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Yamato's game isn't filling fast. If this game starts first I'm /in and ill /out his until completion. | ||
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On September 23 2014 05:16 geript wrote: That's okay. We'll need someone to lynch for not fitting to their town meta. I haven't played in ~9 months. I'll do my best to not fit my town meta to make you happy. | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:06 geript wrote: Well your town meta is that you're awful and can never read me right. So long as you don't fit that I'm happy. Have I ever read you wrong? | ||
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On September 23 2014 07:23 geript wrote: Arguing with me is in your scum meta. I like you Prome but if you keep up on this track I will fuck the lynch out of you. Have you ever played with me as scum? | ||
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On September 23 2014 08:00 WaveofShadow wrote: The very first game we all played in together actually. You were lynched D1. Think it was LX. Geript and I had a shit fight. I forgot that game happened. But yeah, that did happen. | ||
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On September 24 2014 11:42 geript wrote: Because I'm awesome? Also, why did VE get a QT? This sits wrong with me. I know others mentioned it as well but...well...fuck it. I don't like this very much. Geript isn't an idiot and the mechanics of this game were pretty damn clear as far as I can tell. On September 24 2014 13:06 VayneAuthority wrote: its the best play at the moment, if some one can make a compelling case ill consider it but when day 1 is usually hit or miss ill take a 3rd party kill that is CLAIMING IN THREAD that he is going to play anti-town death any day. Vayne, as far as I remember, understands roles better than most. He is totally missing the point of CR's claim and (intentionally?) misunderstanding the claim. Bringing up the possibility that CR is an anti town 3p claiming to be the survivor is totally valid but that is not what VA is doing, instead he is casting the claim in a bad light while believing it without question. Those two thoughts do not jive well for me and I would happily lynch him off of this cognitive dissonance On September 24 2014 13:35 DarthPunk wrote: So kush is town. I agree with this and the reasons behind it. On September 24 2014 14:25 Hapahauli wrote: He is much more apathetic and willing to conform to what people want to hear as mafia. Also, reading Kush as town for being himself is nonsense. Naw reading him as town for his "since when are VTs masons" comment is legit. It reflects the way kush thinks (or doesn't) during games. He wouldn't read the OP and be surprised by having a partner as town. As scum he wouldn't mention it because he'd assume it was a scum power. On September 24 2014 15:26 DarthPunk wrote: So if we lynch mafia we should lynch their partner immediately afterwards. Not necessarily. We should treat his parter as having a red check on him when we know a framer may exist. The game suggests that the partner is scum but we should only lynch him if he seems scummy. Blind lynching is stupid. Statistically if we flip one scum out of a partnership and all other partnerships still have at least one member remaining it is only a 1/2 chance that his partner is scum. On September 24 2014 15:51 geript wrote: Yah but of the vets other than VE, I think you're the most likely to flip mafia imo. So lynching an AFK actually gives us better information on who to shoot. If Hapa is a vet I'm a vet and I hadn't posted at all at this point in the thread. I have conflicting feelings about this because on one hand a scum player should be looking towards me as an easy lynch (especially geript who said earlier that he was sure I'd be mostly afk). Because of that I feel somewhat townie on geript because pushing a lynch on me would be easy and he respects my town play so getting rid of me would be a clear benefit in his scum mind. On the other hand why would town forget about a player who could be scum. I think I'd take geript as town at this point but there are a few things that give me the heebie jeebies in his posts. Overall: townish: geript, DP, Yamato, Kush, oats scum or 3p(I think there is a good chance that CR is 3p but not defender): CR Scummy: abuse/damdred/mm1 (all of them for just being so totally non-entities in the thread that I remember no content from them. Vayne (I don't like his misguided focus on the 3p, it feels like a traditional scum attack on an easy target with poor logic) People I keep going back and forth on: hapa, VE, Grack. | ||
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On September 24 2014 23:50 yamato77 wrote: Only bads are giving kush a free pass I still think he looks townie for his off hand comment early on. A free pass I would not give him but I have no interest in lynching him d1. He is a decent d1 town read. | ||
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Your tonality has been bugging me because it feels forced but I've had that feeling with your tone before (LoL  YP for example) when you were town so I'm trying not to let it bother me. You also said MM1 made a case on Kush which you gave him (MM1) town points for but, unless I missed something, he never made such a case. Besides that though you've said some things that make sense and follow a logical town thought process. Your misturst of CR for instance has worked for me and your constant informing the thread as to his qt behaviour. I'm not too interested in talking to you about you though. Instead I'm interested in whether you agree with my read of Vayne and why or why not. | ||
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On September 25 2014 00:59 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not reading Kush town. Anyone who is is probably playing with too much information. OHAI PROME, DIDN'T SEE YOU STANDING THERE GOSH WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT KUSH FELLOW EH?!?! I think he looks townie from his first posts. I think DP looks townie for having the same reaction I had. I think anyone not reading kush as town is missing the obvious. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Also can I say how disappointed I am that there weren't like 100 new posts when I woke up? wtf is wrong with this thread? Everyone should vote for Hapa. DP, not voting for Hapa because "Oh he could be an asset" is asinine, what if this was a town full of people like that? In fact, looking around, I'd say this IS a town full of people like that, with a COUPLE of exceptions that I won't even name. Let's just kill the scum in front of us, then find his partners. Ya? This is a totally meaningless post VE. Sthap. Instead talk to me about kush and Vayne. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:07 VisceraEyes wrote: And Prome don't discredit my push for my lynch target as meaningless. That's your free one. Next one comes with consequences. "wah wah no one posted" is meaningless. It will always be meaningless. DP posted "kush is town" just after kush posted his first post asking why VTs are masons. That was my immediate thought on reading Kush's post and it gives me good vibes for the both of them. Now that we have that out of the talk to me about Vayne. His attacks on CR are scummy, he has not considered the actual possibilities, has not understood Cr's claimed role and still wants to lynch him for it. That shows scum motivation. Agree? y/n? | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I don't get how not understanding the role shows scum motivation. He could just not understand the role, as either alignment. I guess I'm giving town Vayne credit for not being an idiot. If he were to make a push he would want to be right and to lynch anti-town. His push though is not doing that. He has continued the push even after mod clarification of role which suggests to me that he is trying to push a consistent target not to find scum/anti-town. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote: prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter. And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch? Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:19 Damdred wrote: So how would you feel about other people willing to lynch into Cr today pro? I believe that CR is 3p. I'm not sure that I believe he is defender. If I am not confidant in anyone being scum he would not be a bad lynch. A bit like a d1 lurker lynch/self aware miller lynch. It isn't terrible but it isn't the best option. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote: the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless. If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm. If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain. VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:22 yamato77 wrote: This prom is forceful. Interesting. This Yamato has not commented on my reads. | ||
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Yes he is clearly trying to win with his survivor role and is asking scum to not kill him so that he can win in endgame. What is your point? Do you still not understand his role? He is saying he won't save ANYONE. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game" What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post. gutread. | ||
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I said I found him townie and that I was uninterested in lynching him today. Exactly as strong as I lead you to believe. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:32 VayneAuthority wrote: That's the best case scenario. I dont work with best case scenarios he can also not even be defender 3rd party (33% chance he roles this as 3rd party, 66% chance he roled something much more dangerous) could be mafia fake claiming so yea id rather not risk it. okay so I struck out the one that is against his own win-con. You haven't brought up the second point at all throughout this game. I brought that up. You not bringing that up is part of what makes you scummy. Third point is dumb as dick. There is confirmed 1 3p in this game. No more, no less. Fake claiming that as mafia is a HUGE risk. Possible but awful; if we ever flip another 3p we can kill CR. If we kill two mafia and have no other options we can lynch CR. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:36 Grackaroni wrote: Prom what's your thoughts for Damdred since you made your list. Would take Dam as town. He was unhappy I hadn't noticed him which is good. Scum generally don't want people to pay attention to them and his post complaining that I hadn't noticed him is quite townie. | ||
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On September 25 2014 01:39 Grackaroni wrote: I think it's pretty ballsy of him to go after DP So you think DP is town? | ||
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On September 25 2014 04:08 abuse wrote: 1. is a fair point but I am not good with collecting my thoughts well on such huge information loads, so I just go with how I can manage. and I do not agree with 2. I am pretty clear with who I find suspicious and who I find legit. me and hapa or oats and damdred? Would you say that the chances are high that 3 mafia are among these 4? I know I'm not scum and hapa does not seem like scum either. Both Oats and Damdred have not said anything so far that would strike as anti town or scummy. Why are you sure that there is no scum between DP and Vayne? Does vayne's play so far seem legit and not worth looking into? I'm having a hard time understanding this.. Can people who have played with abuse before tell me if he is usually this wishy washy? This entire post is just an attempt to push the lynch away from himself and onto anywhere else it could stick without actually scum hunting or attempting to find the correct target. DP and Vayne have been been garnering attention up to this point but abuse doesn't say that he thinks either one is scum. Instead he wants geript to call them scum and stop calling him/hapa scum. If I had to pick a single post to lynch someone over I would call this the most lynch worthy post thus far in the game. On September 25 2014 11:23 geript wrote: @Hapa/Yam/VE/Prom What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue. I don't like damdred's play. It is pretty terrible and mostly whiny but he did a thing earlier which makes me think he is terrible and town and not mafia. He was whining about not being noticed which simpply isn't a thing a lurky scum player whines about. He was unhappy I wasn't paying attention to him despite him having done essentially nothing. He is a decently town read. I'd be curious to see what Oats has to say about damdred though. I've been gut reading oats as town but looking at the thread I can't figure out why which is bothersome. I'd like more from him. | ||
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In qt and in thread Yam has posted little one liners and argued with DP. That is it. He said he would talk to me about his reads since he thinks I am town but he simply hasn't. The last thing he said was that VA is someone he ignores. I'm not terribly interested in lynching Yamato today but it is something I would like to hear opinions on. I see people giving him a town read but I don't see why. | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:20 Grackaroni wrote: Prom you want to weigh in at all on VE? I think he's probably the most realistic lynch at this point. I'm still having mixed feelings on him and he wouldn't be my lynch priority but for the sake of consolidation and sheeping my town reads I'll probably end up with a vote there. | ||
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Who is your best scum read and why? gogogo. | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote: I think I want to lynch my QT mate Chairman Ray. Like - I was giving him a pass because claim, but I've been like trying to exchange thoughts and ideas in our QT and there's just no reciprocation whatsoever. He's not playing the game in the QT, and he's not playing the game in the thread. He's not trying to with the game with town, frankly he's not trying to win the game as any alignment. I don't think he's playing like a third-party who turns into a town. So I want to lynch him because that's the role he's claimed. Any questions? ##Vote: Chairman Ray I have a question. Why haven't you been reading the thread or thinking about this game? There is only one way to deal with CR's claim DP and Oats discussed that and CR agreed. We let CR use his defender power (if he has it, which I doubt) n1 which will turn him into town and save a townie from death. If he does not do this we lynch him d2. That has been settled. Do you seriously have no scum reads? | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:28 MysteryMeat1 wrote: ##Unvote: ##Vote:Abuse willing to switch my vote, but i think abuse is a pretty solid lynch today. I mentioned this in QT, but i didn't like abuse's early townread on Damdred/oats, i felt that it was more of an attempt to gain town cred in the even of a green flip. Is that your only reason for lynching abuse? Is that the scummiest thing in the thread? | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Yes, yamato is town and mafia-siding this game. It's a sad day. wat? | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:35 geript wrote: This is the only type of thing I really have to fault when comparing the two. He earlyish into D1 (started on p6 and he posted a series of these at p11) that he goes through a bit methodically about reading people. He hasn't really done this at all. He seems really detached in general in comparison. There's a minor townie point for him and his gum comment on me as that type of attitude pervades his newbie filter, but the rest of what he posted seems pretty different actually. I happen to agree. His tone is totally different from that newbie game. I don't think I can call that alignment indicative though. Going from a newbie into a real game is hard. Even more so with this many strong players/personalities. I'm not sure how a newbie would do with it and if we can take seriously the change in his behaviour. It isn't a point in his favour however. I'd like to hear from hapa why he thinks Abuse seems townie since he should have the best insight. | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:58 Damdred wrote: Maybe i'm over complicating things. But aren't you town reading or at least town leaning oats now for the same reason you scum read him earlier? MM1 please answer this. Also please tell us your reasoning that you say you have posted before about hapa. I don't care if you've already said it, I want to hear it again. | ||
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Not only am I trusting Hapa on this (which I am) VE totally abandoned the thread with a shit vote. I questioned him on it and he did nothing at all to justify it. I doubt he had even read the thread. | ||
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On September 26 2014 04:42 yamato77 wrote: You left the QT when I was playing for hours after. Not my fault we didn't interact. I'm not just going to dump posts in there for no reason. Prom plz Come to qt. I have some things to ask you. | ||
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On September 26 2014 04:43 geript wrote: @Prome we have a little over 2 hours to get a lynch. Who do you want? CR is the safe no one will really fight it lynch. Abuse is an ok lurker lynch, Vayne is too maybe. Kush I could lynch but I doubt the support's there. Damdred is maybe an ok lynch but I think it's too likely that I'm reading him wrong. VE has sorta faded out. Kinda reminds me of when he was mafia in gmarsh's game. The tone thing and reversing Hapa's argument on himself feels a bit bad and there's Hapa's arguments too. Hapa I think was too active to lynch today; I think in the long run lynching abuse makes more sense there. Plus he's been all over the place for me. I still don't see how he ever thought I was mafia and him returning to that read made me feel even more odd about him. DP I think is town but I don't think he's been terribly useful. Kinda in the same boat as Yam. I think Grack's town. I want to lynch VE. Next day I'd like to look at both abuse and VA both still look scummy to me but I don't have the support to force their lynches today and, honestly, I'm more interested in seeing a VE flip. More people said things about him and he is therefore a more useful flip for town. Who do you want to lynch geript? | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:11 Hapahauli wrote: Yeah I read that game too. But making a meta tell of a person based on 1 game is... not good. I brought up a point on abuse being scummy that wasn't to do with meta (because I agree, you can't make a call here. Even more so because newbie.) Please address it. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:15 geript wrote: Honestly I'm really torn between Abuse and VE with a side of CR. Like I think there's almost no way CR is the martyr 3P right now. He's not at all playing like he's going to end with a "win with town" wincon; that's really telling for me. He also spend most of the day doing nothing and the other half of the day pretending he's in some lala world. I don't see him getting any better; i don't think his flip helps with VE, but I think we'll end up lynching him at some point so I'd rather clear him now before he kills a town. On Abuse, I mean half policy half acting differently half I don't trust Hapa. On VE, I don't hate parts of Hapa's case and I've listed my own reasons multiple times. It's just that my ass is itching and I think he'll probly flip town. I had a dream about the balance for this game. It suggested that the 3p has to be anti-town because 10-3 is essentially balanced to begin with. 10-3 with mason pairs is very town favoured, even more so since we know the alignments of the pairs. Since there is a 3p it has to be anti town to make up for the masoning of the players. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:17 Hapahauli wrote: You mean this? It seems like a pretty typical newbie post, no? Plus he's very consistently suspicious of Vayne in my conversations with him in the QT, so I think that post looks better to me. Perhaps unsatisfying to you guys, but w/e. I really don't want to get into the mindset of forcing myself to defend abuse, because my reasons for not wanting to lynch him are more along the lines of "how could everyone see VE's vote on CR and not want to lynch him with fire?" Yes I agree. I'm talking about d2 lynch at this point. I'm just curious since I assume you have more ideas than the rest of us on your partner who seems scummy to me. Interestingly once we lynch Ve and assuming he flips scum everyone's partner will be confirmed town to them. Which should be excellent; we'll have five mason pairs who are conf town to each other. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:18 abuse wrote: Sure. Ignore everything I say. VE it is. ## vote: VE Tell me what I'm ignoring so I can refrain from ignoring it. I agree with your vote but you clearly don't. What are your thoughts? | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:27 abuse wrote: Your whole case on me is based on that one post, and because I seem to be wishy washy and have not stated my thoughts on DP and Vayne. This is false, I have done so many times. Read the filter. My thoughts up until a few minutes ago, due to some QT interaction, were that vayne is definitely scum. Not so sure now, but I sure as hell am not going to let him keep playing like this if this continues after D1. I have been null on VE this entire time, because his gameplay is very peculiar, but I trust hapa's judgement in this case, and his vote on CR is silly beyond belief. I don't really have a problem with a lynch on VE. What makes you think I do not agree with my vote? The post I was quoting is why I doubt your belief in this vote. You don't seem to want to vote VE. You are very wishy washy, and your post that I was talking about is very scum oriented; between the rest of your play starting to pick up a bit and Hapa's word I am willing to let you go for a day. I'm interested in seeing you push your own lynches over the next cycle though. Whatever you believe about your play thus far you've been essentially a non-entity. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:35 geript wrote: I'm willing to switch over if we need a lynch. I might as well because I don't think I'm going to get you to switch prome which we would need to get everyone else there. I still think it's a mislynch. No clear reason why; especially since I'm pretty sure at least half the people on him are town. Call it feels idk, I just don't feel comfortable with it. ##unvote ##vote VisceraEyes Thanks buddy. We need a lynch. I don't think we can get one on anyone else, Even less so with VE's vote on CR and follow up vanishing act. VE simply has to die. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:44 geript wrote: So basically we need MM, DP, Oats, Kush, or Vayne to switch. Maybe CR doesn't vote and gets modkilled. That is exactly what we need and I have to go to work. Your job is to camp the thread and as soon as one of those guys posts make him vote VE. We need a lynch. DP has said he'd be back for EOD but just in case he isn't back get one of the other bastards to do it. I leave thread in your capable hands. Make sure we get a lynch. | ||
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On September 26 2014 07:20 Grackaroni wrote: Because nobody else was being considered for the lynch. Ve himself threw away his vote on CR and gave up. Are you DP? | ||
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On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote: Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community. If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you. | ||
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On September 26 2014 16:42 Chairman Ray wrote: I just sent in my action. You guys better not lose! Who can tell me why this proves that CR is not the defender? | ||
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On September 26 2014 19:24 Promethelax wrote: Who can tell me why this proves that CR is not the defender? Or...his role could be broken as shit. CR: who are you saving from the night kill? | ||
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Bonus points: we all have a confirmed town in abuse. The best kind of confirmed town. One scum doesn't want to have to waste a shot on because he hasn't actually contributed anything individually. Game theory says to lynch outside of CR. Tell me your scum reads people. Not your 3p reads. | ||
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On September 27 2014 15:26 geript wrote: I was going to let this play out a bit longer but I really don't think there's a point to honestly. Let's clear the air while we still can. @Prome would you like to claim 3P defender now? I'm actually pretty sure that you're 3P and not vet because of how you approached CR and VE. I thought about trying to let it play out differently and potentially let you take another hit or sacrifice yourself, but I'm pretty sure it's better for town to force you to claim. You ain't too bright there, eh bud? If I was 3p and shot by mafia last night I'd be dead. | ||
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Oats Yamato DP Kush People I have histories with who I have expressed town reads of, no one else makes sense because I really haven't been playing terribly well or done anything very interesting. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:32 geript wrote: Hmmm I was reading the "body block aspect" wrong then. I just want to be clear just in case because the sample role pms aren't exactly the best. Claiming vet? Claiming dick all. Claiming town aligned. If I am vet or if I was medic saved scum will have to take a guess if they want to hit me again to more night. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:34 geript wrote: I think it's worth considering the kills in regards of Hapa dying. VE being the vengful mafia makes the game pretty drastically different. Hapa was the obvious kill. He was super town and had just made the case that got VE lynched. Who the hell else would you kill? Me? I'd forced votes but done essentially nothing. DP? He looks terrible he chainsaw defended mafia and tried to start counter wagons at the last minute. Yamato? He didn't say anything all game. You? You looked good but not anything close to how Hapa looked. And that is assuming all those people are town, no one else would be worth the night kill over that group anyways. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:36 DarthPunk wrote: I agree with the general premise however. Although keep in mind VE knew he was dying and probably left instructions in the qt. Scum VE thinks I'm really good actually. I wouldn't be shocked if he wanted me dead. I tore his team a new asshole in carnival cruise and smashed the scum team when VE was town in PYP:LoL. I also was the only town player in the OMGus resistance mafia to get any part of the scum team right and I got 3/4 of them after VE fucked me hard as scum. He usually has it out for me when he is red and I'm green, | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:38 DarthPunk wrote: Huh|? How did I chainsaw defend VE? I admit to the counterwagon shit though. LOL. That was someone else trying to refute hapa's meta case was it? | ||
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I still think scum is one of the four I posted earlier. Probably not kush though. He thinks I'm trash tier. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:41 DarthPunk wrote: I mean. I didn't try. I DID refute it. The meta case was still incorrect, even if VE was scum after all. One game from a year ago is not refutation, stick to not using meta. You are excellent when you don't stay towards the dark side of mafia games. Much less impressive when you do. How likely is it that Vanye is 3p in your opinion? | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:44 geript wrote: @Prome do you agree that I should track DP tonight? Pick someone you think is scum and track him. If it is DP track DP. If it is me track me. Don't disclose to the thread in case there is a fucked up framer role. Everything else is the game is terribly broken and poorly defined so don't discount that possibility. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:46 DarthPunk wrote: A town game is a town game is a town game. And I don't need pointers from you Prome. :D At meta you do ;p | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:50 geript wrote: To be fair DP, I saw that CR said both his partners were mad that he claimed 3p. I don't think it terribly changes things in any regard. @Prome could you check my read on Abuse. Do you agree with it and the reasoning behind it? The general premise of the read is one I've used and support. It entails a weak scum player though and since I have no idea of abuse's scum capabilities I'd call him a town lean but not as confirmed as you seem to think he is. I think oats has a decent chance of being the last scum actually. DP: are you sure there can be only one of each role? This set-up seems poorly thought out and poorly defined. I can't find anywhere that it says only one is possible. | ||
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All other roles impossible. Unless there are two bonders. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:53 DarthPunk wrote: WOW I wish Kush's filter link was in the OP. Kinda useful. But that would require kush to not be an ass and sign up for games on alt accounts. Something he has been doing since before I left. Oats just hasn't done anything at all townie, his activity is shit which it usually isn't as town. He tried to call me out for town reading him early and kept trying to get me lynched which he isn't likely to do as town unless he just want Senpai to notice him. Oats is probably the first mafia player on this site to ever look up to me and last hasn't stopped since I coached his newbies forever ago. He likes to be buddies when we are town but tries to avoid me when he is scum. Plus he would want to shoot me as scum. | ||
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On September 27 2014 17:56 DarthPunk wrote: No. but anyone who has played mafia sort of has inherent ideas of what is balanced. And two werewolves would mean that town would HAVE to mislynch one of them or auto win. SO I think that possibility (two werewolves being possible) would not have occurred to someone fakeclaiming at the start of the game. Werewolf is susceptible to 3p kills, it isn't as outlandish as you are saying it is. Though it is really fucking retarded and Vanye usually understands what is and isn't retarded in terms of roles. | ||
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On September 27 2014 18:03 geript wrote: So where do I fall in order in the line of "newbies that looked up to you?" You weren't new when you decided that I was awesome. It was PYP:LoL and you'd been playing for a while. DP: who are your top scum reads? | ||
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On September 27 2014 18:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Activity arguments not relevant, I've been playing like this for a while. Promes argument falls apart when he is saying that I would avoid him as scum. Is making a case on him avoiding him? I don't think so. Also, as scum I'm super happy with town reads, why the funk would I argue against it? That's just bad scum play. Geript, why is prome necessarily defender rather than the other 2? Hey little donkey. You buddy me as town. You don't as scum. That is what I meant by avoid. I'm clearly town and not 3p (unless geript and i are in cahoots) stop wasting your time. Who do you think is scum? We'll deal with 3p after scum is dead. | ||
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Either 3p is poisoner or arsonist. Both are weaker than mafia. Poisoner cannot immodestly remove threats to himself and arsonist can only light once so he has to reach endgame with the right players soaked. Both are less powerful than mafia. Also I like killing mafia. On top of that last mafia may have a role, both strongman and vig are extremely potent. | ||
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On September 25 2014 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I don't really like VE, this game. Maybe his reads on me have changed since he found out my IRL identity, but i don't think he calls me town this early. My case on kush wasn't even serious when i posted it, and yet somehow i gained massive town points for it? On September 24 2014 11:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I actually dont like cr's play atm either. Hes roled mafia every game on tl, and complains everytime that he isnt town. I feel like he would be happier to play. Something to consider. These were MM1's first serious reads in game. Anyone know if he suffers from kush syndrome? On September 26 2014 07:11 Grackaroni wrote: CR you are really fucked if you aren't defender that saves tonight lol Correct. A little too correct. And he has been obsessing over 3p all day. Decent candidate for 3p. On September 24 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote: I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today. Ewwwwww On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote: Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community. This is abuse' last post. I think he is mad. He strikes me as townieish. Pretty involved but hasn't really done anything. Whines a lot. I don't think he'd be mad at CR claiming though. | ||
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Dude stop. Your job is to be totally absent from this game. I don't care how obvious the flip is, until the game is mathematically over your involvement should be as minimal as possible. | ||
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Damdred: I expect you to juggle chainsaws while doing the above. | ||
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On September 28 2014 08:35 GlowingBear wrote: Please keep hosting issues to address to in the post game or via PM. I kindly ask you to keep the thread discussion inside the game context. Thank you  please get hosts to host properly. | ||
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On September 28 2014 08:34 VayneAuthority wrote: grack - probably my 2nd or 3rd choice to be the last mafia, would lynch later not now though. mysterymeat - no. unless he is 3rd party...think hes just VT. why and why? | ||
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On September 28 2014 08:40 Grackaroni wrote: I think Vaynes trying to figure out who wouldn't concede Who do you think is mafia. What do you think of yourself and MM1? | ||
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On September 28 2014 08:40 Grackaroni wrote: I think Vaynes trying to figure out who wouldn't concede Does that mean you think Vayne is town? | ||
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On September 28 2014 11:15 VayneAuthority wrote: after thinking about it ##vote kushm4sta Do you...do you even know what cycle it is bro? | ||
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On September 29 2014 06:13 geript wrote: You're either pretty far away from the reality of this game or you're mafia trying to save face. You voted for VE. Good for you so did most everyone else. Prome's supporting Hapa's lynch was based on a townread on Hapa and not on what you said. I in no way want to setup a circle jerk. The only person of the 4 who I'm pretty sure is town is Prome. DP and Yam have done next to nothing today either. Like honestly, I'm really frustrated with the hosts cutting the day short and most everyone sitting on their hands today when we could and should be looking for the last mafia. I spent about an hour on irc with Yamato yesterday. I'm relatively sure he isn't scum. Assuming that 3p can win with town (which is what the OP says) I don't care about catching them. Assuming the host hasn't lied to us, which is an unfortunately unfounded assumption based on hosting thus far, this game is over. Dear 3p: you can win with town. All you have to do is try to kill scum. Use your murder on scummy people and we'll win together. Geript: please explain your town read on MM1. If you die I don't want to have to rely on your word. Grack: I cheerlead the VE lynch based on my town read of Hapa and his excellent VE case. Your behaviour had nothing to do with it. DP: why do you think grack is town? Why do you think MM1 is town? Why do you think oats is town? | ||
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So you are 3p? | ||
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I have no idea. I'm just being an ass because I'm mad about the hosting thus far. | ||
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On September 29 2014 07:51 geript wrote: I did. I'm just waiting for the day post. I've done this before. I was taking a nap and slept through my alarm. Thankfully my awesome cohosts did everything for me after 15-30 minutes. If this was the only incident in this game I wouldn't even comment. It is just that with everything put together this is just insulting. Quick sound off: who is here? | ||
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On September 29 2014 07:53 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Did oats forget to hand in Night actions again? :| So what was your result? | ||
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If it was a shotgunner or vig he/she thought kush was scum as well. Ether way there is anti scum KP. Don't out yourself dear kush killer unless you are up for lynch and cannot save yourself otherwise. If someone else claims the kush kill please counter claim fully. | ||
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On September 29 2014 08:06 Grackaroni wrote: Probably Damdreds shot? Why? | ||
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On September 29 2014 08:19 MysteryMeat1 wrote: yo oats, you get much sleep last night? Who did he visit? | ||
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On September 29 2014 09:04 DarthPunk wrote: Game super town favored by the way. | ||
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On September 29 2014 10:15 Alakaslam wrote: + Show Spoiler + [b ## Vote 24 hour day[/b? Plz ya Btw sorry for obtuse but I just throw my 2¢ out because I like that votecount yo ... | ||
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On September 29 2014 06:39 Promethelax wrote: hosts please clarify: can town share a win with poisoner/arsonist? | ||
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On September 29 2014 12:22 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Prome you vet? please claim now Yop.mlitterslly onlympossibilitty. Sorry Really drunk entire bottle of whiskey because ,y friend/co worker just got broken up with. I am vet. Yamato isn't scum. He and I had an irc for hours. He seems legit. Oats shotgun er. Me vet. VA is werewolf. DP if you promise to never kill him and we promise to never,yech him game is mathematically over. Scum should concede now. M,1 sorry I asked who oats visited as soon as I posted I realized it was a bait. My B. Abuse might still be shot gunner? SCUM CONCEDE!?!? Game is mathematically over. Also one liter of whiskey is too many, I'm not 18 any more. | ||
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On September 29 2014 12:44 The_Templar wrote: Current Vote Count Oatsmaster (3): yamato77 (1): Grackaroni Damdred (1): Oatsmaster Not Voting (4): abuse, MysteryMeat1, Damdred, DarthPunk 24 hour day (3): Currently, no one is set to be lynched. With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, Sep 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Slam isn't playing this game. I'm drunk as a punk skunk becoming a monk and I still know more than you. | ||
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On September 29 2014 19:03 DarthPunk wrote: Survive to the end. When the game ends I win if I survive. If it was anything else it would be: You win when you have eliminated all other players. But it's not. It is survive to the end. So stfu with your fear mongering idiot. I like arguing with you on principal (since very view people are actuality worthy to argue with) but you have been more right than all of town besides hapa. This town bores me. Complain about hosting with me? | ||
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On September 29 2014 20:51 HaruRH wrote: 3P wins when the game ends and he survives. He can win with both town and mafia. Learn to balance? | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:24 yamato77 wrote: it was abuse? I blame Hapa Me too. He was my stormergets scum read. I let him go because of hapa. | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:24 Oatsmaster wrote: come on Prome, it was just imbalanced. It cant be as bad as 1. Flipping the wrong person, 2. PMing the wrong info, I have played ~25 games on tl, ~25 on EM AND ~5 on MS and one on omgus. This was the most poorly hosted. | ||
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On September 29 2014 23:18 GlowingBear wrote: I'm sorry, but most of the game was figured out because CR fake claimed 3rd party. And about bad hosting, if Prome is angry because of what happened day2, ok. If he is angry for anything else, I don't get it. You have no idea how balance works. Please avoid hosting themed games in the future (that goes for all three of you). What in hell possessed you all to make the hosting decisions you made? They are genuinely incomprehensible to me as a player and host. | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:32 DarthPunk wrote: I was bored and barely read the thread. Third party sucks balls. I didn't read any of this game after d1. Your existence made this game more fun. Nothing wrong with 3p, a 3p that wind when either town or mafia is eliminated and has KP is stupid easy though. | ||
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The thing you can take away from this, I think, is to check the OP of approved games and make sure that the roles are clear there. A big part of the issue with this set up was the 3p enforcing swing in a set up that, due to pairings, was already incredibly swingy. Town had too many free cop checks from deaths that scum could not avoid. As soon as one scum was dead it became easy to either catch another scum for free or confirm every partner of a dead townie as mod confirmed not scum. | ||
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