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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 12 2014 10:34 GMT
#3561
thanks for the writeup kita, even better than actually reading the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 12 2014 11:20 GMT
#3562
On November 04 2014 14:38 jrkirby wrote:
Ok, I'm having a lot of thoughts here.

I definitely still think risk.nuke is a great lynch target for today. That hasn't changed a bit.

But who are the other scum? Here's some theories, of course it's all speculation:

+ Show Spoiler [jaybrundage theory] +

Jaybrundage is warlock and scum. He was given a power he could choose to use: Jaraxxus.

All he has to do is activate it against a person, and win against them in a vote. If he wins, then they die, and he gets extra powers.

So he chose ObiWanShinobi, becuase he confident people though he was more scummy looking than himself, which seems the general town sentiment.

+ Show Spoiler [Caviots] +
On the other hand he could be town who chose town, or town who chose mafia. If he's town who picked mafia, then obviously it's risky to not vote obi. If he's town who picked town, it doesn't matter, and obi is probably better to lynch anyway.

Or it could be that warlock is someone completely different and it worked on two random guys (it's chaotic right). I kinda doubt it because on mafia, that's a super strong ability, and on town, it's a stupid anti-town ability to use.


Obviously this is about 10 pounds of speculation, so take it with more salt than you got last time reynad lost.



+ Show Spoiler [Holyflare theory] +

I expected holyflare to die last night, which is why I'm quite wary of him. I know this could be kinda WIFOM, but if you never call the WIFOM, scum can just kill whoever's on their case.

Holyflare is the ultimate busser. He knows he can get town to follow him if he's active and plays a solid game. So he and LT agree that he's going to buss LT at the beginning of the game, and LT will play haphazardly. His play was kinda awful, and from what everyone says about him he's better than that, even as scum. So perhaps he was playing bad on purpose?

Anyway, holyflare thinks that once he gets town to follow him, he can lead lynches on town 8 days a week, and nobody will suspect him. After all, he led the lynch on scum day one.

There's even a quote here near the beginning of day 2 telling people that they should sheep him.


I also speculate that BH was killed by town, which in my mind says damdred has a decent chance to be scum too. Or maybe scum has 2 KP. idk.

I should spend more time reading filters, but now the weekend is over and I have HW and tests and shit IRL, so life sucks.


this post was fairly accurate btw gj kirby


Anyway, holyflare thinks that once he gets town to follow him, he can lead lynches on town 8 days a week, and nobody will suspect him. After all, he led the lynch on scum day one.


:D:D:D
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
November 12 2014 11:47 GMT
#3563
On November 12 2014 16:04 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 15:15 geript wrote:
HF is really easy to tell as town because of the difference in how and why he pushes. I hope other people pick up on this.


I feel that way too, like I'm pushing really obviously not scummy things as mafia and sticking to it

You kinda do. But more importantly you did not give a single fuck in LYLO/MYLO/whatever. At that point it was really really obvious that you were scum.

That's the second mafia win handed to you by ritoky - you should make a thread thanking him instead of apologizing to Obi.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 12 2014 11:58 GMT
#3564
well yes that too although i was relatively busy
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 12 2014 12:29 GMT
#3565
On November 12 2014 15:15 geript wrote:
HF is really easy to tell as town because of the difference in how and why he pushes. I hope other people pick up on this.


This is so true.
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 12 2014 12:34 GMT
#3566
Love how everyone is saying this but I'm 9-1 as mafia? :D
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 12 2014 12:44 GMT
#3567
On November 12 2014 21:34 Holyflare wrote:
Love how everyone is saying this but I'm 9-1 as mafia? :D


Oh, I'm not saying you didn't play well HF. Mafia win was totally deserved.
But after this game I think your meta was like... revealed?

If you check the obs qt, although everybody had shitty guesses, almost everyone had you as scum. I guessed you as scum just after I died lol.

But yeah, very well played
I'm adorable.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 12 2014 12:45 GMT
#3568
it's always different in-game to outside of the game. I've benefited from the same phenomenon.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 12 2014 12:49 GMT
#3569
On November 12 2014 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
it's always different in-game to outside of the game. I've benefited from the same phenomenon.


Yes it is. But I posted my guess on him right after I died, so... I think I would be on the right track if I survived

I'm probably gonna play one or two mafias and enter an obs spree. Observing is easier to learn because you don't have the pressure of stablishing your innocence.

Then I'll return as the supreme mafia player from TL.

Be warned.
I'm adorable.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 12 2014 12:51 GMT
#3570
Actually obsing teaches you very little because reads made in a pressure-less vacuum are pretty worthless.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
November 12 2014 12:52 GMT
#3571
On November 12 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
it's always different in-game to outside of the game. I've benefited from the same phenomenon.


Yes it is. But I posted my guess on him right after I died, so... I think I would be on the right track if I survived

I'm probably gonna play one or two mafias and enter an obs spree. Observing is easier to learn because you don't have the pressure of stablishing your innocence.

Then I'll return as the supreme mafia player from TL.

Be warned.

I can't wait. Shadow someone good instead of just observing though - that's way better.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 12 2014 13:20 GMT
#3572
D2 was just the worst.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 12 2014 13:37 GMT
#3573
On November 12 2014 21:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 12 2014 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
it's always different in-game to outside of the game. I've benefited from the same phenomenon.


Yes it is. But I posted my guess on him right after I died, so... I think I would be on the right track if I survived

I'm probably gonna play one or two mafias and enter an obs spree. Observing is easier to learn because you don't have the pressure of stablishing your innocence.

Then I'll return as the supreme mafia player from TL.

Be warned.

I can't wait. Shadow someone good instead of just observing though - that's way better.


Good idea. I will do that.
I was already coached by some players I admire, but I'm having a hard time applying their lessons :/
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 12 2014 13:40 GMT
#3574
On November 12 2014 21:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 21:34 Holyflare wrote:
Love how everyone is saying this but I'm 9-1 as mafia? :D


Oh, I'm not saying you didn't play well HF. Mafia win was totally deserved.
But after this game I think your meta was like... revealed?

If you check the obs qt, although everybody had shitty guesses, almost everyone had you as scum. I guessed you as scum just after I died lol.

But yeah, very well played


Only because wave ruined everything :p :p!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 12 2014 13:51 GMT
#3575
Pretty much, I don't think obs would have picked up on HolyFlare so completely without Wave dropping that hint.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 12 2014 14:02 GMT
#3576
I just read CR's filter because it was mentioned in obsQT. How was liancourt not lynched?!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
November 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#3577
On November 12 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I just read CR's filter because it was mentioned in obsQT. How was liancourt not lynched?!


The whole mafia team should have been lynched quite easily
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
November 12 2014 14:08 GMT
#3578
On November 12 2014 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I just read CR's filter because it was mentioned in obsQT. How was liancourt not lynched?!


The whole mafia team should have been lynched quite easily

That can be said in every game, and is pretty post-hoc.

CR's case on lian though - I've not seen a case that good in a long time. It really demonstrated that he was very likely to be mafia. And that's without me having any game context other than knowing alignments now.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
November 12 2014 14:10 GMT
#3579
In theory. Always easier said than done though. My reads are always shit so I can't tell if I would have been any good. At the very least I think I would have caught Jay. I also doubt I would have taken the mod confirmed status at face value because I never do in any other game when people say so and so is mod confirmed.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
November 12 2014 14:11 GMT
#3580
On November 12 2014 23:08 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2014 23:06 Holyflare wrote:
On November 12 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
I just read CR's filter because it was mentioned in obsQT. How was liancourt not lynched?!


The whole mafia team should have been lynched quite easily

That can be said in every game, and is pretty post-hoc.

CR's case on lian though - I've not seen a case that good in a long time. It really demonstrated that he was very likely to be mafia. And that's without me having any game context other than knowing alignments now.

Yup. CR made up for his questionable early game and targeting with his final day but by that time the tunnels were way too deep, and all holy had to do was show up last second and say 'I'm HF, vote this guy.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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