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By the way, I believe kush is town for the way his reasoning was brought to the thread. He had a constant stream of thought that did not looked fabricated. His vote changing sounded like a genuinely confused townie.
More than that, this second to last vote count on day2
On September 07 2014 04:20 HaruRH wrote:Vote Count – Day 2 Vivax (0): batsnacks3d12 (1): Tehpoofter, Tehpoofter, Damdred, batsnackskushm4sta (4): Oatsmaster, Tehpoofter, batsnacks, Oatsmaster, 3d12, Vivax, 3d12, Vivax, Tehpoofter, ObiWanShinobi Damdred (1): Vivax, ObiWanShinobi, kitaman27, batsnacks, Vivax, kushm4sta, batsnacks batsnacks (4): 3d12, 27ninjabunnies, kushm4sta, kitaman27, 3d12, kushm4sta ObiWanShinobi (0): kitaman27mderg (0): kushm4stakitaman27 (0): ObiWanShinobi, batsnacks27ninjabunnies (0): kushm4staNot voting (1): mderg Currently, kushm4sta is set to be lynched with 4 votes.
Please contact the mods if the vote count is incorrect. Thank you!
Day 2 will end in (19:30 GMT (+00:00)).
Makes me believe that mafia was ok with both lynches, therefore, making kush town. This also points out to oats being mafia with easy wagoning kush.
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On September 14 2014 01:11 kushm4sta wrote: Try hard will not save you.
I'm not trying to be saved, I'm trying to push my strongest scumread. I just finished reading day2 that mad end believe oats is mafia, and that's why I'm pushing him.
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On September 14 2014 01:14 GlowingBear wrote:I'm not trying to be saved, I'm trying to push my strongest scumread. I just finished reading day2 that mad end believe oats is mafia, and that's why I'm pushing him.
EBWOP: made me believe*
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Oats has being playing a very passive game with little contribution to the thread the whole time. He is never being the target. He jumps on easy targets. He is okay with it because, as mafia, he only needs to survive and escape from lynches. He is clearly mafia.
I'm not taking my vote off of him.
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On September 14 2014 01:49 Vivax wrote: Plus 27nb's play was awful, when she played she almost only talked about her rl stuff, and she scumread me, and the last 2 NKs both scumread her.
Lynch kush + ritoky, ggnore.
You're focusing on kush's meta more than really looking the legitimacy of his stream of thoughts. He does look townie and that vote count makes him look more townie, as I said. You're tunnelling, Vivax.
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On September 14 2014 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:oh man that case so bad. Literally the best argument is the activity one and Ive easily had 9-10 pages as scum before. So in essence, glowing bear pulling out all the stops and making up a scenario where my actions fit a typical scum mentality but not looking into why exactly im posting what im post. Point 2 is a complete fabrication. Show nested quote +He is just not caring for the lynch, as I am an easy target now. He is completely comfortable with lyching anyone because no one is pointing him out and he will survive until LYLO. This is a comfortable mafia picking on an easy target.
This right here. He has 0 proof that I want to lynch anyone other than him. He doesnt care about the rest of my play even though its only 4 pages long and questioning the mentality behind the bunnies switch which IMO is the biggest flag for someone looking closely.
I've pointed out the reasons that makes you look scum before my eyes. It doesn't matter what YOU believe that makes you scum. Your attempt to discredit my read is off
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Vivax, I'm not voting for kush. That vote count is pretty informative. It IS oats.
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On September 14 2014 02:05 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2014 01:59 GlowingBear wrote: Vivax, I'm not voting for kush. That vote count is pretty informative. It IS oats. that vote count is completely useless. There are 3 other people on kush besides me. Why arent all 3 of them scum if being on kush at that point makes me scum?
It is informative because it shows that mafia is ok with the lynches. Therefore, they must be town. You lynching kush is a complementary argument to the case I've brought.
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On September 14 2014 02:08 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2014 01:57 GlowingBear wrote:On September 14 2014 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:oh man that case so bad. Literally the best argument is the activity one and Ive easily had 9-10 pages as scum before. So in essence, glowing bear pulling out all the stops and making up a scenario where my actions fit a typical scum mentality but not looking into why exactly im posting what im post. Point 2 is a complete fabrication. He is just not caring for the lynch, as I am an easy target now. He is completely comfortable with lyching anyone because no one is pointing him out and he will survive until LYLO. This is a comfortable mafia picking on an easy target.
This right here. He has 0 proof that I want to lynch anyone other than him. He doesnt care about the rest of my play even though its only 4 pages long and questioning the mentality behind the bunnies switch which IMO is the biggest flag for someone looking closely. I've pointed out the reasons that makes you look scum before my eyes. It doesn't matter what YOU believe that makes you scum. Your attempt to discredit my read is off wat. Why are you engaging me if you clearly do not value my opinion? what. This blows my mind. Your response to my defence is "thats your opinion, invalid." When in fact, im saying stuff which is not my opinion. what.
This was you trying to discredit my read. This was me showing your attempt is off.
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Come on, people!!! Oats is putting all his efforts to force a scumread on me!!! We cannot afford a mislynch! This could be LYLO if there are two mafia and if there's only one, we will reach LYLO day5! We have to kill mafia today!!!
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On September 14 2014 02:20 Vivax wrote: GB why didn't Damdred vote kush?
Because he was mafia and he was comfortable putting his vote somewhere else!!!!
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On September 14 2014 02:21 Vivax wrote: Your vote analysis is based on the fact that in your opinion scum piled onto kush, but one flipped scum didn't, so how exactly can you claim to be right.
Damdred wasn't willing to vote kush, he was willing to vote bats, both were willing to vote bats, but kush previously scumread Damdred and didn't vote him but batsnacks instead.
It's kush.
I had the same vote analysis on last game I've played and lynched Robik, who was scum. I don't remember the name of the game. Hapahauli was serial killer.
I think this vote analysis could be wrong but the probability of it being right is higher.
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On September 14 2014 02:27 Vivax wrote: Your vote analysis is trash compared to kush scumreading Dam and voting bats instead.
He voted for self preservation and he tried to vote for damdred after he saw kita (was it kita?) voted for damdred. Do you really think his .30 vote was a stunt to not get his vote counted?
He could've just voted for batsnacks and try to do nothing as mafia. Why bother putting that stunt???
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On September 14 2014 02:28 Vivax wrote: Kush is perfectly capable of pushing his reads but he didn't push his Damdred read at EoD.
He sat back, watched the game unfold and voted bats when he was about to get lynched.
He was town and could afford getting batsnacks because: (I) he was town and he doesn't know if batsnacks could be town or not and (ii) everybody was suspecting batsnacks was mafia, so it was a fair vote at that moment
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On September 14 2014 02:32 Vivax wrote: HE VOTED BATS AFTER EVERYONE STARTED SWITCHING TO DAMDRED CAUSE OF HIS SCUMMY COMEBACK.
EITHER HE DIDNT SEE IT OR HE DIDNT SEE IT AS SCUMMY AS OPPOSED TO THE REST OF TOWN, THATS CAUSE HES SCUM.
Vivax, he immediately tried to change his vote to damdred. So, he probably didn't see it.
I think mafia would've bussed to not raise suspicions or he would never ever have voted for damdred on the first hand. I can't see mafia being that careless.
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On September 14 2014 02:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2014 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:On September 14 2014 02:27 Vivax wrote: Your vote analysis is trash compared to kush scumreading Dam and voting bats instead. He voted for self preservation and he tried to vote for damdred after he saw kita (was it kita?) voted for damdred. Do you really think his .30 vote was a stunt to not get his vote counted? He could've just voted for batsnacks and try to do nothing as mafia. Why bother putting that stunt??? Well your scumread just said what you said but earlier. why does your scumread think the same way as you?
You said it was a stunt. I'm saying it isn't.
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On September 14 2014 02:39 Vivax wrote: You're putting faith into a vote that didn't count, and say he "tried to change vote". No, he only put a worm into your head.
Congratz
Goddamit...
Look through a mafia mindset:
1) If his partner is being scumread, why would he put effort into creating more suspicions on him and not bussing at the end? 2) After the damage was done, why trying to pull it off and raise more suspicions on him? Moreover, why trying to fake a vote that wouldn't count anyway?
This is too careless to be mafia. This is a confused townie playing
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On September 14 2014 02:47 Vivax wrote: Mafia mindset: "Why should I vote for the guy I claimed to have scumread, who is my scumbuddy, when there's a majority on a townie anyway?"
"Oh shit a lot of people moved to Damdred, I should too"
And afterwards he townreads him.
Bolded: who are you talking about?
That "I should move too" is not a mafia mindset, come on. He could've defended damdred and pushed other guy.
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I don't get it. He voted for damdred before. He changed his vote to bats for self preservation.
I'm not voting kush, Vivax. I don't see him as mafia. I'm pretty sure oats is mafia.
Why do you read oats as town?
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On September 14 2014 02:54 kushm4sta wrote: just some shit he did that made me think he was town. but i shoudln't have been townreading him for that i realize.
objectively he is the scummiest. i mean. least content. least activity.
Man... Read my case on oats. He's being playing the scummiest here. Also, you have to add your reads on bunnies
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