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On December 31 2014 16:22 ritoky wrote: i think he made a joke that has 0 alignment indicative information in it. but i am not the one spouting crap about policy lynching liars and shitters. you are, yet you choose not to follow through on that. Unless you can swing this into a bandwagon by yourself by some miracle I'm done wasting time with this | ||
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On December 31 2014 16:59 ritoky wrote: I mean it's only 5 or so posts after his big deal about policy lynching and he is already softening and backing down on it. Also I understand that his initial post on policy is pretty specific to claims and people lying about claims; but some of his later posts indicate to me that he wants to lynch people shitting up the thread and lying in general as an extension of his initial post. I am going to try to stop tunneling so hard for now though, I generally dislike people who really push policy; so I might have some bias. Oh, I finally get what's happening. I wasn't softening or backing down on anything - there was nothing to begin with. I don't care what anyone thinks about any policy. When I said "I strongly believe" it was just the first words that popped into my mind. When I say lying I don't mean rhetorical contradictions necessarily (because I'm prone to them by mistake) or errors, but more specifically fake claims or lying about night actions. When town does this it immediately starts a huge bandwagon and derails the thread. Seeing as I have been in many games where some brilliant townies tried to do this and it turned out badly I do have some genuine concerns but they mean nothing in the context of this game. What does matter and what IS the point is the conversations, accusations, cases that follow. I think of those fluff and policy posts as the spark to start the mafia game proper. I'm not trying to push any kind of conversation or discussion or anything about any sort of actual policy itself. I hope you can understand this. I can see why you would make this mistake and I have not played in a game with so many players unfamiliar with these kinds of things out of me in a long time, so I guess I should be very clear about things like this? | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. what do you think is more important mister critic | ||
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or maybe I'm just buddying you more eden, make a note of that on your pie chart | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:25 TheChyz wrote: Also haven't played in a while but I remember geript very well and all of the poking he is doing lines up the same with how I remember him (as in being fairly strong town) so he is also on my town read. I don't really think I have enough of a read on the others for anything atm Youre both scum. Geript pretends to like me as a cute joke but je HATES the way I play. I can't understand half of what he ever says and if he isn't already tilting at what a stupid jerk ive been then something is very wrong. Maybe he found god. Maybe he realized I am that gosu. But it doesn't fit. Everyone pokes and is always poking. If you're posting right now thats what you've been doing in a sense. I hope you can just quickly clarify if I'm misunderstanding something. | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote: He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean. Hell im.suspicious of everybody? Why. You just said geript seemed town for poking and prodding (whatever that means like he couldn't just ask questions day 1 as scum ). So devalue your own reads and hope you slide by. Not happening. I thought you were ready to tell us which direction the thread should go in? You brought up eden, dismiss the read and call it garbage and then defend the read again | ||
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On December 31 2014 17:36 TheChyz wrote: Meh now i see how ritoky got caught in that discussion with you it is. I have nothing to prove to you since your threatening me with what? Not following my day 1 talk. sounds fimilar. A bandwagon. I'm nearly 100% convinced that you're mafia. I encourage everyone to vote for you and will spend as much time as I need to convince them and to force you to keep defending yourself over and over again. You don't have to reply to me if you think it's a waste of time. I might not succeed if you just ignore me. | ||
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The foundation of my argument is that TheChyz superficially chose eden1892 when asked for his reads. When I dismiss his initial reasons, he further contradicts the premise of his read and then changes the reasons when asked about it by ritoky. Let's go through his post history with context. On December 31 2014 17:06 TheChyz wrote: Hello all. Currently I don't like the direction that dr.H and ritoky are going. Basically I just see it as dr.H doing something not alignment indicative (someone always talks about policy lynches :/ ) and now ritoky is just trying to either prove that dr.H is scum or (my most probably guess) is he just wants to get an early acknowledgement of dominance by trying to force dr.H into admitting he did not follow his own policy (which most people don't follow anyway). I don't see a reason why ritoky would push this so far without any agenda. @ritoky lets move onto something a bit more important than trying to prove your dick is bigger than dr.H's. If there is anything substantial you have then go ahead, but currently your just being more of a filter spammer than anything. This post is supposed to be uncontroversial. I realize now I initially misread part of this post but it changes nothing. The important part is colored in red. On December 31 2014 17:22 TheChyz wrote: Nah i just don't like conversations going in circles for years on end. Eden is sticking out to me as my largest scum read because the constant defensive wording in each post where there always seems to be some idea of not jumpin on somebody too strongly. Just doesn't sit right about how cautious he/she (sorry dont know) is trying to be when there is literally no reason to be cautious other than being afraid of having heat thrown his/her way. dr.H and ritoky lean town. pointless talking mostly but mafia probably doesn't want too much attention for absolutely no reason other than proving a point. Let's sum up the Eden read: 1. Eden is my largest scum read. 2. He is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. He is scummy because he is not jumping on anyone strongly. 4. He is scummy because he is playing cautiously and fearfully. Of all players in this game this about describes Eden the least. What about the myriad of other players who have yet to accuse anyone of being mafia? On December 31 2014 17:17 Eden1892 wrote: in fact Chyz you can have my first vote of the game, it's special to me so please treat us right. Doc I still have reservations about wrt me being unfair, Chyz I really don't. ##VOTE: TheChyz This post comes before TheChyz's second post. Eden is one of only two players in the game to even vote up until this point. Why oh why considering this would eden stand out specifically to TheChyz as a player who is 1. Defensive 2. Not jumping on anyone 3. Too cautious This is the first time in the game that TheChyz expresses immediate suspicion towards someone who votes for him. On December 31 2014 17:33 TheChyz wrote: He just is? Like I can be suspicious too. Hell i'm suspicious of everybody, but its just the wording that he is using doesn't sit right with me. Seems to clean. 1. Everyone is suspicious 2. I am suspicious 3. The only thing that makes eden seem scummy is his wording doesn't seem right. I'm not sure what "The wording isn't right" means. Earlier TheChyz has more specific reasons, but I guess he kinda forgot about them or whatever. It was only his largest scum read so those kinds of things don't matter. Shoot, he's just suspicious of everybody so it doesn't really matter! I wonder when TheChyz will have something substantial to say. Apparently his scumreads aren't very substantial at all as he says himself. On December 31 2014 17:30 TheChyz wrote: I don't have a reason to vote for eden. Because someone is my largest scum read (at this point in the game that means he is the least towny out of all like, what , 5 players) doesn't mean i need to vote on him. Garbage vote atm so why would i do it? With this post let's try to get a masterlist of all the things you think about Eden, your #1 scumread. Sorry if I'm redundant. 1. Eden is my largest scumread. 2. Eden is scummy because he uses defensive wording. 3. Eden is scummy because he is afraid of jumping on anyone. (I would assume this means accusing, pressuring,voting - all things Eden had done before he brought this up) 4. Eden is scummy because he seems cautious and fearful. 5. Eden is scummy just because his wording just doesn't seem right. 6. I have no reason to vote for Eden. 7. Voting for eden is a garbage vote. 8. Eden is the least towny of all the players. And then: On December 31 2014 17:39 TheChyz wrote: Defend what read? Stop spewing garbage and putting it in peoples mouths. I didn't like how eden is formulating his soft accusations and I haven't dismissed it yet. Is it anything to push on, no? But alas donkeys like you like seeing garbage reads so I thought id give you one. Here's another ##vote: DoctorHelvetica Eden's soft accusations resulted in a vote on you pages ago. Now you're accusing me of being soft for not voting for you but eden is soft for whatever reason because I guess you have to stick to your guns or something. I'll wait a few more hours to vote and see how long you chase your tail over it | ||
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