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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 22:41 GMT
#3121
Vivax has put in 0 effort
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:42 GMT
#3122
Artanis marv robik your all town stfu. Help me find zee scummy vets
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:43 GMT
#3123
On January 04 2015 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax has put in 0 effort


You cant honestly believe. Hes just not putting in quality effort
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 22:44 GMT
#3124
When 6 people vote immediately I tend to think "confident" "hes town cause he already has this read"


Scum feel the need to say hey wait a minute guys....we all know there is a lot of time left today. Many other things are being discussed. Who is in a huff about an afk lynch? The least active people in this thread are all people not voting for vivax lol
RIP Aaliyah
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 03 2015 22:45 GMT
#3125
On January 04 2015 07:42 sicklucker wrote:
Artanis marv robik your all town stfu. Help me find zee scummy vets

If you're looking for scummy vets why are you talking about superbia and ritoky?
Also if you think we're all town then that doesn't leave many options. Depending on your definition of vet that'd include Palmar, Dr.H and JAT and I think the latter two are clearly town.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 03 2015 22:45 GMT
#3126
Why do you think Robik's town though?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:47 GMT
#3127
So we can all agree supers playing a lazy game regardless of his alignment. What do lazy mafia do? They bus a mafia team mate with the hope that when/if they flip they get town cred. If super flips mafia ritokys 100% mafia. Hell ritokys mafia as a stand alone.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 22:47 GMT
#3128
On January 04 2015 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax has put in 0 effort


I disagree with this, even if hes poking at a universal town read thats stiill doing something, while the fighting isn't useful for town he is doing something even though he knows hes more than likely being lynched. I fully expect him to give a full list of reads at some point though.

On January 04 2015 07:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can you post your reasons for wanting a Lazer lynch? You made a case back on D1 but a lot of things have happened since then.


Sure,

I think he misrepresents things on purpose to make people look worse, my earlier case I think still stands and he is overtly defensive whenever he gets attacked. Instead of giving reads on people and trying to poke and question them to figure them out he tunnels people when they start receiving attention.

If you look at his filter it looks like the reason his main focus shifted to me was because Kel started in on me and called me scum and thats when the barrage really came full force. I really do not think hes scum hunting in this regard either, for example he posed a list of things i'm not doing and instead of showing how i'm not logically doing this he said go check my filter, and doing this he has painted me in a scummy light trying to influence people to read my filter in that way instead of showing it himself. Feels like he is trying to bias people in that sense.

My earlier case still is their on him as well.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 22:49 GMT
#3129
On January 04 2015 07:43 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax has put in 0 effort


You cant honestly believe. Hes just not putting in quality effort

Ah good job recognizing obvious exaggeration. Town vivax would not tunnel jat in the way he did. Pathetic effort. Vivax kept referring back to one disproven quotemine he did and when people wanted more instead of saying sure like a ln interested scumhunter he whined about jats filter being too long. Youre telling me town vivax doesnt care enough to read his enemy #1s filter? All he was saying aside from that is that we allntrust jat too much. Garbage, if his conspiracy relies on geript being scum he would push geript and scold jat instead (his tilt would probs look more like palmars)

It makes a lot of sense if he knows geript is scum due to them being teammates. He is soft on geript at first but orwtty much only says "ehhhh i dunno about it". Wishy washy. Very quick to assume geript is scum when it supports his jat conspiracy theory though. I dont know what hes done to impress anybody..
RIP Aaliyah
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 03 2015 22:50 GMT
#3130
Marv, why are you dodging me and Artanis?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 22:50 GMT
#3131
On January 04 2015 07:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
When 6 people vote immediately I tend to think "confident" "hes town cause he already has this read"


Scum feel the need to say hey wait a minute guys....we all know there is a lot of time left today. Many other things are being discussed. Who is in a huff about an afk lynch? The least active people in this thread are all people not voting for vivax lol


I disagree with this pretty much entirely. Piling up votes on someone minutes into a day favor mafia especially, they can hide their votes without participating it gives town the incentive to not really look at anything else that is going on, (lazy aspect of town) this leads to complacency.

we probably will disagree with each other, but an afk lynch is a bad lynch 100% of the time.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:52 GMT
#3132
On January 04 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why do you think Robik's town though?


His eod vote. If gerits town robiks 100% town no reason to make that switch in a two town race bad players see that as scummy . Even if gerits not town its not that likely robik would throw in that preemptive vote to keep his partner from getting hammered because no one wanted to change at the time but it is possible just alot less likely.

Robik can be confirmed with a gerit flip so we never kill robik before him anyway.

Marv was the first to defend me so I give him mad town points hes been pretty useful regardless of his filter size.
The one problem I have with him is I feel him and palmer are always mafia together and palmers looking like shit.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:53 GMT
#3133
Also I read robik as town from his day 1 shit. I know most dont
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 22:53 GMT
#3134
Geript - Vivax
sicklucker
damdred - glowingbear

Is my best guess atm. Sorted by confidence of read in tiers
RIP Aaliyah
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 22:54 GMT
#3135
On January 04 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why do you think Robik's town though?


His eod vote. If gerits town robiks 100% town no reason to make that switch in a two town race bad players see that as scummy . Even if gerits not town its not that likely robik would throw in that preemptive vote to keep his partner from getting hammered because no one wanted to change at the time but it is possible just alot less likely.

Robik can be confirmed with a gerit flip so we never kill robik before him anyway.

Marv was the first to defend me so I give him mad town points hes been pretty useful regardless of his filter size.
The one problem I have with him is I feel him and palmer are always mafia together and palmers looking like shit.


I really hate associative reads like this.

The EOD vote really doesn't mean much it was a throw away vote when the lynch was basically secured and robik had to vote somewhere and sheeped it looked like. Robik isn't confirmed with any flip hes confirmed with the effort he puts in, but we will disagree on this like always.

Explain to me how this is super useful marv? And do you have statistics to back up that sentence or is it just a gut feeling? To my knowledge palmar and marv haven't been mafia together in a long time if at all.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 03 2015 22:54 GMT
#3136
On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?

This is patently untrue. I didn't realize there was a voting thread. If you follow my filter I voted in thread twice for vivax. Just consider my vote in thread the point at which it would've been in placed in the voting thread.
Robik looks terrible but he has 11 pages. Him town reading Eden would be consistent with the NK on him if he's mafia. But he's a real pussy as mafia. I haven't read each Vivax post in depth. But from what I've seen today his unique point of view. Rather he's making bad but logical arguments. That's his scum meta where he loses his unique town perspective. Superbia looks just as bad still. His play actually heavily reminds me of DrH in bluelightz where (as mafia) he super raged for catching heat for being inactive and not voting. It's really out of place. I still think Damdred is town, but he 100% is red or blue.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12973 Posts
January 03 2015 22:55 GMT
#3137
On January 04 2015 07:47 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax has put in 0 effort


I disagree with this, even if hes poking at a universal town read thats stiill doing something, while the fighting isn't useful for town he is doing something even though he knows hes more than likely being lynched. I fully expect him to give a full list of reads at some point though.

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Can you post your reasons for wanting a Lazer lynch? You made a case back on D1 but a lot of things have happened since then.


Sure,

I think he misrepresents things on purpose to make people look worse, my earlier case I think still stands and he is overtly defensive whenever he gets attacked. Instead of giving reads on people and trying to poke and question them to figure them out he tunnels people when they start receiving attention.

If you look at his filter it looks like the reason his main focus shifted to me was because Kel started in on me and called me scum and thats when the barrage really came full force. I really do not think hes scum hunting in this regard either, for example he posed a list of things i'm not doing and instead of showing how i'm not logically doing this he said go check my filter, and doing this he has painted me in a scummy light trying to influence people to read my filter in that way instead of showing it himself. Feels like he is trying to bias people in that sense.

My earlier case still is their on him as well.

I'm gonna have to read back on his opportunism then. I don't feel like he really tried to frame you because he's been asking other people on opinions and encouraging us to check for ourselves.

Speaking of Kelsier though, where is he? He wanted me to be here and then he doesn't show up. I feel like I've been stood up to a date.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:57 GMT
#3138
On January 04 2015 07:54 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Why do you think Robik's town though?


His eod vote. If gerits town robiks 100% town no reason to make that switch in a two town race bad players see that as scummy . Even if gerits not town its not that likely robik would throw in that preemptive vote to keep his partner from getting hammered because no one wanted to change at the time but it is possible just alot less likely.

Robik can be confirmed with a gerit flip so we never kill robik before him anyway.

Marv was the first to defend me so I give him mad town points hes been pretty useful regardless of his filter size.
The one problem I have with him is I feel him and palmer are always mafia together and palmers looking like shit.


I really hate associative reads like this.

The EOD vote really doesn't mean much it was a throw away vote when the lynch was basically secured and robik had to vote somewhere and sheeped it looked like. Robik isn't confirmed with any flip hes confirmed with the effort he puts in, but we will disagree on this like always.

Explain to me how this is super useful marv? And do you have statistics to back up that sentence or is it just a gut feeling? To my knowledge palmar and marv haven't been mafia together in a long time if at all.


Hes totally confirmed with a town flip. Are you scum?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 03 2015 22:57 GMT
#3139
whole crapload of pages behind,

##vote: sicklucker

unless i see anything as i catch up that makes him not pretty much automatic mafia
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 22:58 GMT
#3140
Well didnt robik already have his vote sitting on someone? He coulda just faked afk if he was mafia like his 3 or 4 team mates. Literally everyone active at deadline was probably town.
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