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On October 14 2014 05:10 Holyflare wrote: Damd is mafia storr. It explains why hopeless stuck to his dand mafia read with such a shit case.
unless damd was shot n1 (idk why) and they know he is either psn or medic save and wanted to see information based on that push.
if damd is mafia its less likely kel is psner.
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thx palmar. recent stuff going down. thoughts on damd and kel thx
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i still think kel is higher chance of being mafia. damd really looks like psner in my eyes.
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On October 14 2014 05:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2014 05:31 StorrZerg wrote: i still think kel is higher chance of being mafia. damd really looks like psner in my eyes.
this doesn't make sense at all seeing as he lied about knowing the MAFIA kills
? what are you talking about
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On October 14 2014 05:37 Holyflare wrote: literally what i wrote just on the last page!?!? he said i was going to die tonight despite palmar and everyone pushing that i was poisoner who was SHOT n1, if he thought this wasn't the case (that i was poisoner) he must have thought there was a medic in which case i wouldn't be dying tonight anyway
you then posted about the bh thing and when i called him out on being overcertain and knowing what you said was true he used you posting about the bh thing as justification of his previous thing about me dying despite that occurring AFTER.
i can agree on the bold stuff.
i don't think what he said about you dieing is that bad. it is likely you will die tonight, you have been very active, pushing town in the right direction etc, its not a far thing to suspect.
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and kel. where are you voting
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@hf what happened to the super strong town read on damd you had when hopeless pushed on him?
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On October 14 2014 06:25 KelsierSC wrote: why is it more likely there is a medic than mafia shot poisoner?
because mafia would have shot the psner last night.
When mafia made the kill n1.
And after h1 died day 2.
They didn't know what they had shot, if it was vet, psner, or a medic save.
If it was medic save, they know for certain they can kill that person now. 2 killing psner is good for them since only 1 mafia is left. So they put shot on same person, its not worth leaving a confirmed medic save alive.
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On October 14 2014 06:30 Damdred wrote: i'm really tempted just to peace out and laugh when i flip vanillia. Your the strongest player left hf and most likely to either of gotten poisoned last night or nk targeted tonight, you pushed the most likely to be mafia so whatever.
fantastic don't fight to live. don't help us figure out the game
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On October 14 2014 06:36 Holyflare wrote: yes slam has tried to jump onto every single wagon that is going
part of why i think kel is more likely mafia than damd.
seems mroe likely the other mafia was on obi.
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On October 14 2014 06:38 KelsierSC wrote: So here is my thoughts right now about poisoner.
Say mafia shoots poisoner last night.
Firstly mafia has to hope he doesn't get vigi shot, and then with only 1 kp he has to get like 3 ML's. Is my math right on that? Either way it is possible that mafia member needs to preserve 2 KP.
mafia doesn't know a psner is in the game last night though. we only confirmed psner is in this game when we woke up this day.
Mafia doesn't half to hope. It was pretty clear who was going to be shot by the vig.
Conclusion, they can't have known if their n1 shot was on a medic or psn. Continuing with the shot, confirms to them whats in the game, + psner still would get a second kill even after death (correct?)
By killing who they shot n1, it confirms whats going on in the game, and lets the last mafia have the most possible information going into this day.
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does a medic save, prevent someones death from psn?
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On October 14 2014 06:52 StorrZerg wrote: does a medic save, prevent someones death from psn?
see real medic would know this question
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On October 14 2014 06:53 Holyflare wrote: yes it does hence why i wouldnt die to anything tonight unless double stack
this is only the case if you didnt get saved last night.
Considering all things, its likely you could have been saved last night, and didn't get saved n1.
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On October 14 2014 07:30 Damdred wrote: because the most frustrating thing in the game is trying to do stuff or putting an idea out. Getting red checked by half of the people some of which haven't been playing at all and thats all i hear lie lie lie lie, mafia mafia mafia
who is mafia then
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On October 14 2014 08:25 Palmar wrote: Just in case of shenanigans.
Damdred is most likely mafia.
If you lynch me, you HAVE to hit scum tomorrow (unless something weird happens). You literally cannot even try to hit the poisoner, as that has a chance of losing the game.
If Damdred is not it, we probably lost anyway, but just in case something weird happens (maybe damdred will die tonight from poison or something)
Kel is not mafia. I've explained this quite a few times. He is my number 1 townread aside from the confirmed vigilante. I am fairly confident in this read. Make sure that you understand it.
- 1. He called me scum all day 1, then changed his mind completely during n1. Shows he's actively thinking about the game - 2. He repeatedly follows up on questions and gets annoyed when he isn't being replied to. This is kinda hard to fake as mafia.
Obi seems sorta content we're not lynching him, but he did push mafia so I guess we'll have to give him a pass. I'd like him to be more involved in figuring things out today.
Slam jumps every wagon in sight, while I have good reasons to think HF is mafia, he didn't even need it explained to him at all, he just blindly joined my wagon on hf. If damdred is not mafia or hf is not poisoner, he is a good alternate candidate.
Storr's contributions today have been... meh. He's super "cold" I guess I'd call it. He's another good shot of flipping mafia. If damdred flips town, I think tomorrow has to be between slam and storr. I don't wanna make a call without re-reading them, and also, I kinda think damdred will flip mafia and this will sort itself out.
Holyflare is likely the poisoner. Mafia probably shot him n1, he didn't die, he rekt scum, scum got butthurt and outed him. We can't lynch him from now on today (I can't be the only one who has to sleep earlier?), so you can ignore him tomorrow. Don't let him endgame you though if this goes to 2v1 with poisoner alive.
problem is mafia couldn't have known hf was psner at that time. Considering they had no idea a psner was around when h1 died
so very large flaw in that thinking
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i filter palmar he seems fine.
i see palmar logic, it screams of being terribad. makes me want to lynch him today... zzz
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i also think his town read of kel is weak as fk for how strong he makes it sound.
palmar can you explain the framing issue regarding kel?
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