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ketchep pls (warning for editting your post. don't edit your posts kids)
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On October 12 2014 09:34 ComaDose wrote:
like wouldn't making baseless accusations be more scummy? i dont know becuase im new
Early D1 is all about making accusations to spark conversation (in newbie games at least: silent thread=scum wins). Even if it's about how bad the accusations are.
Once we hit D2 and have some flips to read, play becomes much more analytical.
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On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch? That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else... As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1.
I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches:
On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all? Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could. I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO... + Show Spoiler +Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel
On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me. pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia. d1 policy lynch inc Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live.
On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers
always necessary in newbie games
On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO?
So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options.
And you 'hate' policy lynches.
Hmm.
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On October 12 2014 09:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
we're not at the "whelp, there's no one better to lynch" point yet, there's still an entire 24 hour period
Swaglord, what do you think of MB
I ignored everything he wrote after he revealed he didn't actually read the thread (saying I played 3 games instead of 5 as I explicitly clarified).
Also giant wall-o-text that is ultimately more useless than Urgot.
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On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch? That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else... As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1. I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches: Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all? Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could. I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO... + Show Spoiler +Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me. pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia. d1 policy lynch inc Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live. Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers
always necessary in newbie games Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO? So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options. And you 'hate' policy lynches. Hmm.
I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games.
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I want to post from my phone but it's difficult. I'll see if I can't put my post together when I get home at stupid o'clock.
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On October 12 2014 10:34 Cixah wrote:
I want to post from my phone but it's difficult. I'll see if I can't put my post together when I get home at stupid o'clock.
80% of my posts on this forum are from my phone.
WIMP.
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On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch? That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else... As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1. I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches: On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all? Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could. I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO... + Show Spoiler +Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me. pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia. d1 policy lynch inc Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live. On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers
always necessary in newbie games On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO? So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options. And you 'hate' policy lynches. Hmm. I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games.
Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over?
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On October 12 2014 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch? That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else... As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1. I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches: On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all? Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could. I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO... + Show Spoiler +Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me. pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia. d1 policy lynch inc Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live. On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers
always necessary in newbie games On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO? So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options. And you 'hate' policy lynches. Hmm. I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games. Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over?
Survey says:
Yes.
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On October 12 2014 11:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch? That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else... As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1. I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches: On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all? Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could. I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO... + Show Spoiler +Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me. pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia. d1 policy lynch inc Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live. On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers
always necessary in newbie games On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO? So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options. And you 'hate' policy lynches. Hmm. I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games. Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over? Survey says: Yes.
Would you care to elaborate?
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On October 12 2014 12:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2014 11:18 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 10:48 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 12 2014 10:04 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 09:59 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 12 2014 09:44 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 08:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's a long weekend in Canada. I'd give coma the benefit of the doubt.
OWB is a known lurker and even when pressured doesn't really perform (from what I remember from the Lol mafia game). Lynching him is essentially a dice roll.
Who else that is a lurker would you want to lynch? That is true, but if I were to ask, "who would likely contribute as a town player to find and lynch scum", would OWB be one of them? I'd say no. I do hate policy lynches, but if there's no one else... As for Coma, I'm waiting to see if he'll just get modkilled D1. I know I promised I wouldn't, but for someone who hates policy lynches: On October 12 2014 03:58 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 03:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
This is maybe the lowest activity game I've ever played in thus far...not entirely surpriused but still.
So am I to understand then that
a) Tolkien as confirmed town you're not going to bother to play the game? Surely as confirmed town it is your duty to steer the town in the right direction so you can help us win, correct?
b) Jeff you just don't give any shits at all? Maybe. Perhaps. Eventually. I SUPPOSE I could. I'll just say we should policy lynch lurkers. It always works in newbie games, and this is in effect a newbie game SO... + Show Spoiler +Also Wave, i have 5 games you can read. :D You could look through it for any clues, as I do have a game as scum in there + Show Spoiler +which I would've won if it weren't for that next-to-last day cop claim and check, despite having my buddy lynched D1 lel On October 12 2014 04:24 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 12 2014 04:20 Requizen wrote:
I asked because I skipped a handful of posts per page and skimmed the rest. As I said, my play time is limited D1 and N1 and my reading time is low, so I genuinely don't know.
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me. pls, this is like a play I would make in live mafia. d1 policy lynch inc Note I was always town whenever I get policy-lynched in live. On October 12 2014 07:39 Lord Tolkien wrote:
just policy lynch lurkers
always necessary in newbie games On October 12 2014 08:00 Lord Tolkien wrote:
neither would I but would you rather have them lurk lurk lurk until D3 or LYLO? So um...we have just under 24h to go and you're convinced we have no other options. And you 'hate' policy lynches. Hmm. I'd much prefer it if we didn't policy lynch, but it's usually a necessity in newbie games. Do you have an actual scumread then, or are you just gonna continue saying "I hate policy lynches, but we probably should do one" over and over? Survey says: Yes. Would you care to elaborate?
What do we say to the god of death?
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Right. It's no longer yesterday, and town clearly needs to be saved from drowning. So. Good thing I don't put in effort until the second half of D1. Town Hero Mode ACTIVATE
Confirmed Town
Swaglord Tolkien: The towniest of towns. Anyone who wants to lynch him is the scummiest of scums.
6ah: Random early Innocent Child claim. Confirmed town until D2: if no innocent child post, clearly scum or anti-town. So until that unlikely scenario, JOIN ME 6er in confirmed town glory.
Not Quite Confirmed Town, maybe a nice shade of minty green: NOT ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK D1
Sonib: Equally frustrated by the "lel I'm VT" and "lel I'm nub" trend in this thread.
Wav: "let's lynch the guy with the longest filter! HAHA! Best play NA!"
Additionally, I see no point in lynching any "vets" D1 when they have actual filters to read. UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE COUGH COUGH HACK HACK GAG GAG. These are no lyncherino until later on.
Besides, they'll probably be shot by mafia if they're town anyways, as I highly doubt a non-Sonib/Wav/me mafia would try to pull an epic WIFOM attempt and try to leave them alive for LYLO + Show Spoiler +(note, I tried to do this in my scum game [keeping the vet alive for LYLO for an easy mislynch], but I'm confirmed town here [also it got ruined by a next-to-last day cop claim ruining my lynching/shooting pattern])
mordek: I like him. Him response to the 6ah random early Innocent Child claim is townie to me. I want him to be more decisive with his reads on other people, but I'm townpiling him for now. Also mordek, unvote 6ah right now.
Alaric: Also sold on Alaric for now. Very pro-town set of posts, but also lacking decision for now. Perhaps nubishness.
ketchup: Same as above: going the right direction.
Null/scummy
Alzadar: His filter is very forgettable for me. Outside of the attempted "how many games has everyone played" post (which is also grossly inaccurate). Doesn't mention me at all besides in response to my direct corrections to his errors, despite my first-half D1 being literally trundle. Seriously, anyone who wasn't considering me a viable D1 wagon is probably scum (or bad town who could also be axed if we don't find scum today)
Old Jeff: trolling about as hard as I was, and that's an achievement given how hard I was trolling. Nulling him for now, actually despite everyone scumreading him. I think his behavior makes sense for D1 and is fine. But not townsided as yet.
Asmo: Aggressiveness is not a scum tell lel. In fact, given this is TL mafia, it's usually the opposite (I've been listening to vets moan about how TL scum players just lurk and get killed because it boosts their win percentage by getting auto-town reads). In any event, scum DON'T want to be confrontational unless they're caught and need to defend themselves. Scum play tends to be more passive and "lurky", since the goal for scum is to survive.
Also, overall find your post pretty meh, so still null. Most "towny" of this list, but w/e, not happy with that post.
Either mafia newbs or scum, I Can't Tell
MoonBear: Either his continuous attempts to discuss blue roles is a sign of newbishness, or a bald-faced (newbish) scum play. Can't tell which. Given this is a newbie game probably the former but eh. Also, MoonBear makes a gigantic post that can be summed up in like 5 short sentences.
"Is Wave WIFOMing? I don't know. Host-Player WIFOM. Let me badger for roles and stuff again. Also I think Alzadar, sweglerd, and Req are weird."
See MoonBear? Wasn't that simpler and easier to write?
Req: He's flailing around the noob card so hard, I'm surprised his arms haven't fallen off. And spending his time saying "wagh I don't like that you guys are trying to play mafia wagh". I give free passes for that in newbie games, but you're overusing it so hard right now, it sounds like you're just scum trying to use it to excuse everything. Also:
Tolkien is just trying to kill Wave out of principle, which I can understand.
I said I'd kill JEFF out of principle. I said I'd kill Wave because vengeance for making me bald and because he was being uncharacteristically Un-Canadian when he tried to club baby seals jeff.
Also:
As to people thinking I'm scum because my posts are stupid, you're going to feel awfully silly when you realize I'm just Vanilla and have no clue how to play the game. But hey, if noob = scum then you got me.
This is basically a live mafia level play that I would do. Hint: Storr ends up policy-lynching me D1 everytime I go "whatever, I'm town and screw you all, you'll see when I flip". Why? Because it's a terrible defense and you clearly don't care about the game (which is true everytime I do it in live: gotta watch dem smash and LoL games).
As I carry myself much differently in forum and live mafia, I'd say lynch him for the attitude alone.
Bunch-o Lurking Voyeurs
OWB: Apparently lurking is his meta. Would lynch if only because it means he'll likely be useless in following days and will be harder to read with less posts.
ComaDose: In a coma. Or drunk. Or both. Then again he just posted so... Also, about as bad as Req in pulling the "hi im new" card. Also,
I didnt really think anyone acted particularly scummy. i do think people like alaric and asmo are putting in good townie effort. unless they are in on it together?!?!
wat. My brain is all WOOSH. I cannot contain this illogic.
Two people putting in effort to find scum doesn't mean they're working together. wat
Anyways, NO MORE NOOB CLAIM PLOX.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/301748-a-general-guide-to-mafia
read this instead of complaining (REQ...)
I'd be pretty happy with a MoonBear wagon right about now. Otherwise a policy lynch of Req or a lurker would suffice.
##Vote MoonBear
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Oh good, I was expecting nothing to happen while I slept. List post is still list post, but at least it comes to a conclusion I can agree with.
But listen guys - a quiet atmosphere is a scum atmosphere. The less discussion that occurs, the easier it is for scum to just walk around and do whatever they want.
Mordek/Alzadar - do you still think 6ah is a worthy vote? Why? Would you want him dead over MoonBear? Do you have a scum read/reason for someone other than MoonBear?
Same questions go for those voting Alzadar (6ah/Asmo)
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Oh so Tolkien you're not interested in voting for a lurker anymore?
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Alright, still busy tofay but more time to read and post. I do apologize for my behavior yesterday, I did only have time to read a few and got upset that many of them were directed at my posting. I should know better than to take things like that personally.
Now, I still think it's far too early to make many calls - not saying D1 is useless again, but still that most calls are too gut-feeling to be substantial. But as of now my biggest read is Lord Tolkien. Why? He seems to be bandwagoning for no lurker bans on OWB and Coma, and also see-sawing on saying "I dislike policy bans" and "we should just policy ban.
If I understand correctly, scum know who scum are. So the only reason he should be protrcting anyone is either a) he's scum and so are they or b) he's too sentimental. I don't think it's the latter.
##unvote WaveOfShadow
##vote Lord Tolkien
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Yay req!
Alright let's go a little further.
You think Tolkien is protecting someone? Who do you think he is protecting specifically? I can tell you that often mafia team members will actively try to distance themselves from any teammates in thread rather than protect them outright for fear of being connected, if one of them flips.
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Very iffy at this point, but I'm feeling OWB. If Scumlord is Scum then he's doing a good job of saying "OWB will be useless onve he starts posting and should be lynched, but I'm not going to lynch him yet".
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What you're saying is actually very possible. As you can probably tell this is the biggest problem I have with our Swaglord at the moment---his attitude and posting simply do not match up for most of the game. All he does for the entirety of his early posting is whine about lurkers and how it's the best call to lurker lynch in a newbie game. I can say I have absolutely zero problem with that attitude on its own, and may very well have some truth to it. The problem lies with the fact that no matter how often he says it, he doesn't act or push for that lynch---instead when questioned about it he changes his attitude saying 'well I'd rather not but if we gotta.'
This is HUGE guiltypants.
a) He is concerned that we will find this attitude scummy and so he backtracks, trying to show us that 'well I certainly would rather me more productive and lynch someone else.' The thing is, if he simply sticks to his guns there is not necessarily anything wrong with a lurker lynch on D1---he even goes so far as to provide reasoning. Why does he feel the need to constantly diminish his own ideals and backtrack?
b) He slipped a little. The timing of the post he was called out for makes this somewhat evident. I already talked about how an anti-town attitude can often be a scum marker as they don't truly care what town does (as long as they're not lynching scum) and it can bleed through into posting. The fact that with just under 24h to go Tolkien seems to believe the day a lost cause already and we need to 'resort to a lurker lynch,' is fairly scummy. This is compounded with the earlier fact that he seems to begrudgingly state this---'I don't REALLY want to lynch a lurker guys but if we HAVE to...' which makes absolutely no sense to say with so much time left in the day., ESPECIALLY if you've dropped your hard stance on lurker lynching you had at the beginning of the day.
c) I can't discount the possibility that Tolkien is in fact town but there are a lot of incongruous mindset issues that need to be addressed here. At this point I might move Swaglord to top 3 on my list.
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I would also like to note I may simply fallback to a Jeff lynch today. If he doesn't want to play he leaves my game.
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