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On September 27 2014 03:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 03:27 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 03:04 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 03:00 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another I'm not. I'm pushing a scum read who continues to hinder town. I'm biased on superbia since he town read me. I think I understand his read, but I can agree he should explain more.I can't explain it now, cause if it sounds good "he will just sheep" so yes, I want him to explain more to make sure I'm just not being pocketed. what an awful statement when i just proposed a case that showed this read was entirely fabricated and he lied about his town read being explained previously and his differences in giving out these town reads not to mention that it was a super shallow town read when he even said he couldn't read you day 1 and you often fool him so not only is it weird in that regard but it's super odd you aren't going to comment on it at all I said i wanted him to explain more about his read... you getting your panties in a bunch isn't helping. i want you to comment on it before he says anything because it's not just about reading him it's about reading you and i'm not interested in joke responses from you
your main issue is how he town read me. Me explaining his town read from my point of view doesn't help. Your concern is him. Let him explain, i'll comment after.
Why don't we move on to skydragon right now who is active and posting
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On September 27 2014 03:37 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 03:34 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 03:26 SkyDragon wrote:
"It only works if you truly believe"? Wtf does that mean? You're either Town or you're not. Does that mean that you're scum? Playing completely like you're Town, as if you've been given a Town card and you won't let any scum thoughts enter your mind even though you're scum? In essence, you've been given the scum card but 'you truly believe that you're Town so you're Town'? Just doesn't sit right with me at all.
I've thought Storr has been pretty suspicious to varying degrees over the last 48 hours anyway. He may have 'lightened up' for a brief period yesterday (Hence why I said he was less suspicious) but overall, I still think he's more likely than everyone else to be scum. See you don't believe, hence you could never understand. So 0 point of you speculating on how i can do this. Or even why its relevant to the game at this point (besides me being confirmed town) Well.. That didn't explain anything at all. And there you go again confirming yourself as Town as if that somehow magically makes people believe it.
Ill comment on some of your things. Haru, town read early on. Haru then claimed would be inactive because of worlds, would post when he could.
My defense, was on someone who i had leaning town, who i knew was going to be inactive. He was then pressured, by someone i feel is scummy, (gb) before haru would be back to defend. Hence, waste of time, waste of pressure. If GB truly cared about haru's alignment, he would have waited for haru to post when back in the thread. Then make the read. Or he could have just found out when worlds ended, so he could be sure if haru was lurking/ dodging the thread or came back and posted like haru said he would.
As for killing's comment. He doesn't make that statement if he thinks i could be mafia. SO either he is town, with a correct read, or he is mafia with a correct read. Hence i'm confirmed by his read. (as well as being confirmed previously)
as for FF, he has continued to be a lack luster player in this game with minimal impact.
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On September 27 2014 03:42 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 03:38 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 03:29 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 03:27 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 03:04 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 03:00 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another I'm not. I'm pushing a scum read who continues to hinder town. I'm biased on superbia since he town read me. I think I understand his read, but I can agree he should explain more.I can't explain it now, cause if it sounds good "he will just sheep" so yes, I want him to explain more to make sure I'm just not being pocketed. what an awful statement when i just proposed a case that showed this read was entirely fabricated and he lied about his town read being explained previously and his differences in giving out these town reads not to mention that it was a super shallow town read when he even said he couldn't read you day 1 and you often fool him so not only is it weird in that regard but it's super odd you aren't going to comment on it at all I said i wanted him to explain more about his read... you getting your panties in a bunch isn't helping. i want you to comment on it before he says anything because it's not just about reading him it's about reading you and i'm not interested in joke responses from you your main issue is how he town read me. Me explaining his town read from my point of view doesn't help. Your concern is him. Let him explain, i'll comment after. Why don't we move on to skydragon right now who is active and posting this is just not true at all the town read on you is only part of it and yes it does help me, stop being a twat and explain yourself
you can push all you want. i'm not explaining till he does. You have raised points about him. I'm considering them, i want to check to make sure what he says is what i was thinking about his read.
Thats the end. move on. Make sure I respond to this after he posts.
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On September 27 2014 03:50 SkyDragon wrote:
Yeah, but Scum is known to make excuses about real-world problems for their lack of activity. It gives them an excuse to just sit in the background while Town accuses each other for stupid reasons. Although I think Haru had a reasonably valid reason for getting excited about green vt, it still could be a ruse. Your eagerness at jumping on board the "Haru is town" train and even going as far as to protect Haru just seems really odd to me.
and so are town. SO that statement is silly.
I"M GOING TO BE VERY BUSY THIS WEEKEND BIKING 60+ MILES AND CAMPING. GUESS IM SCUM FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT MY REAL LIFE SHIT A HEAD OF TIME.
yeah see how silly that sounds? See how silly it is to make some assumption.
You want to punish people for excuses after the fact to cover up inactivity. I like knowing if someone is going to be around at EoD, i like to know if someone is going to be gone for an extended period of time. If i know these things, then i don't have to waste time asking stupid questions, or pushing stupid shit when they are clearly not around.
If someone is going to be afk the whole time, get replaced regardless of alignment. If someone claims they will be busy til X time, then is ON TO POST AND COMMENT. then why the hell would you not wait and let them comment then.
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On September 26 2014 19:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 15:38 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:I like batsnacks like 10x more now and I DO agree with his case. However, with the reaction skydragon started displaying right after i'm getting the unflipped association that sky might be mafia and gb town  Could you explain this? Sure. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that. This post. Sky disregards the entirety of batsnacks long posts about GB in like 1 or 2 sentences even though the case was pretty good. The bolded just seemed super weird in context because it's like "hey can't you see this guy is blatantly doing this!" when in actual fact he isn't really and it just seemed he knew GB's motives better than anyone else in the game did.
What changed HF.
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On September 27 2014 04:11 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm well aware that people have to tend to real life. I just stated that Scum uses it as an excuse more often than not.
Also, you admit that both sides could use that excuse, but Haru is Town because.. Well, just because you say he/she is. Of course, there's also the fact that things apparently just flowed "naturally" out of Haru when he/she admitted to being blue/green vt (According to you) and now you're willing to protect him/her against anything and everything now.
Nice logic there. Flawed and something that I'd never, ever do because it just does not make sense.
your statement is irrelevant. And my logic isn't bad. My read on haru was independent of him going to worlds.
My defense of haru was policy because haru was not around. IF gb had just followed up with haru to make sure he was around after worlds thats one thing. Instead gb was pushing super hard that Haru had to be scum (at a time when haru could not defend himself) , and he was voting with killing intent. Yet as soon as haru posts, magical townie read that he has failed to explain. You trumping things up to be more than they are is scummy. specially since you obviously don't understand what the hell your pushing.
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On September 27 2014 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think you're paying any attention to anything at all storr it's pretty bad
k he posted ill respond.
I thought his townie read on me for backing off sky has to do with pro town. Sky was obviously upset, and was doing nothing productive, not to mention avoiding my questions. I backed off. WHy? because i know if i keep pressuring him nothing is going to happen, because he is just going to wallow in self pitty or w/e the crap he is doing. My time is better spent pushing something else, and allowing sky to feel like he has some room to come back into the game and post. WHy? cause im not here to ruin the game, i want to win the game.
I figured superbia's town read had to do with this statement.
His comment about my recent mafia game, and video mafia game made sense. I clearly am playing different, and if he watched game 2 of video, he could probably assume this is closer to my "aggressive town play"
him having a sub read that he is unwilling to share is interesting. I harped on GB for that bs reason to hide his 180 on haru for unfounded reasons other than "harus started posting because haru wasn't at worlds" SO yeah, i think its bs that superbia is going to hide behind that.
deal is, his actions line up. I Don't believe he lied as you paint it, not to mention you cherry picked a few things when i reread him. He feels he has a way to read me d2 and on (lets call it a hard read based off meta or some bull) and he has tried to read me off my current play (so day 1, calling me town). I don't believe anything he said was contradicting or bad.
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On September 27 2014 04:34 HaruRH wrote:
Right, everyone should switch to superbia now. He basically claimed scum.
explain...
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On September 27 2014 05:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I thought it's quite apparent what I'm pushing - That both Town and Scum can use real-world excuses for long periods of absence. You're now saying that you defended Haru because he wasn't around, which is fair enough but I don't see any reason as to why anyone would bother defending anyone on Day 1 since he could be scum trying to hide. He's obviously visiting this thread at least once a day so doesn't need anyone to speak for him or defend him. I thought that all of this is pretty obvious.
I'm not trumping up anything that I haven't already said before.
Why? because its productive to be talking about the game with people that can be active. its literally useless to be bitching about haru when haru is afk till a set time. The discussion literally devolves into "well we need haru to talk"
why would anyone defend anyone day 1? because its this magical thing called "reads" its also part of the game of mafia. Trying to lynch mafia, and not lynching town.
SO yeah, i'm going to defend haru because gb is pushing a shit tastic lynch idea. (case and point him reversing his read as soon as haru talks)
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@palmar you have been asked before to read Skydragon. why have you avoided him... he is a gold mine of false promises and contradictions. Hell his active pushing right now is almost as if someone told him how to do something.
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On September 27 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
I want to give sky another day. Would lynch Superbia because of everything HF said, but I'm keeping my vote on GB for now.
Why give him another day..
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im back going to start rereading in a few mins. questions now or ill catching up past few pages.
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On September 27 2014 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
can we vote hopeless now
is hopeless the right lynch cause he is afk?
going to reread hopeless
still leaning sky...
of the 2. i have faith in hopeless doing something day 2.
i have 0 faith in sky being able to do anything besides being a donkey.
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someone asked me about fecal. updated feelings, he is playing now not trolling, actually doing something now.
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On September 27 2014 05:37 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 05:24 StorrZerg wrote:
@palmar you have been asked before to read Skydragon. why have you avoided him... he is a gold mine of false promises and contradictions. Hell his active pushing right now is almost as if someone told him how to do something. Bolded for what follows: Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 10:37 StorrZerg wrote:
seriously sky. just take a step back, away for an hour. Come back, respond to things on page 26 and back. Then read page 26 and forward. respond. then you are allowed to get frustrated. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:56 StorrZerg wrote:On September 26 2014 08:56 SkyDragon wrote:On September 26 2014 08:53 batsnacks wrote:I guess you can't convince yourself I'm not scum if you're scum. Sorry I should have considered that.
I mean wolf. You haven't said anything worthwhile. Just deflected, deflected and deflected. YOU CAN"T AVOID ME FOREVER ##VOTE SKYDRAGON Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:54 StorrZerg wrote:
bat stop being a distracting woman with bare breasts.
cover those knockers out so he can focus on something he has planned to do, and is failing to do. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:51 StorrZerg wrote:On September 26 2014 08:51 SkyDragon wrote:
So a post made in response to a question asking "why d1 claimers got lynched on SK" is "scummy"? Really? Jesus Christ.
And did you really just say that I have to convince myself that you're not scum? And how would I be able to do that? Please enlighten me. easy stop being distracted and press your case on me Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:49 StorrZerg wrote:On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that. next time ignore it and finish your post.. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:12 StorrZerg wrote:On September 26 2014 08:02 StorrZerg wrote:On September 26 2014 07:54 SkyDragon wrote:On September 26 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:
Why would I even consider Storr today if I feel I can easily read him during later days?
Sky, would you support a hopeless lynch? Yeah, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him. I'd rather go for Storr though. ok so then push me. make a detailed read, quote some posts. explain why i'm scummy. @SKYDRAGON seriously stop dodging
kk np then ill take all thw town credit for explaining how to play.
still you have a lot of irrelevant quotes in here.
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On September 27 2014 07:55 SkyDragon wrote:
You know Storr, I just noticed that when things don't go your way, you seem to really take it personally. It's a bit childish. I think your vote on me is simply just to remove anyone calling you out and making you look like scum. Were I to be lynched, I think it's highly likely that GB will be your next target for Day 2 (Or Day 3 if you don't want to make it obvious).
probably your best comment of the game.
lynching the people i think are scum. what a concept
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On September 27 2014 08:03 SkyDragon wrote:
I was implying that you were scum trying to take out anyone who made you look like it. Were me and GB taken out, the rest of the game would be easy for you and the Wolves. You have half the town wrapped around your little finger and you've already stated earlier that you're playing to win.
and im sure town would hang my by my toe nails if that was the case and went down that line. implying a bunch of what ifs means nothing
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On September 27 2014 08:13 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:03 SkyDragon wrote:
I was implying that you were scum trying to take out anyone who made you look like it. Were me and GB taken out, the rest of the game would be easy for you and the Wolves. You have half the town wrapped around your little finger and you've already stated earlier that you're playing to win. I just went and re read your filter. This is the first time you've said GB was town. How do you know GB is town?
got em
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On September 27 2014 08:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't, but he's suspicious of Storr like I am. If Storr actually is scum, then GB is Town. My only real obstacle to showing that I really am a Villager has been Storr. He's taken a very active role since the start of d1 and has effectively told others who is Town and who isn't, who should be lynched and who shouldn't be, whose readings to take seriously and whose readings are nonsense. He's basically manipulating a large number of people to see things in the way that he wants them to see things. It's scummy to me.
this is a joke right?
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On September 27 2014 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:15 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 08:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't, but he's suspicious of Storr like I am. If Storr actually is scum, then GB is Town. My only real obstacle to showing that I really am a Villager has been Storr. He's taken a very active role since the start of d1 and has effectively told others who is Town and who isn't, who should be lynched and who shouldn't be, whose readings to take seriously and whose readings are nonsense. He's basically manipulating a large number of people to see things in the way that he wants them to see things. It's scummy to me. this is a joke right? omg... what you are describing right there is good townplay. Nothing scummy in the slightest about that.
what are you talking about.
he just said i was the only one hassling his britches when thats far from the truth
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