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loafery
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 08:33 Fecalfeast wrote: Tell me again what that accomplishes, spy? Wait a minute, so let me get this straight. There are 9 roles. 2 mafia 1 vt and 6 good roles. 6 good roles claim 3 claim vt. We lynch the 3 vt = win. 8 good roles claim 1 vt. We get 2 pairs of good roles we lynch all 4 of them = win. Am I wrong in thinking this? Am I missing something? | ||
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 08:59 Superbia wrote: This is how the game is set up: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/?title=Matrix6 I see so there's ifinite possibilites. Forget claiming then. | ||
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loafery
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loafery
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and been playing live mafia also with friends so theres that too | ||
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loafery
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Dumbledore's Army = They mess up the bad guys moves at the risk of death and can alert the order of phoenix. Order of Phoenix = They fight the bad guys Aurors Office = (Aurors are the magical equivalent of detectives), they arrest anyone they find at night time and can spy too. Warning: the odds might be slightly against the death eaters but do not let this put you off! More on specific character's roles later! ---- The Roles Death Eaters (8) Voldemort - Can not be killed except by a Harry & Dumbledore combo, otherwise kills(1) and flees when outnumbered 3+ to 1. If all other death eaters are killed Voldemort flees swearing he will one day have his vengeance. Can not be imprisoned in Azkaban. Bellatrix Lestrange - Bellatrix's love for pain and suffering makes her go out and torture a fellow wizard once a night. The wizard does not die but is so deeply harmed he can no longer perform night actions. Lucius Malfoy - Lucius Malfoy is deeply in the Minister of Magic's web of knowing and as such has access to the Auror's Council. The counsel does not know of his true allegiance. Death eaters go out at night to kill. If they are intercepted before they reach their target they will fight whoever intercepted them. If the death eaters outnumber their opponents part of the group will break away to carry out the mission. Death eaters have a 50% chance of killing, a 15% chance of immobilizing and a 15% chance of running away. Order of the Phoenix (5) Dumbledore - Can not be killed except by Voldemort. Can not be imprisoned in Azkaban. Holds the Elder Wand. Sirius Black - Can not be imprisoned in Azkaban. Will have the chance to aid Harry Potter, if Harry Potter finds himself outnumbered. Can transform into a dog to avoid detection, but can not attack as a dog. Dog transformation lasts during the day, disabling sirius from voting, but making it impossible to find him for lynch. Kingsley - Kingsley is an Auror and as such is part of the Auror council. He's a good guy but can not reveal his allegiance with the order of the phoenix to the auror council in case it has been infiltrated by death eaters. Mr Weasley - Can create moogle artifacts with a 50% chance they will work. (inventor) Remus Lupin - Has a 25% chance of turning into a werewolf and not helping the order on that night unless he receives the wolfsbane potion. The Order of the Phoenix can protect(a person), guard (a location) or kill (death eaters) during the night. The Order of the Phoenix can not carry out a kill mission unless they know their target is a death eater. The Order of the Phoenix has a 25% chance of killing Death eaters, a 25% chance of immobilizing them and a 25% chance of escaping. The order of the Phoenix has a 5% chance of killing Aurors, a 20% chance of working together, a 25% chance of immobilizing them, and a 25% chance of escaping Dumbledore's Army (5) Harry Potter - Can not be killed unless by Voldemort and Dumbledore must already be dead for this to happen. If caught, will not go to azkaban, but the names of those who were with him will be known by the auror's office. Hermione Granger - When caught in battle, has a 25% chance of saving the whole group Ron Weasley - Thanks to his deluminator, Ron can turn off all the lights in a location, giving them a 50% chance aurors will not notice them and try to imprison them. The deluminator gives the group 25% more chances of escaping. Ginny Weasley - Has a 15% chance of successfully casting a bat curse when engaged in battle. Neville - Is immune to Bellatrix's cruciatus curse and instead has a 10% chance of killing her and a 20% chance of immobilizing her. Dumbledore's army has a 10% chance of killing death eaters, 20% chance of immobilizing them and a 20% chance of escaping them. If Ron is with the group odds of escaping are increased to 45% thanks to the deluminator. Dumbledore's army has a 25% chance of immobilizing the Aurors, and a 50% chance of escaping them. If Ron is with the group, they have a 75% chance of escaping. Aurors (8) Aurors get to spy on 2 people (role & location) per night. Aurors will take anybody that they find immobilized to Azkaban. Aurors can protect (a person), guard (a location) or arrest during the night. The aurors need to know the person's location in order to arrest them. Aurors have a 10% chance of killing, a 20% chance of working together with Order of the Phoenix or Dumbledore's Army and a 45% chance of immobilizing (anyone), a 10% chance of identifying whoever escapes them and a 10% chance of running away. ------ The way these odds(%) will work will be as simple as possible. A coin flip decides which team goes first. Add all those odds together e.g. 3 death eaters vs 2 aurors Death eaters have a 50% chance of killing, a 15% chance of immobilizing and a 15% chance of running away. Aurors have a 10% chance of killing, a 20% chance of working together with Order of the Phoenix or Dumbledore's Army and a 45% chance of immobilizing (anyone) and a 10% chance of identifying whoever escapes them. Assuming the death eaters win the coin flip: death eaters: 50*3 + 15*3 + 15*5 = 150 + 45 + 45 = 240 I put 300 into http://www.random.org/; if it's 1-150, the first move is a kill; if it's 151 - 195, the first move is an immobilization if it's 196 - 240, the first move is an escape. If the aurors didn't suffer any losses, I then add their odds together 10*2 + 45*2 + 10*2 = 20, 90, 20 if it's 1 - 20, the aurors make a kill; if it's 21 - 110, the aurors stun/immobilize if it's 111 - 130, they identify the attacker Groups only get one kill per night. If they've already killed, their odds of killing count towards stunning/immobilizing instead. When stunned you are unable to move until the next night. You will be most unlucky if a death eater or an auror crosses your path. The bigger team always attacks first, if the teams are of equal size it is decided by coin flip. Rule change: To make the rule mechanics more similar to the usual WW game, you can now target a specific person. You can choose which path you take, if you don't I'll just take you along the quickest path. ---- Check the map, Dumbledore's Army must end the night at Hogwarts, Order of the Phoenix must end the night at Grimmauld Place, Aurors must end the night in Ministry for Magic, Death Eaters must end the night in Malfoy Manner Malfoy & Kingsley can end at either Ministry for Magic or Malfoy Manner/Grimmauld Place respectively. This means that for every night action you need to send me which path you want to take there, and which path you want to take back. Red Lines can not be travelled on, Purple Line can only be travelled by the order of the phoenix. ----------- Mayor Each day a mayor will be chosen. The mayor and whoever is traveling with him will be immune to Auror intervention. Death eaters win when Order of Phoenix & Dumbledore's Army are dead. Everyone else wins when all death eaters are dead. Kill voldemort or Harry Potter = Epic End Game Scene. | ||
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loafery
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loafery
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what are we gonna do about this today, I'm apparently confirmed town we got 3 people here and I'm getting positive vibes from you two so I don't think you two guys are scum nothing really suspicious. | ||
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 11:55 Rad wrote: Wow, lots to see already. @Superbia and @Fecalfeast - why so quick to jump on loafery being town? @loafery - a game that elaborate and town just decided to mass role call? So sad  Couple questions for you:How often over the past year have you had games similar to that? Is it the kind of game you're used to or do you play more games with sane rules like this one? Do you think mafia will be incapable of giving you positive vibes? Is town capable of giving you negative vibes? You've reached the "not scum" conclusion for Superbia and Fecalfeast pretty quickly, why is that? Only the one. Most games were complicated having multiple power roles. I'm sure they're capable. This too. Haven't done anything suspicious and ff read me as town with good reasoning instead of chasing after me. | ||
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 13:58 abuse wrote: hi guys~ 1) calling loafery town for something like this is either stupid or scummy. 2) is more than extremely scummy. 3) don't; discuss other games in here please. 4) this game does not use silent nights, you not only are allowed to, but you HAVE to talk during nights. 5) loafery please stop pretending to be a total newbie, and if you are then address such unclarities with either the mods or your coach. do explain | ||
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loafery
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do explain | ||
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 14:37 abuse wrote: where on earth is the "good reasoning". Why is it wrong to chase you. How on earth can you trust them based something like that. Since when is "haven't done anything suspicious" a town tell. If anything it's a scum tell. "I'm sure they're capable" how the hell can you be sure of something like this at this point in the game. How can town be sure that someone else is town before N1 and after they have had no real conversation with them whatsoever. there are so many things wrong with this post I don't even know how to end this I first thought there was 5/6 blue roles. I thought it was easy game. ff showed me it wasn't so. I admit my mistake and ff retracts his suspicions. If I were scum why would I even think of getting an easy win. I would havent mentioned anything at all. You're coming off as very over reactive to my posts. It's all good but I have done nothing wrong. | ||
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 15:16 Fecalfeast wrote: also I don't like this association of me and superbia just because we touched pinkies kinky | ||
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loafery
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On October 07 2014 15:23 abuse wrote: I don't care what you did at that point. What I care is what you did afterwards. How the hell can you call yourself confirmed town for something like this. That is scummy beyond belief. Also all the things I mentioned in this post you quoted. You have not addressed any of the issues I point out. Please do so and do so well. Otherwise, no way in hell am I removing my vote from you. Right now it seems like you're using the excuse of a newbie to make everyone wear gloves while around you. You're signaling that you are definitely town based on a incredibly stupid reason which is in no way alignment indicative, you imply that people should not chase you or suspect you, you also trust 2 people in the game already, after no real interactions at all and you're trying to buddy them. All this makes absolutely no sense from a town mindset. It comes from a mindset of scum who wants to stay below radar and does not want people to read their posts and judge their posts. The goal of such a mindset, is "I want to get in as many towncircles as possible and stay below the radar" not "I want to find and lynch scum" I am not coming very overreactive. You slipped hard. And your defense so far was trash, and nonexisten. Really? would I be so blunt about it? Don't you think mafia would rather stay low and not post anything of worth to the discussion than being so open and starting discussion in any way possible. Your talking about very high tactics that would need a high skill cap to achieve for me to get into as many town circles. And I was on the radar from the start so I failed in going below the radar and am the center of attention. I think my reasons are legit in getting town reads from ff. He thought I gave valid reasons and realizing a scum mindset wouldn't act this way backed off. I think scum mindset there would pursue the matter no matter what because I did have dirt on my hands in proposing a mass claim and ff's actions to follow the post was very townesque to me. He had valid arguements against me to which I admit I was wrong and that was that. But the vibes I'm getting from you are...you are really trying hard to lynch me no matter what. I see you have your reasons for which I have answered, but I don't understand what more I can do to prove my innocence. Keep questioning more if you will. Anything I missed? | ||
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