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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 21:47 GMT
#3081
Marv, what's your read on me?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 21:48 GMT
#3082
Damdred is defensive.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
January 03 2015 21:50 GMT
#3083
On January 04 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor


i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax.

Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument

Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken.

So now it's your turn...why are my reads off? Why do you think I'm not trying this game? Maybe I'm not as verbose or articulate, but I don't think I ever am really. I wasn't confident d1 based off of NYE and not being able to participate really, but I was around enough to actually make a vote that could possibly matter. In fact, I think the reasoning that I gave for sheeping you wasn't all that bad either.

I guess your reads aren't the worst but they aren't many either. Meh.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
January 03 2015 21:57 GMT
#3084
On January 04 2015 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 06:47 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 06:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 02 2015 09:09 IAmRobik wrote:
From the 2-3 posts I've read of Vivax's, Vivax seems like he could be scum regardless of geript's role. But my plan on d1 is to just sheep. sheep sheep sheep and hope it works in my favor


i don't remember exactly what the posts were, but this is where i first bring up vivax.

Marv felt good to start the game because i thought he was participating but then he seemed to fade. His participation today is more in line with how i think his town game is. He would be another person i might be skeptical of if vivax flips town, but then again, i think his whole thing about "highest filter" "numbers don't lie" was genuine and typical town!marv type argument

Yes, it was. But if you think marv isn't able to say smart stuff or stuff he believes in general as scum then you are mistaken.

So now it's your turn...why are my reads off? Why do you think I'm not trying this game? Maybe I'm not as verbose or articulate, but I don't think I ever am really. I wasn't confident d1 based off of NYE and not being able to participate really, but I was around enough to actually make a vote that could possibly matter. In fact, I think the reasoning that I gave for sheeping you wasn't all that bad either.

I guess your reads aren't the worst but they aren't many either. Meh.

i don't need to have a read on every player in the game. I can take stances on people if you'd like, but they wouldn't be justified and they'd probably be wrong as fuck anyway
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 22:01 GMT
#3085
Damdred's first wordy post looks decent though, and he pushes on you in the start of D1. He comments on the case of Chyz, comments on Geript, attacks Superbia (questionable, but in contrast to the first two points). His D1 was solid, but he seems to have fallen off a bit on N1/D2. He has started to play a bit defensive and isn't asking as many questions as I'd like, but his stance on Vivax is clear in that he doesn't want to lynch him right now.
On January 04 2015 02:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok back from taking the wife.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I'm not willing to call him scum just yet.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 22:06 GMT
#3086
i'm coming round on you Robik.

i'm trying to see if there's a world where geript and vivax are both mafia or if it's an either/or deal. the evolution of geript's read on Vivax is pretty odd towards the end of the first cycle.
On January 02 2015 14:24 geript wrote:
Not ideal. I just assumed I was going to be lynched or at worst Chyz. Best option Vivax. I get why Bat was sketch, but why the last second switch?

can anyone find the rationale for this?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 03 2015 22:10 GMT
#3087
He says that it's based on Koshi's read essentially.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 22:11 GMT
#3088
On January 04 2015 07:06 marvellosity wrote:
i'm coming round on you Robik.

Why?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 22:12 GMT
#3089
On January 04 2015 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
He says that it's based on Koshi's read essentially.

where? mid page 5 of geript's filter Koshi is a mafia lean?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 03 2015 22:13 GMT
#3090
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.

if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 22:15 GMT
#3091
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 03 2015 22:15 GMT
#3092
On January 04 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.

You're asking why he votes in the first place then?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 22:16 GMT
#3093
Does scum geript avoid suspecting teammates? I would have no problem keeping a teammate as a consistent #2 read .
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 03 2015 22:18 GMT
#3094
Also imagine geript at that point thinks hes dead. If he says he likes koshis read plenty of idiots might think vivax is somehow more town. If geript had flipped (lets assume red) instead of bats wouldn't vivax look a little better. I dont think it means anything.
RIP Aaliyah
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 22:19 GMT
#3095
On January 04 2015 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.

You're asking why he votes in the first place then?

well the progression seems to be that there are 3 people who are mafia (me, LM, Robik) while Vivax is generic "GTFO". Koshi is a scumlean. Several posts later geript is voting for Vivax even though I can't see anything related to Vivax in the interim
On January 02 2015 09:49 geript wrote:
I'm ok with both lynches tbh. It kinda sucks to have two martyrs and only one noose.

Meh I'm not martyring. I'm just not really motivated to play right now and idk why. Like I've posted my best thoughts and the best strategic play for me is to get my points out there. Like I'm the obvious frame target so that means that any cop check on me is pretty questionable. So I have to hope that I'm a miller. Or that the cop doesn't come out. Just simpler to get lynched and solve the problem.[/QUOTE]
i hate this too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 22:20 GMT
#3096
repost:

On January 04 2015 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 07:15 marvellosity wrote:
On January 04 2015 07:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:12 geript wrote:
On January 02 2015 11:09 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Or why wouldnt the cop maybe check lm or marv or vivax or one of these other bullshit cases.....hes not thinking about that cause he knows if he survives he needs an excuse for a possible red check. This is atrocious defense

It's not a fucking defense. It's the truth. There's a point when people become so hung up in their own bad logic and reasoning that many times the best solution is to force them out of it. There's really not a good way for me to do that other than die. Plus, if I by some miracle don't get lynched, then every day I'm alive people will be 100% focusing on something that's absolutely worthless. Mafia isn't just about finding mafia. Sometimes it's also assessing the situation and making the right play. If it's the bold play or the selfless play or what not, I do what I fucking think is right for town. So yah. I've posted my thoughts. I've made sure that people know where I stand on things. Koshi's read on Vivax is actually quite solid IMO. That said, town also needs to move the fuck on.


ok right, but that's later. the timing is all wrong.

You're asking why he votes in the first place then?

well the progression seems to be that there are 3 people who are mafia (me, LM, Robik) while Vivax is generic "GTFO". Koshi is a scumlean. Several posts later geript is voting for Vivax even though I can't see anything related to Vivax in the interim
On January 02 2015 09:49 geript wrote:
Meh I'm not martyring. I'm just not really motivated to play right now and idk why. Like I've posted my best thoughts and the best strategic play for me is to get my points out there. Like I'm the obvious frame target so that means that any cop check on me is pretty questionable. So I have to hope that I'm a miller. Or that the cop doesn't come out. Just simpler to get lynched and solve the problem.

i hate this too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 03 2015 22:20 GMT
#3097
Ehh...if anything I'd say it makes Vivax look worse if geript is red and doesn't make him look better or worse if geript flips town.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 03 2015 22:21 GMT
#3098
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
January 03 2015 22:21 GMT
#3099
On January 04 2015 07:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Damdred's first wordy post looks decent though, and he pushes on you in the start of D1. He comments on the case of Chyz, comments on Geript, attacks Superbia (questionable, but in contrast to the first two points). His D1 was solid, but he seems to have fallen off a bit on N1/D2. He has started to play a bit defensive and isn't asking as many questions as I'd like, but his stance on Vivax is clear in that he doesn't want to lynch him right now.
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 02:21 Damdred wrote:
Ok back from taking the wife.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

I'm not willing to call him scum just yet.

Okay, maybe I'm blind but I'm not seeing this. He is saying Vivax got a point, attacking VE for being "to hard" on Vivax and stuff like that but never actually saying that he thinks Vivax is town. If he thinks Vivax is town he is being very unclear about that.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
January 03 2015 22:23 GMT
#3100
On January 04 2015 07:21 VisceraEyes wrote:
He voted in response to Palmar's rant about Vivax think, so if geript is town maybe Palmar swayed him?

tbh i'm just thinking about geript right now.

wasn't palmar's rant there about geript? Vivax was just an addendum...
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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