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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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HaruRH
Singapore2780 Posts
On August 06 2014 07:52 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, I am down but be ready to switch back if we don't get enough people. On August 06 2014 07:55 marvellosity wrote: swap back to haru in a few minutes if this isn't gonna happen. On August 06 2014 07:55 justanothertownie wrote: Just be ready to switch to Haru I will be too. So you were never forced. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
dude is going in | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:32 kushm4sta wrote: link the wedip game? ITS IN MY FILTER LOLOLOLOL Just for you, my friend. http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1129589#1129589 God bless you trying to read it btw. I love webdip (I'm a mod there) but our forum is not conducive to mafia. We try tho... | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
the second part of your defense is kind of a tooscummytobescum argument, right? Here's what it looked like to me: he was confirmed lurking near EoD - SCUMMY he voted to ensure Vivax, someone who hard scumread him, got lynched. Scum did not want a no lynch either. Given the the options of lynching Vivax, a strong analytical townie, or a no lynch, scum will pick lynching vivax every time. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:40 kushm4sta wrote: @eden the second part of your defense is kind of a tooscummytobescum argument, right? Here's what it looked like to me: he was confirmed lurking near EoD - SCUMMY he voted to ensure Vivax, someone who hard scumread him, got lynched. Scum did not want a no lynch either. Given the the options of lynching Vivax, a strong analytical townie, or a no lynch, scum will pick lynching vivax every time. you're scumreading someone for being in a different timezone? for realsies? | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
why wouldn't scum want a no-lynch? they would love to reduce the # of mislynches they need to force by 1 without giving us a flip and who cares if Vivax hard scumread him? that doesn't mean anything for his alignment since that wasn't the reason he voted Vivax off | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:44 marvellosity wrote: you're scumreading someone for being in a different timezone? for realsies? no. if he wasn't there at eod that's one thing. but he was confirmed there, and following enough to know that a no lynch was possible | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:30 HaruRH wrote: Point 1: You said I played like how I normally do as town. That means you townread me. That means you should be on GD. Point 2:You was never forced to switch. They were ready to lynch me again once the time is near and nobody switches. Your hesitation + now your complains of being forced to switch don't match. Point 3:There will not be a nolynch on d1 because they were ready to jump back to me fyi. Therein lies the problem. I felt like I was choosing to vote between two towns. Are you asking me to lynch you? | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:44 Eden1892 wrote: not at all a too scummy to be scum argument... he was around for the last few minutes at EOD even though he had a valid excuse not to be which indicates a desire to be present at EOD which is townie why wouldn't scum want a no-lynch? they would love to reduce the # of mislynches they need to force by 1 without giving us a flip and who cares if Vivax hard scumread him? that doesn't mean anything for his alignment since that wasn't the reason he voted Vivax off Scum have a huge desire to be present at EoD, just not be active. He wanted to see if he was getting lynched. Why wouldn't scum want a no lynch?? Because lynching town is better than lynching no one for scum. Who cares if vivax hard scumread him? That just gives him more incentive to want vivax dead. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Therein lies the problem. I felt like I was choosing to vote between two towns. Are you asking me to lynch you? Why did you put yourself in that situation by pointedly refusing to push your scumread(s) in a remotely convincing way? | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:44 Eden1892 wrote: not at all a too scummy to be scum argument... he was around for the last few minutes at EOD even though he had a valid excuse not to be which indicates a desire to be present at EOD which is townie why wouldn't scum want a no-lynch? they would love to reduce the # of mislynches they need to force by 1 without giving us a flip and who cares if Vivax hard scumread him? that doesn't mean anything for his alignment since that wasn't the reason he voted Vivax off I had a valid excuse to never show up but I stuck it out and was very vocal about what I was thinking. You are making shit up as you go, I swear. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36156 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:47 kushm4sta wrote: no. if he wasn't there at eod that's one thing. but he was confirmed there, and following enough to know that a no lynch was possible hmm. maybe. | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:49 Eden1892 wrote: Why did you put yourself in that situation by pointedly refusing to push your scumread(s) in a remotely convincing way? Because I wasn't convinced that either of them were scum. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:49 kushm4sta wrote: Scum have a huge desire to be present at EoD, just not be active. He wanted to see if he was getting lynched. Why wouldn't scum want a no lynch?? Because lynching town is better than lynching no one for scum. Who cares if vivax hard scumread him? That just gives him more incentive to want vivax dead. he didn't have time to be active when he checked in afaik. hell his vote switch failed because he was too late. why would scum even bother? as for whether that's better or not, i'm not convinced it is necessarily. and that's not even a knock on Vivax's play to say scum would prefer him alive than dead. but he had been a controversial player throughout d1 and I could totally see scum valuing the potential distraction power of a living controversial target, and preventing his d1 flip, more than they feared his contributions. it's not clear cut your last point is silly, you have to assume gobble is scum for it to be a valid point toward him being scum. town!gobble has no reason to value killing a townie more just because that townie hard scumreads him. i don't think you're being very objective about this lynch, kush | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I had a valid excuse to never show up but I stuck it out and was very vocal about what I was thinking. You are making shit up as you go, I swear. you were very vocally bitching and moaning about the game state while doing nothing to move it elsewhere | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:54 Eden1892 wrote: you were very vocally bitching and moaning about the game state while doing nothing to move it elsewhere I guess the part where I yelled about not switching to Vivax doesn't count. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Because I wasn't convinced that either of them were scum. no fuck. i'm asking why you let it get there in the first place. you had two days to find and push a better case and you chose to spend most of the day telling us to vote marv because ~~Reasons~~. you end up dropping this and picking up no alternative, spending your time instead whining about "all the tryhards" in the game to justify your pointed noninvolvement, and then after someone flips town you've spent the rest of the evening talking about how it was soooo scum-driven, except by "talking" i mean you just keep repeating this assertion and saying that ~~Scum~~ were pushing it without saying who or making a case for them, and just calling me an idiot and shouting down my perfectly coherent and reasonable arguments for it being town-driven | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
So this is from his towngame, right? WHY SLYGUY270 IS MAFIA Let's look at what he has said. The first thing he does, is vote Damian without providing any reason whatsoever. He then disappears for a few hours. He gets caught out and tries to explain that by saying that he didn't like instant first posts because they seem mafia to him. Which isn't really a reason, he hasn't justified why the posting time indicates anything about alignment. He dismisses Socrates's question about his behaviour by saying he can't convince him anyway. Then he jumps on WardenDresden's ridiculous troll post about players starting with the letter G to be mafia, without any reason either. He is appearing to contribute, without actually contributing anything. So I ask slyguy270: 1) Gtlblx has been active in driving discussion in the game. What do you find about his posts that you do not like about him, such that you are voting for him? No a 1 sentence response like 'his name defense is bad' won't cut it. 2) What are your other town and scum reads right now? Provide detailed explanations. Until you satisfy me with your answers, ##Vote: Slyguy270. | ||
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Eden1892
United States5866 Posts
On August 06 2014 23:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I guess the part where I yelled about not switching to Vivax doesn't count. no, it doesn't, since you didn't want to kill anyone else that was viable, and did nothing beforehand to make someone you wanted to kill viable. do you honestly not understand this? townies find people they think are scum and try to get them lynched. scum stall and try to find reasons not to push things because pushing things = engagement = more opportunities to fuck up and get caught. you better hope to god holyflare has something convincing to say about your innocence like he implied earlier because you're easily the best target right now in my eyes | ||
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