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marv are you familiar with hf's tryhard scumgames?
I think it's natural to townread him, because he's writing so much and he is giving reasoning. Except the quality of his reasoning is really poor which means he's scum.
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Didn't you say if you wanted to appease ppl and get town read you'd ppst shitty reads and then did it? Why did you do that?
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Kush seriously drop it. I'm not mafia at all and you're really just getting on my nerves repeatedly saying it with no basis. If my reasoning was terrible why did people follow it???
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On August 05 2014 13:42 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 13:36 gobbledydook wrote:On August 05 2014 13:27 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 13:22 gobbledydook wrote:On August 05 2014 13:19 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.
##vote: tehpoofter Is this all you care to comment on after over a day of absence? AUS Timezone OP, also I have other things to do Is there anything specific you want me to comment on? Wave's case on Haru, Obi, Artansis, the meaning of life. Take your pick. There must have been something posted of interest to you between yesterday and today. 1) Haru: It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru. 2) Obi: Null read atm, he's played similarly to when I saw him in Noir Mini 2, and he was town in that game. He hasn't particularly stood out as towny though so that's why I have a null read. 3) Artanis: I said before, I think he's come out with good discussion and so I unvoted him. 4) The meaning of life: 42. Well at least you got the meaning of life part right. Was kinda hoping you'd have more to say about Wave seeing as how I was referring to his case. And also I find it odd that you don't seem to have much of a direction in mind as to where to spend your time in thread. Don't get me wrong I like the poofter vote but your posting shouldn't begin and end with one vote post.
Btw I felt that the interaction of gk with gobble is weird.
Gk is almost like asking gobble to produce content, but is happy with gobble's null answers, while isnt happy with poofter posting conclusive reads without much substantiation. Why?
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On August 06 2014 20:29 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2014 13:42 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 13:36 gobbledydook wrote:On August 05 2014 13:27 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 13:22 gobbledydook wrote:On August 05 2014 13:19 goodkarma wrote:On August 05 2014 13:12 gobbledydook wrote:
Artanis finally showed up and did something useful. Poofter hasn't. All he really has done is scumread on the timing of marv's vote and then say he can't read him anyway. It's such a useless, trivial point that occupies lots of space.
##vote: tehpoofter Is this all you care to comment on after over a day of absence? AUS Timezone OP, also I have other things to do Is there anything specific you want me to comment on? Wave's case on Haru, Obi, Artansis, the meaning of life. Take your pick. There must have been something posted of interest to you between yesterday and today. 1) Haru: It's a good case, I had raised some of my objections about Haru before, but HF persuaded me that just because I don't agree with him doesn't mean he is scum. I still don't like any of his posts, the logic just isn't there. I could be persuaded to vote Haru. 2) Obi: Null read atm, he's played similarly to when I saw him in Noir Mini 2, and he was town in that game. He hasn't particularly stood out as towny though so that's why I have a null read. 3) Artanis: I said before, I think he's come out with good discussion and so I unvoted him. 4) The meaning of life: 42. Well at least you got the meaning of life part right. Was kinda hoping you'd have more to say about Wave seeing as how I was referring to his case. And also I find it odd that you don't seem to have much of a direction in mind as to where to spend your time in thread. Don't get me wrong I like the poofter vote but your posting shouldn't begin and end with one vote post. Btw I felt that the interaction of gk with gobble is weird. Gk is almost like asking gobble to produce content, but is happy with gobble's null answers, while isnt happy with poofter posting conclusive reads without much substantiation. Why?
Was it that gk only wanted to see substantiation? But why? To help them have a more content based filter? I cannot understand gk's intentions here. Ill keep this in mind for now.
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On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru.
Explain.
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On August 06 2014 20:27 kushm4sta wrote:
marv are you familiar with hf's tryhard scumgames?
I think it's natural to townread him, because he's writing so much and he is giving reasoning. Except the quality of his reasoning is really poor which means he's scum.
you've said that about me many times, and literally every time you were wrong. so i find it hard to take this opinion seriously.
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On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain.
I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't.
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I often scum read hf incorrectly early game, but I always move to a town read as his reads mature. That hasn't happened this game.
Anyway I asked you if you are familiar with hfs try hard scum games. If you were, you could see that he is capable of this kind of activity and reasoning as scum
And I haven't mis read you in a long time. You arrogance is quite astounding that you ass hole lynch vivax to hide from yourself the fact that you were wrong and I was right.
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On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't.
Except that I was d1 scumread in 5/6 of my games.
Make it 6/7.
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On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't.
Hey jat I have an idea..how about you don't make assumptions about his behavior you really can't make.
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On August 06 2014 20:42 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't. Except that I was d1 scumread in 5/6 of my games. Make it 6/7.
Maybe. I still doubt you would change your tone this drastically.
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On August 06 2014 20:41 kushm4sta wrote:
And I haven't mis read you in a long time. You arrogance is quite astounding that you ass hole lynch vivax to hide from yourself the fact that you were wrong and I was right.
? are you on drugs?
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On August 06 2014 20:43 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't. Hey jat I have an idea..how about you don't make assumptions about his behavior you really can't make.
How about I keep making assumptions the way I see fit. Did you play in Order/read the game?
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On August 06 2014 20:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 20:43 kushm4sta wrote:On August 06 2014 20:35 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:32 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 20:24 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 20:19 HaruRH wrote:On August 06 2014 05:11 Eden1892 wrote:
Alright, I made my decision. I mean it this time, seriously for real.
##UNVOTE: gobbledydook
##VOTE: HaruRH
Like I said earlier, go look at Haru's filter. His vote has been on Artanis forever, but he explicitly backed off of Artanis in favor of gobbledydook. Haru hasn't been pushing his lynch target much at all this game, no matter who it's been. He has no thread presence by choice, lots of posting but he's not going anywhere with it. Furthermore, he seemed far too resigned to being lynched compared to my read on his personality from our previous game together. Haru is a fighter, he's a prideful player - great traits to have IMO. He wouldn't go down so meekly if he were town. He would have raised holy hell at the fact that a wagon piled up on him as quickly as it did and he would have fought like hell to get out of it. I know he's not around now due to timezones, that's not on him, but he had plenty of time to push the lynch he wanted and he didn't, and he had plenty of time to fight his lynch and he didn't. Of the lynches that look viable at this point, this is easily the best. I wanted to address this yesterday, but I was so down and busy trying to prove artanis is scummy that I didn't bother to. Eden, last time I fought the lynch, you personally attacked me so hard I nearly wanted to quit the game. Only the parity cop claim changed your mind. I also don't want to appease you, I don't feel the need to. I just need to play a game where I am not typing in all caps to prove a point. I am a fighter yes, but I am no fighter in d1. D1 haru is crap. So crap that any reads I make d1 are usually scumread (read: detention mafia, newbie mafia lvi) and the only time I survived d1 posting a read and push was during the most recent mafia game. Oh yes, I'll burn up when I have a conclusive read but people choose to push me instead. ^ this objective cannot be met if I literally cannot make reads d1. I have trouble buying this attitude as townHaru. Explain. I just don't think you are the type of player who plays himself down as town after your performance in Order. I really don't. Hey jat I have an idea..how about you don't make assumptions about his behavior you really can't make. How about I keep making assumptions the way I see fit. Did you play in Order/read the game?
Ah yes, of course you did. Koshi shot you. If you paid attention in that game you would see that Harus attidude there was very different.
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Things got really interesting after I was at 7 votes:
On August 06 2014 06:44 LoneMeow wrote:Counting of votes:Artanis[Xp] (1): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflaregobbledydook (2): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta Eden1892 (0): Eden1892Vivax (2): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydookObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892HaruRH (7): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobiNot voting (1): ObiWanShinobi With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +
deleted because its too big yo
during this time, I jumped onto gobble, who was (in my opinion) gaining traction to be the next lynch. All it needed was a few more votes.
On August 06 2014 07:55 iamperfection wrote:Counting of votes:Artanis[Xp] (0): gobbledydook, marvellosity, marvellosity, marvellosity, Eden1892, HaruRH, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Holyflaregobbledydook (4): Vivax, Eden1892, Tehpoofter, kushm4sta, ObiWanShinobi, HaruRH Eden1892 (0): Eden1892Vivax (5): Eden1892, marvellosity, goodkarma, Holyflare, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Artanis Tehpoofter (0): Holyflare, goodkarma, gobbledydookObiWanShinobi (0): Eden1892, Holyflare, Eden1892, Eden1892HaruRH (4): gobbledydook, WaveofShadow, Artanis[Xp], marvellosity, gobbledydook, Eden1892, justanothertownie, Eden1892, marvellosity, Eden1892, Tehpoofter WaveofShadow (0): ObiWanShinobi, kushm4sta, Eden1892, Eden1892, Eden1892marvellosity (0): Artanis[Xp], Eden1892, Vivax, HaruRH, WaveofShadow, ObiWanShinobiNot voting (0): With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, Aug 05 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).+ Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] +
still too big. stop opening spoiler quotes you lashwhole
At this point, Artanis and JAT followed marv to lynch vivax instead. They had already shown their intent to jump back to me if this fails. I have also joined in, making it 6 votes.
On August 06 2014 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch. Do you have a better one? I feel like gd would better. I took a look at what kush was saying and saw merit to it and how GD operates as scum. I feel like this Haru lynch is just us lynching Haru for being Haru. I know he said some idiotic things but idk, it feels like he's playing his towngame like he always does.
Obi have also shown that he doesn't want to vote me. So this following quote doesn't follow his ideals:
On August 06 2014 07:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.
On August 06 2014 12:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2014 12:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On August 06 2014 06:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Yeah I don't really want to waste time doing that right now. I'll do it after lynch.
I need a minute to think. Cav, what was this in reference to? Also, you do a lot of complaining around lynch time. On August 06 2014 06:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 06:11 Holyflare wrote:
Really vivax is looking a lot like the vivax from when i smurfed and he was defending someone that others thought was scummy. He really didn't comment on haru at all and still attacks haru's aggressors instead. He is also stuck in his time warp of lies making reads on things THAT DON'T EXIST At this point it's borderline impossible for Vivax to even be lynched, so you should probably decide between gd and haru instead. I'm kind of leaning towards gd at this point but I'm not sure. On August 06 2014 06:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I remember Haru had me as scum for similar reasons in Titanic.
Like I know his day 1 shit is incredibly asinine sometimes and it's the only thing stopping me from hammering him right now. On August 06 2014 07:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well my vote doesn't matter anymore, and I don't even feel like this is a great lynch. On August 06 2014 07:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On August 06 2014 07:13 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not at a computer to make a case and we definitely can't get 7 but I'm feeling really fucking paranoid of haru lynch As am I. I just looked back over GD's filter and I'm back to not remembering why I scumread him. I think today is just a miss in general. You know who complains about lynch targets without ever offering a proper opinion or direction? Marv was asking me to filter dive Vivax, and I was like, "nah, the lynch should be between these two people and Vivax isn't getting lynched today." And then he got lynched. Also, I offered some direction during lynch: Show nested quote +I'm not flipping. No more flipping for me.
We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now. Just because I had problems picking between the first two targets doesn't mean I didn't have direction. I just couldn't make up my mind, and then town went and just fucking flipped because they thought Vivax was being an asshole.
Neither does this from obi follows his original stance of only wanting to lynch into me/gobble.
Also, it is apparent that they would come back to my wagon when they detect that the vivax wagon would fail. So why would obi, whose stance is to not vote me, decide to limit the wagon on me/gd, insisting on not changing wagons, then decide to change to vivax after all ( even though there was no risk of no-lynch since I am going to die anyway), then rage about town being bad for lynching vivax?
On August 06 2014 13:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Because I was certain that a mass voteswitch would be unfeasible.
Apparently it actually happened and he died. I warned everyone not to but I couldn't override anything. Blegh.
This explanation does nothing.
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On August 06 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Marv is basically 'we' and should be considered 'we' because everyone followed him because fuck it why not.
Also, if you honestly believe I orchestrated a mass voteswitch to Vivax at the last second, despite the fact that I was telling everyone not to, then lol. I seriously wish I was capable of that as mafia.
Is obi using the fact that he didn't like the lynch as an excuse to forgo all his responsibility for being the most hesitant player to switch?
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We need to pick between Haru/GD and I refuse to consider Vivax until after lynch. Seriously, bandwagon flips are 100% guaranteed to kill town so we need to stop this switch right goddamn now.
TMI?
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Haru, I know the main reason you had such a visceral reaction to my push on you last time we crossed swords was because I made it personal, but I got the impression well before I ever did that that you were a fairly prideful player. That's a good thing in my book, people who take pride in their performance and their work tend to bust their asses to try to win and I love being around people who do that.
There's just a fire missing in your play that was burning bright and hot last game. Anyone else that was in that game can probably back me up on it. You played pretty tough and were unafraid to challenge people on anything. Hell, our first interaction in that game, you called me out for trying to seed your ML after Slamroot. Never mind whether that was true or not; the point is that you were completely fearless in your assertions. In retrospect, it was pretty obvious that you were town, and I should have read it much earlier.
Your play's just really different here. There's a meek deference when you're interacting with most people. You've been getting scumread by a lot of people, and while you are doing something to resist it, the fire's just not there like it was before. Something's just off. My first thought on it is that part of your passionate defenses of yourself when you're town come from the ironclad knowledge that you're town, and the added fervor that comes from knowing you're right; and thus that the fire's missing in your defense this time because you're mafia, you know you are, and you can't generate the same righteous indignation that you have when you're innocent and accused of being guilty.
But that's not the only explanation that fits, and there are townsided explanations that fit. So, before I try to get you lynched, if there's a townsided explanation for this, please tell me what's up. You can say that you don't have to appease me and don't want to deal with it, and that's fine, but you know from our other game that I can get people to support a lynch I want, and I think you and I both would be better off just working with me on this question instead of trying to play hardball with this talk of appeasement. Okay?
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Uh, hah, awkward, I crossposted during a sequence of awesome posts that say things I've been loosely thinking but not qute able to articulate.
I already feel better about it, but if you can help me out with this concern anyway that would go a long way.
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EPT
