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On September 18 2014 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik if you are town you will stop going against VE right now.
Yamato goes back to my townlist for giving a fuck. But that does not mean he is right.
Whatever. I'll drop it after this one last comment:
All VE does in any video mafia game ever, regardless of alignment is get angry and BM and tell people they're bad and they're shit for calling him scum. If he can't handle the same treatment, he should stop playing the game.
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On September 18 2014 02:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:31 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 01:59 geript wrote:On September 18 2014 01:56 Koshi wrote:On September 18 2014 01:56 geript wrote:On September 18 2014 01:53 Koshi wrote:
yeah geript is scum. Fuck that shit.
rayn is not so anti-town that he says PGO should claim when he is PGO. Wrong Koshi. I'm not mafia. Neither was Rayn. rayn wouldn't say my plan was good as PGO. So I figured if I claim PGO the real PGO would claim or people would never give me a gun. Sue me. I have reading to catch up on. Like wtf is this even? How is this any sort of logical justification for claiming PGO? "I claimed PGO because I'm town but don't want to get a gun" WUTTTTTTTTTTTT? If you're town, you'd rather have a gun than any rando who could possibly be mafia. I don't even. even. even. Ouch, my brain hurts now. On that note - wasn't geript one of the people who always complained about not getting vigilante?
I don't know.
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On September 18 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 18 2014 02:22 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:19 yamato77 wrote:On September 18 2014 02:17 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:01 yamato77 wrote:On September 18 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:On September 18 2014 01:52 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 18 2014 01:51 justanothertownie wrote:
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He was one of the people who actively destroyed the thread atmosphere and made people almost or actually modkill themselves. That is a very scumoriented agenda to me. Are you taking this stance with Robik? Because he's more guilty of this than BC is. Yes, he is. But he got very emotional himself and BC didn't. And BC also riled up marv and tried to do the same to me. You try to make BC look worse than Rob. This is laughable. Yamato, after I flip town, do you promise never ever ever EVER FUCKING EVER to try to read me in any fucking game we ever play again? Cause you're so insanely bad at it. If you promise me that you will stop it forever, then I'll let you continue to waste all your useless time pushing me. Otherwise, back the fuck off because I'm town and you're wasting your, and towns, time I promise you that you will be blackballed. Man, VE did to me what I did tohim on a lesser level. If I have to get angry and riled up to defend myself from a mislynch I will. If you don't like that, then that's fine. You ate out of my hand in 2+2 when I was mafia. You did the same in Order when I was mafia. You kept calling me scum in this game and you did it in witch hunt. Both games I'm town. Get off your "wahhh, everyone is ruining my experiencea nd I'm just gonna bitch and try to get them lynched until mafia wins" high horse and learn to play the game You weren't defending yourself from a mislynch, you were specifically trying to discredit me as a player for no reason other than to piss me off. No one was voting for you or even thinking you were mafia at the time - people STARTED calling you mafia when you started acting like a jerkoff, but no one was voting for you. Your justifications for treating people the way you do are fucking bullshit. 1) I got votes on me for not playing caus I was afk. 2) I came back and played and started accusing you and palmar 3) You yelled and kicked and screamed and cried like a lil girl about how you can't possibly be mafia and yelling about how I'm such shit at this game 4) I'm not gonna sit here and let people walk over me. 5) People started accusing me again 6) I started yelling to defend myself and then i started yelling to push my agenda and yeah, i yelled about how bad you are because all you were doing was crying about how bad I was for thinking you're mafia, when I was actually explaining shit and you were just typing in caps. Get over yourself. You're not some fucking god VE. If you play like crap, you better believe that I'm gonna call you out on it. Especially when you're coming at me claiming that I'm playing like crap. You initiated the treat people like shit this game. You and yamato are both hypocrites to the umpteenth degree That's not all I was doing though and you fucking know it - if it was then I wouldn't be universally townread by everyone. That's my point - you say I'm shit and terrible and all that, but EVERYONE is reading me town, so evidently I'm doing something right - but in spite of that you're just discrediting me all game long. LIke, I'm sorry that people think I'm good at this game and they think you're not. I'M SORRY. But that's not my fault Robik, and taking it out on me isn't going to accomplish anything and it's not going to win you this game and it's NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU ANY BETTER AT THIS GAME. Now I'm done lecturing you on the subject. If you think I treated you badly, I'm not sorry. I didn't, your bases for calling me mafia early in the game were shit-tier and I don't have a problem saying it. But you should be ashamed of how you treated me at the end of the day yesterday for no reason. That you're not is not surprising and I'm not letting it bother me because it's certainly not bothering you. If you're interested at all in helping me win this game, then prove it. Otherwise I'll keep calling for your head because I honestly think you're more interested in insulting people than winning the game, and I don't care to have that element in my game any longer.
Getting universally town read neither makes you good nor makes your reads good. It just means that people think you're town. My case on you wasn't shit tier. Further comments were deleted to avoid discussing things that are not game related
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On September 18 2014 02:40 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:34 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Robik if you are town you will stop going against VE right now.
Yamato goes back to my townlist for giving a fuck. But that does not mean he is right. Whatever. I'll drop it after this one last comment: All VE does in any video mafia game ever, regardless of alignment is get angry and BM and tell people they're bad and they're shit for calling him scum. If he can't handle the same treatment, he should stop playing the game. THIS IS IMPORTANT! ROBIK LIES ABOUT MY META IN AN ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT ME! FOR NO REASON! THERES ONLY MAFIA MOTIVATION FOR THIS!!!
You're so lucky that the VOD isn't available for the f7 from Andy's Thursday night game when you were called mafia. Holy shit you went off on people telling them how bad they were.
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On September 18 2014 02:42 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:41 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 18 2014 02:29 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 18 2014 02:22 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:19 yamato77 wrote:On September 18 2014 02:17 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:01 yamato77 wrote:On September 18 2014 01:54 justanothertownie wrote:
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Yes, he is. But he got very emotional himself and BC didn't. And BC also riled up marv and tried to do the same to me. You try to make BC look worse than Rob. This is laughable. Yamato, after I flip town, do you promise never ever ever EVER FUCKING EVER to try to read me in any fucking game we ever play again? Cause you're so insanely bad at it. If you promise me that you will stop it forever, then I'll let you continue to waste all your useless time pushing me. Otherwise, back the fuck off because I'm town and you're wasting your, and towns, time I promise you that you will be blackballed. Man, VE did to me what I did tohim on a lesser level. If I have to get angry and riled up to defend myself from a mislynch I will. If you don't like that, then that's fine. You ate out of my hand in 2+2 when I was mafia. You did the same in Order when I was mafia. You kept calling me scum in this game and you did it in witch hunt. Both games I'm town. Get off your "wahhh, everyone is ruining my experiencea nd I'm just gonna bitch and try to get them lynched until mafia wins" high horse and learn to play the game You weren't defending yourself from a mislynch, you were specifically trying to discredit me as a player for no reason other than to piss me off. No one was voting for you or even thinking you were mafia at the time - people STARTED calling you mafia when you started acting like a jerkoff, but no one was voting for you. Your justifications for treating people the way you do are fucking bullshit. 1) I got votes on me for not playing caus I was afk. 2) I came back and played and started accusing you and palmar 3) You yelled and kicked and screamed and cried like a lil girl about how you can't possibly be mafia and yelling about how I'm such shit at this game 4) I'm not gonna sit here and let people walk over me. 5) People started accusing me again 6) I started yelling to defend myself and then i started yelling to push my agenda and yeah, i yelled about how bad you are because all you were doing was crying about how bad I was for thinking you're mafia, when I was actually explaining shit and you were just typing in caps. Get over yourself. You're not some fucking god VE. If you play like crap, you better believe that I'm gonna call you out on it. Especially when you're coming at me claiming that I'm playing like crap. You initiated the treat people like shit this game. You and yamato are both hypocrites to the umpteenth degree That's not all I was doing though and you fucking know it - if it was then I wouldn't be universally townread by everyone. That's my point - you say I'm shit and terrible and all that, but EVERYONE is reading me town, so evidently I'm doing something right - but in spite of that you're just discrediting me all game long. LIke, I'm sorry that people think I'm good at this game and they think you're not. I'M SORRY. But that's not my fault Robik, and taking it out on me isn't going to accomplish anything and it's not going to win you this game and it's NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU ANY BETTER AT THIS GAME. Now I'm done lecturing you on the subject. If you think I treated you badly, I'm not sorry. I didn't, your bases for calling me mafia early in the game were shit-tier and I don't have a problem saying it. But you should be ashamed of how you treated me at the end of the day yesterday for no reason. That you're not is not surprising and I'm not letting it bother me because it's certainly not bothering you. If you're interested at all in helping me win this game, then prove it. Otherwise I'll keep calling for your head because I honestly think you're more interested in insulting people than winning the game, and I don't care to have that element in my game any longer. Getting universally town read neither makes you good nor makes your reads good. It just means that people think you're town. My case on you wasn't shit tier. Further comments were deleted to avoid discussing things that are not game related This is the last time I am saying this. SHUT UP. Threat the game like VE isn't existing. You make me want to lynch you.
I did shut up. I deleted 3/4 of my post to keep it 100% game related wtf!
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On September 18 2014 02:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't say it does - I said I'm doing something right when you're spending all your time saying I'm terrible and can only do things wrong. I said people THINK I'm good, which is evident in THIS thread. Both of those things are true, and both of them are what I said in that post. Plz stop arguing with me. If your case wasn't shit tier then why don't you think I'm mafia? If it's such a good case, then why aren't you screaming from the mountaintop that I'm mafia so all these wrong-headed townies stop calling me town?
Like that's what I'm saying Robik, you're just being contrary for no reason. Fucking stop if you're town dude.
Cause I have other people I think are mafia and have expressed those opinions and beliefs. I was wrong on Kush. Oh fucking well. I think palmar is shady, but I don't know. I thought that one of you/palmar was mafia, but I reconsidered and started thinking rayn is mafia. All of these opinions are well articulated in the thread if you bothered reading all of my posts.
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On September 18 2014 02:47 yamato77 wrote:
Hopeless, that is exactly what Rob is doing.
Is that what I did in the game on twoplustwo? Was that my mafia MO? Justify your scum read on me or stop reading me as scum and learn how to read people
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I think yamato is trying to get me modkilled, much along the lines of how I tried to get rayn modkilled
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On September 18 2014 02:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:02 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 18 2014 02:01 Koshi wrote:
geript claimed mafia for me. Even now that the PGO thing was "a ruse to soak up a bullet or avoid getting a gun"? I am not sure if you are sarcastic but the PGO kills mafia trying to visit him. geript also said it was to lure the real PGO out and that sounds a lot like bullshit. Town geript not wanting a gun and therefore fakeclaiming sounds unlikely as well because he seems to be eager to play this game. Also, fakeclaiming? why? It's so anti town. Mafia geript claiming PGO is pretty nice. 1) no chance to get counterclaimed. Or chances are really low. 2) a reason to not get "night killed". imo he claimed scum. I don't think I will change my view on it.
Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
If they really replaced scumrayn who was a way worse offender behaviourwise and townmarv did not get a replacement then fuck this game btw. It depends on when geript PMed BH to replace and it depends on if BH actively looked for a replacement for rayn. replacement is always better than no replacement. The modkill was way too late. Why did rayn get an extra 20 chances? 4 possible reasons. For endgame.
Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 02:11 IAmRobik wrote:On September 18 2014 02:09 yamato77 wrote:On September 18 2014 02:09 ShiaoPi wrote:
LT, palmar, HF, robik, geript, batsnacks, glowingbear, superbia
any of these dying tonight or getting lynched tomorrow will make me a happy person Not a bad list. ShiaoPi townpile. Half this list is fine. Half this list is fucking garbage Exactly. Probably some mafia buddies in there. Not a single original thought was given by ShiaoPi this game. Execpt his horrible reasons to call me town.
To elaborate:
His list:
LT, maybe palmar, probably HF, robik, prolly geript, batsnacks, glowingbear, superbia
not sure on the last two as I don't remember superbia's posts whatsoever and GB has been really wishy washy but I don't know if in a town way or scum way
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I don't remember. I haven't read his posts since they happened. They seemed townie and seemed like they were heading up the right track.
My early reads are almost universally better than my later reads. When I start to waiver and reconsider things, I end up talking myself into dumb decisions.
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On September 18 2014 03:14 Koshi wrote:
I wouldn't lynch batsnacks D2.
Me neither.
I actually had some reads I forgot to share. Let me go back and find them
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I have a slight townread on LT for his spew-string of posts on pg 124. Same goes for fecal, but to a slightly lesser extent.
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On September 18 2014 03:18 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:On September 18 2014 02:59 geript wrote:On September 16 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:At the start of the day I had this plan to catch scum!robik and/or scum!obiwan by taking advantage of their beef with each other. I knew robik would vote obiwan at some point especially if I provoked it a little. Figured why not get it out of the way early: On September 15 2014 06:52 batsnacks wrote:
Hey robik. I heard you hate obiwan, wanna vote him with me? I'll take the plunge first. Let me know.
##vote: ObiWanShinobi If I had realized there was a voting thread I probably would have posted there too but it's just as well that I didn't, I wasn't serious about the vote. Robik as planned did vote obiwan and beef did ensue. Robik did that thing where he called a bunch of people retards for disliking his stupid "personal reasons" vote. If I were present in the thread when all of that was happening I would have voted robik and I would have felt good about it, especially after he started spamming in all caps and throwing a tantrum about people voting him. But he's like 6 pages of filter since then and is looking a lot better. I know from past games that robik is stubborn and I feel like scum!robik would have been way more stubborn about the obiwan vote... like he would have tried anything to make it work. His posts were never that focused on obiwan though. The fact that he is more interested in playing the game than satisfying some weird personal issue is townie. Obiwan doesn't look scummy to me either. There's much less in his filter to comment on. I remember reading this last night and it bothered me; didn't think of why. Batsnacks sets up a situation where he's going to think at least one of Robik/Obi is mafia. But he ends up essentially town-reading both. I haven't read Robik's filter, but from the quotes I've seen I haven't really gotten the sense that people think he's town or that he's done more than just call himself confirmed town, claim vt, etc. So Batsnacks getting the read on Robik here seems exceptionally out of place. To steal from Koshi Batsnacks +2 scum points The bolded doesn't make sense and didn't happen at all. He created a scenario to read both players. He read both town. The end. No Koshi. Look at how he gets there. Robik being stubborn jackass by throwing a tantrum and typing in all caps. But Scum robik would've been more stubborn about this one specific thing. I don't see that as being a good read. In the least it's a bad read. But I don't see how he can argue that Robik is more interested in playing than bringing up personal beef from what I've see. You're wrong.
he's saying that if I were scum, I'd be more likely to continue pushing a lynch!cava agenda than focusing on anythign else and would continue to push that agenda. He's not saying I'm not a stubborn asshole. He's saying I would be more of a stubborn asshole specifically regarding cava
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On September 18 2014 03:18 IAmRobik wrote:
I have a slight townread on LT for his spew-string of posts on pg 124. Same goes for fecal, but to a slightly lesser extent.
And yeah, I know I just painted him in red.
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Geript,
At what point in reading the game aka catching up did you decide that you were going to claim PGO? Please point me to the post or the page when it clicked that that's the towniest thing you can do at that moment.
Also, did you read any of Rayn's posts before posting?
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On September 18 2014 04:11 IAmRobik wrote:
Geript,
At what point in reading the game aka catching up did you decide that you were going to claim PGO? Please point me to the post or the page when it clicked that that's the towniest thing you can do at that moment.
Also, did you read any of Rayn's posts before posting?
Like, I want you to break down exactly how you went about reading the game/catching up. Like what you did first. What you did next. Then what you did. All the way up to the point where you claimed PGO.
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On September 18 2014 04:14 Fecalfeast wrote:
I would be okay with learning that, too.
Why don't you think I am me, Robik?
Cause the way you talk about meta reads and the way you're not interacting nervously at all and giving your thoughts and joking around and all these things are not indicative of a new player. And when you ask questions, you ask them in such a weird awkward way as if you know the answer and you just want it to be clarified for you as if you're acting dumb (i.e. wouldn't that make koshi scummier if he was pushing on kush who was town)
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I expect someone faking being new to ask "wouldn't it make koshi scummier that he's pushing on town!kush"
I expect someone who is actually new to state "koshi is scummier for pushing town!kush"
I think that both of those things are wrong. I think most vets would agree that koshi is townier for the way he pushed hard on Kush. Mafia tend to sit back and let lynches happen (for the most part), especialyl when they're mislynches. They don't want their hands dirty of anything bad. Which was why I accused VE earlier. He seemed like he was willing to push on Palmar, but didn't want to be suspected if Palmar flipped town. Like "hey guys, look, i even said that he might flip town"
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On September 18 2014 04:25 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2014 04:19 IAmRobik wrote:
I expect someone faking being new to ask "wouldn't it make koshi scummier that he's pushing on town!kush"
I expect someone who is actually new to state "koshi is scummier for pushing town!kush"
I think that both of those things are wrong. I think most vets would agree that koshi is townier for the way he pushed hard on Kush. Mafia tend to sit back and let lynches happen (for the most part), especialyl when they're mislynches. They don't want their hands dirty of anything bad. Which was why I accused VE earlier. He seemed like he was willing to push on Palmar, but didn't want to be suspected if Palmar flipped town. Like "hey guys, look, i even said that he might flip town" I wouldn't really say I was ever "willing to push on Palmar". I VOTED on Palmar, sure, but I never did any of the "pushing". I would agree with this reasoning if not for that and try and explain myself further, but like I said then, I wasn't pushing Palmar because I didn't really think Palmar was super mafia. In fact, I intimated the polar opposite, that I had a townread on Palmar based on something in the thread. So why vote? Because my townies (GOOD, STRONG townies) said Palmar was mafia. *shrug*
Why are you still harping on this. I'm not pushing you. I used this as a freaking example to explain to fecal what I meant and my general feelings on scum/town motivations. There's absolutely 0 reason that you need to respond to that post
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