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On July 09 2014 14:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cora my issue is that you've now essentially boiled down your lynch preferences to policy-lynches. I know you think Robik is scum, but from my perspective I know that the things you think make Robik scum actually do not, and to me a vote for Robik is policy-lynching him for disliking his playstyle. You've also stated that you WOULD vote iamp to avoid nolynch, but only to avoid nolynch because you prefer Robik.
You say you went over a couple of filters looking for scummies. Did they turn up anything? Who did you read over?
I went over:
slOosh
Bunnies
ObiWan
Ritoky
Mderg
Iamp
Prp
It doesn't help that mderg, Ritoky, ObiWan, and slOosh all have filters with little content and no attempt to say who they think is scum (except slOosh's early read on Forumite which I completely disagree with). Of course, this same accusation can be extended to almost half the players here, so trying to lynch someone for these reasons is a crapshoot.
Bunnies is kind of in that boat, but she does have 4 pages of filter and a semi-case on Ritoky, so I don't feel like lynching her today.
I do like Prp's play so far (at least when compared to the 5 people I have mentioned before). I think he could be a bit more open with he thinks is scum, but I feel like he's trying to move discussion forward with his posts.
Iamp I just talked about, so yeah.
Is there someone that, in your opinion, I should be looking at?
And let's be honest, if Robik is town he really should rethink his strategy before trying to play another game of Mafia.
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does anybody in here think obiwan is town
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prplhz, thoughts on iamp please.
Cora, please address my post on page 65
On July 09 2014 14:47 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. So you are leaning scum on iamp because lots of his filter is fluff, and his scumread on you is weakstuff. But you don't want to lynch iamp because he has a long filter and would rather lynch people with weak reads. What? You lean scum on iamp but you are basically saying I don't want to lynch him. Please clarify.
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On July 09 2014 15:20 slOosh wrote:prplhz, thoughts on iamp please. Cora, please address my post on page 65 Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:47 slOosh wrote:On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. So you are leaning scum on iamp because lots of his filter is fluff, and his scumread on you is weakstuff. But you don't want to lynch iamp because he has a long filter and would rather lynch people with weak reads. What? You lean scum on iamp but you are basically saying I don't want to lynch him. Please clarify.
I'm really conflicted on how I feel about Iamp. While he has said some scummy things, he's also been one of the people who is posting a lot. If I was 100% sure about Iamp being scum, I would have voted for him and campaigned for his lynch. But I'm only about 10-15% about Iamp being scum, not as much as I am about Robik.
I don't want to vote a super-active person who actually has half-decent content in his posts over someone who has little content and no reads whatsoever. If we do that, we're just gonna be left with a crapshoot towards the end of the game.
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On July 09 2014 15:29 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 15:20 slOosh wrote:prplhz, thoughts on iamp please. Cora, please address my post on page 65 On July 09 2014 14:47 slOosh wrote:On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. So you are leaning scum on iamp because lots of his filter is fluff, and his scumread on you is weakstuff. But you don't want to lynch iamp because he has a long filter and would rather lynch people with weak reads. What? You lean scum on iamp but you are basically saying I don't want to lynch him. Please clarify. I'm really conflicted on how I feel about Iamp. While he has said some scummy things, he's also been one of the people who is posting a lot. If I was 100% sure about Iamp being scum, I would have voted for him and campaigned for his lynch. But I'm only about 10-15% about Iamp being scum, not as much as I am about Robik. I don't want to vote a super-active person who actually has half-decent content in his posts over someone who has little content and no reads whatsoever. If we do that, we're just gonna be left with a crapshoot towards the end of the game.
Now could you post maybe 2 or 3 "half-decent content" posts and explain why you like them?
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On July 07 2014 22:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2014 22:48 Koshi wrote:On July 07 2014 22:40 iamperfection wrote:On July 07 2014 22:32 Koshi wrote:
To correctly answer obviously.
Also, iamp, pls, Trying to read Koshi early game. So boring. So silly. So meh. is there a reason you dont want to be correctly read? I'm not like the rest of the jib jubs i rely on meta much less so i don't particularly care about your early game "meta". I don't have early game meta. But. I am Koshi. You know? Like, these posts. Why are they scummy? The questions you ask are more like you trying to figure out others than you trying to figure out my alignment tbh. Unless you are seeing how I react to you twice asking if I am scum. Because I gave the answer in my first post. The answer is bored. Your powers are needed elsewhere. I will do talky talky and you do hunty hunty. I have to explain to you why that post of yours was scummy?!?! It was long so therefore has the appearance that it wants to contribute some way but it in no way helps us hunt scum. Like no shit town should post and scum shouldn't be allowed to lurk everyone already knows that. If everyone already knows something there is no reason to post unless you are just posting for appearances which is a scummy mindset.
Early pressure and banter with Koshi.
On July 08 2014 03:25 iamperfection wrote:
Iamrobik is like the most active poster i dont think he is scum and should only reassess this if on day 6 when im long dead he is still around. worry about it then. Discussion on iamrobik being scum can stop.
An attempt to move the forward. Even though this is a ridiculously stupid read, it is an attempt for him to move the discussion away from something that he feels like isn't an issue/isn't worth being discussed.
This post basically sums up how I feel about him. He's doing townie things, but with really confusing reasoning. Perhaps this is scum Iamp trying to look townie? It all hinges on Robik's alignment though.
-His list post-
Putting his reads out there, you get it...
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And those posts are way better than anything Robik has said over the course of this game.
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On July 09 2014 15:20 slOosh wrote:prplhz, thoughts on iamp please. Cora, please address my post on page 65 Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 14:47 slOosh wrote:On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. So you are leaning scum on iamp because lots of his filter is fluff, and his scumread on you is weakstuff. But you don't want to lynch iamp because he has a long filter and would rather lynch people with weak reads. What? You lean scum on iamp but you are basically saying I don't want to lynch him. Please clarify.
i don't see the case on him but i might be wrong, he's a tentative town read in that i'd much rather like to lynch a bunch of other people over him
obiwan - town or scum?
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On July 09 2014 15:44 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 15:20 slOosh wrote:prplhz, thoughts on iamp please. Cora, please address my post on page 65 On July 09 2014 14:47 slOosh wrote:On July 09 2014 12:57 Corazon wrote:
Alright, so about Iamp:
Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.
I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.
On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.
I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance. So you are leaning scum on iamp because lots of his filter is fluff, and his scumread on you is weakstuff. But you don't want to lynch iamp because he has a long filter and would rather lynch people with weak reads. What? You lean scum on iamp but you are basically saying I don't want to lynch him. Please clarify. i don't see the case on him but i might be wrong, he's a tentative town read in that i'd much rather like to lynch a bunch of other people over him obiwan - town or scum?
Leaning scum, but not as scummy as iamp. Much stronger read on iamp.
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On July 09 2014 15:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i think im pretty town.
No one cares if you think you are town. Who do you think is scum?
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Ok I'ma head out for the night, but people seriously need to at least read iamp.
Here's my general beef with him, off the top of my head.
He basically whines a lot about people not doing anything, while him himself not doing anything to focus town to lynching scum.
He drops a huge reads post when it was totally unnecessary. Why bother with all of the town & null reads?
From his scum reads, he does nothing to try to actually get them lynched. He basically goes "here I said stuff, why aren't you guys doing anything".
Convoluted thinking concerning Robik with regards to the possibility of two scum factions.
I'll end with Foolishness' case from catastrophe, where iamp was scum (do not dismiss this as meta because it's not meta. It's analysis that pertains to this game)
On April 04 2014 15:13 Foolishness wrote:
Foolishness states that the way to find the mafia in this situation is to look at those people who are active but not actually accomplishing anything. Mafia don't fear to post in a chaotic situation but they will never try to steer the town into a better place.
"iamperfection is one of the best examples of that this game," reports Foolishness. "His attempt to get people onto Balla24/Blazinghand is the most convenient case in the world. If you're mafia in a game, wouldn't you just love it if some idiot is proposing random lynch? You get to call him an idiot AND look town for doing so!"
Despite all that, iamperfection has yet to post a real read on a player or situation. The filter demonstrates that he doesn't have any true scumreads other than the easy picking Blazinghand and only has a few haphazard town reads. Secondly, iamperfection is making demands of the town without doing so himself.
"Mafia love to tell the town that they are sucking because they are making a true statement, and as a town it's hard to look past someone who is telling you the truth. However townies will always try to rectify the situation while mafia just sit back and enjoy the show."
"Note how he tells people to talk and generate discussion without doing so himself. He doesn't even have a post that's longer than 2 lines!"
Foolishness encourages everyone to read the report and his filter. Of course he's not playing a perfect game, but he fits the identifying bill as mafia. Not contributing yet still active, pushing easy cases, telling the town to generate discussion without doing so himself.
Foolishness believes that the evidence is good enough to warrant a day 1 lynch and that currently nobody has a better case.
##Vote: iamperfection
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On July 09 2014 16:00 Corazon wrote:hurble durble
i cant hear you over how fucking town i am.
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also yamato thinking his case is anything other than awful is scummy.
glad to see hes playing this time though.
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Sloosh, it's probably a good lynch, but I like Forumite more due to the JEEPs tell
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On July 09 2014 16:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:00 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 15:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i think im pretty town. hurble durble i cant hear you over how fucking town i am.
Please tone it down.
Could please give your read on iamp and/or your strongest scum read.
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On July 09 2014 16:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:00 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 15:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i think im pretty town. hurble durble i cant hear you over how fucking town i am.
LOL
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oh btw why isnt bm playing anything like he did over in order?
like he isnt posting at all and its weird. he was super fucking town that game but hes not even around this time.
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On July 09 2014 16:14 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 09 2014 16:00 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 15:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i think im pretty town. hurble durble i cant hear you over how fucking town i am. Please tone it down. Could please give your read on iamp and/or your strongest scum read.
i could.
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On July 09 2014 16:14 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 16:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 09 2014 16:00 Corazon wrote:On July 09 2014 15:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
i think im pretty town. hurble durble i cant hear you over how fucking town i am. LOL
'lo and behold he appears.
hello sir.
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