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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2014 14:04 GMT
#501
Quick post since soniv directed a question to me. I plan to unvote but had not decided on who was more appropriate. I actually like reqs read a lot. I was uneasy about swaglord. He's asserted he's confirmed town but honestly don't feel like he's done more than those he's critiqued.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#502
*nod* I, too, like Req's read
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 12 2014 14:06 GMT
#503
Well I think everyone at this point wants to think that they read confirmed town whether they're trying or not. But it doesn't really mean anything does it?
It's your boy Guzma!
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2014 14:11 GMT
#504
Sure, but when all of your posts (until his one content post) have been trolly and "let's lynch lurkers oh wait but don't", saying you're confirmed town is a farce.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 14:12 GMT
#505
lol fuck that, no offense Req but if tolkien flips red I want credit for drawing attention to it first

Any thoughts on my post people?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2014 14:16 GMT
#506
Well, I don't like this part

On October 12 2014 22:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
I would also like to note I may simply fallback to a Jeff lynch today. If he doesn't want to play he leaves my game.


I still have no reason to believe he's scum. I understand policy lynches, but we learn nothing from lynching jeff today. If he flips green, then we killed an apathetic town, sure, we get rid of a useless appendage. If he flips red, then woohoo, but I've got a feeling that won't happen. You accused him, you "pressured" him, and he reacted pretty much the way I (and probably you) thought he would. He's disinterested in the game, which sucks, but I don't see red in his motives, just an angsty teen.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 14:21 GMT
#507
Well I'm glad that was the one thing you got out of my post.

And if he continues to play that way, at what point do we do something about it? He's not going to get any easier to read as the game goes on.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2014 14:24 GMT
#508
Well, I think it's more important for Swaglord to address the meat of your post than for me to. You make good points, but this town is suffering from Anyonewhogetsaccusedfuckingdisappears-itis
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 12 2014 14:38 GMT
#509
On October 12 2014 23:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I'm glad that was the one thing you got out of my post.

And if he continues to play that way, at what point do we do something about it? He's not going to get any easier to read as the game goes on.

Yo I get Jeff is Jeff but killing him on the principle that he's Jeff is kinda scummy.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 14:45 GMT
#510
It's not on the principle that he's Jeff.
Read what I wrote. If he is not actively helping solve the game, there are two possibilities (I am not considering 3P for now):
a) he is town, and by not helping us actively solve the game he is a massive question mark looming over our heads all game---we won't know what alignment he is and it makes it real easy for scum to keep him alive forever because there will be the possibility of him being mislynched/fucking us over at LYLO (look up what LYLO means)

b) He is scum and by not contributing he is scum.

Either way, not playing the game does not do us any good, and by removing him we remove a massive question mark that may affect us negatively down the road.

I don't think I said anywhere that I'm going to lynch him today, only that I see it is a possibility. What I don't like is how so many people are just willing to let his behaviour slide.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 12 2014 14:51 GMT
#511
On October 12 2014 23:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
It's not on the principle that he's Jeff.
Read what I wrote. If he is not actively helping solve the game, there are two possibilities (I am not considering 3P for now):
a) he is town, and by not helping us actively solve the game he is a massive question mark looming over our heads all game---we won't know what alignment he is and it makes it real easy for scum to keep him alive forever because there will be the possibility of him being mislynched/fucking us over at LYLO (look up what LYLO means)

b) He is scum and by not contributing he is scum.

Either way, not playing the game does not do us any good, and by removing him we remove a massive question mark that may affect us negatively down the road.

I don't think I said anywhere that I'm going to lynch him today, only that I see it is a possibility. What I don't like is how so many people are just willing to let his behaviour slide.


I'm with you on the possibility. I misunderstood and thought you were leaning towards a Jeff vote.

But talk to me. You said you liked my post on MoonBear (and hated that you liked it). Any reason you're not more interested in looking to him for your vote?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 14:55 GMT
#512
I don't think there's anything more to say about MB until he comes back (if he does). I could definitely vote him today.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 12 2014 14:58 GMT
#513
Yeah, I really want MB to come back to hear his defense (if there is any).

Also, LT, you're jumping on Req's case for noob stuff, even to the extent of a policy lynch on him as if he were lurker scum, but 6ah and I have done similarly bad noob BS. Why Req more than anyone else?
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 12 2014 15:07 GMT
#514
So much talk behind my back when I'm not here omg

I think Lord Tolkien's post was interesting, and I'd probably agree that putting Moonbear on the spot is the best idea for reasons stated, but until he actually comes, I'd like to wonder aloud why Alaric pointed all those fingers and bolted, seems fishy to me.

I don't trust LordTolkien, but he trusts me so I don't wanna poke that beehive.

pls forgive me for being bad
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
October 12 2014 15:12 GMT
#515
So Jeff's post has drama, scattered points, and an apology. Not exactly town-like.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
October 12 2014 15:12 GMT
#516
ugh hmmm im not sure what to do.
##vote GhandiEAGLE
sorry jeff
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 12 2014 16:34 GMT
#517
I'm really confused by Wave's posts. He complains about people saying one thing, and never voting on the people they find suspicious. He then turns around and does the same thing. In the last two pages, he has mentioned moonbear, LordTolkien, and GhandiEagle. Yet, he has never voted on any of these people. To me, it seems like a scummy play which he can make because he seems to really want to control the flow of this game. I don't see it as a towny play because he causes confusion and it redirects a lot of the potential lynches over and over. He has done since the beginning, and he continues doing so.

The biggest issue I still have is that Wave seems like he really wants to control this game, and despite his efforts, it hasn't actually gotten us any closer to finding a real day 1 scummy player. Again, he has flip flopped multiple times on his top scum. He has also complained about multiple people not voting, but he has not actually voted for any of these guys. It is as if he is waiting for others to lead the charge so he can vote on them, and declare himself the best player ever.

I also dislike the interaction between Wave and Req when talking about LordTolkien. To me, it encompasses everything wrong with how Wave is playing this game. It was a lot of bread crumbing/hand holding from Wave to get Requizen to where he wanted him. If he is just playing a teacher town role, then it sucks. If Req had explained himself without that hand holding from Wave, we'd have much better reads.

Day 1 lynch on Wave is impossible I think, but I hope people don't just follow him blindly just because he has taken this teacher type role in the game.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 12 2014 16:35 GMT
#518
On October 12 2014 22:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:Mordek/Alzadar - do you still think 6ah is a worthy vote? Why? Would you want him dead over MoonBear? Do you have a scum read/reason for someone other than MoonBear?


No. I'm satisfied with the Innocent Child claim for now, since nobody has disputed it.

##Unvote: Cixah

Anyways:

OWB is fully lurker atm, hopefully he shows up later today. Coma's semi-lurking but he's Canadian so he gets a pass for this weekend.

Now I know it seems I'm hopping on a bandwagon here, but I've been thinking this for awhile and it's my strongest read yet: Lord Tolkien. Everything he's done so far has been empty distraction tactics:

-already noted, but constantly saying "we should policy lynch lurkers, but I don't like policy lynch", even when at the time he was the only one even mentioning policy lynchings. He's trying to distance himself from it while still indirectly pushing for a lynch on OWB/Coma.

-random video spam, this is just annoying and shits up the topic and his filter

-he keeps repeating how my games played list was inaccurate. Why? I've already said I just took the numbers from the database, if those are wrong I can't help it. The point of the list wasn't to plug the numbers into an equation sqrt(x/y) = scum, just to point out "these guys are vets, these guys have played a bit, the rest of us are forum mafia nooblords". Despite everyone (except Coma) deriding that post I still think it's worth knowing - it's just extra information to take note of, obviously it shouldn't solely colour your judgement.

-I don't know what I think about his wall post last page. He does end with a vote so it's not just fluff like some other previous, but it doesn't feel like a hugely insightful post either.

##Vote: Lord Tolkien

My only misgiving is his voting for MoonBear, who is my second pick for scum.
I am the Town Medic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 12 2014 16:39 GMT
#519
lol ketchup
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 12 2014 16:40 GMT
#520
lol wave
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