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On September 19 2014 08:50 batsnacks wrote:


And you said I was the one who wasn't reading.

On September 19 2014 09:11 Fecalfeast wrote:


Nicest thing anyone has said about me all week

On September 19 2014 09:13 batsnacks wrote:


"no u"

^ summation of HF's post

On September 19 2014 10:30 Damdred wrote:
Batsnacks is most likely town, right now i'm giving him a 65% chance of being town. It would of been higher except when he self meta'd himself when he said



And this makes me more leery of him then I was during his arguments in the thread.

Mostly I have a meta read on bat currently that hangs in the balance, if you read Storm mafia 2 Bat is scum their. He purposefully was trying to shit up the thread and make people angry at them by calling them scum and making them look guilty. During the fight here I was thinking and reread some of storm 2 to compare some of the ways bats attacked both of them, they do not really look similar. Instead they look a lot closer to the latest cell when bats was just being an ass because he did not want to work with the people and was goading them into lynching him. Hes starting to slide into that portion of his game here. When hes scum he does not goad people like this he tries to get them angry and off the trail they were following but never in a way where he would end up being the target, so its a bit different from any of his scum play and a lot more like his town play.

In Neat and Tidy, Bats town reads people for no reason and with no explanation, he does this a good bit as scum but does not do it as town. So his answer to me doesn't really fall into his scum play that i've seen him do and he actually had a reason even if it was somewhat weak reason, it felt authentic and somewhat emotional to me.

Honestly this really looks more like town batsnacks, even his votes look more towny, as scum he really doesn't push or mention why he wants to vote for people he just finds the strongest wagon and slides on without saying anything. Hes not really doing it here even if he isn't scum hunting a lot.

Hes really playing against his normal scum game.

On September 19 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
0% likely actually

Not really understanding why I've been questioned on alignment or even ever voted on when i literally claimed my exact role in the first post i made

On September 19 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
Mafia would not claim wanderer in a game with trackers jat that is auto suicide

On September 19 2014 10:37 Damdred wrote:
HF which players in the game would autolynch for wander/miller claims? Palmar and who else?

On September 16 2014 09:54 batsnacks wrote:
Koshi is probably town. The ratio of scum to town in this game is .24. The absolute value of koshi's scum points awarded/town points awarded it is .62. So even though he has issued more town points than scum points, compared to the actual scum/town ratio the number of scum points he is issuing is high.

However, marv is over 50% of koshi's total awarded town points. If you remove marv from the equation koshi has issued 1.75 times as many scum points as town points.

And my conclusion is that he is townie.

On September 16 2014 10:29 batsnacks wrote:
Right now the four highest volume posters have a combined 26 pages of filter, which is more than everyone else in the game combined. We should leave them alone today. I think I'm going to start doing that more often. Whichever players have posted more than the entire thread combined d1 get a free town read regardless of what they post.

That's in order, robik, VE, marv, jat.

On September 19 2014 08:58 batsnacks wrote:


Yes. Do you know why? Because you're not an asshole just to be an asshole. Which is why I think you're town every game. Which is also why I think FecalFeast is town.

On September 19 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote:
The majority of games that someone claims it that person gets talked to death about and usually ends up as one of the candidates for lynch day 1.

On September 19 2014 10:48 StorrZerg wrote:


well here is my view.
All rayn did yesterday was whine cry and moan to lynch palmar.

When geript came in. I liked his attitude about being a replacement. specially someone who came into such a hot seat. His things is to claim pgo and then retract. Did i like that? not really. Did i believe his comment was genuine that he would die in the night? maybe. Maybe he felt this was the best role in hopes of dieing, any other role claim.





I like his attitude. I know its not alignment indicative, but it feels like a town post. If the lynch was rayn i would have no issue with the lynch. maybe i'm just a sucker to believe him. I kinda feel if he was mafia, if he replaced in, he would be ok with being the lynch today, and he would be trying to cause as much distraction as possible. I also don't think he pulls his claim back if he was mafia.

On September 19 2014 10:52 Holyflare wrote:
He was forced to take the claim back because he got called out about rayn agreeing with koshi that the pgo should claim.

On September 19 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:


So what? I also believe he is scum for that, but I want the conclusion on why's that particular a mafia move and not town move.

On September 19 2014 11:01 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar's day 1 was actually better than his day 2

On September 19 2014 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:


Sorry, language problems. Let me rephrase it.

I think geript is scum for claiming PGO and unclaiming.

But I want the scum motivation behind it. Just saying "he is scum for doing that" is bad. I want to hear "he is scum for doing that because as scum he can get away from this, force a push on this", etc.

I want to know what is the scum motivation behind the unclaim.

On September 19 2014 11:12 Hopeless1der wrote:

wont work. wagon palmar to kill him if you must, but it isnt likely to motivate him.

On September 19 2014 11:15 GlowingBear wrote:


Ok. Now tell me: why did he unclaim when he could've kept the claim and convince us he was actually PGO?

On September 19 2014 11:16 Superbia wrote:


Correct, I thought I would make use of my unfortunate d1 situation in a way that might profit me. I had read the push on me before at the start of the day and figured I would let it run and possibly fish out some scum.

1) I don't know what the fuck he's playing. I think his kind of play might be the same for town as for scum. He felt incredibly scummy for me d1 (though I only skimmed d1, and it will most likely stay that way due to time constraints), and multiple people felt the same way. However, I felt like it might just be something he does to set up easy scum games for when he rolls scum. I.e. he will do it regardless of alignment. So I don't know about Palmar right now, I want him to be more proactive so I can align him with others and hopefully have an easier time reading him.

2) geript is either emotional town or scum. I don't like emotional town because they're rather unpredictable to me, and quite frankly, they're annoying to cooperate with. Besides his garbage vote on me, I don't have anything strong on him at the moment. If I had two bullets I would shoot both BC and geript. Since we have one lynch I would prefer it to go on BC right now.

On September 19 2014 11:19 Holyflare wrote:
The town motivation is to get killed but he stopped that by unclaiming. This also wasn't his intention because his stated reason was "to get the pgo to claim". Which is actually very shit now that we kind of know mafia likely has a roleblocker (i think you can rb pgo? It says it resolves after rb's). A medic wouldn't be able to save the pgo and the pgo could get killed.

On September 19 2014 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:


He could easily keep the claim and say that Rayn said that so mafia would visit him at night trying to kill him and die.