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On August 22 2014 20:30 IAmRobik wrote:Rayn/jat: do you think wos and xata are mafia together? + Show Spoiler +it should be obvious from my question that I don't
Someone help me here. What is a scum motivation of saying this?
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On August 25 2014 02:54 Xatalos wrote: Hmm. Well there's still 1h time then, but I guess everyone can't be around for that hour.
What? I thought deadline was at 9pm?
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On August 25 2014 04:33 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 04:22 Damdred wrote: Ill post this here for when xata feels like he can talk freely. Yamato brought up your read on robik. Why did you read him town and the read stay the same if not stronger as the day went on.... robik wasn't his normal self in the thread but you kept town reading him . why? Not much point to delay this topic since Robik is dead anyway. This is the read I had on Robik before he died (haven't yet updated MafiaTools since then, will do it now): IAmRobik 1 Casually townreading people etc. just feels a bit towny, probably - and casually claiming town + posting stuff... we'll see, been really AFK for long now The points went like 1 (limiting his options by townreading people freely) -> 2 ( claiming town felt like a thing that only town would naturally do and scum might execute as a meta strategy, but it was less likely) -> 1 (after being AFK for long and not doing anything for a while).
Do you really, really believe in what is in bold? Do you seriously believe that is alignment indicative?
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On August 25 2014 04:49 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 04:38 Damdred wrote: Ok
you were really sure about yamato being scum spamming the thread with it basically. How much has it changed your read that is. Also with kel saying that he would of moved to yamato before the sudden robik votes why didn't you stick on your top scum read tell kel to switch and consolidate yamato would of still been lynched (Instead of moving to your soft town read in rob) My notes on yamato77: yamato77 3 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? very lurky though which is scummy for him - re-entered the thread with vengeance and has been very townish, I'd say even obvtown level pretty much - Hapa made some good points about him lacking confidence and going on lurking periods though - still (actively?) lurking and posting here and there... gave up exactly like in the PYP game ALERT ALERT - went on to vote & kill Robik though and started actually doing stuff so probably town after all The points went something like this 0 -> 2 -> 0 -> 4 -> 2 -> 0 -> -4 -> 3. :D I still wanted to lynch yamato before the deadline over Robik (granted I started to have slight doubts after yamato suddenly activated close to the deadline), but GB voted for me and said he would vote for me if Robik didn't go through, so I just voted for Robik and hoped for the best. It was a bit of a mess during those final minutes and I thought Robik hadn't really done anything to deserve me risking somehow getting lynched instead of yamato (although it was still possible that yamato could be lynched since Hapa & jat wanted to avoid getting me lynched).
A bus was claimed.
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Rayn and Kelsen
I'm driving right now so I can explain it now. I'll do it later
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I think Kelsen and rayn are both mafia. You don't think like that? I don't habe the time to do it before the end of night one but I'll totally dive them and show you they're mafia.
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On August 25 2014 10:06 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 10:04 Hapahauli wrote: Nah I changed my mind on you. I'm thinking Damdred or VA. Good, then maybe I can actually devote some time to Damdred. Let's join forces for now, hmm? ##Vote: VayneAuthorityTurtle/GB I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the NK and Rayn
JAT was obviously town. Mafia shot him. Rayn was shot by SK.
Mafia was scared of a possible medic, that's why neither me or turtle got killed. But I think that if my reads were on spot I wod have being killed. It means that Kelsen is probably not mafia.
But I believe Kelsen could be SK. It fits his entrance and it explains SK kill (it would make me read him as town because I made two posts saying them both are scum, associating them. A way to draw attention off him. He was aware of my post).
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On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote: ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo.
im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three.
Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter
This claim stinks
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On August 25 2014 11:02 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 10:40 VayneAuthority wrote: ill get this out of the way and claim then since it will make the game considerably easier imo.
im a jack of all trades, have the option to cop check, roleblock, or watch some one. Can only use 2 of the three.
Last night I RB'ed damdred so he cant be the SK, but could be the mafia that didnt turn in the kill. Will probably use my cop check tomorrow on some one else but I dont think it will matter Why on earth wouldn't you use your cop check first?
EXACTLY!
And it's easier to say you've roleblocked someone than to say you've got a cop check while mafia.
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On August 25 2014 11:43 Damdred wrote: Well if you blocked me and the sk didn't act its pretty apparent i'm red, but can't tell on mafia
Couldn't understand you. Two people died tonight
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On August 25 2014 11:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 11:53 GlowingBear wrote:On August 25 2014 11:43 Damdred wrote: Well if you blocked me and the sk didn't act its pretty apparent i'm red, but can't tell on mafia Couldn't understand you. Two people died tonight It was an add on to my above post, If he blocked me and there was no sk shot (hypothetical situation) then it would be decently clear and a good lynch on me. If he blocked me and the two kills still went through (hypothetical) then nothing was gained from the block just that I was not the sk. However, If he would of Cop Checked me instead the thread would know for sure if I was red or green due to the information being complete rather than partial
Got it. You're questioning his claim, then. It stinks.
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On August 25 2014 12:09 Damdred wrote: Yes the claim stinks. If he had actual useful information then his timing of the claim would look better as of now if the claim is true all we know is that I am not the Sk. So you open yourself up for the night kill just so you can tell the thread, "Hey guys Damdred isn't the Sk but he still could be mafia". I do not see the thought process behind the claim at all or a valid reason to claim a few hours into the day cycle, since honestly the vote swing would of probably went away from Vayne.
The PR claim in itself is interesting, I like roles like this I love seeing them in the game but it just does not make logical sense with what we know about the game at this point. We know that their are claimed Masons whos alignment is confirmed to one another, we have JAT as a JK. The powers just do not make a lot of sense to me.
Tbh his role makes sense. Check Robik's pm. There is surely a tracker on the game.
What doesn't make sense was his timing and his skill option.
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LOL Wave, are you really wasting your time to see if his apologies are a common trend? Hahahahaha I fuckig love you already
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On August 25 2014 12:32 yamato77 wrote: As for the claim, I find it rather useless.
That claim is SO wrong that I'm considering town reading it because no mafia would do that LOL
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This will be. Unfortunately, I'm playing this game like shit because I'm busy or I'm wasted
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WoS did you did my brief analysis of the night kill?
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I gave analysis on night 1 kills and my conclusion was that Kelsen is the SK, but it is useless to discuss who is the SK now. Easier to find mafia with the godfather flipped.
We are wasting our times trying to decide who is SK before deciding who is mafia
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On August 25 2014 23:29 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 25 2014 23:24 GlowingBear wrote: I gave analysis on night 1 kills and my conclusion was that Kelsen is the SK, but it is useless to discuss who is the SK now. Easier to find mafia with the godfather flipped.
We are wasting our times trying to decide who is SK before deciding who is mafia au contraire, killing the SK now is an amazingly good play. It gives town double the effective time to solve the game.
Killing is good but identifying the SK is nearly impossible. He is just a mafia without partners. He will probably try to kill mafia so he won't get shot. Mafia will try to kill townies that are right on their reads or, if people are too dumb, they will try to kill SK so they won't take the risk of getting killed. Let them both chase themselves. Just scum hunt for alignment indicative posts. The fact is, scum hunting with the help of the flip is better than being incapable of doing associations with the flip (SK case)
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On August 26 2014 10:42 KelsierSC wrote: If top town don't think Xata is the lynch that is fine but I just wanted my point of view out there
##Unvote
##Vote Onegu
Horrible shift, man. Horrible. Just because top townies says they don't think Xat is mafia, why would you change your vote solely on that? If you have a scum read, you have to push it firmly!
How's people judging VA's claim now? I've just got home, can't catch up because I'm awfully tired.
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On August 26 2014 11:31 yamato77 wrote: I love how damdred and wave were Hapa's top scumreads in the night and now they are top town with me to everyone else.
0% chance Hapa is suddenly this bad of a player just because of a break.
Also 0% chance we lynch VA today.
That claim sucks. He says he wasted his roleblock and nullifies his cop heck and track because mafia probably have a roleblocker. Tbh I think it's impossible that they don't have it. Nothing is ok on that claim. I'll lynch him without second thoughts and if he flips blue I will blame him for bad play.
By the way
##Vote: VayneAuthority
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