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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 18:07 GMT
#481
On November 05 2014 03:05 batsnacks wrote:
KSC did you mean sentinel when you said grack? I don't see grack anywhere in that post.


those were two seperate points.

i meant to quote the bit where he said "does grack normally traffic cop"

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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 18:09 GMT
#482
## Vote Cricketer12
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 04 2014 18:11 GMT
#483
Why hasn't mafia voted cricket yet? Is it because cricket is mafia? Is it because jasmine is town?

#unflippedassociations

##vote: cricketer12
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 04 2014 18:12 GMT
#484
Stop that ninja shit I hate that
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 18:12 GMT
#485
On November 05 2014 03:12 batsnacks wrote:
Stop that ninja shit I hate that


fucking lol
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25557 Posts
November 04 2014 18:14 GMT
#486
Vote Count

Serejai (3): kushm4sta, FecalFeast, Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Superbia
Elvis! (2): Serejai, LightningStrike
Kushm4sta (1): Breshke
Cricketer12 (2): KelsierSC, batsnacks

Not Voting (4): Immaterial, Cricketer12, Grackaroni, [UoN]Sentinel

Currently, Serejai is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 04 2014 18:27 GMT
#487
KSC if voting cricket isn't an option, who do you vote?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 18:28 GMT
#488
On November 05 2014 02:46 KelsierSC wrote:
sentinal if you had to pick between elvis and sere who would you vote on?

Not very sure. See I feel like Serejai is just reacting against people who call her scum, but then when she goes after Elvis, he does the exact same thing. I feel like both of them are picking a person who they have a feeling is scum, and then finding everything scummy about them. And they've got each other in the crosshairs.

I'd say Sere looks a little more scummy simply because she's trying to point her finger everywhere she can to try and give the town another potential target that isn't her.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:32 GMT
#489
##unvote

##vote Cricketer12
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:33 GMT
#490
I don't actually think Cricketer12 is mafia but I know I'm town and he's the only person I can throw my vote to at the moment.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:34 GMT
#491
I'd actually rather vote for kush over cricket but apparently everyone else is ok with him being AFK.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 18:37 GMT
#492
On November 05 2014 03:33 Serejai wrote:
I don't actually think Cricketer12 is mafia but I know I'm town and he's the only person I can throw my vote to at the moment.

Who do you think is mafia? Vote for them and make a case.

Do you still think Elvis is scum?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
November 04 2014 18:43 GMT
#493
I'm sitting here pulling my beard while I read serejai's posts. I just woke up and have been checking thread from phone.
Are we voting cricket for being a lurker, or should I re-read because readingfeast?
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 18:46 GMT
#494
##Vote: Serejai

That vote and the rationale doesn't sit well at all with me. Explain yourself, please.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 04 2014 18:47 GMT
#495
I think now is the time to talk about cricket.

Do we vote him or take a chance with a modkill/replacement/possibility of him suddenly returning?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 04 2014 18:49 GMT
#496
On November 05 2014 03:47 batsnacks wrote:
I think now is the time to talk about cricket.

Do we vote him or take a chance with a modkill/replacement/possibility of him suddenly returning?

He didn't vote, so I'd say we shouldn't waste our efforts unless he shows up just to vote or is modkilled eventually.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 18:58 GMT
#497
My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him.

I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why:

This is a player that is new to mafia; his first game. He even states this somewhat at the beginning of the thread by posting that he doesn't understand what tunneling is, and votes for Superbia because everyone else was at the time.

On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.


He reaffirms that he is a new player by posting that he had to go to some mafia wiki and look up how to play:

On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.


A few hours later he makes a giant post about various people:

On November 04 2014 14:47 Immaterial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 00:55 LightningStrike wrote:
He made some rather strange posts earlier in the thread
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.

He seems to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post
On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:38 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.


Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts?


I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote:
My reasons for super

1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town.
2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game.
3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly
this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1.
4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread


Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound.

It's very fishy for me with those two posts.


Sorry guys, haven't had a whole lot of time today so I'm just now reading the thread. Time is likely to continue to be tight for me until Thursday due to work obligations.

I see that many people are getting scummy vibes from me, and I understand to a degree. I readily acknowledge that my posts haven't been particularly valuable, and my analysis has been limited. Hopefully I can change the trend by extending this post beyond merely defending myself. But I have to start there:

In response to Lightning's post in particular, you said that I "seem[ed] to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post." In fact, the only reason I made the post in question is that I was prompted by Breshke to explain further. My explanation perhaps was not based on the most sound possible reason, but it was my sincere feeling at the time regarding Superbia.What some of you have perceived as suspicious or scummy behaviour is in fact just my honest efforts at forcing myself to contribute. My natural tendency is to lurk and speak when spoken to.

I will attempt now to give my overall impressions of some of the other players in here and my reads on them. My confidence level on all of these reads is quite low, but I want to at least demonstrate that I'm putting effort towards trying to figure things out.

I was sketched by the Superbia thing, but now that he's back I don't really detect negative vibes from him. I feel like I jumped the gun significantly on my vote, and as such would like to ##Unvote. I intend to think my next vote through more carefully -- if not based on my own analysis, I will try to make my it based on sound analysis from another poster.

I was initially sketched out by Breshke. He just asked a lot of questions and made a post or two that I thought were questionable early (the "decent player" comment and the one about mafia putting in effort). As the thread has progressed, my read has reversed. At this point, I feel Breshke has been one of the more concise and contributive posters.

My read on lightning is neutral. His suspicion against me was reasonable, but I do think designating me as "top scum" is a bit much.

In regard to Elvis!, somewhat early on I had a strange thought. Elvis! kept mentioning the Superbia posts, but repeatedly placed emphasis on the fact that how Super follows up the posts is what really matters; in his words, " His reaction is all that counts. So I imagined that Elvis + super were both aligned mafia, and that Super would come back and make a post or series of posts that would negate the suspicion drawn early. Thereby wasting our time + evading blame. In this scenario, Elvis' posts were intended to help ensure that everyone only paid attention to Super's subsequent reaction. Perhaps this is silly, and I'm not even close to convinced of it now (if i was I may not have retracted Super vote), but it's a thought.

As for Elvis' more recent posts, I've seen some people voting for him to by lynched, but I haven't seen any posts from him that really jump out at me. I do get a general negative vibe from him, but I can't substantiate the claim enough to really say that I read him as scum.

Batsnacks -- initial read scum (pretty unfounded in retrospect), now neutral.

Grack -- Neutral, leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

FF -- Neutral leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

Seraj -- Leaning scum. His initial comment was of absolutely zero value and was intended to be of zero value. As well, I disagree with this read: "Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia." I just didn't get that feeling at all, and this comment seemed baseless. His subsequent vote for Fecalfeast seemed somewhat suspect as well.

This is my best effort at analyzing what's happened so far. If there's a point I didn't extrapolate on, you can bet that it's more of a feeling than a firmly-rooted analytical conclusion.


The problem with this post is that the person who posted this and the person who didn't know what "tunneling" meant a mere hours before seems to have learned a great deal in a short amount of time. Feels like someone hopped into mafia chat for a while and was told what to post in order to salvage what was turning into a bad situation for him. He doesn't actually say anything of substance in the post, either - it reads more like a PR announcement. It's basically a gigantic post about how certain people aren't scum, but there's no actual explanation as to why they aren't scum; they just aren't in his opinion.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
November 04 2014 19:00 GMT
#498
Morning guys here earlier than expected because i couldn't sleep.

Im really not sure on serajai at the moment but that might just be because her scumlist is almost everyone i said i wanted to lynch earlier. Also if she is mafia there is at least one scum in the people she called out because the others i hope i think i have a fairly good town read.

Superbia if you are around id appreciate if you'd change your vote as sentinel isn't getting lynched today.

Also i still don't see why kush is getting a pass today. Since my post on him not one person has called him mafia or expressed the desire to vote on him. This could also attribute to me wanting to read serajai as town. i've been one of the most universally town read person this game so I find it interesting that no mafia joined this wagon on kush. I know my case was weak as he hasn't actually posted anything that is scummy per-say it is more in his lack of posting considering his hype in the pre game. He is still low hanging fruit though so if he is town I see no reason why mafia haven't jumped on this although i might be reading into this too much.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 19:00 GMT
#499
On November 05 2014 03:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
##Vote: Serejai

That vote and the rationale doesn't sit well at all with me. Explain yourself, please.


Lol, the rationale doesn't sit well? That's a very scummy thing to say. I know I'm town, and I don't know what cricket is. Therefore, if the lynch is going to be me or cricket... why would I let myself stay in the hot seat?

I don't think cricket is scum, but I know that I'm not; so if it's him or me, I'll choose him.

I thought you were town but this post of yours is scummy as shit.
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KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
November 04 2014 19:01 GMT
#500
On November 05 2014 03:27 batsnacks wrote:
KSC if voting cricket isn't an option, who do you vote?


serajai

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