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On September 22 2014 18:34 Promethelax wrote: I've never really gotten into any anime shows. I've watched a couple episodes here and there but nothing ever really grabbed me. Despite that I still know that kush is wrong. /thread | ||
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On September 24 2014 03:02 Grackaroni wrote: But TL Mafia is already dying from lack of Blazinghand. ^ | ||
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On September 24 2014 10:33 yamato77 wrote: so uh hapa is mafia go I wanted to say this too but I call Hapa mafia like EVERY D1 I've ever played with him. But he REALLY didn't want people to think they can't lynch VE today, which really chaps my ass, because I really DO want people to think they can't lynch VE today. | ||
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What do you think about Chairman Ray's Defender claim? | ||
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Think of it from a win-condition perspective. If he's really the Defender then PRESENTLY his win-condition is to survive til endgame. If he makes a save then his win-con changes to a TOWN win condition, but from what I see it looks like PRESENTLY his win-condition is to just survive til end-game. Why wouldn't mafia kill him in the night then? If he's able to interfere with their kills, then there's literally no reason NOT to put a bullet on him REGARDLESS of the fact that he's claimed third party. How about if he actually DOES make a save? MMMEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....I'm pretty sure I don't believe the claim. I'm not sure what I think this means with regard to his alignment, though I lean mafia. I'll give a definitive answer on that a little later (he's posted exactly once in the QT, so he at the very least knows where it's located.) However it seems like he's claimed that he's done posting for the day. If that's the case then I'm all about lynching him.  | ||
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:/ That makes a little more sense then - he could be Defender. He didn't mention it in the QT though - it just seems to me like a real Defender would mention that in the QT BEFORE bringing it to the thread, but honestly that's just my own opinion and can see him thinking out-loud in the thread or whatever. | ||
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On September 24 2014 08:19 geript wrote: I'm half tempted to flip CR to see if VE is confirmed town or not. Is it because he wants to call me "confirmed town" based on CR's flip in spite of no such certainty coming with such a flip? | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:43 Grackaroni wrote: I want those townie points but I don't know why. I get 'em bitch, I gave reasoning. You just quoted a post GET OFF ME!!! | ||
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I'm guessing Hapa's reasoning, I didn't say I thought you were scummy for it. I would absolutely LOVE for you to call me confirmed town for whatever reason you want! | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:46 Damdred wrote: I thought the same thing you did VE, and posted the same thing not to far apart. You just quoted a post. If we're going by thoroughness, I'd say I deserve the townie points more - but I concede that you WERE first to quote the post. How about we shares 'em? | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Can i have one? I'll give you a Townie Brownie if you make a mafia case on Kush before he even enters the thread. | ||
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There's likely one mafia in DP/Hapa based on how they both seem to be trying to buddy with him DURING their little argument. I have liked DP's posts since he came back and the way Hapa was trying to steer people away from leaving me off the lynch list earlier makes me think it's Hapa. ##Vote: Hapahauli His whole "10 townie points for who can tell me why" was just nonsense to appear contributory because there wasn't one specific thing he was looking for as made evident by his "case" against geript a little later on. It's a clever little trick I sometimes use when I'm mafia - it makes the thread think you're reading closely and that you've noticed something and gosh, wouldn't it be cool if I noticed the same thing too? Not feelin it. yamato is probably town - standard 1-liner posts, general observations...I don't like that he's suspicious of me, but not everyone is as perfect as me. Damdred and I seem to be on the same wavelength at least in terms of what we're looking for to find mafia - gonna throw him in the townpile for now and see how I like that. MM1 gets 1 Townie Brownie for making a decent case on Kush before he entered the thread. If we lynch a lurker instead of a scumspect, I'm willing to go with Kush based on MM1's observation. Will not lynch MM1 today. CR hasn't said anything more in our QT. He's claimed 3rd Party in the thread. There you go. | ||
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I had a paragraph on why geript is town but removed it. Whatever. | ||
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I WANNA call you town Grack does that count? | ||
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On September 24 2014 16:21 Hapahauli wrote: @ VE If you made my "town points" thing to be suspicious and mafia-motivated, why did you play along so much? What I find suspicious is that there wasn't any townie points for me to have Hapa! THERE WERE NO TOWNIE POINTS FOR ME TO WREST FROM YOU WILLFULLY!!!! | ||
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On September 24 2014 16:30 Hapahauli wrote: I'm not joking around VE. Explain yourself. I'm not joking around either. There was no point to the post you made referencing "townie points", which means that you never found anything suspicious about geript. Your whole "case" on him is just listing out his posts and making generic statements about them, which I could literally do about anyone in the thread as either alignment and I know geript can too, and I have a sneaking suspicion that you know that too. So don't tell ME to explain myself Hapa. YOU explain YOURSELF. WHY were there no townie points to be had? Why did you say there was something specific about geript's posts that you noticed which you never really mention? Unless you're talking about the whole "disjointed from the thread" thing which I don't even see and looks completely made up. | ||
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I'm goin to bed for real now. | ||
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This is what I'm referring to. On September 24 2014 11:42 VisceraEyes wrote: Is it because he wants to call me "confirmed town" based on CR's flip in spite of no such certainty coming with such a flip? I'm not talking about his reads, I mean he's approaching the game with the same mindset as me so I trust him. Unlike you. | ||
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On September 24 2014 18:59 Hapahauli wrote: Town VE and "multiple confident town-reads" are oil and water. On September 15 2014 10:02 VisceraEyes wrote: For the moment, I'm referring to everyone in the above conversation as the "Rock Stars" and they're all off limits for lynch today. Like all of them. Thank you for your understanding. LOL | ||
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Tell me what troubles you and let me EAAASE your mind. | ||
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Everyone should vote for Hapa. DP, not voting for Hapa because "Oh he could be an asset" is asinine, what if this was a town full of people like that? In fact, looking around, I'd say this IS a town full of people like that, with a COUPLE of exceptions that I won't even name. Let's just kill the scum in front of us, then find his partners. Ya? | ||
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I can see his push for CR lynch as coming from a townie OR mafia for sure. I don't think CR is the easy target at all though, thread sentiment is heavily in favor of not lynching him. What makes you think CR is an easy target? Because he claimed third party? Even if you assume that is true, you have to account for the fact that most of the vocal players have stated that they either believe the claim or just don't want to lynch him. So going against the thread for what purpose? To appear contributory? At what cost? | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:13 Promethelax wrote: "wah wah no one posted" is meaningless. It will always be meaningless. DP posted "kush is town" just after kush posted his first post asking why VTs are masons. That was my immediate thought on reading Kush's post and it gives me good vibes for the both of them. Now that we have that out of the talk to me about Vayne. His attacks on CR are scummy, he has not considered the actual possibilities, has not understood Cr's claimed role and still wants to lynch him for it. That shows scum motivation. Agree? y/n? I don't get how not understanding the role shows scum motivation. He could just not understand the role, as either alignment. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:16 Promethelax wrote: At no cost. He gets to push a lynch target while avoiding commenting and committing on other players, since the thread is against the lynch on CR Vayne gets to do the same thing the next day. What is the town motivation for misrepresenting the claimed role repeatedly? Is Vayne bad enough to just not get how the role works? I guess you'll be right if Vayne comes back and "does the same thing next day". If Vayne has nothing to contribute about other players then yes, I can agree that he's scummy. Otherwise everything I've seen from him kinda looks like paranoid townie to me, and I'm more interested in lynching someone actively scummy like Hapahauli. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote: prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter. Like, he appears to know how the role works. Yet clearly he doesn't. Like - would mafia let their mafia partner do this?!? I have my doubts. Still don't wanna lynch. Talk to me about Kush instead. What specifically makes you read Kush town? | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:21 Promethelax wrote: I believe that CR is 3p. I'm not sure that I believe he is defender. If I am not confidant in anyone being scum he would not be a bad lynch. A bit like a d1 lurker lynch/self aware miller lynch. It isn't terrible but it isn't the best option. ^ my thoughts. Like, I wouldn't be opposed strongly to a CR lynch as he's been pretty much absent in our QT. We had a little back and forth last night about MM1 but from him it was just a couple of one-liners (MM1 and I are friend irl, etc etc) and then he went to bed or whatever. But yeah, I think we have a good line scum in this game so I'd like to try and lynch scum rather than third party. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote: If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain. VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player. Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game" What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:28 Promethelax wrote: Yes he is clearly trying to win with his survivor role and is asking scum to not kill him so that he can win in endgame. What is your point? Do you still not understand his role? He is saying he won't save ANYONE. I read that as "I'm not saving anyone TODAY" but honestly I can see it that way too. | ||
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#notasstrongasyouledmetobelieve | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:30 yamato77 wrote: So VE, you think we should lynch Hapa OR DP. Which one and why, in your opinion? Hapa, and why is strewn all over my filter bish. Open it and be amazed. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:30 Grackaroni wrote: it's what DP said. Kush wouldn't think so far ahead to make that post as mafia. It requires no thought - literally no thought at all - to say "Oy I'm a VT wtf is this QT" as mafia. There's no fore-thought necessary. Anyway, I don't care because I'd rather lynch Hapa. I'm just saying townreading Kush for that is ludicrous. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:31 Promethelax wrote: I said I found him townie and that I was uninterested in lynching him today. Exactly as strong as I lead you to believe. I know, I know...I just wish there was a reason for it. "gutread" sounds so dirty coming from you | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:33 yamato77 wrote: Seems like OMGUS to me, VE. Ick. Get with the program Yamato, it's mafia-oriented thinking being suspicious of VE. How many games with me in them have you played?! | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:48 yamato77 wrote: The case on geript wasn't supposed to be good, VE. Yeah that's SUPER townie yamato. Get outta here. Fine don't vote for him. I don't need your vote to lynch scum today (I hope.) | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:55 yamato77 wrote: Town VE wouldn't be this confident in an early D1 scum read : / Obviously you're mistaken. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:57 yamato77 wrote: VE, y u gotta be mafia. /ignore | ||
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ONWARD! TO HAPAHAULI LYNCH AND TOWN VICTORY!!!! | ||
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On September 25 2014 02:04 kushm4sta wrote: i was just thinking, for a mechanic like these 2 person groups, it's obvious people are going to share their groups, therefore it should given by the host and put in the OP for convenience sake. Don't worry your scumbros will tell you who is partnered with who. | ||
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On September 25 2014 02:05 yamato77 wrote: I'll let Hapa come back and address your case. MM1 throwing weak suspicion Hapa's way is also deplorable. Basically I hate all of you calling Hapa scum for bad reasons. My reasons are good. DP knows. He'll tell you. He already has. Shut up yamato. | ||
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On September 24 2014 18:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not joking around either. There was no point to the post you made referencing "townie points", which means that you never found anything suspicious about geript. Your whole "case" on him is just listing out his posts and making generic statements about them, which I could literally do about anyone in the thread as either alignment and I know geript can too, and I have a sneaking suspicion that you know that too. So don't tell ME to explain myself Hapa. YOU explain YOURSELF. WHY were there no townie points to be had? Why did you say there was something specific about geript's posts that you noticed which you never really mention? Unless you're talking about the whole "disjointed from the thread" thing which I don't even see and looks completely made up. On September 24 2014 18:58 VisceraEyes wrote: I just wanted your townpoints. Now you gotta die because I know you as scum and you will ride this out to the end. Add town you are reasonable, but you are thrusting word like"incomprehensible" and"bullshit" out there about my perfectly legitimate reads. You are clearly not reasonable this game. On September 24 2014 19:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Like Hapa is just flailing. Townhunting is my PREFERRED method of eliminating scum D1. This is known. On September 24 2014 19:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll tell you what is incomprehensible...how many times someone can say incomprehensible and disingenuous. You know I hear that repeating one's self is a sign of nervousness and anxiety? Why so stressed Hapa? All of this constitutes my reasoning for still voting and being so certain that Hapahauli is mafia. His responses to me were laughable, he literally just calls everything incomprehensible in spite of DP clearly being able to comprehense it. He's completely wrong about my meta in an attempt to make me look scummy when I'm one of the towniest motherfuckers in the thread. Anyone who says my case on Hapahauli is bad is wrong and needs to read again. Hapa is mafia. | ||
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On September 25 2014 02:51 Damdred wrote: I'm not sure some of it is a bit nit picky, not sure. Hapa watched by game I think so should know how you played their. Hapa going back and forth on geript is worrying but reads change. And I'd like hap to respond to all of this, currently I don't think I would lynch right now. GAH! *oldmanfist* | ||
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But that's MUCH better Hapa. Much. ##Unvote Like your posts yesterday calling me mafia didn't say anything like that. Yamato's posts on the matter had no detail and because I disagree that my townplay lacks confidence I took it as him just seeing something that isn't there. But you're right, my play HAS changed that much I guess. Anyway I'm town, and I'm willing to not lynch you today based on that case. It's far more put together and detailed than I was expecting given you responses last night. | ||
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Fuck Hapa, couldn't you have just been scum? | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:13 Promethelax wrote: I find myself suspicious of my partner. Yamato hasn't done anything really in qt. I've been using it more than I thought I would since I wanted to make sure we read each other as town since, if we are both town, we are the strongest town-town pairing. In qt and in thread Yam has posted little one liners and argued with DP. That is it. He said he would talk to me about his reads since he thinks I am town but he simply hasn't. The last thing he said was that VA is someone he ignores. I'm not terribly interested in lynching Yamato today but it is something I would like to hear opinions on. I see people giving him a town read but I don't see why. I think I want to lynch my QT mate Chairman Ray. Like - I was giving him a pass because claim, but I've been like trying to exchange thoughts and ideas in our QT and there's just no reciprocation whatsoever. He's not playing the game in the QT, and he's not playing the game in the thread. He's not trying to with the game with town, frankly he's not trying to win the game as any alignment. I don't think he's playing like a third-party who turns into a town. So I want to lynch him because that's the role he's claimed. Any questions? ##Vote: Chairman Ray | ||
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On September 26 2014 04:59 Promethelax wrote: ##Vote: VE Not only am I trusting Hapa on this (which I am) VE totally abandoned the thread with a shit vote. I questioned him on it and he did nothing at all to justify it. I doubt he had even read the thread. This is false. I read the thread, but I'm getting pissed about CR. He's literally not doing anything in the thread OR the QT. I was suspicious of him when he made the claim and now I'm REALLY suspicious. It's not a shit vote, maybe you can tell me why CR is town/3p instead of mafia? Like I have a better read on CR than anyone because I'm sharing a QT with him. And I'm saying I think he's mafia instead of 3p. | ||
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Whatever, do what you want. I'm just saying this is a mistake because I'm town and you're all mafia-siding. | ||
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No it's not. My reasoning is explicit. | ||
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e: Like the only reason I was even caught was on outdated meta that everyone just happened to believe. Get outta here. | ||
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On September 30 2014 09:13 Koshi wrote: QTs = self confirmed townie mason 5/6 = less paranoia. Possibility to lynch into sketchy group. So much easier. Cop and copping into sketchy groups. Werewolf aka insanity wolf aka freewin lottery wolf. Veteran Vigi, day 2 Scum can only win when severely outplaying town while not hitting lottery wolf and hitting the cop. And pray the 3p doesnt kill them when he goes for the joint scumwin. Cuz that would be hilarious. PRETTY SURE we've already established the the setup was townfavored Koshi. Just sayin. | ||
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