Season of the Witch Mafia - Page 3

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 06 2014 20:50 GMT

#922

HolyGrail Votecount:
Geript (3) - Koshi, geript, raynpelikoneet
Ritoky (4) - ritoky, gobbeldydook, HaruRH, Sylencia
Yamato77 (1) - Yamato77
IAmRobik (4) - IAmRobik, LoneMeow, SloOsh, Damdred

geript is conf. scum. He suggests I vote for rayn/koshi when neither of them are up in contender for grail. And he is using it as a basis for scumread. HI-LARI-OUS

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 06 2014 20:51 GMT

#923

On September 07 2014 05:47 IAmRobik wrote:
That Haru vote is so bad. It's such a throwaway vote onto geript when we're 1hr from EOD and Rayn/Damdred are the top 2 wagons

Why you so mad? It's quite obvious we cannot reach majority and the guy with the blue role to force lynch will do it for us.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 06 2014 20:52 GMT

#924

Judge: If there is no majority for a lynch at the end of the day, you may decide on your own who to lynch.

Like I hope you realise this guy existed

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 06 2014 20:57 GMT

#928

Robik do you enjoy playing this game?

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 06 2014 21:06 GMT

#939

On September 07 2014 06:02 slOosh wrote:
And we should all vote as if judge did not exist. Voting patterns are useful and using the judge as a catch all lets scum vote wherever they feel like and avoid discussion.

That's a good idea. I suggest we lynch geript.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 08 2014 06:54 GMT

#1040

On September 08 2014 13:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

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pfft, im not that dumb.
What kinda idiot claims judge by lynching someone that was only pushed by him??

haru feels like scum from the throwaway vote in majority lynch.

I think rayn will either be useful or useless and we can make a more accurate decision later in the game, no reason to lynch him when there are dudes like damdred, syl, haru, LM
actually you know what, LM is scum.
didnt vote.
Doesnt follow up on questions.
Only talks about one dude in any form of detail and this is nothing like his town play.

LYNCH!
##vote LM
if we dont actually iml at least once this game, I will be very sad.

the fuck?
So geript's vote on me is not a throwaway, while my vote on him is throwaway?
Even when i explained why his vote on me is dumb and the reasoning sucked?

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 08 2014 06:57 GMT

#1041

On September 07 2014 05:42 HaruRH wrote:

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On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:

On September 07 2014 05:11 HaruRH wrote:

On September 07 2014 05:08 geript wrote:

On September 07 2014 05:06 HaruRH wrote:

On September 07 2014 05:05 geript wrote:

On September 07 2014 05:04 HaruRH wrote:
Right, so till now, geript still have yet to present a read independent of any meta references.

At this point I'm not going to. What you going to do about it hunh?

I'm going to laugh as people call me useless and call geript a useful town

That's probably because you have been completely useless this game. You're probably scum. Don't particularly care right now. I'm choosing to currently be useless because well meh, I'm tired of reading and thinking and shit.

This is a good time to use meta, geript

Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:

On September 04 2014 07:43 HaruRH wrote:
Alright let's cut to the chase and make it more readable for people who are going to join 5 hours later (and not fill 5 pages with spam)

Given the namelist right now, i feel that the holy grail should only go to either: koshi or rayn (or you can choose to give it to me :D). The rest are either too lurky or not going to use the 2 votes wisely (like robik).

We need to come up with a consensus so that the grail do not go to someone irresponsible.

Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:

On September 04 2014 08:16 HaruRH wrote:

On September 04 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:

On September 04 2014 07:30 HaruRH wrote:

On September 04 2014 07:23 gobbledydook wrote:
Forget it robik you are the last person I would want to have double votes

So friggin true it hurts

What about the game when you were medic and all of my reads were god tier. And who was the only person to clear you in the pro-am game? oh right. that's me.

Don't feel sad, maybe it's because i see value in keeping you alive over keeping both koshi and rayn alive so they can shit up the thread again on any given day

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.
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You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.
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Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious

It's simple, you went into details when you explain your meta read into gobble, giving him a supposed null read (btw, even your examples were wrong because haru didn't play in noir!

Now, you use a supposed 'meta' read that is junk because 1)robik is irresponsible, but I am not handing it over to ritoky 2) I have explained I was busy

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 08 2014 11:00 GMT

#1051

Until now, he still refuses to give any reads based on this game, but based on his horribly twisted 'meta' reads that are bent to suit his purposes. For example, the stuff I pointed out that was very inconsistent with all his reads was that he was using different parts of meta argument so that he can 'read' a person (eg. gobble) without looking like he did nothing. Next, his piss poor 'meta' read on me that called me mafia was very irritating to read because it is obviously twitsted so that he can call me mafia while having some sort of justification. He is basically playing like someone who only pulls reads out of his ass, except with bad 'meta' reads to justify. Therefore, he is skum.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 08 2014 11:04 GMT

#1052

On September 04 2014 16:04 geript wrote:

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Oats is like really not town oTsy to me. Ps I am the oats whisperer (sssshhhh don't tell Austin)
Gobbly I'm pretty solid on. He's really thread policy which he tends to be in his scum games. Plus he's not really paranoid and aggressive and analyzing things which is what I saw in his town games. But he's pretty new so I'm a little hesitant there.
Yamato for funsies. But seriously if he doesn't try to add something useful.
HaruRH I get a really weird vibe from. I haven't played with him much but I got the feels from him early on.
Robik. He's done a lot of things I've seen from his mafia play. He hasn't hard called me town yet. He's been schmoozing and generally unproductive (in an unproductive way instead of in a town Robik way).

Slowish I'm guessing is town. Sylencia might be too based on attitude. That's essentially where I'm at.

On September 05 2014 11:53 geript wrote:
Town Princess Newbie
TownWorld Heavyweight
Mafia Noir
Mafia Detention

If you look in his town games, he actually comes out with his own opinions. He forces stuff that he thinks because he finds it important. He even comes up with some good reads (e.g. his HaruRH read in Noir). I'm not really seeing that at all this game from him.

If you look in his scum games, he mostly comments on the thread rather than forcing is own thoughts and things onto people. By this I mean, he talks about things that are going on in the thread, being said, being talked about etc. He rarely forces his viewpoint and doesn't really "stick himself out there."

That's the major difference that I see. The problem is that first meta is easy to use incorrectly and second that newer players change much faster which makes meta arguments much worse. In this game, I see far, far more of the latter. He's not really pushing his opinion on anything or anyone in a strong way. That's specifically why I think he's mafia. My hesitation is that I don't have a great record using meta and he's new which makes him harder to read.

Basically the 2 things I highlighted shows how he progressively hard scumreads gobble at early d1 and then relieve some pressure off him by stating how he was newbie and shit. Horribly twisting 'meta' reads to his advantage.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 08 2014 11:09 GMT

#1053

On September 07 2014 05:23 geript wrote:

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Here's some meta. People who are completely useless on day 1 are usually scum. You've been completely useless day 1. You've asked people for reads and haven't provided any. Even your plan is complete horse shit. Let's cover said plan:

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Give Koshi/Rayn the grail. Protect them at all costs. Then of course, because that plan is so obvious and makes so much sense you decide:

Show nested quote +

So you want to give the grail to people who would use it wisely and you want to give it to people who in your words: can shit up the thread again on any given day.

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You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.

Like it's real simple. You've done nothing but talk about the grail. Because that's easy to do. You've never formed any reads whatsoever. I don't care. I don't see why other people want to lynch Rayn or Koshi over you. It's quite hilarious

I removed the pics because they are annoying.

This again shows how he tries to bend his 'meta' reads to attack me. Then, he comes along and do this horseshit:

You want to give it to someone who isn't irresponsible and you're giving it to Robik? Like the vet who's the most likely to do something irresponsible with it.

Which I already explained in my counter of this read, is stupid because the only candidates that obviously will have the grail at the end of the day are robik, yamato and geript (perhaps he is sour I did not vote for him) and I will not give the grail to yamato nor geript.

Similarly, taking out all the bullshit meta reads from his filter, all you see is talk about grail. I don't see why people think he is town.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 00:40 GMT

#1162

On September 09 2014 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch dat lm guys.
INSTANT LYNCH HIS FACE SO WE CAN GET TO THE PART WHERE EVERYONE DIES.

GOOD IDEA THEN AT LEAAT MY ROLE IS USEFUL THEN

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 03:28 GMT

#1170

ACTUALLY i thought that the judge's lynch was quite reasonable. By not targeting rayn, dam or sylencia, where mafia is definitely voting for at least one, he can let mafia think judge is between oats (for voting koshi) and rayn (they have some lame ass beef) which in fact, is most likely not true. As such, i can bet my balls (virtual balls) that mafia tried to kill rayn or oats and got blocked by gobble (this is espeically true since the necro can apparently still see the target's role, so that guy will get souped)

Since it is a given that judge lynched koshi with town intents, we can start eliminating people off the list.

Geript (2) - Sylencia, HaruRH
Sylencia (2) - ritoky, raynpelikoneet
Damdred (3) - gobbeldydook, Koshi, geript
Koshi (1) - Oatsmaster
Raynpelikoneet (5) - Yamato77, Damdred, IAmRobik, SloOsh,gobbledydook

Koshi is still a wildcard so he is bolded.
robik is town because i know for sure scumrobik will not go for the grail. He will just give excuses and lurk like mad.
gobble and i are green because gobble flipped while i am town. These are given.
Yamato is green because i trust robik's townreads more than my own.

if my analysis is correct, i predict that either oats or rayn will get souped. Mafia might try to save the soup and not soup anyone d2 too. I have different sets of scumreads according to who gets souped and if nobody gets souped. I'll save them for d3 so it doesn't help the mafia.
But, my general scumreads now are :geript, sloosh, ritoky.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 04:02 GMT

#1180

I think this game is more fun to play from a mechanical standpoint. We must first decipher what koshi's judge lynch and gobble's block does for us. Firstly,

However, if first the Soup target is incorrect, the witch will not be revealed and the message will instead read "a witch tried to kill targetname the [incorrect role] but failed".

This means that whoever gobble tried to protect have his role revealed by the necro already. Therefore, witch are given a free chance to guess roles without getting revealed (since they have a correct soup target already). So therefore, they can do something like: 1)robik is X. 2)Haru is Y. 3)(witch kill target blocked by gobble) is Z(which is correct). This is kinda bad since they get a free soup guess chain.

also, out of the 10 roles:
3 have a confirmed flip: Crusader, grandier, martyr.
4 can out themselves if they get a positive result: Inquisitor, exorcist, pope(only at lylo), pope*(when wraith haunts you, you know the identity), grandier*(when wraith haunts you, you know the identity).
2 can reveal if they are dead: judge (if a no lynch happens and there is no lynch selected, we can deduce that mafia killed judge at night), wandering wraith(he can haunt you and let you know he died).
Only acolyte is quite useless because you only get to confirm a player and when you out him, you must get ready to get him souped with you (if he is alive) and mafia can easily lie about being acolyte since they can say eg. koshi is inquisitor.

Therefore, it is crucial that the confirmed flip players do not die without flipping because every town flip helps a lot.

The game should solve itself at d3-d4. More details at d3

I like this game more and more now.

For now, I am content with the amount of info provided because of gobble's flip and the eventual soup that will confirm another town. Also, with gobble being an angel with koshi, it is more likely that the angelic protection comes from a town. From now on, I will be mostly using a mechanics point of view to do reads over than just reads based on posts (which I suck at).

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 04:03 GMT

#1181

On September 09 2014 12:47 Oatsmaster wrote:

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who gives a shit who gets souped?
Why isnt this post about the most likely scum in the game?

Souped = confirmed town flip
witch kill = confirmed town flip
lynch = not confirmed (like koshi)

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 04:04 GMT

#1183

On September 09 2014 12:34 geript wrote:

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Koshi was not a wild card. Robick would be more than willing to go for the grail just because he "wouldn't do that as mafia." He's done that as mafia like a billion and a half times.

Koshi IS a wildcard because there is no 100% confirmation he is town.
Robik will NOT be willing to go for the grail as scum. If you want to argue so, please present your meta arguments

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 04:05 GMT

#1184

On September 09 2014 13:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Haru please stop.
You can't possibly do shit unless you know how many mafia is left unless you are the Oracle in which case you're being extremely dumb because you are the most important role in the game.

Do not talk about the setup and connections until either the oracle or the cop claims.

This is the approach im am taking to solve the game.
I did not talk about any connections yet, like I said, I will not reveal them until they actually happened. I am just stating what happened and what are the implications.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 04:16 GMT

#1191

I feel that sylencia have been trying to buddy me the whole game :/

Koshi should be more of a miss given how historically, everytime koshi scumreads me, he flips town.

Again, I didn't feel the overwhelming towniness from koshi that I always feel from playing with him as town, so I have my reservations on whether if it was truly a miss. But more of a miss because

It's the new and improved me.
Mass posting is terrible for me because I get insanely caught within the thread. I need to be able to take a step back and look at the thread without bias.

It's much better for my reads.

I just need people to do the legwork for me.

and I believe him given how our last game turned out.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 04:24 GMT

#1194

On September 09 2014 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:

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Koshi didn't read me as town and he loves to lynch me even as town... (and when he thinks i am mafia - or rather not town).
There is no reason he wanted a lynch and didn't vote for me unless he was scared of me getting back and destroying him.

When did koshi read you as town after d1?
so you believe koshi is scum?

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 09:14 GMT

#1249

Problem is, mafia still can soup tonight. If its me ill soup for all.

HaruRH

Singapore2780 Posts

September 09 2014 10:04 GMT

#1253

Oh geript you never considered that he was claiming to [i]bait a cc . His is probably the betrayer, the role that switches once he help mafia kill one, the role which....
Wait. That don't exist here. Therefore he is mafia.[/b]

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