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DarthPunk
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On September 27 2014 18:05 geript wrote: I have a question DP. Did Vayne claim before or after CR did? Let me check. He claimed at: 09-23-2014 11:55 PM ET (US) I can;t compare them because they are in two different time formats for me. ET and AEDT | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 27 2014 17:30 Promethelax wrote: People who would shoot me in this game: Oats Yamato DP Kush People I have histories with who I have expressed town reads of, no one else makes sense because I really haven't been playing terribly well or done anything very interesting. There's no way I shoot you in an conceivable universe. No upside at all. | ||
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DarthPunk
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geript
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You covered Oats reasonably, but early on I had a small scumread on him. Plus his end of day looks significantly worse post flips. Plus he's a player who 100% would be pissed if his partner pulled shit like CR did. I think I explained DP/Yam already. Mostly lack of being super town, being right with no clear thought process, being wrong. Stuff. Kush just because I can't read him. You and DP did have townreads on him though. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Promes argument falls apart when he is saying that I would avoid him as scum. Is making a case on him avoiding him? I don't think so. Also, as scum I'm super happy with town reads, why the funk would I argue against it? That's just bad scum play. Geript, why is prome necessarily defender rather than the other 2? | ||
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geript
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Oatsmaster
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geript
10024 Posts
On September 27 2014 18:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Activity arguments not relevant, I've been playing like this for a while. Promes argument falls apart when he is saying that I would avoid him as scum. Is making a case on him avoiding him? I don't think so. Also, as scum I'm super happy with town reads, why the funk would I argue against it? That's just bad scum play. Geript, why is prome necessarily defender rather than the other 2? I thought defender could only die if he's lynched or martyrs. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On September 27 2014 18:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Activity arguments not relevant, I've been playing like this for a while. Promes argument falls apart when he is saying that I would avoid him as scum. Is making a case on him avoiding him? I don't think so. Also, as scum I'm super happy with town reads, why the funk would I argue against it? That's just bad scum play. Geript, why is prome necessarily defender rather than the other 2? Hey little donkey. You buddy me as town. You don't as scum. That is what I meant by avoid. I'm clearly town and not 3p (unless geript and i are in cahoots) stop wasting your time. Who do you think is scum? We'll deal with 3p after scum is dead. | ||
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geript
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
My read on geript didn't progress past the initial statements. And geript wasn't the top scum read for the long part of d1. Hapa said his case wasn't that good anyway. I thought ve and hapa were both townish bordering on null. I don't comment on reads like that. It's pointless. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 27 2014 18:23 Promethelax wrote: Hey little donkey. You buddy me as town. You don't as scum. That is what I meant by avoid. I'm clearly town and not 3p (unless geript and i are in cahoots) stop wasting your time. Who do you think is scum? We'll deal with 3p after scum is dead. I don't buddy you when you say dumb stuff. Scum is between yamato, damdred, dp. I wanna discuss how dp dealt with the claim by vayne and his story behind it. What do you think about it prome? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On September 27 2014 18:22 geript wrote: I thought defender could only die if he's lynched or martyrs. Nah. I'm assuming no defender is here or he would've claimed imo. So tthe 3p has the same kp as scum. They are both equally dangerous. Prome why are you downplaying the danger? | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Either 3p is poisoner or arsonist. Both are weaker than mafia. Poisoner cannot immodestly remove threats to himself and arsonist can only light once so he has to reach endgame with the right players soaked. Both are less powerful than mafia. Also I like killing mafia. On top of that last mafia may have a role, both strongman and vig are extremely potent. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
This post here is the LAST time he actually develops the read on me. And how does he do it? By rehashing something he posted in his qt. Seems like he is really invested in his scum read or trying to convince others to lynch him. On September 25 2014 08:41 Damdred wrote: Just got to a comp i'll go on and paste my notes that i put up this morning to oats (about dp) Yea, at the start he just skims the thread and votes with what could be seen as something that could become popular in the thread since CR basically said he would help mafia. DP when confronted instantly voted off. When it comes to hapa he gave himself an out of his scum read on him by saying it was basically outdated meta, its a decent scum tell to give yourself such an easy out at that point if hes played with him so much. And he misrepresents the meta and comes to geript with a chainsaw in hand basically. Even though hes so sure that hapa is scum, he refuses to vote on him or push his lynch today even though most of his filter IS HAPA IS SCUM. Its noncommital with the appearance of looking good. He said he would be willing to lynch a third party if another better lynch could not be obtained. If you look at the OP there is only 1 3p in this game. Which at this point if nobody has CC'd or claimed third party we can be safe to assume that CR is the only one. So he should be off the table, and lynching into the unknown with a chance to hit mafia is better than lynching a known. (wasteing a lynch is never good in my book) He isn't pushing anything but hapa is scum, and he'll let that ride till tomorrow so that he can try to get him lynched tomorrow (if hes not shitting towny rainbows). Hes throwing doubt on a few people and giving a little pressure on geript at this point which looks and feels more like show than anything. Added a few things in the (). What is the next thing he posts about his major read from day one? The person he spoke at length about wanting to question: On September 26 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote: I felt like I did explain why I was scum reading DP at the time decently well. I suppose i'm being prudent in how I look at our partnership currently and you should act the same way towards me until our alignments are known to each other. So I can understand the stance. At the time? So he doesn't scum read me anymore? Who the fuck knows. He has dropped his read on me with zero reasoning the read he used as an excuse to be unproductive prior to that. On September 26 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote: The case is not bad, Prom posts a few big posts that seem good at face value but their are several issues within each. Several issues within each. What issues? What is he talking about? No one knows because he doesn;t explain or extrapolate. Non committal and saying nothing. On September 26 2014 03:47 Damdred wrote: Sorry I missed this while looking. I'm really hesitant to say MM, but I think hes a decent lynch today for a few reasons (on my phone so can't quote but I can add those laters and if mm wants to address this hes welcome to) In his earlier filter, he talks about not liking hapa (who at the time I believe, thread sentiment was against) but had no real opinion on DP because he had never played with him before. On further inspection, MM still hasn't given a read on DP but did give one on hapa and after talking with hapa I learned that MM never played with him either. So why the double standard and still not having an opinion on someone who is prominent in the thread? (once thread sentiment turned in hapas favor MM felt a lot better about hapa and worse about VE which is a non-point i think) His postins about who he thinks is the best lynch is always in flux and is a bit strange. He said at one point that Oats was the better lynch out of myself and Oats. Once his partner started in on me he switched to me, then back to oats. While always staying voted on me. It just does not make sense and not a lot of time passes between "I do not know if i want to lynch oats or VE first today" to "Damdred is the best lynch today". Later on he says lynch oats, and he would rather have me alive and he liked that I hadn't town read my partner on basically nothing, but this was the same t hing that got him to switch to me in the first place last night. Later on the same reason he wants to move to oats and lynch oats, is the reason he gives him a pass for today? And then he jumps on abuse. MM just seems like he wants to kill anyone he can, or look like hes contributing to the thread. Its just hes pretty easy to lynch in every game I play with him and i'm hesitant in it now. Cool now his top scum read is the biggest nobody lurker in the game. What happened to DP being scum? Who the fuck knows. But I find it very disingenuous that such a huge part of his day one scum hunting can just disappear into nothingness. On September 26 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote: ##Vote VE I have to start going back to work now, but i'll be around the last hour hit and miss if we want to do a sudden change, I really do not want a no lynch some information is better than none. Out of nowhere He joins the VE wagon. ZERO explanation. Just hops on. LIke why? He didn;t even TRY to lynch his 'biggest scum read' MM or his previous obsession DP. Looks Like a bus. Smells like a bus. I come in and try some last minute shenanigans. On September 26 2014 06:46 Damdred wrote: I would switch to mm or useless dp OH LOOK HE SHEEPS HIS SCUM READ THAT HE DROPPED BUT NOW HAS AGAIN TO STOP THE VOTE ON VE WHO HE HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT. Like look at the EXACT progression from Damdred and his VE read and bathe in the scumminess. On September 26 2014 04:57 Damdred wrote: @Hapa VEs lack of being present at this point in the day is worrying, or at least sticking around. After the VE flip where would you go if we lynched him? And what do you think of MM? On September 26 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote: ##Vote VE I have to start going back to work now, but i'll be around the last hour hit and miss if we want to do a sudden change, I really do not want a no lynch some information is better than none. On September 26 2014 06:39 Damdred wrote: VE besides Cr who is mafia to you? On September 26 2014 06:46 Damdred wrote: I would switch to mm or useless dp Oh shit VE was lynched, better salvage my town cred mang On September 26 2014 07:22 Damdred wrote: I'm glad I stuck on him and I hope Cr is the defender. This is a great day for town. But wait. Why is he questioning the Cr defender claim. At the time everyone in the thread should have been pretty sure that he WAS the defender. Because the alternative was so fucking INCOMPREHENSIBLE. Off. On September 27 2014 08:16 Damdred wrote: ##vote CR at work atm, glad you did the smart thing geript. Oh look lost my other buddy. Give me town creds. And today, all Damdred has done is push Vayne and IGNORED THE TWO PEOPLE HE WANTED TO LYNCH INSTEAD OF VE. Damdred is scum /thread /game | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10847 Posts
On September 27 2014 18:38 Promethelax wrote: Damdred is super townie. I just read his filter. You should too. Either 3p is poisoner or arsonist. Both are weaker than mafia. Poisoner cannot immodestly remove threats to himself and arsonist can only light once so he has to reach endgame with the right players soaked. Both are less powerful than mafia. Also I like killing mafia. On top of that last mafia may have a role, both strongman and vig are extremely potent. He is not town. He is mafia. | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On September 25 2014 03:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I don't really like VE, this game. Maybe his reads on me have changed since he found out my IRL identity, but i don't think he calls me town this early. My case on kush wasn't even serious when i posted it, and yet somehow i gained massive town points for it? On September 24 2014 11:44 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I actually dont like cr's play atm either. Hes roled mafia every game on tl, and complains everytime that he isnt town. I feel like he would be happier to play. Something to consider. These were MM1's first serious reads in game. Anyone know if he suffers from kush syndrome? On September 26 2014 07:11 Grackaroni wrote: CR you are really fucked if you aren't defender that saves tonight lol Correct. A little too correct. And he has been obsessing over 3p all day. Decent candidate for 3p. On September 24 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote: I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today. Ewwwwww On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote: Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community. This is abuse' last post. I think he is mad. He strikes me as townieish. Pretty involved but hasn't really done anything. Whines a lot. I don't think he'd be mad at CR claiming though. | ||
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abuse
Latvia1926 Posts
Just to clarify the werewolf role. Does it work only once, or does it work permenantly? The description is not clear. Because if it works permenantly, and the 3P role at the moment is defender, then it makes that person virtually unkillable, and also makes him a confirmed town right up until the endgame if he claims as Vayne did, because werewolf's only weakness is lynches. This seems much too imbalanced and I do not see this role being available, if the 3P does not have KP. If Vayne's claim is real, then there is a 50% chance we will see someone poisoned on N2, if not then it is 100% chance that an arsonist is in the game. Either way this game is basically unwinnable by mafia at this point, since, worst case scenario, the last 3 people are 1 town(or 3P), 1 scum and 1 vayne, with vayne being confirmed town. If the town at the endgame is confirmed town by some means, then it guarantees us a win, considering we catch the 3P in time. | ||
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HaruRH
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Promethelax
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