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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 17:56 GMT
#1461
On July 14 2014 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2014 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
On July 13 2014 15:04 GlowingBear wrote:
3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please?

marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts

honestly I can't really be bothered, because it's boring. I think anything you wrote could have been written by mafia, but Haru being weird on several occasions has made me leery of lynching you.

Take it or leave it my friend ^^


"Glowingbear threw random names"
*a huge post justifying my suspicions*
"Lol tl;dr too boring to read."


look, it's very very easy, hours and hours later, to write sensible things on almost any player. Any townie or any mafioso could do that. it's the way you went about it. you can't change that, i can't change that. If you told me you weren't capable of coming up with that large post as mafia I wouldn't believe you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 13 2014 17:56 GMT
#1462
On July 14 2014 02:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Who cares. Just let him be. He's town

No sorry. He needs to be here. With me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 13 2014 17:56 GMT
#1463
guys I'm trying to figure out who to shoot tonight, and it's taking up all my energy so I'll be more active tomorrow 4reals.

If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate them.
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 13 2014 17:57 GMT
#1464
On July 14 2014 02:56 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 02:30 GlowingBear wrote:
On July 13 2014 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
On July 13 2014 15:04 GlowingBear wrote:
3am here but I'm not feeling sleepy. Someone to talk please?

marv, please, bring your thoughts on my main posts

honestly I can't really be bothered, because it's boring. I think anything you wrote could have been written by mafia, but Haru being weird on several occasions has made me leery of lynching you.

Take it or leave it my friend ^^


"Glowingbear threw random names"
*a huge post justifying my suspicions*
"Lol tl;dr too boring to read."


look, it's very very easy, hours and hours later, to write sensible things on almost any player. Any townie or any mafioso could do that. it's the way you went about it. you can't change that, i can't change that. If you told me you weren't capable of coming up with that large post as mafia I wouldn't believe you.

I'm incapable of coming up with a large post as town
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 13 2014 17:59 GMT
#1465
On July 14 2014 02:56 Palmar wrote:
guys I'm trying to figure out who to shoot tonight, and it's taking up all my energy so I'll be more active tomorrow 4reals.

If you have any suggestions I'd appreciate them.

That depends. Do you want town to win or mafia to win?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 13 2014 17:59 GMT
#1466
On July 14 2014 02:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 02:33 Eden1892 wrote:
hm ok yah my scummy read-ish on m&m doesn't hold up anymore, a lot of it was ~~Unflipped Associations~~~ which can obviously be disregarded now that Slamroot is town. i guess if marv is alive tomorrow that changes??? but not really because now that we said it marv won't be shot?!?! unless the doctor will save marv while the cop checks marv and the jailer jails me because im confirmed town

lets go fam

i would lynch out of:
- wraystlimania
- robikexo

in particular i really dont like how robik wasn't trying to get his target lynched at all and it feels like he's been half-assing this game big-time. there's just a HUGE discrepancy between this:
On July 13 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 13 2014 03:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik where are you

Why is your vote not on Cabernet

I was taking a nap and I'm studying. I haven't moved my vote yet, but I don't think it really matters at this moment. voting is a pain in the ass, and as long as the thread is going in the direction I want, I don't feel like I really have to push any agenda. My vote will end up on sqrt/slam by the end unless things change drastically, but I still think poof/bunnies look sketch.

and
On July 13 2014 11:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 13 2014 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 13 2014 11:03 IAmRobik wrote:
From now on we lynch who I want to lynch -- not that I didn't want to lynch slam/sqrt, but Poofter/Bunnies is like 230941103248% mafia.

Cop should check them tonight, since they will 100% not die --> If Rayn jumps at this comment, I'm going to laugh my ass off at him.

That's a bizarre comment. Why does the flip mean we have to do what you want to do?

Cause I'm god and no one can be trusted but me (and ExO)

it's like "oh well the thread is going where i want so i dont care to try" -> lynch target flips town -> "ok we're doing what i want now fuck all yall u suck without my righteous guidance"

High Priest Eden Caretaker of the Garden rejects this false god and so should you

i feel like we're echo chambering about bunnies still, a lot of stuff she says sounds weird but when i reread it and assume she's town it's not that bad

she seems to be violating the "townies dont post without a direction" heuristic really badly tho so i can understand her as a lynch, i just dont like it. i want robik instead bc he's being a pussy and when robik is a pussy hes scum

Actually, this is pretty much what marv does as town (if i recall our conversation correctly). If he likes where the thread is going, he just sits back and lets shit happen, like when I bashed Plammmar's mafia face in in Heavyweight Champ. I like to change my play up a tiny bit here and there based off of my mood. My mood this game is to not try so damn hard, but to let my partner lead. He'll have a much better d2 than d1 in terms of analysis and posting. I think that he has a good grasp of games after d1.

I just kept up my usual town spam d1. I didn't really say anything important besides:
1) bunnies is scum cause I caught her
2) slam is scum cause he gave up and is super shady
3) rayn is town cause I read him as town within the first few posts of the game

I may have said some other stuff, but I really don't remember what they were anymore.

Oh, I said something about CR more likely town than scum based off of his entrance.

idgaf what you claim marv does as town, nor do i gaf what you claim you do as town, i gaf whether your words and actions match up and they don't at all

if you're "not trying so damn hard" and "let[ting] [your] partner lead" then wtf is this "ok we're lynching who i want to lynch now" shit
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 17:59 GMT
#1467
in heavyweight champs, btw, you said Palmar was mafia, everyone ignored you, I made an epic case and everyone sheeped me.

Your memory is a little off
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 18:00 GMT
#1468
On July 14 2014 02:59 Eden1892 wrote:
if you're "not trying so damn hard" and "let[ting] [your] partner lead" then wtf is this "ok we're lynching who i want to lynch now" shit

you're gonna have to explain to me why, in any way, this is a mafia trait and not a townie one.

Because I'll tell you for free - it's more likely to come from a townie.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 13 2014 18:01 GMT
#1469
On July 14 2014 02:59 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 02:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 14 2014 02:33 Eden1892 wrote:
hm ok yah my scummy read-ish on m&m doesn't hold up anymore, a lot of it was ~~Unflipped Associations~~~ which can obviously be disregarded now that Slamroot is town. i guess if marv is alive tomorrow that changes??? but not really because now that we said it marv won't be shot?!?! unless the doctor will save marv while the cop checks marv and the jailer jails me because im confirmed town

lets go fam

i would lynch out of:
- wraystlimania
- robikexo

in particular i really dont like how robik wasn't trying to get his target lynched at all and it feels like he's been half-assing this game big-time. there's just a HUGE discrepancy between this:
On July 13 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 13 2014 03:40 Eden1892 wrote:
Robik where are you

Why is your vote not on Cabernet

I was taking a nap and I'm studying. I haven't moved my vote yet, but I don't think it really matters at this moment. voting is a pain in the ass, and as long as the thread is going in the direction I want, I don't feel like I really have to push any agenda. My vote will end up on sqrt/slam by the end unless things change drastically, but I still think poof/bunnies look sketch.

and
On July 13 2014 11:20 IAmRobik wrote:
On July 13 2014 11:08 Eden1892 wrote:
On July 13 2014 11:03 IAmRobik wrote:
From now on we lynch who I want to lynch -- not that I didn't want to lynch slam/sqrt, but Poofter/Bunnies is like 230941103248% mafia.

Cop should check them tonight, since they will 100% not die --> If Rayn jumps at this comment, I'm going to laugh my ass off at him.

That's a bizarre comment. Why does the flip mean we have to do what you want to do?

Cause I'm god and no one can be trusted but me (and ExO)

it's like "oh well the thread is going where i want so i dont care to try" -> lynch target flips town -> "ok we're doing what i want now fuck all yall u suck without my righteous guidance"

High Priest Eden Caretaker of the Garden rejects this false god and so should you

i feel like we're echo chambering about bunnies still, a lot of stuff she says sounds weird but when i reread it and assume she's town it's not that bad

she seems to be violating the "townies dont post without a direction" heuristic really badly tho so i can understand her as a lynch, i just dont like it. i want robik instead bc he's being a pussy and when robik is a pussy hes scum

Actually, this is pretty much what marv does as town (if i recall our conversation correctly). If he likes where the thread is going, he just sits back and lets shit happen, like when I bashed Plammmar's mafia face in in Heavyweight Champ. I like to change my play up a tiny bit here and there based off of my mood. My mood this game is to not try so damn hard, but to let my partner lead. He'll have a much better d2 than d1 in terms of analysis and posting. I think that he has a good grasp of games after d1.

I just kept up my usual town spam d1. I didn't really say anything important besides:
1) bunnies is scum cause I caught her
2) slam is scum cause he gave up and is super shady
3) rayn is town cause I read him as town within the first few posts of the game

I may have said some other stuff, but I really don't remember what they were anymore.

Oh, I said something about CR more likely town than scum based off of his entrance.

idgaf what you claim marv does as town, nor do i gaf what you claim you do as town, i gaf whether your words and actions match up and they don't at all

if you're "not trying so damn hard" and "let[ting] [your] partner lead" then wtf is this "ok we're lynching who i want to lynch now" shit

Oh yeah. I forgot. We're lying who ExO wants to lynch (but I'm gonna heavily input on it in our QT -- a QT that NO ONE ELSE IS IN BUT ME AND EXO)
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 13 2014 18:01 GMT
#1470
On July 14 2014 02:59 marvellosity wrote:
in heavyweight champs, btw, you said Palmar was mafia, everyone ignored you, I made an epic case and everyone sheeped me.

Your memory is a little off

My case was better than yours.
Also, the case on Bunnies is really really similar to the one i made on palmar.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 18:03 GMT
#1471
i'm leaving v shortly for World Cup shenannies and may not be back tonight. if anyone desperately wants my uninformed opinion on something I can't remember reading, now's the time for it.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 13 2014 18:07 GMT
#1472
On July 14 2014 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 02:59 Eden1892 wrote:
if you're "not trying so damn hard" and "let[ting] [your] partner lead" then wtf is this "ok we're lynching who i want to lynch now" shit

you're gonna have to explain to me why, in any way, this is a mafia trait and not a townie one.

Because I'll tell you for free - it's more likely to come from a townie.

that's not really the point of my argument, i'm trying to tease out what he's saying

the problem is that robik didn't do a damn thing to influence the thread's direction the first day, and he outright gave the direction the green light on multiple occasions. then as soon as it goes wrong he acts like he has all the answers and we should just follow him because we're all stupid rubes who mislynched a townie. he's fucking gloating about us mislynching slamroot because he wasn't involved with it

please explain in what universe a townie gloats about the fact that town mislynched town because that townie didn't feel like influencing the thread away from the lynch
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 18:08 GMT
#1473
a universe that robik lives in, that's the universe.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 18:09 GMT
#1474
although your point does look better when you explain it like that, to be fair.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 13 2014 18:10 GMT
#1475
i'm calling bullshit and i'm frankly shocked that you're just okay with it, marv
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 18:12 GMT
#1476
you'd be amazed at the bullshit you see when you've played as many games as I've played my friend.

I learnt long ago that in the bullshit -> mafia chain, things are rarely that easy.

I'll look at it more tomorrow maybe if we're alive. Regardless I don't think it's outside the MO of how town-Robik operates.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
July 13 2014 18:13 GMT
#1477
i like you eden
but i'm sure you already knew that because we are LOUISIANA VOLTRON MASONs.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
July 13 2014 18:18 GMT
#1478
see that just feels handwavey as all hell to me

1) who cares if the bullshit -> mafia chain isn't always easy? you're not just gonna refuse to explore everything that's bullshit because the bullshit -> mafia chain doesn't always work, are you?
2) who cares if it's not outside town!robik's MO? mafia by definition aren't going to work outside of their town MO because if they do they get caught
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 13 2014 18:20 GMT
#1479
stop being silly.

1) never said that
2) if someone does something they might do as town, logically speaking it doesn't make sense to jump to the conclusion that they're mafia just because it's bullshit, as you're doing.

*waves hands*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 13 2014 18:43 GMT
#1480
On July 14 2014 03:07 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 14 2014 03:00 marvellosity wrote:
On July 14 2014 02:59 Eden1892 wrote:
if you're "not trying so damn hard" and "let[ting] [your] partner lead" then wtf is this "ok we're lynching who i want to lynch now" shit

you're gonna have to explain to me why, in any way, this is a mafia trait and not a townie one.

Because I'll tell you for free - it's more likely to come from a townie.

that's not really the point of my argument, i'm trying to tease out what he's saying

the problem is that robik didn't do a damn thing to influence the thread's direction the first day, and he outright gave the direction the green light on multiple occasions. then as soon as it goes wrong he acts like he has all the answers and we should just follow him because we're all stupid rubes who mislynched a townie. he's fucking gloating about us mislynching slamroot because he wasn't involved with it

please explain in what universe a townie gloats about the fact that town mislynched town because that townie didn't feel like influencing the thread away from the lynch

I didn't gloat. I said that he wasn't my top target, but that I thought he was scummy so I was cool with it. Learn to read and stop misinterpreting what I'm saying.

There's a reason I'm playing the game this way, and it's not because I am mafia. So stop calling me mafia. Stop saying that what I'm doing is something that mafia does (while it may be true, it's not in this case, so fuck that noise), and you can go back to scumhunting. Having said that, I trust my reads -- especially the minute ones -- better than i trust ZOMGTHISCASEISSOGOOD ones, so I want you, and everyone else in the game, to know that we're lynching who I say we're lynching tomorrow...KAPISH?
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