223
On January 02 2015 07:49 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 02 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote:
On January 02 2015 07:41 batsnacks wrote:
SL vote lazer with me. I don't want to be the only person voting him.


Hes like my third its probably not happening.

Does that mean your third suspect, or?


Not really like hes third on my list more for policy. I suspect people over him just I dont expect him to contribute so a semi policy lynch. I dont lynch him today ever tbh.

Hold on. Your primary suspicion on Marv as far as I understand is parroting you without giving you credit despite having the same 2 main scumreads, yet you don't really suspect Lazermonkey whom did the same thing? He even mentioned no one had made the point he made before.

On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi everyone

Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment.

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On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality.

##Vote: TheChyz

Later, when I call him out on it he acknowledges it.
On January 01 2015 00:53 Lazermonkey wrote:
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On January 01 2015 00:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:24 geript wrote:
My initial reaction to Marv was that I think he's mafia. I'll figure it out later on for sure. And I don't have great reasons why I think this, but I do have a 100% read on Marv.

???
Is Marv 100% mafia or not?

Also the fact that you don't want to be friends with me makes me very sad and very angry. The pitchfork and noose kind of angry.
On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi everyone

Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment.

On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality.

##Vote: TheChyz

That's pretty much the exact reason I gave though; not following through with new discussion after saying the current one was pointless, so why do you say "people" are attacking him for the wrong reasons?

Yhea, I know. Though you were (I think) the first person to say that.

What's different about Marv's case where you were supposedly first that makes you suspect Marv over Lazer?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2015 22:59 GMT
#1224
On January 02 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
@ritoky when did you vote me and why? you dont seem to give a read on me in that post . be back later


i voted for you at the lunch period while i was at work @ like 3am, because i wasn't sure i would wake up before the deadline.

i voted for you because i already had a slight scum read on you from your play making no sense and you being stuck in previous game bs; but what pushed you to the top was you coming into the thread right after i posted a massive wall of reads, nitpicking one tiny thing, giving 0 reaction, and moving on. as town, if you really thought i was scum like you apparently do, i feel you would go out of you way to attack and discredit my reads to establish definitively that i am scum or you would simply ignore them because they came from someone you think is scum. you did neither, which isn't what you have done previously as town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 01 2015 23:00 GMT
#1225
I don't think I was mafia in any game we played together ritoky?!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 01 2015 23:01 GMT
#1226
I'm not finished reading but I think that geript (and maybe someone else? I forgot...) thinks I am maffia because they looked at my past games. What exactly is it that stands out to you?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2015 23:02 GMT
#1227
On January 02 2015 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think I was mafia in any game we played together ritoky?!


in my spreadsheet i have you down as 1 mafia game with a note saying voting record. could be an error on my part, but my spread sheet is pretty op.

maybe it was that 30 person cancelled game?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 23:03 GMT
#1228
On January 02 2015 07:45 TheChyz wrote:
Ok I'm back and refreshed a bit cause I think I was getting too emotionally invested for my own health.
Took me a few hours to whip this one up in the scumqt after my team yelled at me for martyring

Anyways I still think we should lynch laser over geript. If anything we can just have geript lynched day 2 if he still continues to play the way he is, but it really seems like it is more out of not being too invested in the game. I still think geript is scummy but not as much as laser.
huh? you don't wanna lynch geript today because you're reading him as disinterested town and scummy at the same time? what is this read?

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On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote:
Hello all.

Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda.

@ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything.

Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality.

##Vote: TheChyz


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On January 01 2015 01:19 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:53 Koshi wrote:
On January 01 2015 00:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
Its not necesarily wrong with making a post saying that a discussion is stupid. The problem is when the only post you have is a post calling a discussion stupid. Why is it, after all the of the discussion and multiple people calling out rikoty, that all Chyz did was saying that the discussion was stupid? Just like Artanis said, why say "do something usefull" and proceed to do nothing yourself?

Granted, he did put up some reads later but only after he was called out.

Don't you think there is a scum motive in trying to look active while not really pushing the thread forward? Because I would argue that is what Chyz did.

Show me a game in which Chyz is a townleader.

My read on Chyz is not based on meta. I have never played nor read one of his games. Is this how he normaly plays as town you think?


2 people were doing something that nobody so far found useful for 20 posts in a row.
1 guy said to those 2 people to stop their shitposting and asks on of them to do something useful in 1 post.

The 1 guy gets crap for doing not more pro-towns things in his 1 post and the 2 people who made 20 shitpost together are not discussed.

---

I don't get it. Is it meta? Scum generally do exactly 1 protown thing in their post?

I get that TheChyz could have also done more digging himself, create more content, actively question people and look for scum. But unless he has a meta for doing those things, I am already content with him doing the 1 thing. It's more than others.

And like you said, he did scumhunting after that. It doesn't matter that people had to ask him for it. It is important that he did it, and I don't see you commenting on the value of those posts. You just say: "He did scumhunting because he was asked for it, so it doesn't count".

The reason I asked if you knew his meta was because you dismissed my by implying that unless you generally act as a townleader, stuff like this isn't scummy. I disagree.

Saying to two people that they should stop arguing over stupid shit is protown. But it is very non-commital. Its okay to do stuff like that as long as you are pushing scum as well. But Chyz wasn't hunting scum, not untill people called him out for not hunting scum.

It does not matter if he scumhunted after he was called out. If you are town and get called out for that, you scum hunt because it helps town. If you are scum, you scum hunt to avoid suspicion. The fact that he started scum hunt after he got called out for it IS not alignment indicative.

I feel what is relevant here is what his motive was. Its clear that he was reading the thread, its clear that he wrote a post, its clear that he didn't care to post any reads untill he got called out for it. What alignment does these action make sense from?

So first he says it is scum mentality for doing all of this and then proceeds to say that what I did is NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE and that the real problem is my motive? Unless you know what my motive is that is a HUGE jump to conclusions off of my first post. During this time in the thread people liked jumping on me and as such laser seems to be trying to find different angles to attack me from. More on this jumping onto the hype train later on.that's what he said in the first place. it's obvious that telling two people to stop an argument isn't scum indicative. he never said it was. motive and scum mentality are the same thing. can you clarify? this is made up. How is it a huge jump to conclusions to speculate on a players mentality? That's like 90% of what scumhunting is.

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On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.

So this is super wishy washy to me. Not really attacking anybody or defending anybody (which is ok) but literally it sounds like im just reading a synopsis of what happened in the thread. Seems like someone not having reads but making some in order to look pro town (yes u can say im hypocrite, but I think i have given a few okish cases, kk?).
You admit yourself you're a hypocrite here so you can't really say it's alignment indicative convincingly at all. If I recall at the time people were asking for these reads

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On January 01 2015 03:23 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 03:16 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:52 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:36 Damdred wrote:
On January 01 2015 02:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Soo, about the 3 "protagonists"

Eden - Attacked DH for his policy-post. While I agree with his points about policy-lynching, it felt wierd (as some others pointed out) that he called DHs post "stiff and akward timed" while still saying he was town and yet ends up saying DH is town. Not reading to much into this though, as I felt he explained himself well later on regarding the DH-post. His interactions with DH seems possible both from town and scum. He attacks Chyz which is nice though.

DH - Got discussion going early on, posted alot (even though some of it was pretty bad). Not lynching today.

rik - tunneled the shit out of DH, didn't post much else. Tunneling is really non-alignment indicative. I'm null on him.


Your eden post has no real conclusion, are you reading them scum null or town? This read feels a bit fabricated to me

I'm not sure what to make of your DH read, what was so bad that he posted to you? Why would you not lynch someone today just because they posted a lot even if a lot of it was bad to you?

Rit got discussion going also the same as DH and posted a good bit but you don't give him the same pass? Why?

Overall this reads pretty fabricated and scummy to me

We are halfway in D1. The Eden and Rit reads are very inconclusive because they've said very little of value this far. DH got the discussion going more than Rit did (that is my impression at least). Compare their filters.


I won't argue that drh has a bigger filter than ritoky, because its obviously the truth. At the time of your reads you had their argument and drh pushing his scum read.

However I disagree that Eden and rit have said little of value a lot of discussion has happened around them so you should be able to take a stance. Hell your Eden read seems like a scum read without you saying that they are scum

Well, if your argument is "you should be able to pick a more clear stance" I cannot argue against it. I don't feel like making up a read on any of them just to please you. Also, my read on Eden is not a scum read. He is null.

Hmm, seems contradictory to a something a few posts ago. Really looks like trying not to give a real read and offer little to the town.
Contradicting what? It was clear that his read on Eden was null. You yourself posted reads when act that you said were soft or not worth voting for or town or null. Hypocritical, not alignment indicative, hardly contradictory. If his read is null, it's null, what makes you think he's trying to force it to be null? He was already forthcoming about his scum reads on robik and you which he was mostly concerned about anyway. Cherrypicking.

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On January 01 2015 03:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
I dislike Koshi this far. Not only does his reads seem pretty off but he doesn't push geript one single bit, despite the fact that he is voting greipt. If you are town and think someone is scum but noone else is voting that person, you push that person. Koshi is not doing that.

I have to go now, will be able to post more tomorrow.

Same complaint that people use on me can be applied here. Says something, but has no point other than having something to make it seem like he is contributing to town.
His point is pretty obvious - that he feels suspicious about Koshi. Explain this from a scum POV, explain how this is any different than the multitude of soft suspicions/doubt townies throw out over the course of a game and is probably in everyones filter. There is nothing suspicious about this.

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On January 01 2015 23:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi again.

I realize that I kinda sucked yesterday. Got way to tunnely on Chyz. I will try to reread some things and reevaluate my thoughts as best as I can.

As for the "case" on me, I think its pretty weak + I will have some time to post today so I don't fear too much for my death. Won't really bother to defend myself right now but I'd rather focus on trying to get a hang on the game and figure out who I think is the best lynch!

Like i've said before, this is reading super "I'm sorry for doing what I did yesterday, forget about it and I will be town today. Lets lynch scum. GO TEAM GO". BLEH, try to hide more?
Again, hypocritical. Pretty much says he's gonna be active later, doesn't seem like he's trying too hard to push town cred out of this....you also have come in the thread to explain your little fake changes of heart.

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On January 02 2015 01:06 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm posting my thoughts as I go.

I said yesterday that I dislike Koshi. After looking at his filter, I still think he looks bad. He didn't post much since yesterday evening so most of this is simply rehashing.

1. (Palmar was already touching on this but I think its a strong point which is worth repeating)
Koshi was very very eager to defend Chyz in the early game. I'm not making any preflip associations here, but just by looking at his filter you can see how much time he spends on defending Chyz. This makes it looks like he is making alot of contributions (which in a sense he is) but he is in no way doing alot of scum hunting. Why is it that Koshi felt the ned to defend Chyz so hard in the first half of D1?

2. Not pushing geript despite voting him.

3. Afraid to actually call people scum. Instead saying things like "Your excuses come over scummy". Why not say YOU look scummy? Trying to set up a vote if possible, yet not pushing the lynch or having me against him as much as he could have.

So this is pretty interesting. Seems like he is trying to push koshi a little but still not commiting. I don't have anything to add other than laser described himself perfectly in his 3rd point about koshi.
I guess him tunneling you for a short bit and voting for you doesn't count. This is a normal way of ramping up the pressure, he's remaining focused on his scumread which spells town to me.

Next immediately he forgets about koshi and goes onto geript. The only time before that he talked about geript is that he is slightly towny to him. So from going to leaning towny to super fine with lynching is a pretty big jump and his points he brings up don't merit that much of a jump. So what happened is koshi stuff died off a bit and then geript train was just starting. This would be a great vote for him if geript gets lynched because he was one of the first few but not the lynch starter so it seems like hes just trying to put himself in a good position if geript gets lynched.

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On January 02 2015 02:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
As for rikoty, I think he is mildly suspicious but not lynch worthy. He didn't really do anything but tunnel DH yesterday for a pretty retarded reason. By doing this, he essentially avoided talking about most other things. Making a massive list of all his reads is not bad, but with no follow up this isn't really helping us in any way.

I think he could be a potential candidate for lynch D2 though.

"I looked at him, not lynch worthy, but lynch tmrw is ok". Seems like he is trying to give rikoty a free pass to live another day...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also following the general town wagon because rikoty not doing so hot so this gets him + town points.


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On January 02 2015 02:46 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm having doubts about Chyz as well. I do think his play is bad and I don't agree with almost anything he has said this fair. But I'm not sure that makes him scum. He could just as well be bad town. I don't disagree with your case DH in the sense that I think all of Chyz plays are wierd and/or bad but can you explain his actions from a scum PoV? If something doesn't make sense from a town PoV but also doesn't make sense as scum, I don't think its a good reason to lynch someone for.

Granted, I would not be super sad if Chyz got lynched today. I do think he is a better lynch than say Robik. But I think geript is a much better lynch for today.

##Unvote
##Vote: geript

So he drops his accusation on me (remember, at this point only dr.H was on my ass, everybody was mostly like, meh about me). Again super bandwagony. And up to this point his only real reads that I have seen that aren't rehashed stuff is a little on koshi (which also applies to him) so basically garbage.

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On January 02 2015 03:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:32 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:21 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 02 2015 02:07 Lazermonkey wrote:
Lynching Marv is a terrible idea btw.

Elaborate.

Basically what Artanis said.

marv will be posting more on D2 no matter what alignment he is. We will be able to judge him better at that point. If he sucks then, sure I can kill him. To kill the strongest player because he is inactive D1, when there are legitimate reasons to be inactive, is hardly worth it.

Besides, even if your really think he is a good target, do you really believe he is the BEST target?

If marv is scum he will probably be happy to even survive day1.

On January 02 2015 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
You didn't even give a read on marv.

I'm not super impressed by marvs play this fair but TBH I don't have a strong read on him nor do I prioritize getting a better read on him atm. My point still stands though, I'm not willing to kill the strongest player because he is playing bad/is inactive D1.

I once thought so too but this logic is actually retarded. If he is the strongest player he may aswell show us that he is town.

So you would rather kill someone for not playing the game the way you want it to be played than to actually kill the most likely scum? Besides, if you really think marv is playing that bad does it make him more scum? It doesn't make sense for scum marv to suck so I feel this is a flawed argument.

Marvs towngame is to play well and very active. Marvs scumgame is to not do jackshit. What do you think he is doing this game?

o.O really? I've never played with scum marv. I guess that makes your argument more valid.

Still, do you think he is the BEST lynch for today?

So from going from, "I'm not lynching till day 2 cause marv is a strong player and I don't have a read on him or is playing bad" into, "well people are talking about marv, might aswell seem interested now".

And finally after getting his points for being suspicious of marv he goes back to saying that geript is the best lynch so far. Again this is all unoriginal and is just following w/e the thread seems to be heading towards. I have not seen him give a good reason why he thinks geript is scummy and he just follows the threads flow.

Not doing any scum hunting and when does they are pretty weak cases. Always seems to agree with the general tone of the thread and never has anything useful to add. Just lurking on through while still pretending to be "active". Overall I think he is a better lynch the geript and I think people should at least look more indepth on him. Also I have a feeling the ritoky and him are buddied scum.

Sorry for long post, I know how you guys hate it but I really think laser is the best lynch today.


That's enough of picking this one apart I got one more coming. Pls dont ignore
RIP Aaliyah
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 23:03 GMT
#1229
I don't know guys. I don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 23:04 GMT
#1230
Another problem I have with lynching Chyz atm is that Dr.H. reminds me off BH his insane pushes and those never end well.
I had a good night of sleep.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 23:04 GMT
#1231
It also reminds me of the times I catch a mafia day 1 and they all deflect and try to tilt me instead of responding to what i'm actually saying. just parrot "drh is stupid" until people believe it
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 01 2015 23:05 GMT
#1232
On January 02 2015 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Another problem I have with lynching Chyz atm is that Dr.H. reminds me off BH his insane pushes and those never end well.

the only problem you should EVER have with ANY lynch is whether or not you think the target is scum or not. anything else is bullshit and only concerns scum players who view votes as tactics
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 01 2015 23:05 GMT
#1233
no-one called you stupid dear
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2015 23:05 GMT
#1234
drH do you think geript is mafia?
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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 01 2015 23:06 GMT
#1235
On January 02 2015 08:05 ritoky wrote:
drH do you think geript is mafia?

O.o
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 01 2015 23:07 GMT
#1236
On January 02 2015 08:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On January 02 2015 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Another problem I have with lynching Chyz atm is that Dr.H. reminds me off BH his insane pushes and those never end well.

the only problem you should EVER have with ANY lynch is whether or not you think the target is scum or not. anything else is bullshit and only concerns scum players who view votes as tactics

Well. It has been quite obvious I don't think he is mafia. But you are growing on me.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
January 01 2015 23:09 GMT
#1237
On January 02 2015 08:05 marvellosity wrote:
no-one called you stupid dear

^
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
January 01 2015 23:11 GMT
#1238
On January 02 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It also reminds me of the times I catch a mafia day 1 and they all deflect and try to tilt me instead of responding to what i'm actually saying. just parrot "drh is stupid" until people believe it


I think it would help you -a lot- if you tried making your case without using quotes at all.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 01 2015 23:13 GMT
#1239
On January 02 2015 08:11 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It also reminds me of the times I catch a mafia day 1 and they all deflect and try to tilt me instead of responding to what i'm actually saying. just parrot "drh is stupid" until people believe it


I think it would help you -a lot- if you tried making your case without using quotes at all.

good post

the problem when you tear apart every single thing is that all it demonstrates is your bias, and then it's hard to read
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 01 2015 23:13 GMT
#1240
oh, i just got to the part in the thread where drH wants everyone to vote for geript, guess he does.

disregard that then. you could have just consolidated the first half of that post into saying you think chyz is deflecting off of his scum partner.
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