Imperial Mafia - Page 62

On January 02 2015 07:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Pathetic. Full.steam ahead on lynching thechyz ill have another big post in a minute. Am i wasting my time or can we revisit this conversation.

On January 02 2015 07:49 sicklucker wrote:


Not really like hes third on my list more for policy. I suspect people over him just I dont expect him to contribute so a semi policy lynch. I dont lynch him today ever tbh.

On January 01 2015 00:30 Lazermonkey wrote:
Hi everyone

Because of NYE, I will only be able to be active for a few hours today. Tomorrow I'll have more time though. Chyz looks scummy. Though I do think people are attacking him for the wrong reasons. The discussion between DH and rikoty WAS stupid. But if you look at Chyz opening post, he doesn't give any actual opinion about the players involved other than that rikoty should move on. Nowhere does he speak about their alignment.


Chyz doesn't follow up with anything at all untill he is called out. Why is it that he the first thing that he felt he had to post was that people was on the wrong track, instead of actually trying give some of his own opinion? This is scum mentality.

##Vote: TheChyz

On January 01 2015 00:53 Lazermonkey wrote:

Yhea, I know. Though you were (I think) the first person to say that.

On January 02 2015 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
@ritoky when did you vote me and why? you dont seem to give a read on me in that post . be back later

On January 02 2015 08:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't think I was mafia in any game we played together ritoky?!

On January 02 2015 07:45 TheChyz wrote:
Ok I'm back and refreshed a bit cause I think I was getting too emotionally invested for my own health.
Took me a few hours to whip this one up in the scumqt after my team yelled at me for martyring

Anyways I still think we should lynch laser over geript. If anything we can just have geript lynched day 2 if he still continues to play the way he is, but it really seems like it is more out of not being too invested in the game. I still think geript is scummy but not as much as laser.
huh? you don't wanna lynch geript today because you're reading him as disinterested town and scummy at the same time? what is this read?




So first he says it is scum mentality for doing all of this and then proceeds to say that what I did is NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE and that the real problem is my motive? Unless you know what my motive is that is a HUGE jump to conclusions off of my first post. During this time in the thread people liked jumping on me and as such laser seems to be trying to find different angles to attack me from. More on this jumping onto the hype train later on.that's what he said in the first place. it's obvious that telling two people to stop an argument isn't scum indicative. he never said it was. motive and scum mentality are the same thing. can you clarify? this is made up. How is it a huge jump to conclusions to speculate on a players mentality? That's like 90% of what scumhunting is.


So this is super wishy washy to me. Not really attacking anybody or defending anybody (which is ok) but literally it sounds like im just reading a synopsis of what happened in the thread. Seems like someone not having reads but making some in order to look pro town (yes u can say im hypocrite, but I think i have given a few okish cases, kk?).
You admit yourself you're a hypocrite here so you can't really say it's alignment indicative convincingly at all. If I recall at the time people were asking for these reads


Hmm, seems contradictory to a something a few posts ago. Really looks like trying not to give a real read and offer little to the town.
Contradicting what? It was clear that his read on Eden was null. You yourself posted reads when act that you said were soft or not worth voting for or town or null. Hypocritical, not alignment indicative, hardly contradictory. If his read is null, it's null, what makes you think he's trying to force it to be null? He was already forthcoming about his scum reads on robik and you which he was mostly concerned about anyway. Cherrypicking.


Same complaint that people use on me can be applied here. Says something, but has no point other than having something to make it seem like he is contributing to town.
His point is pretty obvious - that he feels suspicious about Koshi. Explain this from a scum POV, explain how this is any different than the multitude of soft suspicions/doubt townies throw out over the course of a game and is probably in everyones filter. There is nothing suspicious about this.


Like i've said before, this is reading super "I'm sorry for doing what I did yesterday, forget about it and I will be town today. Lets lynch scum. GO TEAM GO". BLEH, try to hide more?
Again, hypocritical. Pretty much says he's gonna be active later, doesn't seem like he's trying too hard to push town cred out of this....you also have come in the thread to explain your little fake changes of heart.


So this is pretty interesting. Seems like he is trying to push koshi a little but still not commiting. I don't have anything to add other than laser described himself perfectly in his 3rd point about koshi.
I guess him tunneling you for a short bit and voting for you doesn't count. This is a normal way of ramping up the pressure, he's remaining focused on his scumread which spells town to me.

Next immediately he forgets about koshi and goes onto geript. The only time before that he talked about geript is that he is slightly towny to him. So from going to leaning towny to super fine with lynching is a pretty big jump and his points he brings up don't merit that much of a jump. So what happened is koshi stuff died off a bit and then geript train was just starting. This would be a great vote for him if geript gets lynched because he was one of the first few but not the lynch starter so it seems like hes just trying to put himself in a good position if geript gets lynched.


"I looked at him, not lynch worthy, but lynch tmrw is ok". Seems like he is trying to give rikoty a free pass to live another day...............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also following the general town wagon because rikoty not doing so hot so this gets him + town points.



So he drops his accusation on me (remember, at this point only dr.H was on my ass, everybody was mostly like, meh about me). Again super bandwagony. And up to this point his only real reads that I have seen that aren't rehashed stuff is a little on koshi (which also applies to him) so basically garbage.


So from going from, "I'm not lynching till day 2 cause marv is a strong player and I don't have a read on him or is playing bad" into, "well people are talking about marv, might aswell seem interested now".

And finally after getting his points for being suspicious of marv he goes back to saying that geript is the best lynch so far. Again this is all unoriginal and is just following w/e the thread seems to be heading towards. I have not seen him give a good reason why he thinks geript is scummy and he just follows the threads flow.

Not doing any scum hunting and when does they are pretty weak cases. Always seems to agree with the general tone of the thread and never has anything useful to add. Just lurking on through while still pretending to be "active". Overall I think he is a better lynch the geript and I think people should at least look more indepth on him. Also I have a feeling the ritoky and him are buddied scum.

Sorry for long post, I know how you guys hate it but I really think laser is the best lynch today.

On January 02 2015 08:04 Koshi wrote:
Another problem I have with lynching Chyz atm is that Dr.H. reminds me off BH his insane pushes and those never end well.

On January 02 2015 08:05 ritoky wrote:
drH do you think geript is mafia?

On January 02 2015 08:05 DoctorHelvetica wrote:

the only problem you should EVER have with ANY lynch is whether or not you think the target is scum or not. anything else is bullshit and only concerns scum players who view votes as tactics

On January 02 2015 08:05 marvellosity wrote:
no-one called you stupid dear

On January 02 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It also reminds me of the times I catch a mafia day 1 and they all deflect and try to tilt me instead of responding to what i'm actually saying. just parrot "drh is stupid" until people believe it

On January 02 2015 08:11 batsnacks wrote:


I think it would help you -a lot- if you tried making your case without using quotes at all.