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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 13 2014 23:03 GMT
#1501
On July 14 2014 08:00 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 07:57 Eden1892 wrote:
why aren't you pushing that lynch then? that's what I don't understand, I see one mention of poofter/bunnies since the flip and it's not a case, it's a read that isn't really followed up on. you talked plenty about them pre-flip when you weren't trying to control the lynch, now you're trying to control the lynch and i'm not seeing the case anymore and it's just strange. like i've done more to try to get you lynched since the flip and i don't even think you're mafia! if someone who's just trying to piss you off and make you play for real is putting out more effort to get their "target" killed than you are, that's a problem, dude. step up!

give me a concise case on theD please, I'm just not seeing bunnies as scum from what i saw yesterday but i'm open to changing my mind on it

Why the fuck are you trying to get me lynched if you don't think I'm mafia? WTF, that's so illogical I can't fucking take it.

I'm just gonna ignore the shit out of you because your brain was clearly swapped at birth with Abby Normal

Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 13 2014 23:06 GMT
#1502
I wasn't, goof ball, I was acting like it because I'm tired of you deferring to your partner and I don't get your read and I know the best buttons to push to get you to play is to get in your face and make you mad. Do me a solid and give me your reasoning on why theD is scum so I can maybe come around on your target and help you kill them or at the very least not have to act like a dick to get some information out of you. K?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 23:28 GMT
#1503
i dont understand the false dichotomy robik plz explain
why "if you dont back off me i must lynch you even though i think you are town"
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 13 2014 23:29 GMT
#1504
Pretty sure ee wont die. If we die my reads are clear. Just add candy on top.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:04 GMT
#1505
On July 13 2014 06:06 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 05:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
The interactions that were had between like pages 24-29 (this is the way back machine as I read slow) between Marv/Palmar especially were weird. I feel like one if not both is mafia.

I have a theory about this but I'm saving it until nighttime because I want Slamroot dead and it's far more compelling if Slamroot does flip scum



Did you ever expand on this theory after teh flip? I read shit really fast so I could catch up cause bunnies is getting mad at me she apparently thinks were going to get misslynched.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:05 GMT
#1506
On July 13 2014 07:29 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 07:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually, I shouldn't have to apologize to you.
I did nothing wrong.

So I take back my sorry.

$10 says Banks told her that people who apologize are more-often than not mafia. I WANT A LINK TO YOUR QT ONCE THE GAME IS OVER!!!


Our QT is me trying to convince bunnies that we need to shit talk you more in the QT for being wrong so you can read it all post game and we can laugh.

Robik would you rather be Shit Tier or Mafia this game. You decide.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:06 GMT
#1507
On July 14 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Who cares. Just let him be. He's town


God this answer was the worst thing I've ever seen. Can you read rayn's partner? Like you basically have a town boner off one rayn post and then you don't revisit.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:16 GMT
#1508
Marv I'm too lazy to find that post where you asked about the read on you and Palmer from like the roaring 20s. I'm not 100% adverse to that read still. I honestly can't even describe what it was about the interaction that felt weird I just got a weird feeling. Honestly when I get feelings like that I'm usually right and its frustrating as fuck because I can't justify it with words or evidence so it gets passed up. (Happens a lot in video mafia to me) You did vote him though and he got all pissy and you unvoted later so I have reconsidered it a bit but I still think it was really odd.

Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:25 GMT
#1509
This is a question for the class. I wasn't caught up on the thread and barely posting. Do you think that Players like Rayn/Marv/Palmer/Koshi/Robik let that lynch go through on him without bringing up any sort of fight against it. Marv sort of did then afkd a bunch it seemed.

I'm scared that 2 of those are scum this game. (I put robik last because he's the shittiest player in that group) I really feel like Eden was sincere on his rally to kill Slam as well as OK. Despite their seniors really not doing much. I want it to be known that when bunnies was telling me about the Slam/Sqrt thing and asking what I thought about it my first inclination was that it probably meant that they were town cause of Slam's meta and that I don't think it will go through because one of the more outspoken townies will step up and stop it from happening.

I'm honestly surprised that didn't happen. You five tell me who you think would let that shit happen as town or as mafia.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:29 GMT
#1510
So in case Robik is scum I'm going to add my reads post in here They're mostly baseless and are subject to information changes.

Top Town: Bunnies' Team

Town Circle: Eden and OK's Team

This 5 contains 1-2 mafia almost always: Palmer/Marv/Rayn/Robik/Koshi

Likely to be mafia: Glowingbear's Team... That thing he said awhile back where he was like "I'm going to read the thread and find a scum read and dive their filter and then make a case on them" Seemed so much like "I'm planning on doing this and probably will do this because I think tahts what people think I should do as town"

Also Geripts post count thing could use some abbreviations as that is a headache to read but I understand its hard to get right. If anyone has ideas on how to fix it to be better that would be amazing.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:30 GMT
#1511
I need to interact with some people. Bunnies won't even talk to me in the QT cause she mad at me for pretending its a mafia QT.
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:32 GMT
#1512
ONE OF THE FIVE I"M TALKING ABOUT STEP UP aND LEAD TOWN CAUSE WE JUST DONKED OFF LYNCH 1. If you guys won't I'm going to have to and I'll start lynching into you blindly.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 14 2014 00:35 GMT
#1513
Imma shoot Robik I think, marv looks off his game.
Computer says mafia
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 00:36 GMT
#1514
No need for blind lynching into them, I've got a read on one.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:37 GMT
#1515
On July 14 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
Imma shoot Robik I think, marv looks off his game.


Palmer who besides you is mafia between Rayn/Marv/Robik/Koshi
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:37 GMT
#1516
On July 14 2014 09:36 Eden1892 wrote:
No need for blind lynching into them, I've got a read on one.


Where was it?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 14 2014 00:40 GMT
#1517
On July 14 2014 09:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
Imma shoot Robik I think, marv looks off his game.


Palmer who besides you is mafia between Rayn/Marv/Robik/Koshi

I'm not sure, it could be you guys, but this recent burst of activity is messing with me.

Robik is a dick and I avoid his posts. I however thought Exo looked sorta townie

Koshi and co I haven't read still.

Marv is agreeable with me, so that looks like town, but could also be him just knowing he can't really call me mafia if he is mafia. I don't know about his team, I'll need to read mderg probably to figure out what they are. But I'd say leaning town for now.

rayn and co I haven't read still.

I'm sorta counting on rayn calling out marv and vice versa if one is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:41 GMT
#1518
On July 14 2014 09:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 09:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
Imma shoot Robik I think, marv looks off his game.


Palmer who besides you is mafia between Rayn/Marv/Robik/Koshi

I'm not sure, it could be you guys, but this recent burst of activity is messing with me.

Robik is a dick and I avoid his posts. I however thought Exo looked sorta townie

Koshi and co I haven't read still.

Marv is agreeable with me, so that looks like town, but could also be him just knowing he can't really call me mafia if he is mafia. I don't know about his team, I'll need to read mderg probably to figure out what they are. But I'd say leaning town for now.

rayn and co I haven't read still.

I'm sorta counting on rayn calling out marv and vice versa if one is mafia.


I dont remember rayn EVER being this inactive. And I've never played with Rayn or Marv being mafia. You I've seen, Robik I've seen, and Koshi I saw be third party thats it.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 14 2014 00:42 GMT
#1519
On July 14 2014 09:04 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 06:06 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 13 2014 05:59 Tehpoofter wrote:
The interactions that were had between like pages 24-29 (this is the way back machine as I read slow) between Marv/Palmar especially were weird. I feel like one if not both is mafia.

I have a theory about this but I'm saving it until nighttime because I want Slamroot dead and it's far more compelling if Slamroot does flip scum



Did you ever expand on this theory after teh flip? I read shit really fast so I could catch up cause bunnies is getting mad at me she apparently thinks were going to get misslynched.

I didn't, and I guess now's as good a time as any.

My theory was that M&M was the mafia team out of that group. (I don't think Palmar is mafia so I don't think his team is mafia.) The rough case for it (amended with more recent comments):

  1. marv's post advocating for lynching GlowingBear yesterday was strange to me:
          
    • The post is almost entirely recap. Except for part of the elaboration on GlowingBear's reads not making sense, all of those arguments had already been said. They weren't really all that convincing to me the first time, so just repeating them didn't feel like it was advancing any discussion. And frankly (although I know this isn't a unanimous opinion), I just don't buy that slot being scum. The argument is sensible but I'm just not feeling it. Consequently I find it suspect that marv was just repeating it because to me, it sounds like an argument that scum would make -- something that is neither wrong nor right: a case that is understandable but ultimately incorrect, sufficient to look engaged and invested in the outcome while ensuring the outcome isn't a scum lynch.
    • The post was oddly ambiguous about Slamroot. To be honest I still don't see how anybody could have plausibly townread Slamroot at all. I don't understand how there could be any ambiguity about Slamroot's guilt before the flip.
    • The target and timing of the post felt opportunistic to me. marv came in while GlowingBear's slot was under fire, and posted a case that was largely built off of others' detective work. Then marv disappears for the rest of the day. I get that marv was busy irl so it's not the disappearance that bothers me, but in marv's shoes I would be factoring this into account and trying to push harder to get GlowingBear lynched while I was around to do it, and I would be pestering my partner to follow up and get GlowingBear lynched in my absence. I didn't feel like marv tried very hard to get that lynch, and while we obviously don't have access to the QuickTopic to see if marv bothered mderg to get GlowingBear lynched, we do have mderg's actions in the thread, which clearly don't push the case further at all.

  2. mderg's switch from GlowingBear's slot to Slamroot was inconsistent with his read on GlowingBear. He posts a case similar to marv's on that slot when he rejoins the thread, centering in large part about how GlowingBear's and Haru's reads are shady -- specifically highlighting GlowingBear's scumread on Slamroot -- and he specifically says that "the points on GlowingBear remain 100%" at the tail end of his conversation with Haru about the case. His next check-in he starts talking about how weird Slamroot is being, then he agrees with GlowingBear's scumread on Slamroot! If his top scumread is saying Slamroot is scummy, and his case on that slot is that the slot's Slamroot read doesn't make sense, why is he immediately agreeing with it? Nothing changed about Slamroot's behavior between those two points in time to justify a reconsideration. Furthermore what he says about sqrt, particularly re: Palmar, is literally the same argument GlowingBear, his top scum read for giving reads that don't make sense, said about sqrt as well! What changed??? To top it off it takes a long time for mderg to make the actual switch over to Slamroot, almost like he's trying to convince himself it's okay to hop on the bandwagon of somebody he knows will flip town.

  3. marv keeps saying really bizarre shit that doesn't make any sense from a townie perspective to me. I've harped on this example already, and I can go dig up more as needed. It's just these little things that kinda derail or try to derail a line of thought, they aren't damning on their own by any means but in combination and in tandem with the other points it's enough to make me want to lynch M&M.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
July 14 2014 00:43 GMT
#1520
On July 14 2014 09:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 09:37 Tehpoofter wrote:
On July 14 2014 09:35 Palmar wrote:
Imma shoot Robik I think, marv looks off his game.


Palmer who besides you is mafia between Rayn/Marv/Robik/Koshi

I'm not sure, it could be you guys, but this recent burst of activity is messing with me.

Robik is a dick and I avoid his posts. I however thought Exo looked sorta townie

Koshi and co I haven't read still.

Marv is agreeable with me, so that looks like town, but could also be him just knowing he can't really call me mafia if he is mafia. I don't know about his team, I'll need to read mderg probably to figure out what they are. But I'd say leaning town for now.

rayn and co I haven't read still.

I'm sorta counting on rayn calling out marv and vice versa if one is mafia.



Honestly I want to get a read on one of the seniors and then check it on the Junior. Its a really awesome game for town if people will play it well (I haven't been doing this so fixing the problem) Because you can read one half and then check it against the other.

I feel like bunnies has done a good job I'm surprised shes getting scum read alone. Because of me I understand but alone surprises me.
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