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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 02 2014 13:10 GMT
#10
My schedule have been less taxing for these few weeks, so I think I can
/in
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:30 GMT
#83
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:33 GMT
#85
So here's the real question: how town are you right now robik
Prove it to me
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:43 GMT
#87
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 22:47 GMT
#88
Also,
In the event of a tie, the Witches will decide who holds the Grail.

We must 100% choose someone and bot leave it up to witches.

The bearer of the holy grail will almost certainly die on d2 and the matyr should definitely try to save the bearer.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 23:01 GMT
#90
If the bearer of the Holy Grail dies, the Holy Grail leaves the game.


Like which scum won't kill the 2 vote item thing?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 23:16 GMT
#107
On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes


So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.


Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 03 2014 23:31 GMT
#130
On September 04 2014 08:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 08:21 slOosh wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:20 geript wrote:
On September 04 2014 08:14 Koshi wrote:
HaruRH, if you believe that Koshi or rayn are the most important people.
and
if you believe scum will kill the grail owner.
why
do you want to give the grail to Koshi or rayn?

I like this point. HarURH is my second lynch of choice currently.

Please explain in your words why HaruRH is likely to be scum.

Look at how he's approaching the grail. It's a very odd series of thoughts; more importantly, it's far less likely to come from town that "X and Y are super important for town to win, let's give X and Y the grail" without any questions as to whether or not they're actually town. Plus the "grail bearer is going to die automatically, so lets give it to X and Y important people" isn't exactly a logical thought process.


Wrong
I meant that they should get it because they won't waste the grail power on some dick measuring contest that robik will actively participate in, nor lurk to high heavens

Die automatically? So matyr role is fake?
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 13:56 GMT
#314
On September 04 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
easy game lynch into:

LoneMeow
HaruRH
gobbledydook
slOosh
Sylencia
Damdred

sure win ^^


This is the 4th game in a row that rayn scumreads me on d1. I turned out town on all (except heavyweight).
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 13:59 GMT
#315
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:01 GMT
#319
On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?


How was the conclusion dumb?
It was so simple: Let one of the towniest person take the grail, make a matyr defend him at all cost, get 2 day's worth of free town 2 votes.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:24 GMT
#328
On September 04 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 23:01 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?


How was the conclusion dumb?
It was so simple: Let one of the towniest person take the grail, make a matyr defend him at all cost, get 2 day's worth of free town 2 votes.

So was i one of the towniest person (you said me or Koshi should have it) when i had made zero posts?

one of the people who can use the vote wise enough not to afk or impulse lynch someone
but now I take that back
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:25 GMT
#330
On September 04 2014 23:10 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 22:59 HaruRH wrote:
Btw, anyone who townreads me on d1 are scum. Literally all my games came out as such.
Or they are trying to hardpush me.

But with you saying this, you might actaully be scum

that's not how it works robik and you know it
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:26 GMT
#332
On September 04 2014 23:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I wouldn't mind lynching slOosh. There's a distinct lack of direction in his filter, the questions seem to lack followup for the most part and he's happy talking about things that aren't related to scum hunting at all.

Also there's gems like this:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 14:09 slOosh wrote:
Ok this is nonsense what's going on so I'm gonna shut it down independent of Oats' actual alignment.

Oats is posturing into a position where he is blaming people and saying that they aren't scumhunting. Realize that this itself isn't scumhunting. You tell me what Oats has done to scum hunt. Nothing. That question at this point is total bogus.

Not only that his actions are shutting down potentially good town discussion of setup. While in normal games setup talk is something scum favor because it is safe to do, this is a unique theme game, and setup talk can be very pro town. The discussion of actions, even if we don't arrive at a consensus, is a great means of developing information and reads.

Oats, now to you specifically, this game is unique theme. Don't just port over heuristics lazily and pretend you are all that. If you have specific things you want to grill me on, then go ahead, but I'm asking you to change your current approach of pointing fingers at everyone.


...which is kinda like accusing Oatsmaster without actually calling him scum.

It's more like he is saving this post so that he can use it to vote on oats when his wagon comes up, and link this post, stating how he already scumread oats etc.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#334
On September 04 2014 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 23:24 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:01 HaruRH wrote:
On September 04 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing you have talked about is the holy grail discussion which in your conclusion was incedibly dumb.
Yes i think that makes you.. at least not town.
Why should i townread you?


How was the conclusion dumb?
It was so simple: Let one of the towniest person take the grail, make a matyr defend him at all cost, get 2 day's worth of free town 2 votes.

So was i one of the towniest person (you said me or Koshi should have it) when i had made zero posts?

one of the people who can use the vote wise enough not to afk or impulse lynch someone
but now I take that back

but you just said you wanted the towniest person to have it.
which is not what you said at the beginning.

makes sense how?

Lets break it down, shall we

Is the towniest person going to afk and waste the 2 vote? probably not.
Is the towniest person going to abuse his rights to have 2 votes? No.
Is the towniest person then able to make sound decision on who to vote? Yes.
So is the person wise enough to use the double vote the towniest person? Yes.

Note: if you're going to mix up towniest, as in towniest of town before the game even started (eg: hf) and towniest of town after the game started (eg:me) then obviously you're confusing yourself.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:05 GMT
#547
On September 05 2014 20:43 Koshi wrote:
LM/HaruRH/gobble


for endgame cred.


Wrong.
Try again.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:10 GMT
#549
I thought the notebook idea sucked so i decided not to use it.
Robik still haven't convinced me he is town yet. I am waiting.
Koshi, stop lying about wanting to post lesser. You know it won't happen and it only makes people suspicious of you. Where is the 'i am the town lord' koshi? Or are you scum?
Sylencia... wtf? Souping me? Are you trying to figure out my role or have you?
Oats... i feel the singaporean from you. We both are confusing for stupid americans.
Yamato -afk lord
Geript is missing. Where is he?

I'm not interested in talk about the rest yet.
Meanwhile, i am ghostly because i am busy. But i will have sudden spikes in activity when I'm free. Start asking me questions.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:23 GMT
#551
On September 05 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.


Did you even read the voting thread
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 12:56 GMT
#554
On September 05 2014 21:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 21:23 HaruRH wrote:
On September 05 2014 21:16 Koshi wrote:
Can you trow down a vote? Grail or deadline.


Did you even read the voting thread

You vote in the voting thread but not mention it in your reads post.

Last question: What do you think about gobble?

was i supposed to put my vote here too? no.

I would say that scum gobble is wayyyyy more lurky than this. I know because I played with both town and scum gobble.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 05 2014 13:44 GMT
#560
On September 04 2014 21:06 Sylencia wrote:
Haru is town. Can't explain in too much detail without souping Haru. I am pretty certain I'm seeing the ideal situation and disagree with Koshi's statement about not seeing the big picture.

Null:
yamato - call out with no reasoning. Impossible to say anything about it
damdred - 1 post
rayn - 1 post
lonemeow - not in yet

I'm extremely conflicted about Oats. I hate the fact he called sloosh and koshi scum without any reasoning - and still without explaining why he called it out in the first place. His case against sloosh is pretty paper thin and I disagree with his interpretation of sloosh's posts. My interpretation is that the Oracle, Inquisitor and Wraith do what they think is best in terms of both finding the best time to reveal and expose themselves to soup, and in addition who they target. All of us, including the mentioned roles should (at some point closer to deadline more likely) put in suggestions as to who are the ideal target(s). Obviously we can wait for sloosh to come back to smooth things out a bit, but I feel like Oats is just cherry picking the part that makes sloosh look the worse and ignoring everything around it. Main reason why I'm conflicted is because the way Oats has been playing is classic town Oats and some high percentage of games (I think) end up with Oats being mislynched D1 because of it -_-

IAmRobik - pretty townie, can't see scum seeing the gobble grail vote reasoning before being told about it. I wouldn't ever hammer over this alone, but it's definitely a strike against gobble

Gobble is null-scum - Until I think about it later, something gives me a bad feeling about the initial planning post (regarding Inquis/Oracle visiting the same person) - like it feels like a plan to stifle the information we get from the Inquisitor in order to get Oracle views, which I think is pretty average N1. Then there's the case from Robik which I still think is still decent, but as I said, it's not solid enough evidence.

Scum team prediction so far: 1 of the players who haven't posted more than once or twice, oats and gobble.

It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
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