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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 23:08 GMT
#3161
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
January 03 2015 23:09 GMT
#3162
On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Well I dont think it clears jat actually. He could just be setting up the next mislynch so no. He honestly didnt give it much effort it was eden and others that lead bats to getting kill. He kind of just had a thowaway vote on bats seeing what sticks which makes him pretty scummy if gerit is. And the fact he doesint want to see a gerit flip

What?
JAT set up the lynch on Bats. JAT made it happen. JAT and no one else.
He earned that townie lynch with blood, sweat and tears and he deserves the credit.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 23:09 GMT
#3163
On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:04 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I could list plenty of people I'm unsure of. If you want my town reads its you, marv, artanis.

Sicklucker forgot about geript again now that the heat is on his other teammate


IM THE ONLY ONE WHO SAID I WANT TO VOTE HIM OVER VIVAX????? I know your town but can you please stop being a donkey

It doesnt matter if you say that...youre doing nothing about itm geript is here so fucking go scream at him then
RIP Aaliyah
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
January 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#3164
On January 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 13:55 Eden1892 wrote:
OK, verdict is in.

I think sicklucker is town. I don't want to kill him today, maybe ever.

Yes it's derpy as hell that he says he changed his vote off geript to batsnacks because he "wasn't confident" in the read on geript, even though he has multiple posts that basically say geript is definitely mafia. But:

(1) His story on his four town reads is completely consistent and held up despite direct questioning. He had explicitly townread three of them and implicitly townread a fourth well before he justified his vote switch by sheeping his townreads.
(2) Sheeping one's townreads off of a vote you like to another wagon late is definitely something a townie would do, and seems like something a townie is more likely to do than a mafia, because a mafia would be worried about how bad "sheep townreads onto a town flip" would look afterwards.
(3) The stars had to have aligned colossally for sicklucker to be mafia and be able to make any kind of strategic switch to kill batsnacks with the rationale that he sheeped his four most consistent town reads. You can't make this up.


+ Show Spoiler [words] +
There's a lot of things really wrong with this defense of SL.

1) It is a post-flip justification not a pre-flip justification; there's a large difference there. He waited around until after people brought up points against him to lay out why he decided to vote swap. If he had been forthright then maybe this is a point, he wasn't so it is not.

2) Sheeping the people you read as town is something people do as either alignment particularly when all of them move. The 2nd part of this seems to imply that geript is mafia. If SL is mafia and both geript is town and bats was town, then it looks equally bad regardless of which you finally land on. However this looks really bad because of points I brought up earlier that I will reiterate in a moment.

3) Talk is cheap, post flip-excuses are easy to find. Votes and vote logic or lack thereof are definitive things, SL drastically lacked. This is a person who is SO adamant about his own reads. He spent an entire phase developing a scum read on geript and from everything I have read up until here that read has not evaporated in the slightest. Only to defer to SOMEONE ELSE'S read that is based on meta. Like I cannot get over this. Why would he as town, with the way I remember him playing town, switch from a non-meta read that he devoted effort into developing to someone else's meta read? It makes absolutely no sense, and he is mafia for it.

Damn, you're right. Eden's defense makes no sense. Let's lynch hi-
oh wait.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
January 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#3165
On January 04 2015 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax has put in 0 effort


well that just isn't true , read this day so far
Zerg for Life
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#3166
I dont have any "meta" read ritoky and nothing you just said makes me mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16332 Posts
January 03 2015 23:10 GMT
#3167
On January 04 2015 08:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Well I dont think it clears jat actually. He could just be setting up the next mislynch so no. He honestly didnt give it much effort it was eden and others that lead bats to getting kill. He kind of just had a thowaway vote on bats seeing what sticks which makes him pretty scummy if gerit is. And the fact he doesint want to see a gerit flip

What?
JAT set up the lynch on Bats. JAT made it happen. JAT and no one else.
He earned that townie lynch with blood, sweat and tears and he deserves the credit.

amen
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 03 2015 23:11 GMT
#3168
On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns?


i'm not sure exactly what you mean?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 23:12 GMT
#3169
like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 23:12 GMT
#3170
On January 04 2015 08:10 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Vivax has put in 0 effort


well that just isn't true , read this day so far

May i rephrase - putting effort into all the wrong places and showing scum mentality
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 23:12 GMT
#3171
On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns?


i'm not sure exactly what you mean?


Town want to build town circles, mafia dont
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16332 Posts
January 03 2015 23:13 GMT
#3172
On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns?


i'm not sure exactly what you mean?

I will translate for you:
"Why don't jat and dandred want to use retarded logic to say that people are 100 % town when they clearly aren't?"
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16332 Posts
January 03 2015 23:13 GMT
#3173
On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote:
like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread?

This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 03 2015 23:13 GMT
#3174
On January 04 2015 08:10 sicklucker wrote:
I dont have any "meta" read ritoky and nothing you just said makes me mafia


you believed in jat's lynch on bats. jat's lynch on bats was almost entirely a meta case. you elected to defer from your non-meta case on geript to believe jat's meta case on bats. that is not something you do as town. you are not town.

you also had that post worrying about looking like shit. appearances and perception are for mafia.

On January 02 2015 15:38 sicklucker wrote:
Towns in a really bad spot I think. I still feel like most of us if not all of us are town but now we look like shit. GAME OVER MAN.


lynch this guy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 03 2015 23:15 GMT
#3175
Gotta pay the drive home. The Eden kill means there's a vet mafia. Vivax doesn't count. He's been around for a while but no reason to not go for 2 get NK as (if he's the only one) vivax has no thread pull. When there are unexpected NKs there's a reason for it. Eden being (universally) townread doesn't explain it best option is that both were medic dodges. It suggests that the NK plan for tonight is JAT plus get or double vet. Likely the former. Maybe a blue snipe though.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
January 03 2015 23:15 GMT
#3176
On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote:
like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread?

This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful.


i have yet to see a reason why SL is town in the entire thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 23:16 GMT
#3177
On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:11 Damdred wrote:
On January 04 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
Why do jat and dandred not want to clear towns?


i'm not sure exactly what you mean?

I will translate for you:
"Why don't jat and dandred want to use retarded logic to say that people are 100 % town when they clearly aren't?"


They dont have to agree 100%. But if there town like artanis they should realize it at least makes him likely town but you dispute even that and call me an idiot
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16332 Posts
January 03 2015 23:18 GMT
#3178
On January 04 2015 08:15 geript wrote:
Gotta pay the drive home. The Eden kill means there's a vet mafia. Vivax doesn't count. He's been around for a while but no reason to not go for 2 get NK as (if he's the only one) vivax has no thread pull. When there are unexpected NKs there's a reason for it. Eden being (universally) townread doesn't explain it best option is that both were medic dodges. It suggests that the NK plan for tonight is JAT plus get or double vet. Likely the former. Maybe a blue snipe though.

Didn't you say Koshi was the most obvious medic save earlier? How is he a medic dodge now?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 23:18 GMT
#3179
Geript will you vote for vivax
RIP Aaliyah
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
January 03 2015 23:18 GMT
#3180
On January 04 2015 08:15 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 08:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 08:12 sicklucker wrote:
like read ritokys case on me. Hes stuck on that I had a meta read on gerit. Thats not true at all where did this come from are you reading the thread?

This is actually true. Ritokys posts are really awful.


i have yet to see a reason why SL is town in the entire thread.


and definitely no reasons why im mafia. Are you going to waste your day 2 afk voting on me and doing a half assed case? If your town at least try to make me look scummy today so I can properly read you as such.
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