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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 17 2014 02:42 GMT
#3821
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 17 2014 02:52 GMT
#3822
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?
I'm adorable.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 17 2014 02:56 GMT
#3823
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


Okay, I'll give you that. That's actually a fair point. -shrugs- Still don't know if anyone will own up to it, even if they are still alive.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 17 2014 03:01 GMT
#3824
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


I didn't send the present to fecal you tool i got the present n1 and sent it on day 2. That person then sent it to fecal day 3 and here we are with fecal receiving it n3.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 17 2014 03:03 GMT
#3825
Also people are still saying I'm mafia after trying to get the most vital mafia role shot n1. Yeh right.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 17 2014 03:07 GMT
#3826
I mean like people have given a 1000 reasons why ritoky hopping onto me would have actually been a BAD mafia play and people are still talking about that over and over again without acknowledging it. Now we know ritoky was mm, sticking himself in the forefront of the mislynch would have been the worst play of the century.

Will do some actual analysis now because the gb ritoky team i called out day 1 is looking super real right now. Thinking it's templar/oats/gb atm.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 17 2014 03:09 GMT
#3827
GBs back and forth like a yoyo tonight. I'm not even sure what his actual scumreads are.

ls,sl and vivax is it?
or sl, vivax and lian?
or froggynoddy?
or HF?

Kinda nutso for someone who was so sure earlier he was practically crowing. Yo, GB, if you're drunk again you should probably not post. (I was very nice and did not include your drunk posts in my case against you.)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 17 2014 03:23 GMT
#3828
On December 17 2014 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


I didn't send the present to fecal you tool i got the present n1 and sent it on day 2. That person then sent it to fecal day 3 and here we are with fecal receiving it n3.


And that person is...?

Rsoultin, it's pretty clear who I'm scumreading right now and you can take froggynoddy out of that list.

I may be wrong on SL because he claimed that he sent a present to damdred and maybe, MAYBE mafia preferred to kill damdy instead of roleblocking him night2. I don't really know.

Really, you should read what I wrote. There are some mistypings but you can clearly see my stream of thought. You've been hard defending HF and ignoring my points and trying to discredit me for a long time. I'm ignoring you because you're either scum or donkey town for now.

I think I have just one more post left now. Gonna really try to sleep.
I'm adorable.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 17 2014 03:29 GMT
#3829
On December 17 2014 10:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 10:29 Alakaslam wrote:
CHUPAZI

Hey so like

Skill mah broddaz

So

Tell me; is Vivax or LS marley or what is ism? Because

There are not enough too many ghosts sson


Why did you ninja vote oatsmaster?

For the way of sheep Pete

WHACK
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 17 2014 03:32 GMT
#3830
Right on da

Ok it is old now
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 03:32 GMT
#3831
On December 17 2014 11:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


Okay, I'll give you that. That's actually a fair point. -shrugs- Still don't know if anyone will own up to it, even if they are still alive.


Holy flare had the present yesterday. At night he sent it to ff. FF received it today and cant open it untill tonight. Someone who died n1 or a mafia sent i to hf who had it on d1.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 17 2014 03:34 GMT
#3832
On December 17 2014 12:07 Holyflare wrote:
I mean like people have given a 1000 reasons why ritoky hopping onto me would have actually been a BAD mafia play and people are still talking about that over and over again without acknowledging it. Now we know ritoky was mm, sticking himself in the forefront of the mislynch would have been the worst play of the century.

Will do some actual analysis now because the gb ritoky team i called out day 1 is looking super real right now. Thinking it's templar/oats/gb atm.


This is a very likely world.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 17 2014 03:42 GMT
#3833
On December 17 2014 12:23 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 12:01 Holyflare wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On December 17 2014 11:42 rsoultin wrote:
Lol I guess we're all mafia then, according to GB logic

How do you know the person who gave it to him is even still alive, GB? We've got a lot of dead right now ^^


If he has got the present day3, the person was still alive day2.
I the person was still alive day2, if it wasn't Kelsier who gave the present to HF, it was either obi or Trfel.

Considering Trfel ended up voting HF and obi wasn't sure about HF, they probably didn't send him the present.

My question continues: who sent the present to holyflare?


I didn't send the present to fecal you tool i got the present n1 and sent it on day 2. That person then sent it to fecal day 3 and here we are with fecal receiving it n3.


And that person is...?

Rsoultin, it's pretty clear who I'm scumreading right now and you can take froggynoddy out of that list.

I may be wrong on SL because he claimed that he sent a present to damdred and maybe, MAYBE mafia preferred to kill damdy instead of roleblocking him night2. I don't really know.

Really, you should read what I wrote. There are some mistypings but you can clearly see my stream of thought. You've been hard defending HF and ignoring my points and trying to discredit me for a long time. I'm ignoring you because you're either scum or donkey town for now.

I think I have just one more post left now. Gonna really try to sleep.


I have read what you wrote. I saw your earlier world. I can see your setup speculation revolving around the 4 possible ks...but it is definitely a stretch to assume that there was no marley and therefore are no ghosts -shrugs- or that no one was RBd or shot into the vet, so...

Basing your lynch picks off that was poor analysis. You've also waffled a lot on HF since you came back into the thread, so it really isn't clear who your scumreads are. Do you have cases for any of them or is this all based on mechanics? Cause we can speculate on mechanics until the cows come home.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 17 2014 06:03 GMT
#3834
Hey so
Like

Yeah
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 17 2014 07:37 GMT
#3835
whats happening
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 17 2014 08:46 GMT
#3836
I know, right? Like, nothing
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 17 2014 08:57 GMT
#3837
On December 17 2014 11:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I forgot koshi died...
With LoneMeow killed by vigi, these were the mafia nightkills:

kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead

We already know that there are 3 shots here (2 mafia kp + mass murderer)
We have to decide if kush was shot by the mass murderer and that either koshi or kita were shot by the banker or banker missed his shot and kush was killed by Marley.

By the way, it seems the first option to me, making LS and Vivax claims (much more LS's, he had no motivation to claim day2) look bad.

It also means damdred was shot instead of dying by the present. Which means SL is scum or scum is setting SL up. Anyway, hard to believe scum would try to soft confirm SL thinking that he would be scum later. Which means SL is very likely to be scum.

Which leaves to the conclusion that SL, Vivax and LS could be scum together.

Considering lian tried to deflect the lynch from both ritoky and HF, I pointing FoS at him.

This will be my last post for now, because I've only for five left this night.


You forget to consider protective roles, and I'm sorry to disappoint you, but my claim is completely legit, the mass murderer only has 2 bullets he can withhold, and sl's claim is also most likely legit.

Basing all your reads on night actions and setup speculation presuming you knew what they were is veeeery bad play. On the other hand you 180 ° on HF knowing that scum preferred voting Kelsier over him (might be that he asked to be bussed while being in hospital cause he couldn't play though, so his buddies could harvest some cred, that's also pretty speculative).

Ultimately it's better to focus on the actual plays rather than all this stuff, although given the difficulty in reading HF's plays it might be worth giving it a shot in his case.


For once I can agree... It's pretty weak to base your reads around night actions you can't even know for sure. And Vivax/LS probably can't be scum (assuming the setup isn't something stupid like Scrooge without Ghosts).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 17 2014 08:59 GMT
#3838
On December 17 2014 16:37 liancourt wrote:
whats happening


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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21991 Posts
December 17 2014 09:16 GMT
#3839
Xata, help me out, these are the possible scummers in my book atm:

Templar
Froggy
Oats
GB
HF
You(?)
Hell even Fecalfeast doesn't seem unfeasible even tho he got greenchecked (I revisited the N1 kills, kita, Damdred, Koshi, all of them suspected ritoky, but most also FF, Kita suspected Oats, and froggy was suspicious-y.

Can you pick 3 you would lynch and tell me who you'd rather see as scum between HF/GB?

Not like you never talked about it but I 'd like to know your present opinion.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
December 17 2014 09:23 GMT
#3840
On December 17 2014 18:16 Vivax wrote:
Xata, help me out, these are the possible scummers in my book atm:

Templar
Froggy
Oats
GB
HF
You(?)
Hell even Fecalfeast doesn't seem unfeasible even tho he got greenchecked (I revisited the N1 kills, kita, Damdred, Koshi, all of them suspected ritoky, but most also FF, Kita suspected Oats, and froggy was suspicious-y.

Can you pick 3 you would lynch and tell me who you'd rather see as scum between HF/GB?

Not like you never talked about it but I 'd like to know your present opinion.


Not that much has changed with ritoky's flip. At least 2 of GB/Oats/Templar are probably scum and then we should look at people like Tube... I've yet to see a good reason for thinking that HF is scum. *Maybe* that vote split argument but it's pretty WIFOM and not based on his own play at all.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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