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kushm4sta
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On July 31 2014 08:09 Vivax wrote: I kinda read him as town cause he shared my view in the HF vs me thingy, but I guess I need to evaluate more closely. what is the 1 shot power he is talking about? | ||
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On July 31 2014 08:10 Vivax wrote: No, he wanted me dead and would have created a town vs town situation. There's more behind that kill than the eyes see at first glance. he said he woudl duel you if a duel hadn't been started by the time he woke up, but that is pretty unlikely. I had palmar as a light townread, but what's concerning me is there is a lot of mafia motive behind killing marv like that. He's afk so it doesn't look too scummy, but he's also a huge potential threat if he ever starts playing. | ||
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Why would mafia never duel marv in this situation? | ||
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On July 31 2014 09:39 slOosh wrote: I'm not solely town reading Palmar because of his dueling marv.. What I don't get is how you scum read Palmar because of his dueling marv. I'm not scumreading palmar, really. It's just a see the potential scum motivation behind the duel, and I think the duel is really shitty. | ||
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On July 31 2014 10:08 slOosh wrote: Hey kush, could you read goodkarma and MysteryMeat1 for me? In the process of reading through the thread right now. At page 17. I actually think goodkarma calling out sinani is sort of town, just because he was okay with his entrance being so contentless. Not a strong read though. MM i haven't seen yet. ~~~ Is there something I missed in regards to this? On July 31 2014 08:01 Palmar wrote: tbh if marv looks supertown idc you can lynch me. I've already used my one-shot worthless power anyway. | ||
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this quote looks town to me, not sure why On July 31 2014 02:21 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Your list included people who i was townreading, why wouldnt i find you scummy for trying to lynch people i think are town | ||
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Palmar is looking townie cause 1. lots of townreads, which are easy to do as scum but not smart to do because it narrows your mislynch options. I don't expect him to townread people like that as scum. 2. active, responsive early game 3. no nervousness in his tone 4. instaduel might be anti town but it shows fearlessness | ||
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On July 30 2014 11:52 Holyflare wrote: I think yamato is mafia On July 30 2014 13:35 yamato77 wrote: lolhf Yamato responds to a one liner less than two hours later. Clearly he is reading the thread, but he claims to have no time to play. How can someone with no time to play read the thread? On July 31 2014 00:50 yamato77 wrote: still don't really have time to play until tomorrow unfortunate for you folks | ||
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On July 31 2014 13:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Actually, why is it that Palmar pretended to give a shit about the thread atmosphere when Holyflare was posting, but then all of a sudden #yolo duels Marv? That doesn't make any sense. He cared about not spamming. that's not exactly the same as caring about pro town atmosphere. | ||
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yamato77 sinani206 fuba damdred goodkarma ~~~ Let me expand on goodkarma. 1. NK analysis Rayn put the most pressure on goodkarma. He also scumread him. 2. Post 3 On July 31 2014 04:01 goodkarma wrote: I'd bomb batsnacks or Damdred. Batsnack's scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this. He's done literally nothing useful all game. Damdred hasn't contributed much of anything, and is super-wishy washy with what reads he does give. Most of the lurkers at this point have become or promised to be more active, so I'd be inclined to give them a chance. Fuba doesn't count as he's looking like he's getting modkilled. As town he would have more thoughts on the game if he were following it as closely as he is. We know he is following it closely because he knows fuba is probably going to get modkilled. "Batsnacks is scummy and is a clear liability if he's going to continue playing like this." - I see a contradiction here. Liability is what you call someone you think is town but is playing bad in some way. Someone can't really be scummy AND be a liability. Goodkarma, why is he scummy? 3. Post 5 + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2014 04:50 goodkarma wrote: Look at any of my prior games and you should know my day 1 usually involves removing people that are most likely to be D1 liabilities. You should also know that I don't spam like crazy in games. Every post I make has a purpose, or I don't post it. I don't talk about jagers or any other random crap. I only post when I feel it'll be helpful. On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. So heaven forbid, that leaves who I've listed as the most likely scum candidates. Sinani specifically has been brought up. If he behaves this way all game, he's a huge liability and a good bomb target. But from what he's posted it looks like he'll only behave like this day one, and this is why I excluded him. Here he is very focused on defending himself using meta. Except I did look at his meta, and in every town game he gave thoughts on people other than lurkers and usually asked questions. This game: On top of that I don't have a scum read on any of the active players right now. His last scum game: As far as who Hapa should "vigi" with his mayor powers, I haven't seen anyone so far that looks very scummy 4. Post 6 + Show Spoiler + On July 31 2014 05:10 goodkarma wrote: @Vivax: This is literally the only thing resembling a read I've seen in Damdred's filter. Hence why I said wishy-washy. It's the way I play mafia on day 1. Vote histories and how people push players makes subsequent days much easier. Mafia is lynched about as often as you'd get from RNG day 1, and there's a reason for that. If you're mislynching town most of the time, I'd prefer to mislynch a liability. Besides that, I've found active players tend to be town more often than mafia. Unfortunately, this is all the time I can put into this game before night ends so if you're going to bomb me you're going to bomb me. But I'd encourage you to look at some of my prior games. My day 1's are historically a bit dicey. Probably because of my approach (even though it's a good one). I'm here and talking to you, and I'll be here for you to get a better read on (if I live) as the game progresses. Leave me alive, and I'm confident you'll find I'm a cheese that gets better with age, as I've shown in many of my prior games. But if I die I would highly encourage you to set up a duel between the two people I've listed. Especially Damdred if he continues to post the way he has. Ehh I'm kind of unscumreading goodkarma at this point. Don't you hate it when you write a long post and in the middle of you it you change your mind. whatever im posting everything anyway cause yolo spamin it up. fuck | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:14 slOosh wrote: Check out Normal Mini IV, a relatively recent game. Despite having only 2 pages of filter, he was very involved in D1, and consequently shot N1. I don't think the meta picture he paints himself of being totally reserved D1 fits here. um... worst metaing ever. "he was active d1 in this other game, therefore if he's not active d1 he is scum" no. He said he didn't have time and I believe him. | ||
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On July 31 2014 14:14 slOosh wrote: He doesn't really seem to care about the big issues of the thread and sounds very unconvinced by his own arguments. He hasn't really mad any arguments. He has talked about wanting to lynch 'liabilities" aka batsnacks and damdred. Here is him talking about "liabilities in other town games. ##Vote: VE It's pretty clear he's not interested in keeping up with this game and is spewing whatever comes off the top of his head. Not clearly scum-aligned thought process, but a clear liability ##Vote: VE It's pretty clear he's not interested in keeping up with this game and is spewing whatever comes off the top of his head. Not clearly scum-aligned thought process, but a clear liability He has never mentioned "liability" as scum. | ||
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He needs to roleclaim if town is to trust that he is an asset and not a liability going further into this game. | ||
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It's not that he doesn't care about the game. It's that he hasn't been giving the game the time and he is not keeping up on reading. If he was, he would realize that Palmar dueled it so fast that batsnacks wouldn't have even had a chance. He had concerns about batsnacks yesterday, and he is following up on those concerns. I don't scumread him. I thought I did, then I looked into it, and now I don't. | ||
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