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On January 17 2015 21:49 GlowingBear wrote: It was completely obvious that marv and damdred were mafia together when marv completely ignored my meta on him but attacked my meta on KSC (which was extremely weak, I should have not posted it once I realised it was weak while doing it). I should have noticed it.
Again, this is a great game for learning. There are some points in Artanis play that makes him scum but was overlooked (the fluff posts in example) and some meta points.
But saying that town was a complete shit and that is why scum won is a demerit to scum. They have played incredibly well.
I think that the most important lesson in this game is that Overall Gameplay is much more important than vote counts and everything It's less the fluff posts and more the switch off super day2 and the ridiculous push for obvious town Palmar day5. There is no way town Artanis does not see that Palmar is clearly town that day. Worst lynch in a long time.
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That's the only positive thing about this game. I think I learned a few things about the scumplay of super, marv, artanis and damdred.
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On January 17 2015 21:58 GlowingBear wrote: I just couldn't see town palmar agreeing to lynch damdred, scumreading marv, but voting LM with marv and refusing to lynch damdred. You couldn't see town Palmar after he worked his ass off solving the game and being town all day? Staying up at ungodly times after saying he was definitely going to bed? You couldn't see how convenient it was for scum to start pushing Palmar AFTER he went to bed?
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On January 17 2015 22:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 21:58 justanothertownie wrote: That's the only positive thing about this game. I think I learned a few things about the scumplay of super, marv, artanis and damdred. I honestly wouldn't be able to discern a motivated scumgame of mine from a towngame other than the pushing of a mafia agenda I did this game, and that was only because of how strong the townreads on me were that allowed me this luxury. Had people nullread me or if they were suspicious of me, I would probably have never pushed Palmar. Maybe I learned the least about you. But there are most definitely things that I picked up about the other 3.
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On January 17 2015 22:07 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 21:30 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote:On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason. yes, like you, lol. you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever. If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play. If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play. He was townread by some and scumread by some. You should never fakeclaim as town to get townread btw. If you can't do that without then you are just a bad player. I dont think thats what he means. I remember I did it mostly to catch super. I did do that Super did not need to be caught. He was obviously mafia.
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On January 17 2015 22:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 22:04 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 22:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 17 2015 21:58 justanothertownie wrote: That's the only positive thing about this game. I think I learned a few things about the scumplay of super, marv, artanis and damdred. I honestly wouldn't be able to discern a motivated scumgame of mine from a towngame other than the pushing of a mafia agenda I did this game, and that was only because of how strong the townreads on me were that allowed me this luxury. Had people nullread me or if they were suspicious of me, I would probably have never pushed Palmar. Maybe I learned the least about you. But there are most definitely things that I picked up about the other 3. I'd actually like to hear what you learned about me, and it's not to gloat as I'm actually curious to the difference in order to get a better view of my game in general. I think I might also have been a little more detached from the game, not too rushed with finding things out left and right and a few joking posts at times when town would be frustrated and trying to figure out the game hard. If you think that I will share my findings before I am able to use them at least once then you are crazy ^_-
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On January 17 2015 22:11 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 22:09 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 22:07 sicklucker wrote:On January 17 2015 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 21:30 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 21:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2015 21:17 marvellosity wrote:On January 17 2015 21:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 17 2015 21:05 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 13:24 sicklucker wrote: So @vivax it turns out my cop claim screwed with mafia in the perfect way. Im not result orientated but i do play this game for fun. And that was fun Please don't ever do something like this again. You were obviously town for it but that doesn't change the fact that it is simply awful play. Unfortunately a lot of people do that.. for no apparent reason. yes, like you, lol. you just justify it at the time/after saying it was reasonable, when actually it's just the same Noone (town) has ever read me mafia for my fakeclaims. Ever. If it was the case here (was SL read scum for townies?) it was not bad play. If he was read town for it (by townies) it was good play. He was townread by some and scumread by some. You should never fakeclaim as town to get townread btw. If you can't do that without then you are just a bad player. I dont think thats what he means. I remember I did it mostly to catch super. I did do that Super did not need to be caught. He was obviously mafia. well people still voted gerit over him when me and two or 3 mafia voted super so apparently not So did your cop claim change anything about that? Nope.
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ArtanisPerson was signed in when posted 01-04-2015 03:35 PM ET (US) Oh, I didn't know that. Guess you're right. 217 Half the SkyPerson was signed in when posted 01-04-2015 03:20 PM ET (US) I understand what your objective was in /m215, but I don't know if given the OP that is viable, it doesn't look like it. 216 Half the SkyPerson was signed in when posted 01-04-2015 03:18 PM ET (US) I don't understand.
OP: Doctor: 1. Not notified of anything. Saves one save per night, cannot save self or same target twice consecutively. Save is 100%, there is no stacking KP to dodge a doctor save.
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On January 17 2015 22:35 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 22:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 21:58 GlowingBear wrote: I just couldn't see town palmar agreeing to lynch damdred, scumreading marv, but voting LM with marv and refusing to lynch damdred. You couldn't see town Palmar after he worked his ass off solving the game and being town all day? Staying up at ungodly times after saying he was definitely going to bed? You couldn't see how convenient it was for scum to start pushing Palmar AFTER he went to bed? After I strong scumread damdred? No Marv also stayed up, deadline is horrible to him. No, marv did not.
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On January 17 2015 23:13 sicklucker wrote: While I was scum read by 1 or 2 tin foil hat users at a time throughout the game I was a pretty solid #1 or #2 consensus town for the entire game. But this will never work like that again and those 1 or 2 tin foil hat users may very well cost you the game. Seriously, don't ever do something like this again as town.
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On January 17 2015 23:29 Damdred wrote: I doubt your findings are going to mean much JAT I will probably never try hard again at least for a long time. Well sorta
TBH I think part of gbs meta on me is wrong because I ws telling the truth about trying to quit metaing him and stop using quote cases. We will see about that. You better hope that you don't end up on the same scumteam as me then.
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On January 17 2015 23:36 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 23:29 Damdred wrote: I doubt your findings are going to mean much JAT I will probably never try hard again at least for a long time. Well sorta
TBH I think part of gbs meta on me is wrong because I ws telling the truth about trying to quit metaing him and stop using quote cases. We will see about that. You better hope that you don't end up on the same scumteam as me then. If I end up with you JAT i'd try really hard because I know you do. But yea this was just really tiring and I don't want to see scum for a couple games in my pm I can understand that. I was completely exhausted after heavyweight.
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Then you should probably wait a while before you join a mafia game again. Just sayin.
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On January 17 2015 23:45 Hapahauli wrote: Geezus christ this is 500 pages long. And it is only a 21 player game.
Didn't you say some stuff about you doing certain things if someone showed you a 30 page scum filter btw.?
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I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game.
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On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch.
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On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia. The way I see this is that you will try to manage this and get scumread for it. Then you will have to post more anyways to not get lynched. Or you will have to post more to get the lynch you want naturally. And if you do that you will have to cut all those little unimportant posts that can also show that you are town. This is not the best idea you ever had.
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On January 18 2015 00:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote:On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia. I think your push on Lazer at the end actually looked a lot like Townmarv. If you could copy that as scum before you're in mortal danger it'd actually be quite hard to discern your alignment. You are telling me townmarv who is left alive by scum for some unknown reason constantly tunnels on the same lynchbaity player for the last days? No fucking way.
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On January 18 2015 00:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:On January 18 2015 00:07 marvellosity wrote:On January 18 2015 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On January 17 2015 23:59 marvellosity wrote:On January 17 2015 23:57 justanothertownie wrote: I wonder how many pages a townmarv would have gotten this game. hopefully not more, hopefully less. I am actually pretty serious about trying to tone down my posting as town, so I don't have to go through this kind of game again as mafia. I was bound to be in enough trouble this game without trying to at least vomit filter length too :/ It seems like you are really aiming for that mislynch. maybe. i think i can look very town without posting a lot when i am town though. i can't as mafia. The way I see this is that you will try to manage this and get scumread for it. Then you will have to post more anyways to not get lynched. Or you will have to post more to get the lynch you want naturally. And if you do that you will have to cut all those little unimportant posts that can also show that you are town. This is not the best idea you ever had. don't you remember hogwarts? Yes, I do. But you smurfed in hogwarts which is an important difference.
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