EPTAlso, ritoky probably sent his present to another scum partner when he claimed he was going to open it. HF, please, open your present if you haven't sent it yet.
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GlowingBear
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Also, ritoky probably sent his present to another scum partner when he claimed he was going to open it. HF, please, open your present if you haven't sent it yet. | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 17 2014 10:35 GlowingBear wrote: But well, my theory that scum could have hammered HF but didn't was proven right. If you're still scumreading me, remember that I was the one that started to ask questions about notification to ritoky. This is exactly what I was trying to achieve at that moment. That's why after his answer I asked anyone who was roleblocked day1 to claim. Also, as holyflare quoted Vivax, LoneMeow was shot by vigi. Proof one is that Obi said he was reading LM as mafia Proof two is that, as only 2 kills happened, Obi was shot AND roleblocked, which is TOO accurate night actions for mafia UNLESS they realise obi was the only one scumreading LM. And as they know they didn't shoot LM night one, it was easy to know who to roleblock and kill. You said okay and moved on. Bats is the one who figured it out. Come on, GB. You can't claim credit for what you didn't do. You didn't even vote ritoky after supposedly trapping him. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On December 17 2014 10:38 rsoultin wrote: ^So why are we talking about HF now? I asked for your reads. You were going to give us the grand mafia plan. How does ritoky being mass murderer change anything? Was your scumlist contingent on which scum role he pulled? You gave us these and voted HF. You said not ritoky or HF today. You proposed froggynoddy before these four. What's going on with you, GB? I said not ritoky or HF as a reaction to see who would try to deflect a lynch on a partner. Scumreading both lian and Vivax for actually trying to do it. Thinking that there was the KSC role and that kita, the disgruntled, died, I thought he was shot by KSC. This would mean that other kills were kush, damdred and LM. LM was killed by vigi. Only 2 kills left. So damdred didn't die from the present, he died from the 2kp, which means SL gave the present to him and killed him to say it was the death present who killed him to gain towncred. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On December 17 2014 10:40 rsoultin wrote: You said okay and moved on. Bats is the one who figured it out. Come on, GB. You can't claim credit for what you didn't do. You didn't even vote ritoky after supposedly trapping him. Because I couldn't get back earlier to change my vote. If you think that bats was the guy who made the hard push, you're wrong. If you really think I would question my scum partner so he slips doing something impossible... | ||
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LightningStrike
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On December 17 2014 10:46 GlowingBear wrote: Because I couldn't get back earlier to change my vote. If you think that bats was the guy who made the hard push, you're wrong. If you really think I would question my scum partner so he slips doing something impossible... I know some people would question their scum partner just to look townie. | ||
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GlowingBear
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On December 17 2014 10:47 LightningStrike wrote: I know some people would question their scum partner just to look townie. Really? "Who did you try to shoot? Did you receive a notification?" Why the fuck I would ask him such question if I wasn't intending to see if another person would claim being roleblocked to see if there was such thing as roleblocking notification? Seriously. Think of it. Also, if we consider that mafia had 4kp night1 (2kp + banker + mass murderer) it means kush wasn't killed by Marley, but by a real shot, which means that there is a possibility that there is no Marley role and therefore no other spirit role and palmar is a dick for putting Scrooge with not other ghosts. | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 17 2014 10:46 GlowingBear wrote: Because I couldn't get back earlier to change my vote. If you think that bats was the guy who made the hard push, you're wrong. If you really think I would question my scum partner so he slips doing something impossible... So what you're trying to tell me is that you were able to post in this thread upwards of 10 times after coming out with your amazing scum team revelation, talking about HF being a mislynch, but you weren't able to change your vote on HF. Uh huh. So what you're trying to tell me is you weren't blue-fishing trying to get people to claim being RBd? If you knew that they didn't receive notifications, then them claiming it would be the same as claiming to have a role. So what you're trying to tell me is that we should give you more credit than bats who actually did find out the real information and got rit to crack. GB...BS on top of BS. | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 17 2014 10:58 rsoultin wrote: So what you're trying to tell me is that you were able to post in this thread upwards of 10 times after coming out with your amazing scum team revelation, talking about HF being a mislynch, but you weren't able to change your vote on HF. Uh huh. So what you're trying to tell me is you weren't blue-fishing trying to get people to claim being RBd? If you knew that they didn't receive notifications, then them claiming it would be the same as claiming to have a role. So what you're trying to tell me is that we should give you more credit than bats who actually did find out the real information and got rit to crack. GB...BS on top of BS. EBWOP: Red-fishing in this game, I suppose. What with the color reversal. | ||
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GlowingBear
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With LoneMeow killed by vigi, these were the mafia nightkills: kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead Damdred the Joyful Child is dead Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead We already know that there are 3 shots here (2 mafia kp + mass murderer) We have to decide if kush was shot by the mass murderer and that either koshi or kita were shot by the banker or banker missed his shot and kush was killed by Marley. By the way, it seems the first option to me, making LS and Vivax claims (much more LS's, he had no motivation to claim day2) look bad. It also means damdred was shot instead of dying by the present. Which means SL is scum or scum is setting SL up. Anyway, hard to believe scum would try to soft confirm SL thinking that he would be scum later. Which means SL is very likely to be scum. Which leaves to the conclusion that SL, Vivax and LS could be scum together. Considering lian tried to deflect the lynch from both ritoky and HF, I pointing FoS at him. This will be my last post for now, because I've only for five left this night. | ||
Fecalfeast
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On December 17 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote: I forgot koshi died... With LoneMeow killed by vigi, these were the mafia nightkills: kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead Damdred the Joyful Child is dead Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead We already know that there are 3 shots here (2 mafia kp + mass murderer) We have to decide if kush was shot by the mass murderer and that either koshi or kita were shot by the banker or banker missed his shot and kush was killed by Marley. By the way, it seems the first option to me, making LS and Vivax claims (much more LS's, he had no motivation to claim day2) look bad. It also means damdred was shot instead of dying by the present. Which means SL is scum or scum is setting SL up. Anyway, hard to believe scum would try to soft confirm SL thinking that he would be scum later. Which means SL is very likely to be scum. Which leaves to the conclusion that SL, Vivax and LS could be scum together. Considering lian tried to deflect the lynch from both ritoky and HF, I pointing FoS at him. This will be my last post for now, because I've only for five left this night. PRAISE GB | ||
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GlowingBear
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On December 17 2014 10:58 rsoultin wrote: [/b]So what you're trying to tell me is that you were able to post in this thread upwards of 10 times after coming out with your amazing scum team revelation, talking about HF being a mislynch, but you weren't able to change your vote on HF. Uh huh. Reactions were important for the thing I've claimed. Mafia was probably surprised with what I said and probably were going to overreact, deflect, or give TMI (HF said it was obvious when it wasn't for me, I didn't see Vivax quoting obi; SL co inf and talking about roles and that I HAD TO SPECIFICALLY GO THROUGH THE VIGIS FILTER AND SHOW THAT HE KILLED. This is too much insight, he KNEW it was in obis filter) So what you're trying to tell me is you weren't blue-fishing trying to get people to claim being RBd? If you knew that they didn't receive notifications, then them claiming it would be the same as claiming to have a role. No it's not, there are host who says when a person was roleblocked even if they don't have a role So what you're trying to tell me is that we should give you more credit than bats who actually did find out the real information and got rit to crack. I'm telling you that bats only got ritoky lying because I've questioned ritoky things that a partner would never ask in order to prevent him from slipping. GB...BS on top of BS. Seriously, I'm reading you as town, but you're making it so difficult to see you after these simple facts... Now I have only 4 posts and I'm really going to keep them. Good night. | ||
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GlowingBear
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Answer this or you're going to get lynched tomorrow, I guarantee. Argh it's too hard to stop posting | ||
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rsoultin
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On December 10 2014 17:45 Palmar wrote: Clarification: Roleblocks, Saves and anything like that are never announced to the player. You will not know if you're roleblocked (although if you have a role you might be able to deduce it) and you will not know if you saved someone or got saved from a KP. First day, yo. No mystery. And even if you didn't remember (I didn't), that doesn't change that if people didn't receive notifications and claimed being RBd just to say as much, that outs them. So we're...scumreading who for doing the same thing you did to see if they could figure out who OWS shot? He clearly thought that he'd received a notification. If he's the mass-murderer there's no reason to attempt to lie about that, since he probably did take a shot at someone. If he thought that he'd received a notification, what's to say the rest of the scum team didn't? So how would a partner never ask that, then? *coughahemwifomcough* Oh, btw, if you haven't figured it out yet, I'm not really scared of what alignment you believe me to be. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On December 17 2014 10:35 GlowingBear wrote: But well, my theory that scum could have hammered HF but didn't was proven right. If you're still scumreading me, remember that I was the one that started to ask questions about notification to ritoky. This is exactly what I was trying to achieve at that moment. That's why after his answer I asked anyone who was roleblocked day1 to claim. Also, as holyflare quoted Vivax, LoneMeow was shot by vigi. Proof one is that Obi said he was reading LM as mafia Proof two is that, as only 2 kills happened, Obi was shot AND roleblocked, which is TOO accurate night actions for mafia UNLESS they realise obi was the only one scumreading LM. And as they know they didn't shoot LM night one, it was easy to know who to roleblock and kill. Mass murderer 100% shot on day one its just the correct play so veg didnt kill lonemeow. It doesint matter tho just means are veg really did shoot kush | ||
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sicklucker
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On December 17 2014 10:39 GlowingBear wrote: I don't know if the sudden realisation from Vivax was TMI or smart townie, because it took me long to understand the nightkills. Also, ritoky probably sent his present to another scum partner when he claimed he was going to open it. HF, please, open your present if you haven't sent it yet. Hs sent his present to ff how do you miss this? You think ff is town so that means hf is town by the logic you used earlier. | ||
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Vivax
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On December 17 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote: I forgot koshi died... With LoneMeow killed by vigi, these were the mafia nightkills: kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead Damdred the Joyful Child is dead Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead We already know that there are 3 shots here (2 mafia kp + mass murderer) We have to decide if kush was shot by the mass murderer and that either koshi or kita were shot by the banker or banker missed his shot and kush was killed by Marley. By the way, it seems the first option to me, making LS and Vivax claims (much more LS's, he had no motivation to claim day2) look bad. It also means damdred was shot instead of dying by the present. Which means SL is scum or scum is setting SL up. Anyway, hard to believe scum would try to soft confirm SL thinking that he would be scum later. Which means SL is very likely to be scum. Which leaves to the conclusion that SL, Vivax and LS could be scum together. Considering lian tried to deflect the lynch from both ritoky and HF, I pointing FoS at him. This will be my last post for now, because I've only for five left this night. You forget to consider protective roles, and I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my claim is completely legit, the mass murderer only has 2 bullets he can withhold, and sl's claim is also most likely legit. Basing all your reads on night actions and setup speculation presuming you knew what they were is veeeery bad play. On the other hand you 180 ° on HF knowing that scum preferred voting Kelsier over him (might be that he asked to be bussed while being in hospital cause he couldn't play though, so his buddies could harvest some cred, that's also pretty speculative). Ultimately it's better to focus on the actual plays rather than all this stuff, although given the difficulty in reading HF's plays it might be worth giving it a shot in his case. | ||
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Vivax
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On December 17 2014 10:38 rsoultin wrote: ^So why are we talking about HF now? I asked for your reads. You were going to give us the grand mafia plan. How does ritoky being mass murderer change anything? Was your scumlist contingent on which scum role he pulled? You gave us these and voted HF. You said not ritoky or HF today. You proposed froggynoddy before these four. What's going on with you, GB? And when I say you 180 ° on HF I'm referring to this. Wtf are you doing??? You're so inconsistent, I'm not sure if you're still drunk. | ||
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sicklucker
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GlowingBear
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Who was it? I'm making a fucking ton of sense and any townie can clearly see my stream of thoughts. | ||
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