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They look very mafia to me now that I'm looking at them after having a little break. Read them carefully and you will see that the reasons he uses for his reads are nonsense in a lot of cases. And the latest post is from the day Poofter died to a failed mission. To give you an introduction: Read his Poofter read in his first post, and the later post. I'll explain it to you like you're 5, paraphrasing. "Poofter is alright, he has low-content, but cause of *some reason about missions we aren't supposed to know anything about* that's not scummy, only if we revisit the idea." It's super obvious he has no intention of revisiting the idea, and the reason just looks like some reason he made up on the go. He explains that he reads him as town, then mentions a reason for why he could be scum, but he doesn't want to think of that unless "we" revisit the idea about unknown missions in a closed setup. In the later post: Mafia-likely (Pink) TehPoofter (High voting pressure, starting a bandwagon/plynch, very large filter, calls people out on buddying while blatantly attempting to buddy, redeemed so far by good questioning of Templar's motives) 1. Wtf is high voting pressure? 2. How is it scummy? 3. He subtly complained about his low content earlier, now his filter is too large. 4. Buddying is the shittiest reason ever 5. But it's ok he questioned Templar and the rest doesn't really matter. 3d put Poofter into a slot where he would never push for his lynch, but also got a chance to "call him scum" (which he really didn't) in the eventuality of his later flip, and you can judge the reasons by yourself. On September 03 2014 01:04 3d12 wrote: You're right, I thought I saw a third vote for batsnacks. Sorry. I wish there was a neater way to find the current vote count. Is there a program or something that I could use to loop through the thread and count the votes? As for refuting Vivax, I said that because Vivax is the one that I'm getting the most positive read from so far. He's pointed out very good inconsistency between Templar and kita, and even though Templar has made a few good posts to better explain his views, kita's evasiveness is something to be observed more closely, I think. Obi is a bit of a mystery, but is starting to look more pink to me. The fact that he was so willing to vote out bat for what was likely a provocation post makes me question his motives, but the fact that he instantly switched his view to Templar after receiving some pressure is a bit more fishy. More data is needed, but the radar is definitely reading slightly pink. Poofter seems alright though; his posts are generally low-content, but unless we revisit the idea of missions involving post count, that's not enough for me to read him as scum. Or anticipating your mod-kill due to 12 hours without post.  Welcome to the game. (And my suspect list, lol)Care to share any opinion on Templar or mderg? On September 04 2014 03:53 3d12 wrote: Hey everyone, sorry for going MIA yesterday. I got dragged into a bit of a mess IRL that ended up sucking up my night. I lurked the thread on my phone when I could get service, and took down some notes: With my personal notes out of the way, let's move on to direct responses: Up until this post in the thread, bunnies' biggest contribution to the thread was to town claim for the person she's been buddying/bantering with throughout the whole thread. Suspicious? Yes. Lynchable? Not by itself. I also particularly disliked the way bunnies was gathering information, going from defensive short-posts to prodding people for their reads and then replying to each one-by-one. Generally, townies are more willing to share their reads, instead of needing to base their perspective on other people's reads. Today's bunnies is a bit different from yesterday's bunnies, in that she's laid out a list of her reads. No information or explanation, but at least she's sharing. I do like that. The read is silly because it was based entirely on meta. A person's meta can change from game to game. This read came from nothing tangible. For example, it would be impossible for me to have the same read on poof because I've never played with him. Since you and I have been exposed to the same information this game, you are using information I have not been exposed to to make a claim on someone else. That is absolutely 100% fishy, would you agree? As for my reads on poofter, see point 3 from my "last night's notes" above, and my list of reads below. Anyone else thinking that mderg is trying hard to get some focus on me? I wasn't the only one to nullread/townread bat yesterday. And yes, traditionally from my live mafia experience, provocative openings are usually townies. It's probably an 80/20 split. I never confirmed him green, but I pointed out that bat looked town from the way he opened. If you have a better reason to scumread him instead, why not post your reasoning? This was all the reasoning I could find in your filter, and it's pretty weak. So, how about it, mderg? Batsnacks: scum or town? List of reads: Mafia ObiWanShinobi (Very non-committal so far, easily switched vote from "troll vote" to batsnacks once it seemed like bat was being scumread. Hesitant to share information. Off-topic posts. Only real redeeming quality so far is calling out kush, very pro-town move.) mderg (Repeatedly pushing the "ignore the missions" idea, provoking reactions from players while not disclosing any information himself, heavy lurking, generally defensive) kushm4sta (Tunnel-vision on batsnacks, trying to start a plynch, low activity otherwise) Micchan (Inactivity, defensive, no thoughts shared, no case built, suspicious bandwagoning) Mafia-likely (Pink) TehPoofter (High voting pressure, starting a bandwagon/plynch, very large filter, calls people out on buddying while blatantly attempting to buddy, redeemed so far by good questioning of Templar's motives) Oatsmaster (Avoiding all talk about missions, redirecting scum claims towards bat and Obi, not posting thoughts openly) Neutral (White) The_Templar (Good expression and information-sharing, challenges unnatural ideas/thoughts, sensibly pieces together a motive. Neutral because of weak (meta/defensive) defense about his role) Vivax (Strange read on poofter, but otherwise constructs very sensible and well-put-together posts pointing out discrepancies. Without the pink vibe from his accusations toward kita and templar, would likely be very town atm.) Damdred (No real read yet, seems to be gathering information. Is asking the right questions, but not sharing information openly) 27ninjabunnies (Good info balanced out by suspicious buddying/claiming) Town batsnacks (I wasn't sure at first, but after your expose on kita, I know you're looking in the right places. Your investigation is solid and you're providing direct responses to your challenges. I highly doubt kita is scum, but I like the way you think.) kitaman27 (The main source of information so far imo, this guy is posting very good reads and keeping good notes. Only scummy behavior so far is what was pointed out by Vivax, but without further proof I'm willing to let it slide as a poor choice of words) All in all, I don't like the idea of a plynch. However, I less like the idea of scum lurking the thread and hopping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the time. Let's change that. ##Vote: Micchan | ||
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On September 17 2014 11:43 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax why did you lynch me. I would rather be wrong and win than be right and lose but man, glowing bear's arguments were so shit. I needed to get a majority of at least three people to prevent a possible second scum from last minute switching, and since GB refused to vote kush who was my top suspect, I had to make a compromise and hope for the best in you. It's simply hard when people aren't around at deadlines cause I had basically the choice of trying to lynch GB, but I didn't scumread him initially cause he played quite well, and decided to put some trust into him and get the 3 vote majority on you who I found not easy to read at the time. Should have reread 3d more closely but as with all scum that blurt out those walls of text his ones discouraged me from reading more closely. | ||
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