TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 172

On December 16 2014 08:13 sicklucker wrote:


Na he has one bullet left which means hes condifent hes not going to day. Your just repeating stuff stay away from this stuff ;p

On December 16 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
How obvious would it be if he went against everything he had just said earlier and lynched me over mafia??

On December 16 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:


I would bus kelsier 10/10 times if that case was made and he was afk. I imagine most people would too. It doesn't matter if i look worse or not. It doesn't change my alignment. Judge me on what I do and not what yoi think mafia ritoky would be thinking at that random point in time.

If you think I'm mafia because I'm playing badly and whatever then fine, you're wrong but i won't hate you for it, I'm playing pretty damn suboptimally but the fact of the matter is i called out this fucker yesterday, pushed him non-stop got berated by ALL OF YOU saying it doesn't make ritoky mafia and that we should let him live with a fucking present or whatever when actually I was right and it was by far the right play to just shoot him when i asked obi to n1.

On December 16 2014 07:03 Tubesock wrote:


My birthday is December 15th. HF saw my icon change, I hope others did too. Just for the record, I will never open a present, I will pass it on. Should I die in the night, it will not be due to a death present.

There wasn't much reason to post for me as the wagon was on Holyflare. It needs to go back there or to one of my other suspects. In case you forgot:

Holyflare
Sicklucker
KelsierSC
The_Templar
Froggynoddy
Lightningstrike

My reasoning hasn't changed. If anything my thoughts have been reinforced.

On December 16 2014 08:21 liancourt wrote:


then how do u explain what truffles did

he went against everything he said, he even made a case on mafia and yet voted you in the end but was actually the seer

some people just dont act rationally

you need to die today and flip so i can anlayze day 2 votes.

I'm thinking a world where mafia thought they had it good with majority votes on tube and was pretty lenient with how they played and was raped in the ass when votes moved off of tube. The train going on ff failed and went back to kel and mafia had to decide on which mafia to bus. They picked kel because HF prolly has a better role than him. In this instance rit and xat look scummy as hell. But to confirm my suspicions HF needs to flip.

Vote HF kill rito tomorrow.

On December 16 2014 08:25 The_Templar wrote:
Wait wait wait, so Tubesock is saying that Holyflare, who is town, is giving Tubesock, who is mafia, a present?

On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:


You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.

And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.

I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?

and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed.

On December 16 2014 07:19 Tubesock wrote:


OR mafia claims it for me as I'd be dead from a mafia night kill. Page 160 Sicklucker and Holyflare and talking about Presents making it look like a fight. Holyflare acts frustrated because no one is listening to him and he's the biggest wagon blah blah then randomly says (at the top of page 161) "I sent a present yesterday. Happy birthday."

It's a nothing comment, until after the next night. Someone will mention that they saw my icon change to the happy birthday one, then holyflare can confirm, then you guys can argue about if I opened the present and killed myself.

So, I am going to do my best to disrupt this play. I am going to be perfectly clear and reemphasize that under no condition will I be acknowledging receipt of a present, and I'm also saying under no circumstances will I be opening one. They can not cast doubt by claiming I must have been killed with the death present.

If my 6 are right (OMG SCUMSLIP???) then think about if this is a good play or not. And look at who is involved. Oh, all of them except Templar who is lightly being bussed by Holyflare. Hmmm.

On December 16 2014 08:07 Holyflare wrote:


Just play the game and lynch obvious mafia??? It's not difficult to split your reasoning into if i flip town and if i flip mafia is it? Me dying changes absolutely nothing but 1 mislynch closer to losing because you don't want to lynch confirmed mafia first.

Stop spamming the same useless nonsense please i know you're better than that

On December 16 2014 08:29 liancourt wrote:


i'm trying to think of all possiblities

a world where town rit is playing so bad that he shot into a vet or protectee

On December 16 2014 07:28 Half the Sky wrote:
Back from dinner.

Just checked the rules, nothing in the OP about RB notifications. BH's student mafia rules do say you are notified of getting RBed, but this isn't a BH game.

On December 16 2014 08:28 Holyflare wrote:


I'm not talking about what i would do. I implied that if i was mafia and saw that case then i would think my team mate would die 100% of the time, especially as loads of people switched at the time and then just bus him.

Gb comes along and says rah rah my case is awesome but at that point people had already pointed out the multiple holes in his case and ritoky was one of them and couldn't join the anti mafia train.

I am playing badly if I'm even up for consideration of being lynched.

On December 16 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:


You were afk at the end of d2, when the case was made, so there wasn't an opportunity for you to bus him based on that case.

And I'm not judging you based on what mafia ritoky would be thinking, I am judging you based on what mafia KSC and what mafia ritoky actually did.

I don't think you're playing badly not sure why you'd even say that. I don't think anyone this game, aside from SL, has said you were playing badly and who cares if he thinks that anyway?

and you pushing one of your scum buddies is not hard to believe, especially if you thought they were playing suboptimally, which, I think ritoky was playing sub-optimally with all his "presents" stuff as it got him killed.

On December 16 2014 08:33 batsnacks wrote:


Let's just ignore everything but two facts for the purposes of this post:

KSC, who was confirmed mafia, did not switch his vote to you despite being in the thread and posting at eod d2.

ritoky, who I think is pretty obviously mafia, also did not switch his vote to you despite scum reading you for half the day.

None of that has anything to do with how well you played. Both of those things make you scummy.

So no, I don't think you're playing badly if you're a probable lynch target. I definitely never said you were playing badly. I never meant to imply it. It's not part of my message.

On December 16 2014 08:31 Holyflare wrote:


He's already claimed being rb'd and that he received a notification. How many lies are you going to accept before you realise he's mafia??

On December 16 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:

I didn't word that very well- I'm seeing it from his perspective here. According to him, Holyflare is mafia who game town a present, which makes very little sense...