EPTLT just claimed acolyte of pain....but not his power....how are we supposed to judge you if you don't say your power??????? like title of character is not rly anything without flips....
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
LT just claimed acolyte of pain....but not his power....how are we supposed to judge you if you don't say your power??????? like title of character is not rly anything without flips.... | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:27 ritoky wrote: i am busy with guests over, but trying to keep up loosely with the thread. don't like some of the late tagalongs onto this LT train, although I see some people defending him with 0 justification. can someone explain the justification for defending him? LT just claimed acolyte of pain....but not his power....how are we supposed to judge you if you don't say your power??????? like title of character is not rly anything without flips.... Justification: (1) He is a joker (2) Acolyte of Pain, for it's name, seems to be reasonable the the wants to be lynched. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
he's blatantly trolling all day and you want to lynch someone who said they'd only be active day 2 onwards over people like this guy and obi who has done the same scummy crap minus the trolling (like who the fuck links a cop game as a defence for damdred this game) | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I'm trying to lynch damdred/circumstance. If you have read Tolkien's scum games, you would see that this is not his scum meta also. He wants to be lynched. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:35 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not trying to lynch risk. I'm trying to lynch damdred/circumstance. If you have read Tolkien's scum games, you would see that this is not his scum meta also. He wants to be lynched. I might be willing to back you on the Circumstance lynch. I'm mostly caught up but I'm still relatively unsure of an LT lynch. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
I've brought a case on circumstance which is the SAME argument you used on batsnacks. But you're not trying to lynch him. Then, I've brought something super scummy on damdred. You give time for him to make his list and, when he delivers it, with a complete different format from the jay case, you dismiss the lynch because his list looks like yours. I really don't understand. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:40 Seuss wrote: This looks less like joker and more like faking joker to get out of a lynch to me. He is doing stupid shit since the beginning of the game. | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:40 Seuss wrote: This looks less like joker and more like faking joker to get out of a lynch to me. That's something that occurred to me. But if he were scum, there wouldn't be so many people voting for him. Why is circumstance voting for him? With no chatting in thread either. That sounds kinda like scum trying to finish up a lynch on Misder is still a jungle panther (stealthed) keeping his vote on him since forever ago before he really started playing. Kinda scummy. Risk is scummy for other reasons. He's just voting LT because it's the other wagon. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
Why did you vote LT? | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE On November 03 2014 03:11 GlowingBear wrote: .: Circumstance, master of passivity A quick skim through his filter will show that he is the most passive player on the thread. Who is his top scum read? Nobody knows. Who does he think is town? Nobody knows. Not only he refuses to point fingers of suspicion, he also doesn't try to push the thread forward. He did it once. Just once. With oats. But it was still wishy washy. This is solely my case on him. I'll analyse his passivity post by post now, and bring minor arguments on him. Just click on spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On October 31 2014 12:01 Circumstance wrote: First game on TL, using TL's systems, thank God I'm town, makes things a lot easier. (Question: If someone votes in the separate thread, is that vote binding for the day?) Bad entrance. Downgrades his play (hi guys, I'm new on TL) and forced town claim (I'm town lololol makes things easier(?)). Doesn't look like a natural town writing style to me. As I said before, scum has a hard time trying to put himself in the game. Their writing style is mostly forced. On October 31 2014 12:18 Circumstance wrote: I think it's jumping to conclusions a bit quickly - the game had a clearly defined starting time, so if you didn't post pretty quickly, you'd look suspicious in that you were laying low. Seems like an innocent misread. You see, he doesn't compromises himself here in any position. He says people seems forced to post and that was an null tell from Kirby, BUT he also thinks that my push on him is also null. An innocent misread. So both of us were null at that time. I don't believe this. In a jokey atmosphere, when someone does what I did, there is clearly a motivation behind it. Which means 1) I'm town trying to bring serious discussion to the topic 2) I'm town having a scumread 3) I'm scum trying to look townie 4) I'm scum trying to pick on a bad post from town. That's what you can understand from my post. There is no space for "innocent misread". On October 31 2014 12:23 Circumstance wrote: Because I'm not ready to call out potential scum this early in, and the subject matter is pretty innocuous. Plus, I've dealt with a fair number of games where someone from town made these kind of quick claims that did not always pan out. Translation: I don't want to bring attention. On October 31 2014 12:51 Circumstance wrote: Just making things clear - if you didn't read portions of the thread, then what makes you say it's all fluff? "Just making things clear" = I'm not calling you scum for that, I just want clarification. Please don't be angry at me. On October 31 2014 13:45 Circumstance wrote: But the post specifically stated a goal of eliminating the Horde, which someone (don't remember who) suggested would be the Mafia. So what I'm wondering is, was Mr. Bigglesworth a sort of game event, or is there a Kel'Thuzad role? Useless WIFOM. Disconnected conclusions. "Horde may be mafia, therefore... IS THE CAT A SORT OF EVENT OR THERE IS A KEL THUZAD ROLE?" On October 31 2014 15:15 Circumstance wrote: I don't know enough about explanaition posts to try and write soomething super-detailed, and there isn't all too much just yet to go off of, so I'm just gonna give a brief explanation for my first formal action. The early suspicion for me is on Oats. A quick filter seems to show him being rather "floaty" - posting often enough to be seen as active, replying to discussion posts enough to be seen as involved, but not contributing to those same discussions enough to be seen as the originator of any idea. It seems like he's going out of his way not to initiate or develop any reads, not to move discussions forward, but merely to antagonize, to take existing discussions and say "this is bad, this is wrong, you don't know what you're doing". I can't tell if it's meant as a way to gain the trust of other players or something else entirely, but ATM, this doesn't feel like the way someone acts if they want the town to be moving towards any meaningful conclusion. Seuss, I understand where you're coming from on GB, but for my money, I think we might be learning more if we ##Analyze: Oatsmaster "EARLY" suspicion. Translation = "this is not going to hold water for long" Analyze Oats. Do not vote for him. NOW, THE MOST ILLUSTRATIVE POST: On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote: So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke? So, after being afk, he comes to the thread, HE IS OK WITH THE RNG LYNCH AS PLAN B, but he is NOT SOLD ON NUKE'S CASE and ASKS FOR ANOTHER ONE? Wow. He still has no scumread. He is not convinced of lynching anyone. And he does not take any stance. In this post, he is: 1) Mostly ok with lynching anyone 2) Not ready enough to sheep a case (still avoiding getting attention) 3) Never taking stances On November 01 2014 10:47 Circumstance wrote: Do you want me to explain my schedule to you? I will if you want. As for GB's question, my current reads aren't strong enough to lay out on the table right now, and frankly, I don't know how much it matters at this stage. We've got some clear targets that are slowly beginning to get multiple votes placed on them. If we don't consolidate, we run the risk of a no-lynch, which doesn't benefit anyone. I don't WANT to lynch you right now, GB, because I'm not a fan of RNG and you keep discussions going. But before I place my vote on risk.nuke, I want to hear the argument against it, assuming there is one, to see if it holds water. He doesn't want to bring attention, again. Like, lol, "my opinion isn't relevant, so I'm not giving it" lolololol. That's all. If you don't want to read everything, read the last two quotes. ##Vote: Circumstance | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Glowingbear, how many lynches have you pushed today really badly? It looks like you are going from one dude to another. Why dont you have multiple reads? | ||
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jrkirby
United States1510 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:52 GlowingBear wrote: CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE At the moment, a circumstance lynch would be fine to me. But the wagon isn't gonna change, it's too late for that. The only two wagons here are LT and risk, and risk is was better of a lynch. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote: alright guys some crap came up today and i'll try to catch up but i can't gaurantee reasonable thoughts between now and 2 hours form now when the day ends. can anyone tell me what the main wagons are besides GB? looks like I didn't work hard enough to get votes onto him so he's not a real possibliity LT and risk. People are considering switching to Circumstance. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:43 GlowingBear wrote: Like, HF, I really don't know what you're doing this game. I've brought a case on circumstance which is the SAME argument you used on batsnacks. But you're not trying to lynch him. Then, I've brought something super scummy on damdred. You give time for him to make his list and, when he delivers it, with a complete different format from the jay case, you dismiss the lynch because his list looks like yours. I really don't understand. this is nothing like batsnacks because batsnacks was active the entire game and still had no scum reads, circumstance actually outlined a good case on someone he thought was scummy and it's far better than the rest of the lurkers who for some reason you don't want to lynch over circumstance even though they have LESS scum reads damdred... i dunno he doesn't seem scummy he's been pushing cases and looking for things to do i don't really understand your read other than the claim thing which you changed half way through the game to something completely different and now you're back to his list and claim again | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:53 Oatsmaster wrote: There are no fucking jokers in this game or whatever you want to call them. Glowingbear, how many lynches have you pushed today really badly? It looks like you are going from one dude to another. Why dont you have multiple reads? How do you fucking know? My reads changes when the game progresses. What can I do? I'm not worried to keep reading people as town. I'm worried to catch scum. And scummiest people are Damdred and Circumstance at the moment, for me. Circumstance had very scummy behaviour + he has been lurking until now. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25552 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote: LT and risk. People are considering switching to Circumstance. ok. who do you think we should lynch? not that I value your opinion but who you choose to go after is informative | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On November 03 2014 09:46 jrkirby wrote: That's something that occurred to me. But if he were scum, there wouldn't be so many people voting for him. Why is circumstance voting for him? With no chatting in thread either. That sounds kinda like scum trying to finish up a lynch on Misder is still a jungle panther (stealthed) keeping his vote on him since forever ago before he really started playing. Kinda scummy. Risk is scummy for other reasons. He's just voting LT because it's the other wagon. The bolded section is a bad argument at best. Ignore the votes, what in LordTolkien's post history is towny? | ||
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