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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 02 2014 13:10 GMT
#10
My schedule have been less taxing for these few weeks, so I think I can
/in
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:30 GMT
#83
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:33 GMT
#85
So here's the real question: how town are you right now robik
Prove it to me
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:43 GMT
#87
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:47 GMT
#88
Also,
In the event of a tie, the Witches will decide who holds the Grail.

We must 100% choose someone and bot leave it up to witches.

The bearer of the holy grail will almost certainly die on d2 and the matyr should definitely try to save the bearer.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 23:01 GMT
#90
If the bearer of the Holy Grail dies, the Holy Grail leaves the game.


Like which scum won't kill the 2 vote item thing?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 23:16 GMT
#107
On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 23:31 GMT
#130
On September 04 2014 08:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:21 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.

Please explain in your words why HaruRH is likely to be scum.

Look at how he's approaching the grail. It's a very odd series of thoughts; more importantly, it's far less likely to come from town that "X and Y are super important for town to win, let's give X and Y the grail" without any questions as to whether or not they're actually town. Plus the "grail bearer is going to die automatically, so lets give it to X and Y important people" isn't exactly a logical thought process.


Wrong
I meant that they should get it because they won't waste the grail power on some dick measuring contest that robik will actively participate in, nor lurk to high heavens

Die automatically? So matyr role is fake?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 13:56 GMT
#314
On September 04 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
easy game lynch into:

LoneMeow
HaruRH
gobbledydook
slOosh
Sylencia
Damdred

sure win ^^


This is the 4th game in a row that rayn scumreads me on d1. I turned out town on all (except heavyweight).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 13:59 GMT
#315
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:01 GMT
#319
On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?


How was the conclusion dumb?
It was so simple: Let one of the towniest person take the grail, make a matyr defend him at all cost, get 2 day's worth of free town 2 votes.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:24 GMT
#328
On September 04 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 23:01 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?


How was the conclusion dumb?
It was so simple: Let one of the towniest person take the grail, make a matyr defend him at all cost, get 2 day's worth of free town 2 votes.

So was i one of the towniest person (you said me or Koshi should have it) when i had made zero posts?

one of the people who can use the vote wise enough not to afk or impulse lynch someone
but now I take that back
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#330
On September 04 2014 23:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:59 HaruRH wrote:
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.

But with you saying this, you might actaully be scum

that's not how it works robik and you know it
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:26 GMT
#332
On September 04 2014 23:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I wouldn't mind lynching slOosh. There's a distinct lack of direction in his filter, the questions seem to lack followup for the most part and he's happy talking about things that aren't related to scum hunting at all.

Also there's gems like this:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:09 slOosh wrote:
Ok this is nonsense what's going on so I'm gonna shut it down independent of Oats' actual alignment.

Oats is posturing into a position where he is blaming people and saying that they aren't scumhunting. Realize that this itself isn't scumhunting. You tell me what Oats has done to scum hunt. Nothing. That question at this point is total bogus.

Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.

Oats, now to you specifically, this game is unique theme. Don't just port over heuristics lazily and pretend you are all that. If you have specific things you want to grill me on, then go ahead, but I'm asking you to change your current approach of pointing fingers at everyone.


...which is kinda like accusing Oatsmaster without actually calling him scum.

It's more like he is saving this post so that he can use it to vote on oats when his wagon comes up, and link this post, stating how he already scumread oats etc.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#334
On September 04 2014 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 23:24 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:01 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?


How was the conclusion dumb?
It was so simple: Let one of the towniest person take the grail, make a matyr defend him at all cost, get 2 day's worth of free town 2 votes.

So was i one of the towniest person (you said me or Koshi should have it) when i had made zero posts?

one of the people who can use the vote wise enough not to afk or impulse lynch someone
but now I take that back

but you just said you wanted the towniest person to have it.
which is not what you said at the beginning.

makes sense how?

Lets break it down, shall we

Is the towniest person going to afk and waste the 2 vote? probably not.
Is the towniest person going to abuse his rights to have 2 votes? No.
Is the towniest person then able to make sound decision on who to vote? Yes.
So is the person wise enough to use the double vote the towniest person? Yes.

Note: if you're going to mix up towniest, as in towniest of town before the game even started (eg: hf) and towniest of town after the game started (eg:me) then obviously you're confusing yourself.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:05 GMT
#547
On September 05 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:
LM/HaruRH/gobble


for endgame cred.


Wrong.
Try again.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:10 GMT
#549
I thought the notebook idea sucked so i decided not to use it.
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
Koshi, stop lying about wanting to post lesser. You know it won't happen and it only makes people suspicious of you. Where is the 'i am the town lord' koshi? Or are you scum?
Sylencia... wtf? Souping me? Are you trying to figure out my role or have you?
Oats... i feel the singaporean from you. We both are confusing for stupid americans.
Yamato -afk lord
Geript is missing. Where is he?

I'm not interested in talk about the rest yet.
Meanwhile, i am ghostly because i am busy. But i will have sudden spikes in activity when I'm free. Start asking me questions.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:23 GMT
#551
On September 05 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.


Did you even read the voting thread
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:56 GMT
#554
On September 05 2014 21:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:23 HaruRH wrote:
On September 05 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.


Did you even read the voting thread

You vote in the voting thread but not mention it in your reads post.

Last question: What do you think about gobble?

was i supposed to put my vote here too? no.

I would say that scum gobble is wayyyyy more lurky than this. I know because I played with both town and scum gobble.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 13:44 GMT
#560
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 12:23 GMT
#735
On September 06 2014 14:51 Sylencia wrote:
But I don't think we have a choice to see what happens after N1 :\

Anyways, Damdred may be lurky this game but the majority of his posts have been actual soft pushes and questioning of people's motives. No one ever follows up on it though, and it'd actually make it hard to get a good back and forth showing whether or not he's town. Following from that, sloosh is avoiding the majority of Damdred's replies and painting a picture of how we should be viewing Damdred - someone who lurks under the radar and doesn't have anything to show. I mean, the part with nothing to show can easily be fixed Damdred, who are your top 3 scum reads and why but my activity would be so low if I was getting ignored like Damdred was. I'm not one to want to lynch him today.

Geript: He gave his opinions about a day and a half ago(?), most of which were meta cases to show who he thought was scum. Ever since then everything he's posted has been rather wishy washy and never actually pushes for anyone being scum. Instead, all you'll see are town reads which is mostly fine, but there's more than 1 scum, and sitting on gobbly as the only scum read is pretty poor.

My top 3 scum reads: Sloosh, geript and goobly. I like the association between the 3, but meh.

Goobly because I like to think I had already figured out who the martyr was, but I mean, that claim I feel is pretty horrible anyways.


Tell me if im wrong but:
1) you saw me playing scummy, so you 'put yourself into my shoe'
2) you thus concluded i was matyr
3) you didn't believe gobble's claim because of that

if so, its wrong. Im not matyr. I'm just a role that wants scum to shoot me . This is not a claim.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 13:02 GMT
#740
Yes, i am also interested to find out why did you come to a conclusion that i was matyr.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 14:12 GMT
#744
forgive me for being afk for the early half of d1, now ima catch up and get serious. We gon rekt some skums
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 14:18 GMT
#745
On September 06 2014 13:32 gobbledydook wrote:
I think I'll claim now.

I am the martyr.

I will martyr save night 1 no matter what. If mafia soups me, the effect is the same, I die instead of someone else. If you lynch me, there will be no martyr save. Thus you will know that I am the martyr.


btw you know you must 100% die tonight, right? Doesn't matter if you think the person isn't a worthy save, you MUST save him or we will lynch you d2
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 14:23 GMT
#748
On September 06 2014 07:52 geript wrote:
Wouldn't lynch over gobbly but it's not a bad target.
Right now I'm at:
Town:
Syl
Yam
Ritoky
Rayn
Koshi

I need to find 1-2 more town and just random. I'll figure it out after my movie

I still don't get where geript gets his reads from.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 14:23 GMT
#749
lol ninjaed by robik
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 15:46 GMT
#776
On September 07 2014 00:45 Damdred wrote:
Votes just keep piling up and I don't think that there will be enough people willing to come off of me or non afk to save me

I have a feeling you can save yourself by actually filter diving and catching up etc than whining right now
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 15:47 GMT
#777
On September 07 2014 00:46 IAmRobik wrote:
Also, does anyone think that Geript is town? That guy hasn't done dick for liek 40 hours


I'm willing to switch to geript because he called me out and did nothing at all.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 15:50 GMT
#782
On September 07 2014 00:49 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:48 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:46 Sylencia wrote:
Guys, let's not be lazy and select the person with less activity than the rest. It's pretty much set up to be an easy mislynch if he's town and there's just not enough to go off instead of others.

If I was to select someone for lynching it's geript. He's actually done very little to help town, beyond the first 12 hours of the game, he's been finding people safe over people who are scummy. Process of elimination probabyl works at a lower player count, but to try pull off 13 man PoE isn't something I'd see anyone trying to do.

Damdred is basically scum claiming.

"I'm going to do work to prove that i'm town"

goes off and posts in a different game instead of playing this one

"guys, i'm just keeping up with what's happening right now, which is hard cause it's like 1 post per half hour"

leaves again

"guys, i'm not gonna do work because i don't think 6 hours is enough time to do the work required to convince you that i'm town"

Fuck that shit.


Except obviously i'm actually reading filters since you know I asked questions to koshi from his fucking filter right? RIGHT?

except reading koshi's filter does not automatically grant you the 'town' status
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 16:34 GMT
#800
On September 07 2014 01:21 IAmRobik wrote:
Mafia is within Koshi/damdred/geript/rayn/MAYBE sylencia for not wanting to lynch damdred/maybe haru for being pretty useless

I think the rest of the people are town


Please find a game where haru is moderately useful in d1
I am already kind for being at all useful today.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 18:12 GMT
#847
stop hurting my ghostly heart, robik.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 18:47 GMT
#858
On September 07 2014 03:17 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 03:12 HaruRH wrote:
stop hurting my ghostly heart, robik.


doesn't do anything in thread, name is mentioned, appears with joke comment; hard to not instant scum read


i'm not interested to tell you exactly why I am busy right now. I hope someone enlighten him so that he won't use this as an excuse to scumread me lol
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:02 GMT
#890
ALRIGHT im back after a super stressful co-hosting time.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:04 GMT
#894
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:06 GMT
#897
On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:11 GMT
#902
On September 07 2014 05:08 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

That's probably because you have been completely useless this game. You're probably scum. Don't particularly care right now. I'm choosing to currently be useless because well meh, I'm tired of reading and thinking and shit.


This is a good time to use meta, geript
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:25 GMT
#905
On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:08 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

That's probably because you have been completely useless this game. You're probably scum. Don't particularly care right now. I'm choosing to currently be useless because well meh, I'm tired of reading and thinking and shit.


This is a good time to use meta, geript

Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.
[image loading]
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.
[image loading]

Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious


wrong
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:29 GMT
#908
On September 07 2014 05:26 geript wrote:
Plus, doesn't anyone else find it a bit odd that with as many people as Sir Scumik has talked about, he's completely avoided talking about HaruRH at all.


shheshh I let you into a small secret
It's because robik played quite a few games with me and know this is my town play
while you manipulate your 'meta' reads up to your preference
so youre scum
sheesh don't let anyone else know it
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:42 GMT
#916
On September 05 2014 11:53 geript wrote:
Town Princess Newbie
TownWorld Heavyweight

Mafia Noir
Mafia Detention


If you look in his town games, he actually comes out with his own opinions. He forces stuff that he thinks because he finds it important. He even comes up with some good reads (e.g. his HaruRH read in Noir). I'm not really seeing that at all this game from him.

If you look in his scum games, he mostly comments on the thread rather than forcing is own thoughts and things onto people. By this I mean, he talks about things that are going on in the thread, being said, being talked about etc. He rarely forces his viewpoint and doesn't really "stick himself out there."

That's the major difference that I see. The problem is that first meta is easy to use incorrectly and second that newer players change much faster which makes meta arguments much worse. In this game, I see far, far more of the latter. He's not really pushing his opinion on anything or anyone in a strong way. That's specifically why I think he's mafia. My hesitation is that I don't have a great record using meta and he's new which makes him harder to read.


On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:08 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

That's probably because you have been completely useless this game. You're probably scum. Don't particularly care right now. I'm choosing to currently be useless because well meh, I'm tired of reading and thinking and shit.


This is a good time to use meta, geript

Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.
[image loading]
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.
[image loading]

Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious


It's simple, you went into details when you explain your meta read into gobble, giving him a supposed null read (btw, even your examples were wrong because haru didn't play in noir!

Now, you use a supposed 'meta' read that is junk because 1)robik is irresponsible, but I am not handing it over to ritoky 2) I have explained I was busy
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:44 GMT
#918
ceremonial vote because people complained I did not put my votes here:

##DeadlineUnvote
##DeadlineVote: geript
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:50 GMT
#922

HolyGrail Votecount:
Geript (3) - Koshi, geript, raynpelikoneet
Ritoky (4) - ritoky, gobbeldydook, HaruRH, Sylencia
Yamato77 (1) - Yamato77
IAmRobik (4) - IAmRobik, LoneMeow, SloOsh, Damdred


geript is conf. scum. He suggests I vote for rayn/koshi when neither of them are up in contender for grail. And he is using it as a basis for scumread. HI-LARI-OUS
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:51 GMT
#923
On September 07 2014 05:47 IAmRobik wrote:
That Haru vote is so bad. It's such a throwaway vote onto geript when we're 1hr from EOD and Rayn/Damdred are the top 2 wagons


Why you so mad? It's quite obvious we cannot reach majority and the guy with the blue role to force lynch will do it for us.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:52 GMT
#924
Judge: If there is no majority for a lynch at the end of the day, you may decide on your own who to lynch.

Like I hope you realise this guy existed
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 20:57 GMT
#928
Robik do you enjoy playing this game?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 06 2014 21:06 GMT
#939
On September 07 2014 06:02 slOosh wrote:
And we should all vote as if judge did not exist. Voting patterns are useful and using the judge as a catch all lets scum vote wherever they feel like and avoid discussion.


That's a good idea. I suggest we lynch geript.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 08 2014 06:54 GMT
#1040
On September 08 2014 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 12:56 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 08 2014 12:53 ritoky wrote:
On September 08 2014 10:58 geript wrote:
Also for the record. Pretty sure Koshi was a miss.


what precisely leads you to this conclusion?

also what do you think of the judge going completely against the candidates that the majority of town wanted?

I was trying to be crafty so that they would try to soup oats = judge


pfft, im not that dumb.
What kinda idiot claims judge by lynching someone that was only pushed by him??

haru feels like scum from the throwaway vote in majority lynch.

I think rayn will either be useful or useless and we can make a more accurate decision later in the game, no reason to lynch him when there are dudes like damdred, syl, haru, LM
actually you know what, LM is scum.
didnt vote.
Doesnt follow up on questions.
Only talks about one dude in any form of detail and this is nothing like his town play.

LYNCH!
##vote LM
if we dont actually iml at least once this game, I will be very sad.


the fuck?
So geript's vote on me is not a throwaway, while my vote on him is throwaway?
Even when i explained why his vote on me is dumb and the reasoning sucked?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 08 2014 06:57 GMT
#1041
On September 07 2014 05:42 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 11:53 geript wrote:
Town Princess Newbie
TownWorld Heavyweight

Mafia Noir
Mafia Detention


If you look in his town games, he actually comes out with his own opinions. He forces stuff that he thinks because he finds it important. He even comes up with some good reads (e.g. his HaruRH read in Noir). I'm not really seeing that at all this game from him.

If you look in his scum games, he mostly comments on the thread rather than forcing is own thoughts and things onto people. By this I mean, he talks about things that are going on in the thread, being said, being talked about etc. He rarely forces his viewpoint and doesn't really "stick himself out there."

That's the major difference that I see. The problem is that first meta is easy to use incorrectly and second that newer players change much faster which makes meta arguments much worse. In this game, I see far, far more of the latter. He's not really pushing his opinion on anything or anyone in a strong way. That's specifically why I think he's mafia. My hesitation is that I don't have a great record using meta and he's new which makes him harder to read.


Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:08 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

That's probably because you have been completely useless this game. You're probably scum. Don't particularly care right now. I'm choosing to currently be useless because well meh, I'm tired of reading and thinking and shit.


This is a good time to use meta, geript

Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:
On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.
[image loading]
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.
[image loading]

Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious


It's simple, you went into details when you explain your meta read into gobble, giving him a supposed null read (btw, even your examples were wrong because haru didn't play in noir!

Now, you use a supposed 'meta' read that is junk because 1)robik is irresponsible, but I am not handing it over to ritoky 2) I have explained I was busy

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 08 2014 11:00 GMT
#1051
Until now, he still refuses to give any reads based on this game, but based on his horribly twisted 'meta' reads that are bent to suit his purposes. For example, the stuff I pointed out that was very inconsistent with all his reads was that he was using different parts of meta argument so that he can 'read' a person (eg. gobble) without looking like he did nothing. Next, his piss poor 'meta' read on me that called me mafia was very irritating to read because it is obviously twitsted so that he can call me mafia while having some sort of justification. He is basically playing like someone who only pulls reads out of his ass, except with bad 'meta' reads to justify. Therefore, he is skum.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 08 2014 11:04 GMT
#1052
On September 04 2014 16:04 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 15:55 ritoky wrote:
On September 04 2014 15:53 geript wrote:
I don't really have any solid townreads yet. It's really sad. Plus there's too many people on my too lynch list. Gun to my head Koshi; he's not as happy and fun as I usually think of him. But there's an odd towny air to him.


who, other than non-posters, is on your "too lynch list"?

Oats is like really not town oTsy to me. Ps I am the oats whisperer (sssshhhh don't tell Austin)
Gobbly I'm pretty solid on. He's really thread policy which he tends to be in his scum games. Plus he's not really paranoid and aggressive and analyzing things which is what I saw in his town games. But he's pretty new so I'm a little hesitant there.
Yamato for funsies. But seriously if he doesn't try to add something useful.
HaruRH I get a really weird vibe from. I haven't played with him much but I got the feels from him early on.
Robik. He's done a lot of things I've seen from his mafia play. He hasn't hard called me town yet. He's been schmoozing and generally unproductive (in an unproductive way instead of in a town Robik way).


Slowish I'm guessing is town. Sylencia might be too based on attitude. That's essentially where I'm at.


On September 05 2014 11:53 geript wrote:
Town Princess Newbie
TownWorld Heavyweight

Mafia Noir
Mafia Detention


If you look in his town games, he actually comes out with his own opinions. He forces stuff that he thinks because he finds it important. He even comes up with some good reads (e.g. his HaruRH read in Noir). I'm not really seeing that at all this game from him.

If you look in his scum games, he mostly comments on the thread rather than forcing is own thoughts and things onto people. By this I mean, he talks about things that are going on in the thread, being said, being talked about etc. He rarely forces his viewpoint and doesn't really "stick himself out there."

That's the major difference that I see. The problem is that first meta is easy to use incorrectly and second that newer players change much faster which makes meta arguments much worse. In this game, I see far, far more of the latter. He's not really pushing his opinion on anything or anyone in a strong way. That's specifically why I think he's mafia. My hesitation is that I don't have a great record using meta and he's new which makes him harder to read.


Basically the 2 things I highlighted shows how he progressively hard scumreads gobble at early d1 and then relieve some pressure off him by stating how he was newbie and shit. Horribly twisting 'meta' reads to his advantage.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 08 2014 11:09 GMT
#1053
On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 05:11 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:08 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:
On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

That's probably because you have been completely useless this game. You're probably scum. Don't particularly care right now. I'm choosing to currently be useless because well meh, I'm tired of reading and thinking and shit.


This is a good time to use meta, geript

Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.


Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious


I removed the pics because they are annoying.

This again shows how he tries to bend his 'meta' reads to attack me. Then, he comes along and do this horseshit:

You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.

Which I already explained in my counter of this read, is stupid because the only candidates that obviously will have the grail at the end of the day are robik, yamato and geript (perhaps he is sour I did not vote for him) and I will not give the grail to yamato nor geript.

Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious


Similarly, taking out all the bullshit meta reads from his filter, all you see is talk about grail. I don't see why people think he is town.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 09 2014 00:40 GMT
#1162
On September 09 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.

GOOD IDEA THEN AT LEAAT MY ROLE IS USEFUL THEN
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 09 2014 03:28 GMT
#1170
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
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September 09 2014 04:02 GMT
#1180
I think this game is more fun to play from a mechanical standpoint. We must first decipher what koshi's judge lynch and gobble's block does for us. Firstly,
However, if first the Soup target is incorrect, the witch will not be revealed and the message will instead read "a witch tried to kill targetname the [incorrect role] but failed".
This means that whoever gobble tried to protect have his role revealed by the necro already. Therefore, witch are given a free chance to guess roles without getting revealed (since they have a correct soup target already). So therefore, they can do something like: 1)robik is X. 2)Haru is Y. 3)(witch kill target blocked by gobble) is Z(which is correct). This is kinda bad since they get a free soup guess chain.

also, out of the 10 roles:
3 have a confirmed flip: Crusader, grandier, martyr.
4 can out themselves if they get a positive result: Inquisitor, exorcist, pope(only at lylo), pope*(when wraith haunts you, you know the identity), grandier*(when wraith haunts you, you know the identity).
2 can reveal if they are dead: judge (if a no lynch happens and there is no lynch selected, we can deduce that mafia killed judge at night), wandering wraith(he can haunt you and let you know he died).
Only acolyte is quite useless because you only get to confirm a player and when you out him, you must get ready to get him souped with you (if he is alive) and mafia can easily lie about being acolyte since they can say eg. koshi is inquisitor.

Therefore, it is crucial that the confirmed flip players do not die without flipping because every town flip helps a lot.

The game should solve itself at d3-d4. More details at d3 I like this game more and more now.

For now, I am content with the amount of info provided because of gobble's flip and the eventual soup that will confirm another town. Also, with gobble being an angel with koshi, it is more likely that the angelic protection comes from a town. From now on, I will be mostly using a mechanics point of view to do reads over than just reads based on posts (which I suck at).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 09 2014 04:03 GMT
#1181
On September 09 2014 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.


who gives a shit who gets souped?
Why isnt this post about the most likely scum in the game?


Souped = confirmed town flip
witch kill = confirmed town flip
lynch = not confirmed (like koshi)
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HaruRH
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September 09 2014 04:04 GMT
#1183
On September 09 2014 12:34 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.


Koshi was not a wild card. Robick would be more than willing to go for the grail just because he "wouldn't do that as mafia." He's done that as mafia like a billion and a half times.


Koshi IS a wildcard because there is no 100% confirmation he is town.
Robik will NOT be willing to go for the grail as scum. If you want to argue so, please present your meta arguments
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HaruRH
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September 09 2014 04:05 GMT
#1184
On September 09 2014 13:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru please stop.
You can't possibly do shit unless you know how many mafia is left unless you are the Oracle in which case you're being extremely dumb because you are the most important role in the game.

Do not talk about the setup and connections until either the oracle or the cop claims.


This is the approach im am taking to solve the game.
I did not talk about any connections yet, like I said, I will not reveal them until they actually happened. I am just stating what happened and what are the implications.
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HaruRH
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September 09 2014 04:16 GMT
#1191
I feel that sylencia have been trying to buddy me the whole game :/

Koshi should be more of a miss given how historically, everytime koshi scumreads me, he flips town.

Again, I didn't feel the overwhelming towniness from koshi that I always feel from playing with him as town, so I have my reservations on whether if it was truly a miss. But more of a miss because

It's the new and improved me.
Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias.

It's much better for my reads.

I just need people to do the legwork for me.
and I believe him given how our last game turned out.
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HaruRH
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September 09 2014 04:24 GMT
#1194
On September 09 2014 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 13:16 HaruRH wrote:
I feel that sylencia have been trying to buddy me the whole game :/

Koshi should be more of a miss given how historically, everytime koshi scumreads me, he flips town.

Again, I didn't feel the overwhelming towniness from koshi that I always feel from playing with him as town, so I have my reservations on whether if it was truly a miss. But more of a miss because

It's the new and improved me.
Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias.

It's much better for my reads.

I just need people to do the legwork for me.
and I believe him given how our last game turned out.

Koshi didn't read me as town and he loves to lynch me even as town... (and when he thinks i am mafia - or rather not town).
There is no reason he wanted a lynch and didn't vote for me unless he was scared of me getting back and destroying him.


When did koshi read you as town after d1?
so you believe koshi is scum?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 09 2014 09:14 GMT
#1249
Problem is, mafia still can soup tonight. If its me ill soup for all.
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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 09 2014 10:04 GMT
#1253
Oh geript you never considered that he was claiming to [i]bait a cc . His is probably the betrayer, the role that switches once he help mafia kill one, the role which....
Wait. That don't exist here. Therefore he is mafia.[/b]
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 09 2014 10:05 GMT
#1254
On September 09 2014 19:04 HaruRH wrote:
Oh geript you never considered that he was claiming to bait a cc . His is probably the betrayer, the role that switches once he help mafia kill one, the role which....
Wait. That don't exist here. Therefore he is mafia.


Fixed
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 09 2014 10:11 GMT
#1255
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.
a
On September 05 2014 22:43 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote:
I thought the notebook idea sucked so i decided not to use it.
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
Koshi, stop lying about wanting to post lesser. You know it won't happen and it only makes people suspicious of you. Where is the 'i am the town lord' koshi? Or are you scum?
Sylencia... wtf? Souping me? Are you trying to figure out my role or have you?
Oats... i feel the singaporean from you. We both are confusing for stupid americans.
Yamato -afk lord
Geript is missing. Where is he?

I'm not interested in talk about the rest yet.
Meanwhile, i am ghostly because i am busy. But i will have sudden spikes in activity when I'm free. Start asking me questions.


Just accept I think you're town because I put myself in your shoes. I can only go so deep into my logic without saying too much.
On September 08 2014 22:59 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sylencia why is geript mafia?


Explained it already D1, Haru has the in depth details. Still has yet to do anything D2 either.


What do you think about his constant buddying with me? buddying is alignment null, but... this is pretty excessive.
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HaruRH
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September 09 2014 15:17 GMT
#1270
On September 09 2014 23:05 IAmRobik wrote:
BTW -- if there's someone else who is the role that knows who the inquisitor is, you should probably claim

Why would you cc acolyte? It is already dubious to claim it - not to mention counterclaim it.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 08:47 GMT
#1441
On September 10 2014 17:38 geript wrote:
If people refuse to lynch Sylencia, I want to lynch either Harurh or Damdred. I could be convinced to look at Oats, but if I can't get a lynch off on Syl then those are the main two I'd look at. I'm still hoping Robik was mafia though.

No we are lynching you today.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 10 2014 08:49 GMT
#1442
We need a majority today. We cannot confirm if robik was the judge or not, so it is best to pretend our judge died and we get a majority on someone.
Preferably geript.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 10 2014 10:23 GMT
#1466
On September 10 2014 18:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru can you explain the following:

This is what you said at some point during D1:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:10 HaruRH wrote:
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.

This is what you said later on:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.


Now the problem is the first post is made when the game has been on for some time.
Robert had gone for the grail all the time the game has been on, from the beginning of the game.

How does this make sense for you to base your read on Robert like this? I see a contradiction which you should explain.


I think it should be more fair if you used other games that I played with robik to compare with this one. All of them were me town with robik town, so I already knew what to expect such that I can 100% read robik is town. My read on him cannot be explained (). It is what I see that makes him town, not only because he pulled off some cute stunt such as running for the grail.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 10 2014 10:26 GMT
#1467
On September 05 2014 23:13 IAmRobik wrote:
How can people still doubt me as town? Y'all are fucking silly silly people. I've been the most vocal active person. If i'm scum, I'm leading the most retarded agenda of all time trying to push Rayn and geript when there are easily lynches like haru/gobble/sylencia/yamato/koshi available. If you look at my play in Order, after a silly silly push on marv on d1 or d2, I start focusing on low-post count players who are easy mislynches who contribute nothing.

Either way, I'm super obv town in my opinion.

I expect way more of town!damdred.
I think there is something off about koshi.
I still lynch sylencia, even though people are throwing scum his way.
i skipped a few pages from like pg 23-28, but i'll catch up on them at some point


I was also waiting for something like that to pop up from robik.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 10:29 GMT
#1468
In all his past scum games, robik never goes 'fuck you all I am town and anyone who think i am not town is antitown and should die now'. He will always go 'yea I am town so you guys are wrong'. I was waiting for the aggressive robik to come out and party :D
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 10:32 GMT
#1469
If you want a specific post that actually made me go 'this is the town robik I know' then this is the post that made me insta-townread him

On September 05 2014 04:43 IAmRobik wrote:
HOW CAN HE HAVE A TOWN READ ON KOSHI AND NOT RAYN WHEN TWO OF THE 3 MAFIA SUSPECTS ARE THE SAME AS RAYN'S BUT HE QUESTIONS KOSHI A TOWN READ, BUT NOT RAYN WHO IS A FENCE READ?

Geript's play does not line up.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 10 2014 12:33 GMT
#1473
On September 10 2014 21:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So Haru why didn't you give all those reasons the last time you said why Robik is town instead of "he wouldn't go for the grail as mafia"?

What's the difference?
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 12:53 GMT
#1476
On September 10 2014 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
to be more clear.

Timeline:
game start----------(X)--------(1)---------other things happen----------(2)------------->present

Robik does things marked as (X).
In (1) you say "i do not know if robert is town or mafia.
Other things happen (those things are irrelevant to this because see (2)).
In (2) you say "robert is town because he did (X)".

(X) here represents robert wanting the grail.

Now my problem is why did you not read robert town in (1) because the reasoning you used for townreading him in (2) happened before (1).

Understand?


There was no contradiction because

gamestart ------ (X) -------(1) ----------(Y)------(2)-------> present

In (1) I said idk if robik is mafia or town.
In (X) robik stated he wants the grail <--- this is alignment null because ANYONE can want the grail
In (2) I said robik is conf. town
In (Y) robik hardpushed for his grail.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 13:03 GMT
#1477
On September 06 2014 03:11 IAmRobik wrote:
People need to vote Ritoky for mayor over geript. Geript is doing some stuff I don't like -- specifically, half of his sentences have grammatical errors that are painful to read and make it sound a lot like someone who is going back to revise what they were trying to originally say.


Even 1 day after I made the message about not knowing if he was town or scum, he was not hard pushing for the grail at all.

On September 06 2014 04:51 IAmRobik wrote:
You have me voting twice for grail.

Sloosh, switch to me
Rayn switch to me
Sylencia switch to me
Ritoky -- i know you're a boss and all that, but please put your faith in me.

Thanks for listening <3

On September 06 2014 23:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Oats, please put your faith in my for the grail. It's basically between me, ritoky (who said he's not gonna be around today/tomorrow) and geript. Please trust good sir. I am town. I will not let you, or any other townie, down.

and only much later, he pushes for the grail.

Therefore, there is no contradiction.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 14:24 GMT
#1480
On September 10 2014 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik has been hardpushing himself for grail since the beginning of the game no?


No. He have only made 1 statement about why he wants the grail before that quote I quoted.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 14:26 GMT
#1481
Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.

[/QUOTE]

Basically, I have a prediction on what is going to happen on n3 and it will lead to these 3 being scum.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 14:35 GMT
#1483
On September 10 2014 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
why do you think sloosh and ritoky are mafia?
and what do you mean by mafia "saving soup"?


They can always not soup someone until n4 or even n5 as long as they don't feel like they are in any immediate pressure.
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 14:37 GMT
#1484
Let me ask you some questions instead:
Do you think both the mafia were voting for you?
Do you think sylencia the mafia will vote on geript the town/mafia for 2 days straight?
Do you think oats the mafia will 'throw away' his votes and complain about people throwing away votes?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 10 2014 15:24 GMT
#1486
On September 10 2014 23:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2014 23:37 HaruRH wrote:
Let me ask you some questions instead:
Do you think both the mafia were voting for you?

I thought so but not anymore.
Show nested quote +
Do you think sylencia the mafia will vote on geript the town/mafia for 2 days straight?

I don't think Sylencia is mafia so i do not understand the question.
Show nested quote +
Do you think oats the mafia will 'throw away' his votes and complain about people throwing away votes?

yes he could.

why are you asking me questions if you do not think i am mafia?


I felt bored answering questions so I decided I will answer your questions by making you answer my questions
Basically, your answer leads to my answer lol

Btw, those were assumptions. IF sylencia was mafia, would he vote geript 2 days straight?

Maybe the question on the second part was not helping me answer you lol
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HaruRH
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September 10 2014 16:11 GMT
#1488
On September 11 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If geript was town then why not? If geript was mafia i doubt he would.
Could you now tell me why you think Sloosh and ritoky are scum and why Koshi was town?


Koshi could be town. I don't know exactly if he was town or not, so i am parking him under the 'wildcard' section, alongside anyone who gets lynched.

I also like to think that scum won't vote together in this kind of game since information is scarce and it works better to vote differently. Therefore, i analysed every wagon and compared the remainder to decide who was scum or not.

Geript is obv scum.
Sloosh and damdred were the first comparison i made. Sloosh came out worse whereas damdred gave up. And town damdred gives up easily. Damdred, when scum, never gave up despite the odds.
Second comparison was between ritoky and you. I was less inclined to call you mafia and ritoky have not been doing crap this game. Normally, when he rolls town (like all the game he played), he puts in tremendous effort, which can be seen by his vote analysis, etc. But none so far. Probably because he rolled scum.
Oats is not someone i am willing to read further.

I thus came to a conclusion that scum had to lie between oats, ritoky, sloosh, geript, koshi. The way oats was oblivious to this game literally made me call him town. Therefore, geript, sloosh, ritoky is my lynch order.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 10 2014 18:09 GMT
#1499
4 more hours.
Guys we need 2 more on geript.
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HaruRH
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September 12 2014 05:51 GMT
#1679
On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
well this guy is softing my role pretty hard anywayz, and if he hard claims it then it is gg, win for town. it's worth coming out anywayz since i have a red check independent of the guy fake-claiming a red check on me.

i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated HaruRH and he is RED.

we didn't get a shot last night, which means that either koshi/oats was confirmed mafia or one of them was exorcist. Damdred is faking a red check on me it seems, which would make him confirmed mafia, and haru as another mafia. if we got one in oats/koshi then it's a wrap unless the remaining one after the lynch today soup chains us all.

i checked geript because i read robik as town and they were butting heads hardcore. he turned up green and you will plainly see me sheeping and calling geript town nonstop yesterday.

i didn't think syl was my acolyte, i was wrong. i flipped shit and almost lynched him because his play was so atrocious that i couldn't believe he could possibly be my acolyte; and even if he was he could have bread crumbed to me. luckily he didn't do it enough to warrant me getting souped before i got off a red check.

i checked haru because i didn't like his burst of activity only when accused of being mafia, and i wanted to start narrowing down the lurkers in the game. turns out one of them was mafia.

lynch damdred and haru in any order and we win the game.

i was tempted to come out yesterday as well when damdred did the same thing softing my role when he did the "i read rayn's filter and flipped my read"; i wrote it off as a one time thing, then he proceeded to do nothing last phase and softed it again with the exact same line on me. he is fake claiming inquis, lynch him.

if an oracle was on me n1, we can really solve this game as the wraith was on me n1 so we will know if koshi was mafia or not for certain.


i laughed hard when i saw this post.
Since you're forcing me to claim here,

I am the exorcist.

i could not kill yesterday. It meant that either oats or koshi was scum. I was pretty shocked. And because ritoky scumclaimed,

##Vote:ritoky

I knew something was wrong with your play. It certainly wasn't the town|ritoky that i always played with.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 06:05 GMT
#1684
On September 12 2014 14:58 geript wrote:
I'm not even sure why you thought that him red checking you forces you to claim.

My role is pretty useless for the next 2 days anyway (because i am 10p% sure ritoky is the scum here and lynching him would make my exorcist role be useless for 2 days since it will always return (you cannot kill this night)).
I'll rather lynch a mafia and get killed myself.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 06:17 GMT
#1687
Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Now that i was forced to claim, i can finally reveal the results of my exorcist. I couldn't kill. It meant that either oats or koshi was scum (i bolded them).

Next, i am 10000000% sure ritoky is mafia. I am willing to bet anything in this earth. And because he also tried to call out damdred, i am willing to townread him for a bit.

There. Game solved. Lynch ritoky today and geript tomorrow and we win. I was right about ritoky.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 06:25 GMT
#1688
Rayn, i am so fucking sure ritoky is mafia. Even more sure than if i copchecked him. I am also pretty fucking sure geript is scum. More sure than onegu in N&T. You literally have to trust me once more. If i am wrong, i can let you all ignore me in all future mafia games. I am that sure i got 2 scum here.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 14:39 GMT
#1710
This is not how it works rayn.

Exorcist: If a member of town has been lynched on two consecutive days, you can kill a player of your choosing the following night.


I can't shoot unless 2 towns are lynched consecutively. This means unless we lynch a town today, i have a chance to shoot (i was not able to shoot because either oats or koshi OR aots and koshi are mafia) provided oats was town (so oats lynch into a town lynch allows me to shoot). Also, no lynch =/= town lynched.

Also, we ARE in lylo. It is 6 town:2 mafia. Given that they got a role of someone on d1 from gobble's save and my claim, they have 2 soup and 1 kill at night. A mislynch here will lead to 2 town:2 mafia.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:25 GMT
#1719
Ok, so maybe i did fuck up and cclaimd for no reason at all.
But this is good because angels know not to protect me and my exorcist role tells me one of koshi or oats is mafia, so we can stop guessing if we did actually hit mafia d1/2 and concentrate on finding the last mafia (which is geript).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 16:26 GMT
#1720
On September 13 2014 01:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 23:39 HaruRH wrote:
This is not how it works rayn.

Exorcist: If a member of town has been lynched on two consecutive days, you can kill a player of your choosing the following night.


I can't shoot unless 2 towns are lynched consecutively. This means unless we lynch a town today, i have a chance to shoot (i was not able to shoot because either oats or koshi OR aots and koshi are mafia) provided oats was town (so oats lynch into a town lynch allows me to shoot). Also, no lynch =/= town lynched.

Also, we ARE in lylo. It is 6 town:2 mafia. Given that they got a role of someone on d1 from gobble's save and my claim, they have 2 soup and 1 kill at night. A mislynch here will lead to 2 town:2 mafia.


I thought you claimed Judge.
FTR Koshi's alignment does not matter regarding your role because he was not lynched but shot by the Judge instead.


Read his flip again. He was lynched. LYNCHED.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:28 GMT
#1723
On September 07 2014 18:44 Palmar wrote:
A Lynch has been selected:

Koshi has been lynched


Also, even if koshi's flip does not count and oats flip is the only flip counted, it doesnt make sense for me to receive a 'not allowed to kill' message. It only means that there wasn't 2 town lynched in a row.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:30 GMT
#1725
Rayn. I need you to talk to me now. Tell me who is the last mafia. I will not be around during lylo (or they might just keep me alive since my role is useless for the next 2 days) but just in case, who is your last scum read?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 16:33 GMT
#1727
On September 13 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case there is only 2 mafia left it's either yamato or geript.


D4 will still be lylo so you must make up your mind on who is the real scum. I am going with geript because at end of d2, he said some scummy stuff. Brb quoting them
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:39 GMT
#1730
On September 11 2014 04:52 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 04:19 slOosh wrote:
On September 11 2014 04:09 geript wrote:
On September 11 2014 04:02 slOosh wrote:
Order matters from my perspective because I need to figure out if you are town or scum in the way you are trying to deflect the lynch. Could you tell me your strongest scum read sans Syl regardless of viability of lynch? Or could you explain to me why Syl is scum and why we should all be lynching him.

Order doesn't matter. It's silly to think that at this point. It's essentially a mylo situation here because of soup. Perhaps you should realize that my current view is Oats/Harurh/Damdred. If you think I'm mafia, find a single game where as mafia I have been able to make 10 pages by after 72 hours. You won't find a single one. I can't keep up that activity as mafia. I can do it for 24 or so but past that I've never done it.

Order in the sense of which one of them are you most confident of your scum read on. I mean who knows scum's soup skill level and more so if it is those three since it seems they are all playing this setup for first time. I'll be checking your filter in meantime. Do you still think Syl is mafia?

My first would be Harurh, second would be Damdred.


On September 11 2014 04:09 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 04:02 slOosh wrote:
Order matters from my perspective because I need to figure out if you are town or scum in the way you are trying to deflect the lynch. Could you tell me your strongest scum read sans Syl regardless of viability of lynch? Or could you explain to me why Syl is scum and why we should all be lynching him.

Order doesn't matter. It's silly to think that at this point. It's essentially a mylo situation here because of soup. Perhaps you should realize that my current view is Oats/Harurh/Damdred. If you think I'm mafia, find a single game where as mafia I have been able to make 10 pages by after 72 hours. You won't find a single one. I can't keep up that activity as mafia. I can do it for 24 or so but past that I've never done it.


"I am the most confident that haru is scum, then damdred"
"Lynch order does not matter because it is mylo"

Do you see the big difference in what he have said? Basically, it is scummy because he MUST always go for his most confident lynch. What i gather from his end of d2 discussion is that he was willing to lynch anyone in haru/damdred/oats even if he was more confident in one read over the other. Worse off, who lynches someone he is not as confident in during mylo? That is pure scummery right here.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 16:42 GMT
#1732
On September 13 2014 01:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 01:33 HaruRH wrote:
On September 13 2014 01:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In case there is only 2 mafia left it's either yamato or geript.


D4 will still be lylo so you must make up your mind on who is the real scum. I am going with geript because at end of d2, he said some scummy stuff. Brb quoting them

If we are @ 6-2 it's gonna be 6-1 at night start.
4-1 at day start because you and Damdred will die.
It's not LYLO,


Did you forget the initial role they got because gobble protected someone?
Palmar have stated that witches will STILL get the role info of the person they targeted even if gobble blocked the kill because of necro.
Basically, if witches aimed you but gobble blocked it, they still got your role and still can soup you.

So it is 3-1. Lylo.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:46 GMT
#1736
On September 13 2014 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's true.
Unless they hit gobble, Sylencia or Oats N1. (the last two are extremely unlike though).
Hitting gobble makes some sense.


Hitting gobble made no sense because 1) gobble have to die anyway or we will lynch him 2) they can target someone else and get a role to soup, WHILE having gobble dead.

We have to play on the assumption that their d1 target is still alive, making it lylo. This should be the best plan.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 16:48 GMT
#1737
On September 13 2014 01:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And if mafia hit yamato or geript it's only a win.


But they can decide not to soup everyone. They might only soup damdred and i for claiming and may not soup the last guy for an illusion of not being in lylo.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:53 GMT
#1741
On September 13 2014 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well it doesn't make sense to NOT soup two players on N2 in case their N1 target is alive.


Who are the 2 players then?
I can see how they were worried that syl may not be an acolyte after all and decided to kill him. Also, given how ritoky have been pushing me, dam and syl on d1, they probably tried to kill others and got a role off someone.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:57 GMT
#1744
On September 13 2014 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like why would you not kill two players if you can (i mean on N2, N3 makes sense as you said it)? Especially when they hit someone on N1 -- preferrably someone who is on the right track.


In this game where you need the exact role info to soup, they might not have souped them to either : 1) leave them alive for more confusion (aka yamato vs geript) or 2) deemed their role too useless and can leave them alive since they pose threars.
For eg, if they got the role of the cop, they would 100% soup them right away. Or if they got my role, they would soup me on d3 so i cannot indirectly disclose how many mafia were left.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 16:57 GMT
#1745
EBWOP: since they pose no threat.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 17:01 GMT
#1746
For eg rayn, as scum, would you either:

Go into a 2-1 lylo with 1 town looking scummy

Or

Go into 4-1 lylo (1 soup) with 2 scummy looking town?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 17:29 GMT
#1752
On September 13 2014 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 01:53 HaruRH wrote:
On September 13 2014 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well it doesn't make sense to NOT soup two players on N2 in case their N1 target is alive.


Who are the 2 players then?
I can see how they were worried that syl may not be an acolyte after all and decided to kill him. Also, given how ritoky have been pushing me, dam and syl on d1, they probably tried to kill others and got a role off someone.

I am pretty sure Sylencia was souped. Why would you not soup someone when you can as it goes through angel protection?
That's also why they could have souped gobbly on N1. What if Koshi is town and protected someone? They won't even get a kill off and that's a disaster.

If Koshi was town then it's more likely gobbly was just souped rather than mafia hitting someone.


no, gobble definitely saved someone from dying. It is even stated in his role that he will die a heroic death and it will be known.
The only problem is who he saved.
Syl's death doesn't matter because he is not a living dead (like damdred and i, since we are going to die anyway)
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 17:31 GMT
#1753
Your heroic death will be made obvious.

On September 08 2014 07:04 Palmar wrote:
gobbledydook has died a heroic death as he saved the life of a fellow villager

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 18:40 GMT
#1783
Geript if you're town then you should feel bad for making those posts
Those posts are stuff that make you shudder when you walk along the road, remembering bad and embarrassing memories.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 18:44 GMT
#1784
On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated 1)geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated 2)HaruRH and he is RED.

[QUOTE]On September 12 2014 12:18 ritoky wrote:
[QUOTE]On September 12 2014 12:17 Damdred wrote:
No Yamato answer the original question as mafia fake claiming why would I go for super aggressive rot who obviously can destroy me this game vs someone like lm or get who had a ton of pressure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On September 12 2014 12:19 ritoky wrote:
like it's blatantly clear to me that 3)you saw i investigated you through the demon power, and formulated a fake claim. if it was a real red check you would have just come out with it instead of your teasing/half-assed claim. this claim is a joke.

lynch dam and haru, and it's probably gg. hopefully there's not 3.[/QUOTE]

I counted 3, geript.



It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 18:48 GMT
#1788
On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated 1)geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated 2)HaruRH and he is RED.


On September 12 2014 12:19 ritoky wrote:
like it's blatantly clear to me that 3)you saw i investigated you through the demon power, and formulated a fake claim. if it was a real red check you would have just come out with it instead of your teasing/half-assed claim. this claim is a joke.

lynch dam and haru, and it's probably gg. hopefully there's not 3.

I counted 3, geript.

Even if you had no idea who ritoky was replying to, you would know that he was replying to damdred, who claimed cop. And neither did you nor me claim cop, so ritoky investigated someone else????

D1: geript green
D2: haru red

Damdred's demon power caught him investigating damdred... when? D1? D2?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
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September 12 2014 18:49 GMT
#1791
On September 13 2014 03:45 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 03:40 HaruRH wrote:
Geript if you're town then you should feel bad for making those posts
Those posts are stuff that make you shudder when you walk along the road, remembering bad and embarrassing memories.

Sorry HaruRH but you're wrong a CC for reaction is good play there. It's best to come from Rayn due to the green check. Plus I have smaller balls and a bigger brain than Mocsta.


Mocsta won as scum but you aren't.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 18:51 GMT
#1793
On September 13 2014 03:49 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 03:48 Damdred wrote:
Why would I cc haru? I'm inquisitor

No. Rayn was supposed to CC HaruRH. How is that not clear?


What's the point of him ccing me? So you can have an easy win?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 18:52 GMT
#1797
On September 13 2014 03:51 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 03:49 HaruRH wrote:
On September 13 2014 03:45 geript wrote:
On September 13 2014 03:40 HaruRH wrote:
Geript if you're town then you should feel bad for making those posts
Those posts are stuff that make you shudder when you walk along the road, remembering bad and embarrassing memories.

Sorry HaruRH but you're wrong a CC for reaction is good play there. It's best to come from Rayn due to the green check. Plus I have smaller balls and a bigger brain than Mocsta.


Mocsta won as scum but you aren't.

I haven't lost as scum thank you very much.


Thanks for the 70% winrate you shall grant to me
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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September 12 2014 18:53 GMT
#1798
On September 13 2014 03:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript tell me how at the same time (1) Damdred's check on me makes me the best person to reactiontest Haru by fakeclaiming and (2) you don't know if ritoky is mafia or not?

Dude you got caught. game solved.


HAHAHAHA SOLVED
Geript and ritoky please surrender.
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HaruRH
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September 12 2014 18:55 GMT
#1800
On September 09 2014 12:28 HaruRH wrote:
ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.



Btw quoting this for end game cred.
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September 12 2014 19:01 GMT
#1807
On September 13 2014 03:48 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated 1)geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated 2)HaruRH and he is RED.


Show nested quote +
On September 12 2014 12:19 ritoky wrote:
like it's blatantly clear to me that 3)you saw i investigated you through the demon power, and formulated a fake claim. if it was a real red check you would have just come out with it instead of your teasing/half-assed claim. this claim is a joke.

lynch dam and haru, and it's probably gg. hopefully there's not 3.

I counted 3, geript.

Even if you had no idea who ritoky was replying to, you would know that he was replying to damdred, who claimed cop. And neither did you nor me claim cop, so ritoky investigated someone else????

D1: geript green
D2: haru red

Damdred's demon power caught him investigating damdred... when? D1? D2?


Hey geript how bout you explain why this does not make ritoky confirmed mafia
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HaruRH
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September 12 2014 19:14 GMT
#1819
On September 13 2014 04:05 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 04:01 HaruRH wrote:
On September 13 2014 03:48 HaruRH wrote:
On September 12 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote:
i am the inquisitor, on night 1 i investigated 1)geript and he is green, on night 2 i investigated 2)HaruRH and he is RED.


On September 12 2014 12:19 ritoky wrote:
like it's blatantly clear to me that 3)you saw i investigated you through the demon power, and formulated a fake claim. if it was a real red check you would have just come out with it instead of your teasing/half-assed claim. this claim is a joke.

lynch dam and haru, and it's probably gg. hopefully there's not 3.

I counted 3, geript.

Even if you had no idea who ritoky was replying to, you would know that he was replying to damdred, who claimed cop. And neither did you nor me claim cop, so ritoky investigated someone else????

D1: geript green
D2: haru red

Damdred's demon power caught him investigating damdred... when? D1? D2?


Hey geript how bout you explain why this does not make ritoky confirmed mafia

FUCKING READ WHAT I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN. IN TH ENGLISH LANGUAGE, THE PRONOUN "YOU" IS UNSPECIFIC; AS A MATTER OF FACT IT'S ONE OF THE WORST FUCKING PRONOUNS TO USE. IT IS GENDER NEUTRAL AND BOTH SINGULAR OR PLURAL (UNLESS YOU'RE IN THE FUCKING SOUTH WHERE I LIVE AND WE USE "YA'LL" SPORADICALLY). I CAN SEE SOMEONE IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT USING "YOU" INSTEAD OF "YOUR PARTNER" OR "HARURH" OR WHATEVER ELSE BECAUSE YOU THINK LESS AND TYPE MORE WHEN YOU'RE FUCKING MAD.
RTFT


Uh so lets get this clear.

Sylencia, gobble, dam and i were the only ones who claimed.
Syl and gobble flipped town.

And then, this happens:

Timeline:
Ritoky&dam claims cop ----- rit posts that ------i claim----> now

So who was he targetting at that point in time? His scum partner who have yet to claim? Or syl/gobble?

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 19:19 GMT
#1824
In fact, let's pretend ritoky used "HaruRH", "your partner" instead.

HaruRH saw i investigated you through the demon power, and formulated a fake claim. 


Yea... no. I have not claimed yet.

your partner saw i investigated you through the demon power, and formulated a fake claim. 


Hmm... still nope. His "partner" whom claimed would either have to be sylencia (who got souped or killed by witch) or gobble (who already proved he was town) so....?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 19:26 GMT
#1831
Also, since ritoky claimed that dam's partner caught him investigating either of them (lets pretend its me), this happens:

D1: geript green
D2: haru red

Damdred's demon power caught him investigating damdred/his partner.... and? Damdred claims when his partner got a supposed red check? So damdred outs himself for no fucking reason? Hue.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 19:32 GMT
#1836
On September 13 2014 04:30 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 04:26 HaruRH wrote:
Also, since ritoky claimed that dam's partner caught him investigating either of them (lets pretend its me), this happens:

D1: geript green
D2: haru red

Damdred's demon power caught him investigating damdred/his partner.... and? Damdred claims when his partner got a supposed red check? So damdred outs himself for no fucking reason? Hue.

Anyone with half a brain and any fucking experience would know that even if ritoky is mafia, I am in no way confirmed mafia. I'm not even close to it. At best it's wifom.

The real question HaruRH: Fucking explain why I actually care to get a lynch off on D2. Explain how me actually trying to lynch scum on D2 makes me mafia. You can't. It's not possible. Because if I'm mafia I just fucking lurk and let the judge do whatever the fucking judge is going to do or get to learn that the judge is dead so I don't misguess on soup.


So you can say this now
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 19:34 GMT
#1838
Also, given how geript crapped about being involved in lynching oats, i guess koshi was the scum that stopped me from shooting.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 19:38 GMT
#1842
Scum gave up.

Yawn. What an easy game. I was 2/3 right on my analysis. Now nobody can laugh at it ever again. SUCK IT ROBIK I SOLVED THE GAME
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 19:40 GMT
#1844
On September 13 2014 04:39 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 04:38 HaruRH wrote:
Scum gave up.

Yawn. What an easy game. I was 2/3 right on my analysis. Now nobody can laugh at it ever again. SUCK IT ROBIK I SOLVED THE GAME

lol


You're only allowed to lol at post game when you shudder at its majesty.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 20:13 GMT
#1866
On September 13 2014 05:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And for the record voting Damdred in this situation is the stupidest thing anyone can do regardless of if you think he is mafia or not.

The first one to tell me why gets 100 town points.


Let me guess
If he votes damdred, he thinks ritoky is the real cop, but isn't voting the red check that the cop he thinks is real have gotten.
So essentially he should be voting me or ritoky right now.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 20:18 GMT
#1870
On September 13 2014 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:07 geript wrote:
On September 13 2014 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
geript why are you voting for Damdred instead of Haru?
you should have enough brain to figure out why you should be voting for Haru instead if you think they are mafia.

Because if Harurh is mafia, then he is mafia with Damdred. Of those two, Damdred is the more lynchable currently.


No. In case you think Haru and Damdred are mafia you lynch Haru first.

Then you tell the angel chat to protect the real cop the next night (because angels get to know the cop checks). Then you tell the oracle to visit either of Damdred/ritoky because then the oracle knows for sure which one is scum the next day if the game goes on.

That way there is even a possibility of figuring out which one of the cop claims is correct in case you have been wrong and in case the oracle is alive.


Problem is, we still have yet to factor in that this could be a mylo because they had a check d1 that they might have yet to soup, combined with damdred and i's claim, they can kill 4 people at n3. They don't necessarily have to shoot dam and can shoot any random living town to win by souping 3 and killing 1.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 20:35 GMT
#1874
Ah. I was under the impression that scum can both kill and soup at the same time.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 20:43 GMT
#1876
I GOT A MORE BRILLIANT PLAN.

If we make the crusader out himself and we lynch him, then make him kill ritoky, i may also get a free shot out to geript since oats may be town and a crusader town lynch allows me to shoot.
This way, if i don't shoot and die, we know that oats was 100% scum and if i shoot, we hopefully win. If not, it will be a 2-1 lylo and rayn is guaranteed to be there.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 20:50 GMT
#1882
On September 13 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LoneMeow
HaruRH
raynpelikoneet
geript
slOosh
yamato77
Damdred
ritoky

8 alive. Let's say i am the crusader and get lynched. i shoot ritoky.
5-1. You shoot geript and he is town.
4-1. Mafia soups 3. ggnore.

Hmm i guess you're right.
But if geript is not the last scum, i have no idea who is the last scum. Its like

Scum------------------------ not scum

Ritoky> geript>>>>>>> everyone else

For me.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 21:01 GMT
#1896
On September 13 2014 05:52 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 05:50 HaruRH wrote:
On September 13 2014 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LoneMeow
HaruRH
raynpelikoneet
geript
slOosh
yamato77
Damdred
ritoky

8 alive. Let's say i am the crusader and get lynched. i shoot ritoky.
5-1. You shoot geript and he is town.
4-1. Mafia soups 3. ggnore.

Hmm i guess you're right.
But if geript is not the last scum, i have no idea who is the last scum. Its like

Scum------------------------ not scum

Ritoky> geript>>>>>>> everyone else

For me.

how can you possibly have strong townreads on sloosh and LM

dude

posts like these are why I'm so hesitant to believe the claim


When did i even mention i had strong townreads on sloosh and lonemeow (when i even listed sloosh as scum until my exorcist pm came in)? It just shows that i scumread them to such a large extent that the scumminess of the rest does not show anymore.

If i put it in number form, it would be like...
- = more scummy + = less scummy
-1000 ritoky
-750 geript
-50 sloosh
+10 LM
+50 yamato
+100 rayn
+100 damdred

If ritoky did not mention a red check on me, i might have a tough decision between damdred and ritoky. BUT, he decided i to "red check" me and thus scum claimed. Also, my exorcist pm tells me there is only 2 mafia left, so i am only interested to find 2, which happens to be geript and ritoky.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 12 2014 21:06 GMT
#1901
On September 13 2014 06:03 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2014 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 13 2014 05:59 yamato77 wrote:
is there a world where haru and ritoky are both mafia?

Not really, no. It's to complicated and i doubt i could myself make a plan like that on the fly when someone claims a red check on you.

he did take quite a while to post his claim post

meh

haru looks really bad IMO


PROBABLY BECAUSE HARU HAPPENED TO BE ASLEEP???
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 13 2014 10:37 GMT
#1933
Lol I'm here.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 16 2014 22:09 GMT
#2069
I begged everyone to kill ritoky. End of story.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 16 2014 22:14 GMT
#2073
On September 17 2014 07:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:09 HaruRH wrote:
I begged everyone to kill ritoky. End of story.

When he faked a red check on you?
dude.. weak.


Way before the red check.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 16 2014 22:36 GMT
#2079
Well, this brings me to an official 70% win rate, 7/10.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 16 2014 22:43 GMT
#2081
On September 17 2014 07:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:36 HaruRH wrote:
Well, this brings me to an official 70% win rate, 7/10.

you failed in this game.

I failed in claiming credit for catching ritoky when you all were calling him town jesus.
But all in all, stop rolling me blue. I have 5/10 blue games now.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 16 2014 22:49 GMT
#2083
On September 17 2014 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
no you literally claimed when there was 0 reason to claim.

see. 0.

zero.
ZERO!

There was reasons stated why i claimed.
You should probably read that first?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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