Fantasy Football Mafia Mini 2

On October 21 2014 01:28 Holyflare wrote:
/in hope it won't start sooooonish

On October 21 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
You should /in jat

On October 22 2014 02:51 Holyflare wrote:
3-4am which isn't as bad as the 5-6am one last time :p

On October 22 2014 03:11 Holyflare wrote:


Just secure mafia lynches before bed

On October 23 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:

First one to get the amount of votes gets lynched.

On October 23 2014 04:52 Holyflare wrote:


think of the europeans >_>

On October 23 2014 11:26 Holyflare wrote:


gb let's enter a hypothetical world.. a game has just started and someone says that someone is mafia based on absolutely no posts at all

do you think it's based on real information that has been obtained from the game

orrr

a joke?

On October 23 2014 11:39 Holyflare wrote:


if you think it's a joke then what information could you possibly gain other than the person confirming "it was a joke" which he had already done right above when you posted that question



it's extremely redundant

On October 23 2014 23:37 liancourt wrote:
i don't think you're the person to change their playstyle based on how the last game played out unless you've rolled a different alignment.

On October 23 2014 23:42 StorrZerg wrote:



Or typo? That didn't cross my mind at the time.
Typo does make more sense though.

At the time that joke doesn't fit with your post flow. / thread flow. Felt way to forced. So yeah I scum read you for it.

On October 23 2014 23:54 Holyflare wrote:


because your argument was terribly boring to read and pretty much filtered through my mind when reading it

On October 23 2014 23:59 Holyflare wrote:


well it seems like more of a "i saw what jat said and ignored it in my mind because in my mind my read was right and it couldnt be a typo" kind of thing rather than a lie like you are saying it most probably is

On October 24 2014 00:05 Holyflare wrote:


it was still a joke just with the wrong name

On October 24 2014 00:07 liancourt wrote:


how can u mistake someone's name really, me for fecal? especially since i never even posted in the thread as of that time.

On October 24 2014 00:12 IAmRobik wrote:

I do remember the read on me now. Your read is incorrect. Basing your mafia read on me based off of one game, where I tried to emulate my town play and do something specific and was unable to execute it because of time constraints is a poor justification for why I'm scum.

What do you not like about my catchup posts? Is it that I combined them all in 3 separate posts instead of just responding to each of the posts that I wanted to respond to individually (like i normally do)? Or do you not like the conclusions that I drew?

Also, I claimed town incessantly that game and did absolutely 0 analysis, which is not what I'm doing this game at all. In fact, I'm pretty sure all I did was claim blue and that was it. (pause) I went back and looked at my filter, and I said that it was easy to post as town as well. It's just how I was feeling when I was drunk at midnightish, when I got home. When I opened my role pm and saw that I wasn't scum, I felt like a weight had been lifted, because when I'm scum I'm very nervous and I am scared to post and (as HF kindly pointed out in the last game I played), constantly check with veteran players on my scum team to see if what I'm posting is coming from a towny mindset.

On October 24 2014 10:25 Damdred wrote:



Bear, I think these are great reasons that these guys aren't the beautiful town they are pretending to be.

look at storrs filter man, compare it to the other games he played in.Hes a serious person in every game, but everything is coming off so fake this game his fights seem fake. His pressure feels fake, everything about him seems fake. Hes also obtuse and he filled up the thread with a fight over nothing to get town disorganized at the start.

Lian hasn't posted a lot of really insightful posts this game either. Last game I scum read him for refusing to do things, so my hesitation...actually screw that. Hes wishy washy a lot of his filter is fluff, he tried to get ff into a rage and has seemed to avoid things and takes soft stances i might of mentioned that already.

hf gives some unsubstantiated reads, and his list of people he wants to lynch is mostly lazy people or lurkers. Could be mafia in their but just doesn't seem like a townhf thing to do.

On October 24 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:
I know what you are doing here bear bear but i'll go along until i finish this drink.

People can change their playstyle to fit their needs.

The possibility is their, its probably a low possibility i have no idea how lian plays scum. But they seem a bit ok instead of just pushing each other they seem to be at peace so not seeing much bus after initial.

Bear, tell me your scum reads or are you still catching up

On October 24 2014 10:47 Holyflare wrote:





what the fuck is this, you've read half of the thread, don't know what on earth people are posting yet at all because you aren't caught up with 50% of the game and you are already making a super strong scum read + wanting to make a case on them and you're talking about people's play throughout the whole game?

On October 24 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:


I think it's entirely strange that the part I highlighted in red shows that you think that nobody has done anything towny at all yet and how it sucks but instead of checking if that's actually true and maybe re-evaluating that by actually reading the whole game and MAYBE changing your mind on your scum read on lian who you don't even know if he shits town rainbows since page 19 you decide to say that you're going to make a full blown case on him. Without reading the rest of the game. That's the strangest thing i've seen in a while.

On October 24 2014 11:29 Holyflare wrote:


what use is a read up to page 20 when there's 20+ more pages to read and everything could have changed? It just screams of wanting to appear to contribute and get post count up because you're afraid of having an empty filter with no contributions

On October 24 2014 11:33 Holyflare wrote:
It's like we're all playing fifa/nfl/randomEAsportsgamethatupdateseveryyear 2015 because it's the most up to date one with all the new features but you're like "no man it's cool i'm gonna spend some time playing fifa/nfl/randomeasportsgamethatupdateseveryyear 1998-2015 because I want to tell you about all the features that have changed!" but the thing is we already played every fifa every year so we already know those changes and it's irrelevant to us now, we'd like to know what's coming in fifa 2016 or hidden things we've missed in 2015

On October 24 2014 11:35 Holyflare wrote:


There's more content in 40 pages that would be more than enough to COMPLETELY change any read you have up on it's head, I don't even know why you're contesting this at all. You're literally working with 50% information and saying that it's better than 100%. If you had the same reads after you read all the game I wouldn't even be bringing this up but you're being stubborn on a point which is a no brainer.

On October 24 2014 11:43 Holyflare wrote:


I literally just explained it to you, he's baiting people for reactions and trying to get them to converse about him and made that list post about why he's playing a bit differently from last game where he was trying hard and got shot by the vig. He's disproved half your case. Like 50% of your case is that he's not playing how he explained but when does anyone ever trust self meta ever? Why does that make him mafia in the slightest, what stops it being someone disgruntled from being scum read why is it a mafia trait to be wrong about yourself!??!?! Like I said the only relevant part was that he hasn't posted his conclusions from reactions (I haven't even really checked if he actually has) but even then I've seen plenty of townies do the same thing and I actually even town read him for other things/not giving a crap about things sooo there's that too

On October 23 2014 10:46 DrParnassus wrote:
hf i'm pretty sure one of us is mafia

On October 23 2014 16:46 Alakaslam wrote:

SSON

Is scraping bottom of barrel

Spells mafai

On October 24 2014 11:55 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
7. Elvis!
8. GlowingBear
13. raynpelikoneet

Maybe remove you, MAYBE gb although not entirely sure yet have to do some reading, might have to add someone back to it in a bit

On October 24 2014 12:04 DrParnassus wrote:


that's exactly where I'm at except I still haven't decided about you yet. but for now GB and FF are off my watch list

On October 24 2014 07:53 liancourt wrote:


replacing elvis i presume, who else is there?

On October 23 2014 23:34 Holyflare wrote:
also don't like rayn's contributions at all it's all been mega surface level "oh that's totally an easy town read on kush!" stuff and then telling someone how to play

On October 24 2014 16:31 Holyflare wrote:


Your read on kush is terrible because you quite literally contradict yourself in the post you give that read. You can't say kush posting that post is a town tell to then say if he doesn't follow up he's mafia. That by definition 100% makes it NOT a town tell and in fact complete wifom. Being your only contribution is that pretty much do you expect anything other than you to look scummy?

On October 24 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
You have literally become terrible at this game if this is the level of your town game. You wrote 1 line about batsnacks IN A CASE ABOUT VOTING ME which has nothing to do with my actual case on batsnacks. I have also only called you mafia for having 0 content which is perfectly acceptable for mafia to do. How many mafia games have you played and you don't even realise that? Constant lurk, 0 content, 0 justifications, asking robik about a post on whether on its own makes me mafia or not.
Terrible terrible terrible town play. Or more likely scum play. Easy choice since i don't think you play town terribly

On October 24 2014 23:04 Holyflare wrote:
Jat, robik catch up was NOTHING like rayns in the slightest. Also robik wasn't missing 50% of the thread before making an entire case on someone.

Gb, i never called ff's filter genuine ever. He's in my lynch list for Christ's sake you say I'm misinterpreting but then you don't show where at all. Ff's post on lian was uninteresting so i ignored it, like everyone else did. It proved nothing and he maintained scummyness.

On October 25 2014 00:51 Holyflare wrote:


3 people have agreed with my read on you, maybe actually more. You then come in when the flavour of the thread is me looking scummy and dump a load of shit about me not mentioning ff despite scum reading 2 other people as well but fail to show why that's scummy when you have done something far worse and mentioned 2 scum reads that you haven't talked about at all ever ever ever. Pot meet kettle. You are dying today.

On October 24 2014 23:28 GlowingBear wrote:


Address to this, HF.

I've just brought a post of you calling his reads legitimate and implying that he is town, and yet he was constantly on your lynch list. He also posted nothing different for you to change your read on him, which is proven by the fact that you didn't even tried to reconsider him later when you promised to.

On October 25 2014 01:14 Holyflare wrote:


Still very much where I'm at

On October 25 2014 09:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol. Lymch hf.

On October 24 2014 13:11 Holyflare wrote:
5. Fecalfeast
6. batsnacks
13. raynpelikoneet


very tempted to add kush back on there because he came back and did absolutely nothing but reply to something irrelevant even if i did like his initial entry but i wouldn't say that's super hard to do as either alignment, at a stretch I'd add thrawn back for not being very conversational at all whatsoever and just having reads (even if they are super similar) and that's about it, his reasons for his reads were very straightforward and not very critical thinkingish... lian... i dunno i'm just not feeling him being mafia i dunno, damd has to post more for me to solidify some things

##vote batsnacks for best push today


case

super defends lian and doesn't really have any scum reads
calls out posts as super towny, towniest post etc when they aren't particularly
has a weird "push" on ff but it's not even a push or any pressure and based on super strong town read on lian which i don't think any sensible person would have at this point in time

On October 24 2014 07:54 batsnacks wrote:


GB maybe rayn maybe

On October 25 2014 10:06 Holyflare wrote:


This is bull shit I'm your scum read and you quote things from my filter and don't even paste the quotes about batsnacks that i make MULTIPLE times that isn't this post

On October 25 2014 10:12 Holyflare wrote:
There's literally no better case than the one i made on batsnacks. Ridiculous nobody has even sheeped me till now and are all passing it off like your original thoughts while still scum reading the person pushing him.

On October 25 2014 10:10 Holyflare wrote:


No but he's playing terribly, that case he quoted of me is pretty good in of itself but he isn't doing shit to rethink things and I'm his scum read but making all these good points which he doesn't ever talk about and scum reads me for misinterpreting things but then does that 1000x over for me

On October 25 2014 10:16 Holyflare wrote:


Stop doing this useless shit and explain yourself once in a while because i am town and all of these shitty one liners about "oh its not that great" are really fucking awful when actually you don't even attack why they are awful. It's sad that throughout your entire play it took you this long to notice someone as obvious as batsnacks and actually make a push for him when I've already served him on a silver platter. There is quite literally nothing wrong with my case that explains batsnacks is totally uncharacteristic and only has strong town reads on people he shouldn't. That's the biggest mafia agenda ever. Not to mention how reserved he is which is also part of that case.

On October 25 2014 10:21 Holyflare wrote:


Please don't do a rayn. You haven't explained a single thing with the statement" doesn't make your case very good"ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It's baseless, it only serves to discredit and it is fucking awful town play.

On October 24 2014 13:24 Holyflare wrote:


this is his ONLY mafia read (I don't know why anybody hasn't mentioned it before despite calling out lian for having substantially more reads than this) and he uses it to question fecal repeatedly but fecal isn't even in his list of scum reads so in the end of it all no conclusion is actually ever drawn and his whole attack on fecal is based on an unflipped read

On October 24 2014 13:59 Holyflare wrote:
Well for one he loves to call people mafia, even after he did his palmar town lynch switch play the next game he seemed unphased in doing similar things, now he isn't doing shit about any scum read anywhere and isn't really doing anything meaningful at all, while having strong town reads on people he shouldn't.

There's quite literally nobody else we should be lynching today other than batsnacks

On October 25 2014 10:33 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, don't you think that depends a little on the flip?

On October 25 2014 10:42 Holyflare wrote:


Hahahaha this is actually true. LOL which makes it even more infallible because he had ABSOLUTELY NO SCUM READS.

Robik doing that isn't uncharacteristic in the slightest

On September 17 2014 04:39 batsnacks wrote:
People are making me grumpy. Holyflare is an excellent lynch today. There are at least as many people who have said they want to vote HF as there are people who said they want to vote kush.

On October 24 2014 23:10 batsnacks wrote:
HF you said FF is lynched if he doesn't explain his Liam read. You just now said he never adequately explained it, and supposedly he's still on your lynch list, but to me it looks like you've completely forgotten about him.

And now you want to lynch kush?? You are ignoring FF

On October 25 2014 06:15 batsnacks wrote:
A lot of people have said this and that about how FF looks scummy but you'd never know that looking at the voting thread.

On October 25 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote:


Best find

On October 25 2014 11:02 Holyflare wrote:
You're welcome

On October 24 2014 17:41 Holyflare wrote:
Good luck pushing that, especially when batsnacks is prime lynch candidate number 1 whom you don't even mention ever until your vote on me and still ignore it.

On October 25 2014 11:35 DrParnassus wrote:


the slam+batsnacks fight looks pretty weird from both sides

On October 25 2014 19:25 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh your guy had a slip with batsnacks and left

On October 24 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote:
You have literally become terrible at this game if this is the level of your town game. You wrote 1 line about batsnacks IN A CASE ABOUT VOTING ME which has nothing to do with my actual case on batsnacks. I have also only called you mafia for having 0 content which is perfectly acceptable for mafia to do. How many mafia games have you played and you don't even realise that? Constant lurk, 0 content, 0 justifications, asking robik about a post on whether on its own makes me mafia or not.
Terrible terrible terrible town play. Or more likely scum play. Easy choice since i don't think you play town terribly

On October 24 2014 17:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I disn't ignore it. I commented on it.
You are not interacting with me. I tried to provoke that from the beginning.
You just call me mafia for things that make noone mafia.

On October 24 2014 20:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But fine. I'll play your game. I'll go though batsnacks when i am on the road and actually have time to post properly.

On October 25 2014 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAt please vote for HF.
Not kush. He is town.
Do yyou know where i stand? If not ask me. Hf is mafia.

On October 26 2014 10:28 Holyflare wrote:
And gb seriously stop your useless discrediting. I've seen you say every single case on batsnacks "wasn't that good" but the simple matter of fact is that people switched because of those cases and he was mafia so they were in fact good.

On October 26 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote:


Like seriously. My case + follow up was the most convincing case you should have ever seen if you have played with batsnacks before. You just asked me repeatedly at deadline to tell you why batsnacks is mafia and then didn't even listen WHILE AGREEING that he was mafia based off of his fanfic filter???

On October 26 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Perfect game i guess doubt we have 3 blues vs 3 mafia and if thrawn was lying it would just be a 1 for 1 trade

On October 26 2014 05:31 DrParnassus wrote:


agree. bat's filter also clears liam, robik, and myself