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On July 31 2014 08:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 08:07 kushm4sta wrote: why is palmar confirmed town? or why is palmar saying he's confirmed town? i skimmed his filter and i cant find the reason. I kinda read him as town cause he shared my view in the HF vs me thingy, but I guess I need to evaluate more closely.
what is the 1 shot power he is talking about?
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On July 31 2014 08:10 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 08:09 kushm4sta wrote: rayn is a good player and scum are scared of him. that kill makes perfect sense to me. No, he wanted me dead and would have created a town vs town situation. There's more behind that kill than the eyes see at first glance. he said he woudl duel you if a duel hadn't been started by the time he woke up, but that is pretty unlikely.
I had palmar as a light townread, but what's concerning me is there is a lot of mafia motive behind killing marv like that. He's afk so it doesn't look too scummy, but he's also a huge potential threat if he ever starts playing.
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hi sloosh Why would mafia never duel marv in this situation?
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On July 31 2014 09:39 slOosh wrote: I'm not solely town reading Palmar because of his dueling marv..
What I don't get is how you scum read Palmar because of his dueling marv.
I'm not scumreading palmar, really. It's just a see the potential scum motivation behind the duel, and I think the duel is really shitty.
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anyone else get batsnacks and ritoky mixed up in their mind?
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On July 31 2014 10:08 slOosh wrote: Hey kush, could you read goodkarma and MysteryMeat1 for me?
In the process of reading through the thread right now. At page 17. I actually think goodkarma calling out sinani is sort of town, just because he was okay with his entrance being so contentless. Not a strong read though. MM i haven't seen yet. ~~~ Is there something I missed in regards to this?
On July 31 2014 08:01 Palmar wrote: tbh if marv looks supertown idc you can lynch me. I've already used my one-shot worthless power anyway.
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ive got a sick list post coming
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^no i don't this quote looks town to me, not sure why
On July 31 2014 02:21 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Your list included people who i was townreading, why wouldnt i find you scummy for trying to lynch people i think are town
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I think we lynch Marv. Marv is null/afk. Palmar is looking townie cause 1. lots of townreads, which are easy to do as scum but not smart to do because it narrows your mislynch options. I don't expect him to townread people like that as scum. 2. active, responsive early game 3. no nervousness in his tone 4. instaduel might be anti town but it shows fearlessness
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Yamato is lurking.
On July 30 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote: I think yamato is mafia
On July 30 2014 13:35 yamato77 wrote: lolhf Yamato responds to a one liner less than two hours later. Clearly he is reading the thread, but he claims to have no time to play. How can someone with no time to play read the thread?
On July 31 2014 00:50 yamato77 wrote: still don't really have time to play until tomorrow
unfortunate for you folks
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On July 31 2014 13:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Actually, why is it that Palmar pretended to give a shit about the thread atmosphere when Holyflare was posting, but then all of a sudden #yolo duels Marv?
That doesn't make any sense.
He cared about not spamming. that's not exactly the same as caring about pro town atmosphere.
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sloosh, actually it will probably dissuade marv from participating lol
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My reads go like this right now: yamato77 sinani206 fuba damdred goodkarma ~~~
Let me expand on goodkarma. 1. NK analysis Rayn put the most pressure on goodkarma. He also scumread him.
2. Post 3
On July 31 2014 04:01 goodkarma wrote: I'd bomb batsnacks or Damdred. Batsnack's scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this. He's done literally nothing useful all game. Damdred hasn't contributed much of anything, and is super-wishy washy with what reads he does give.
Most of the lurkers at this point have become or promised to be more active, so I'd be inclined to give them a chance. Fuba doesn't count as he's looking like he's getting modkilled. As town he would have more thoughts on the game if he were following it as closely as he is. We know he is following it closely because he knows fuba is probably going to get modkilled. "Batsnacks is scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this." - I see a contradiction here. Liability is what you call someone you think is town but is playing bad in some way. Someone can't really be scummy AND be a liability. Goodkarma, why is he scummy?
3. Post 5 + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2014 04:50 goodkarma wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 31 2014 04:36 slOosh wrote: But seriously, goodkarma, high chance of mafia.
He berates sinani for making a non-post, and suggests bombing ritoky / Damdred / lurkers, when he is guilty of those things himself.
ritoky, you want a good bomb? goodkarma is a good bomb. even more his reads on bats/damdred are lazy and bad. Look at any of my prior games and you should know my day 1 usually involves removing people that are most likely to be D1 liabilities. You should also know that I don't spam like crazy in games. Every post I make has a purpose, or I don't post it. I don't talk about jagers or any other random crap. I only post when I feel it'll be helpful. On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. So heaven forbid, that leaves who I've listed as the most likely scum candidates. Sinani specifically has been brought up. If he behaves this way all game, he's a huge liability and a good bomb target. But from what he's posted it looks like he'll only behave like this day one, and this is why I excluded him. Here he is very focused on defending himself using meta. Except I did look at his meta, and in every town game he gave thoughts on people other than lurkers and usually asked questions. This game:
On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. His last scum game:
As far as who Hapa should "vigi" with his mayor powers, I haven't seen anyone so far that looks very scummy
4. Post 6 + Show Spoiler +On July 31 2014 05:10 goodkarma wrote:@Vivax: This is literally the only thing resembling a read I've seen in Damdred's filter. Hence why I said wishy-washy. Show nested quote +On July 30 2014 11:50 Damdred wrote:On July 30 2014 11:31 justanothertownie wrote:On July 30 2014 11:28 Holyflare wrote: Well do it.
Also bat if you duel straight away and claim cop i would still lynch you because that's how silly it is. It is almost 5 am dude. No way I am doing this right now - i will go to bed instead. Watch out for this Damdred guy. Both posts he made somehow look awful to me. On July 30 2014 11:37 justanothertownie wrote:On July 30 2014 11:35 slOosh wrote: Maybe he is high off vigging scum from Titanic. Who knows.
Anyhows at this point I'm still feel goods about Palmar's list for reasons I mentioned earlier.
Anyone feel not so good about anyone who has posted thus far? Take a look at damdred. Am I wrong or does it look like he is just saying things for the sake of having said something? If you look at my filters for storm 2, or titanic lots of people say the same thing you do. I have a lot of issues entering the thread and trying to get some form of point across. I guess thread entrance is the hardest thing for me and then people key on it and I end up getting mislynched and frustration sets in. On July 30 2014 11:38 Holyflare wrote:On July 30 2014 11:35 slOosh wrote: Maybe he is high off vigging scum from Titanic. Who knows.
Anyhows at this point I'm still feel goods about Palmar's list for reasons I mentioned earlier.
Anyone feel not so good about anyone who has posted thus far? I'd like damd to talk more about things he read than just obi and setup seeing as he's caught up and vivax is tbd. Other than that (marv till he posts logic) not really anyone else worries me (ritoky maybe). I've got a few town leans right now. I really feel right now that Viv is kind of going into the town vs town type of deal that he was in last round sloosh really gave a much better explanation of why than me. But it fits his normal play style of town to be really out there and try to bring people into the discussion even forcing activity. It reminds me of his previous titanic play and how he got into a fight with town Koshi early and often. And i'd like bat to calm down Show nested quote +On July 31 2014 04:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 31 2014 04:50 goodkarma wrote:On July 31 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On July 31 2014 04:36 slOosh wrote: But seriously, goodkarma, high chance of mafia.
He berates sinani for making a non-post, and suggests bombing ritoky / Damdred / lurkers, when he is guilty of those things himself.
ritoky, you want a good bomb? goodkarma is a good bomb. even more his reads on bats/damdred are lazy and bad. Look at any of my prior games and you should know my day 1 usually involves removing people that are most likely to be D1 liabilities. You should also know that I don't spam like crazy in games. Every post I make has a purpose, or I don't post it. I don't talk about jagers or any other random crap. I only post when I feel it'll be helpful. On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. So heaven forbid, that leaves who I've listed as the most likely scum candidates. Sinani specifically has been brought up. If he behaves this way all game, he's a huge liability and a good bomb target. But from what he's posted it looks like he'll only behave like this day one, and this is why I excluded him. Okay gk. you made reads that are easy. at the same time you failed to contribute onto anything else in the thread. then you made a post that wishy-washy people are likely to be scum (and that post of yours was really wishy-washy in itself). so what have you actually said? and do you really think "removing liabilities" is the way to win a game of mafia as town? It's the way I play mafia on day 1. Vote histories and how people push players makes subsequent days much easier. Mafia is lynched about as often as you'd get from RNG day 1, and there's a reason for that. If you're mislynching town most of the time, I'd prefer to mislynch a liability. Besides that, I've found active players tend to be town more often than mafia. Unfortunately, this is all the time I can put into this game before night ends so if you're going to bomb me you're going to bomb me. But I'd encourage you to look at some of my prior games. My day 1's are historically a bit dicey. Probably because of my approach (even though it's a good one). I'm here and talking to you, and I'll be here for you to get a better read on (if I live) as the game progresses. Leave me alive, and I'm confident you'll find I'm a cheese that gets better with age, as I've shown in many of my prior games. But if I die I would highly encourage you to set up a duel between the two people I've listed. Especially Damdred if he continues to post the way he has.
Ehh I'm kind of unscumreading goodkarma at this point. Don't you hate it when you write a long post and in the middle of you it you change your mind. whatever im posting everything anyway cause yolo spamin it up. fuck
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obi, there is a huge difference between being protown and being anti spam. anti spam can come from being lazy and not wanting to read a lot of shit. I don't see palmar's anti spam as a contradiction to his yolo instaduel at all.
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im good with killing marv actually. Balance wise, I can't see anyone else that would fit the bill as active scum player. I doubt the host would make a yamato, sinani, fuba scumteam. That is asking for a shitty game.
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On July 31 2014 14:14 slOosh wrote:Check out Normal Mini IV, a relatively recent game. Despite having only 2 pages of filter, he was very involved in D1, and consequently shot N1. I don't think the meta picture he paints himself of being totally reserved D1 fits here.
um... worst metaing ever. "he was active d1 in this other game, therefore if he's not active d1 he is scum" no. He said he didn't have time and I believe him.
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On July 31 2014 14:14 slOosh wrote: He doesn't really seem to care about the big issues of the thread and sounds very unconvinced by his own arguments.
He hasn't really mad any arguments. He has talked about wanting to lynch 'liabilities" aka batsnacks and damdred. Here is him talking about "liabilities in other town games.
##Vote: VE It's pretty clear he's not interested in keeping up with this game and is spewing whatever comes off the top of his head. Not clearly scum-aligned thought process, but a clear liability
##Vote: VE It's pretty clear he's not interested in keeping up with this game and is spewing whatever comes off the top of his head. Not clearly scum-aligned thought process, but a clear liability
He has never mentioned "liability" as scum.
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sorry one of those quotes was meant to be this:
He needs to roleclaim if town is to trust that he is an asset and not a liability going further into this game.
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Clearly, GK gives zero fucks about looking town. That's townie. It's not that he doesn't care about the game. It's that he hasn't been giving the game the time and he is not keeping up on reading. If he was, he would realize that Palmar dueled it so fast that batsnacks wouldn't have even had a chance. He had concerns about batsnacks yesterday, and he is following up on those concerns.
I don't scumread him. I thought I did, then I looked into it, and now I don't.
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sloosh i dunno where you're from from but marv is british. It's 8 am there so Marv isn't coming any time soon.
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