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On November 13 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote:
Also hindsight of course,
it really annoyed me when we could of killed lian instead of misder and hf said shouldn't be the lynch and right hwne i'm trying to get people on lian. He says no we lynch misder, and then jay jumps to misder in one of the scummiest vote jumps ever.
How was it scummy Lian and Misder were both scum reads for me. Ritoky asked me why i switched I gave my reasoning and no one brought it up again.
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On November 12 2014 23:43 WaveofShadow wrote:
5 upload isn't that bad. I used to stream with even less than that and made it work. You just have to sac a little quality.
Yea I guess I feel if I drop the quality to low no one would want to watch. Me included.
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On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard
TBH HF was doing some weird shots. He kept switching on think on the basis of making them seem random or trying to make it appear that we had 1 shot instead of two. Can anyone comment on this. I wasn't sure if that was the best play. It worked out but I'm wondering what peoples opinions are of how shots should best me carried out in general
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On November 13 2014 03:58 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard TBH HF was doing some weird shots. He kept switching on think on the basis of making them seem random or trying to make it appear that we had 1 shot instead of two. Can anyone comment on this. I wasn't sure if that was the best play. It worked out but I'm wondering what peoples opinions are of how shots should best me carried out in general
I think scum won on the strength of their day play rather than their night shots, but generally I don't see a huge benefit to strategies besides shooting the towniest and most dangerous players, except for certain night-action specific things, like dodging doctor saves etc
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On November 13 2014 03:58 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard TBH HF was doing some weird shots. He kept switching on think on the basis of making them seem random or trying to make it appear that we had 1 shot instead of two. Can anyone comment on this. I wasn't sure if that was the best play. It worked out but I'm wondering what peoples opinions are of how shots should best me carried out in general
Basically you either kill the towniest/best players so late game is a mess of people eyeing each other suspiciously or you just YOLO and let Town logic themselves to death.
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On November 13 2014 04:06 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 03:58 jaybrundage wrote:On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard TBH HF was doing some weird shots. He kept switching on think on the basis of making them seem random or trying to make it appear that we had 1 shot instead of two. Can anyone comment on this. I wasn't sure if that was the best play. It worked out but I'm wondering what peoples opinions are of how shots should best me carried out in general I think scum won on the strength of their day play rather than their night shots, but generally I don't see a huge benefit to strategies besides shooting the towniest and most dangerous players, except for certain night-action specific things, like dodging doctor saves etc
This was at least one reason for why in the least HF and/or VE are mafia. Both are making strong pushes in the thread but mafia seemed to have 2 KP. I didn't 100% follow the game, but HF being alive on D2 when mafia has 2 KP considering his track record is a surprise at least.
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On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard
I just assumed it was the homing chicken
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It's a misspelled reference to the Malazan Book of the Fallen series.
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On November 13 2014 03:58 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 03:52 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am interested to know what scum thought when I got shot instead of misder, since they never talked about it in the QT. Were they worried about a vigi or did they realize I was a bodyguard TBH HF was doing some weird shots. He kept switching on think on the basis of making them seem random or trying to make it appear that we had 1 shot instead of two. Can anyone comment on this. I wasn't sure if that was the best play. It worked out but I'm wondering what peoples opinions are of how shots should best me carried out in general
no not really, they were shots on people that would never die but looked towny enough but weren't the top town because:
a) if top town get shot me and ritoky would look overwhelmingly more suspicious for not dying over them for ages
b) those shots were never likely to be able to be pushed as mislynches
c) those shots were never likely protects either but also b)
d) a lot of wifom on n1 shots which was great
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Hey was there again a game where a confirmed town was mafia? 
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On November 13 2014 06:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Hey was there again a game where a confirmed town was mafia?
It was my fault. I've seen this very problem personally in a game and I didn't catch it this time. I accept full responsibility this time.
Next time though, anyone who was in this game is culpable for the mistake.
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Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread. 
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I am quite interested in what actually happened.
I read kita's post game analysis so did ritoky just misinterpret something andclaim they are townfirmed with Holyflare or what?
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On November 13 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am quite interested in what actually happened.
I read kita's post game analysis so did ritoky just misinterpret something andclaim they are townfirmed with Holyflare or what?
What happened was that HF claimed that there was one person in the thread who know his alignment for certain (implying a mod-confirmed mason) and when rit came out with the mason claim that was just assumed to be the case. I didn't make sure that the mod actually confirmed HF with ritoky because distraction, and eventually (as with all things) it just became accepted that he was confirmed.
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Blazinghand
United States25563 Posts
On November 13 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread.
On November 13 2014 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am quite interested in what actually happened.
I read kita's post game analysis so did ritoky just misinterpret something andclaim they are townfirmed with Holyflare or what? What happened was that HF claimed that there was one person in the thread who know his alignment for certain (implying a mod-confirmed mason) and when rit came out with the mason claim that was just assumed to be the case. I didn't make sure that the mod actually confirmed HF with ritoky because distraction, and eventually (as with all things) it just became accepted that he was confirmed.
I actually consider this to be next-level play, the kind of play I'd like to pull off. I'm sad that I wasn't able to do so first myself.
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On November 13 2014 03:53 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote:
Also hindsight of course,
it really annoyed me when we could of killed lian instead of misder and hf said shouldn't be the lynch and right hwne i'm trying to get people on lian. He says no we lynch misder, and then jay jumps to misder in one of the scummiest vote jumps ever. How was it scummy Lian and Misder were both scum reads for me. Ritoky asked me why i switched I gave my reasoning and no one brought it up again.
I wanted to bring it up again and i did and you promptly ignored my point.
It was scummy because you had a scum read on lian, and instead of PUSHING said scum read you sat bad and only talked about misder and then you jumped on misder when shenanigans could of happened. Your excuse was that you didn't have the support and it never got traction lol, you never pushed it you just afk'd a vote until you jumped on misder.
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On November 13 2014 07:08 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread. Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 13 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am quite interested in what actually happened.
I read kita's post game analysis so did ritoky just misinterpret something andclaim they are townfirmed with Holyflare or what? What happened was that HF claimed that there was one person in the thread who know his alignment for certain (implying a mod-confirmed mason) and when rit came out with the mason claim that was just assumed to be the case. I didn't make sure that the mod actually confirmed HF with ritoky because distraction, and eventually (as with all things) it just became accepted that he was confirmed. I actually consider this to be next-level play, the kind of play I'd like to pull off. I'm sad that I wasn't able to do so first myself.
I agree whole-heartedly and I said as much in the thread during the game.
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On November 13 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread.
i disagree with this entirely, and take a lot of offense to this comment. i knew full well what i was doing accepting HF's assertion. yes it ended up backfiring on me, but he agreed with my case that lynched mafia day 1 so i was willing to take the risk for a while. like i said if it was 4 or 3 with HF alive, i was lynching HF 100% of the time; i had already made the conscious decision.
you shouldn't talk shit and underestimate players. it was that same line of thinking that had 0 people listening to my reads that were 80% on mafia almost all game.
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On November 13 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:Also HF is despicable for taking advantage of a player who doesn't know any better, but that's a conversation for a different time and thread. i disagree with this entirely, and take a lot of offense to this comment. i knew full well what i was doing accepting HF's assertion. yes it ended up backfiring on me, but he agreed with my case that lynched mafia day 1 so i was willing to take the risk for a while. like i said if it was 4 or 3 with HF alive, i was lynching HF 100% of the time; i had already made the conscious decision. you shouldn't talk shit and underestimate players. it was that same line of thinking that had 0 people listening to my reads that were 80% on mafia almost all game.
This is a frankly shocking justification; if a player is telling the thread something that isn't true, then you say so. I don't care if you "knew full well what you were doing", because what were you were doing was bad.
Whatever upside you think there was in letting the thread believe a lie, it wasn't worth it and it was never going to be worth it.
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