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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 09 2014 03:45 GMT
#1261
To build on to the argument, town|forumite would evaluate everyone who tried to pressure him since it was easy for scum to hop on the forumitewagon. Scum|forumite would instantly feel relieved and settle down for a sheep to get past d1.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 09 2014 03:47 GMT
#1262
On July 09 2014 12:43 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 12:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:30 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:20 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.

Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus.

##Vote: iamperfection


Also, how do you townread forumite after he looked so happy not being lynched? Would a town go 'yea as long as you dont lynch me any read is fine'?

I would like to answer your question with 2 questions:

1. Do you really want to get lynched? (Give me a real answer, I won't judge you for it)
2. Would mafia just simply go out and say they dont want to be lynched plainly?


I dont mind getting lynched if I fucked up. But if someone decides to mislynch me with bad reasoning ill flip.

Yes and no. Think about it this way. Scum knows its too obvious to blatantly say that they don't want to be lynched, so most of the time it will be townread.


TBH that second response seems like a lot of WIFOM to me.


A wise man once said

"WIFOM makes the world go round" - alexander the great

Ok probably I made that quote up. And they didnt know the world was round at that point in time either.

Anyway, WIFOM is what scum uses to deflect argument. It is easy to contribute most arguments as WIFOM. You just need to think what town|forumite will do as opposed to scum|forumite. In this case, it makes more sense for scum|forumite to do this. This is because he aggressively townread people early on, aroused suspicions and then quickly tried to put pressure off himself. After a whole day of forumite bbq, he is finally able to take the pressure off him and the first thing he says is 'at least im not lynched so lets sheep this case'. Definitely doesnt feel town.

Alright, I disagree with you on this and I guess that makes our reads different. Not much else to say about it
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HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 09 2014 03:51 GMT
#1263
On July 09 2014 12:47 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 12:43 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:33 Corazon wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:30 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote:
On July 09 2014 12:20 HaruRH wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:53 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:38 Toadesstern wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:34 Forumite wrote:
On July 09 2014 06:29 Toadesstern wrote:
no "if X is mafia that makes Y whatever" before people flip, especially on d1. Yes you should be on either iamp or on forumite. I'm actually in favor of iamp as well but have to watch this rape of a football game

What´s the case on iamp?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/461003-tl-mafia-lxvii-storm-mafia-2?page=55#1082

Koshis post in there and what I wrote in addition when I looked at his town games to doublecheck that.

Thanks. Yes, I remember reading that case, it´s quite good, also it´s not about lynching me which is a bonus.

##Vote: iamperfection


Also, how do you townread forumite after he looked so happy not being lynched? Would a town go 'yea as long as you dont lynch me any read is fine'?

I would like to answer your question with 2 questions:

1. Do you really want to get lynched? (Give me a real answer, I won't judge you for it)
2. Would mafia just simply go out and say they dont want to be lynched plainly?


I dont mind getting lynched if I fucked up. But if someone decides to mislynch me with bad reasoning ill flip.

Yes and no. Think about it this way. Scum knows its too obvious to blatantly say that they don't want to be lynched, so most of the time it will be townread.


TBH that second response seems like a lot of WIFOM to me.


A wise man once said

"WIFOM makes the world go round" - alexander the great

Ok probably I made that quote up. And they didnt know the world was round at that point in time either.

Anyway, WIFOM is what scum uses to deflect argument. It is easy to contribute most arguments as WIFOM. You just need to think what town|forumite will do as opposed to scum|forumite. In this case, it makes more sense for scum|forumite to do this. This is because he aggressively townread people early on, aroused suspicions and then quickly tried to put pressure off himself. After a whole day of forumite bbq, he is finally able to take the pressure off him and the first thing he says is 'at least im not lynched so lets sheep this case'. Definitely doesnt feel town.

Alright, I disagree with you on this and I guess that makes our reads different. Not much else to say about it


Dont worry, my d1 reads are usually rubbish since I need time to read up on responses, voting patterns and eod results before I come up with any solid conclusion.

Sometimes when I look back to my d1 reads I disagree with them too
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Corazon
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States3230 Posts
July 09 2014 03:57 GMT
#1264
Alright, so about Iamp:

Whether we lynch Iamp or not will determine how we go about this game. A majority of the players in this game have almost no filter and have no expressed their opinion whatsoever. Town will lose if this continues to be the case. Sure we will eventually vote people out, but town is going to cruise into loserville if we vote haphazardly.

I'm slightly leaning towards scum on Iamp because his filter is 6 pages and only 5% of it contains statements that show what his opinions of other players are. A lot of his posts are just filler, answering questions, or one-liner stuff. There's also the issue in his reads post that the explanation of his scumread on me is weak at best (and a lot worse than the other two), yet I'm his top scum read. That makes no sense at all and it seems like he just has an agenda to get me lynched.

On the other hand, Iamp does have the longest filter in the game (or at least close if Koshi's is longer) and if he is town, he will be able to actually get us far. Since I really think we should lynch into the pool of players who have not shown their reads or have weak reads that are based off of absolutely nothing, I would prefer if we not lynched Iamp today. However, if I had to choose between Iamp and a no-lynch, I would lynch Iamp.

I hope that clears my stance on him. I still think a Robik lynch would be good because he's just playing like a chicken with his head cut off plus some players have actually defended Robik by saying that they think he's actually justifying his reads and that he is being "active" (which is really puzzling to me), which would put more value into a Robik lynch than one might think at first glance.
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IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
July 09 2014 04:03 GMT
#1265
I still have yet to have Cora answer my questions or ask me questions or justify his maf read on me other than lying about me not doing anything

The only thing that he has against me that's real is my long filter...but that doesn't make me scummy at all.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2014 04:12 GMT
#1266
Ok, I dunno if it's just me or people haven't actually read iamps' read dump closely, but is this not bothering anyone?

On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote:
IAmRobik I think he is town. Way to active. Way to confident. Drawing a ton of attention to himself. He has been budding me a lot which gives me slight pause but i would only worry about that if there are multiple scum factions


The possibility never even entered my mind, and storm 1 didn't have it, so it just boggles me that a town would ever think like this.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 09 2014 04:19 GMT
#1267
So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.

Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.

That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2014 04:28 GMT
#1268
On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.

Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.

That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.

Yeah let's talk about my post just now.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 09 2014 04:29 GMT
#1269
On July 09 2014 13:28 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.

Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.

That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.

Yeah let's talk about my post just now.


Which one?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
July 09 2014 04:32 GMT
#1270
Hi exo
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
July 09 2014 04:32 GMT
#1271
>.>

On July 09 2014 13:12 slOosh wrote:
Ok, I dunno if it's just me or people haven't actually read iamps' read dump closely, but is this not bothering anyone?

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote:
IAmRobik I think he is town. Way to active. Way to confident. Drawing a ton of attention to himself. He has been budding me a lot which gives me slight pause but i would only worry about that if there are multiple scum factions


The possibility never even entered my mind, and storm 1 didn't have it, so it just boggles me that a town would ever think like this.

Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 09 2014 04:36 GMT
#1272
On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.

Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.

That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.

Fwiw kings county is dreck

Paid my riverside ticket online

Not kings, use mail, touchtone phone, or in-person
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 09 2014 04:39 GMT
#1273
On July 09 2014 13:32 slOosh wrote:
>.>

Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 13:12 slOosh wrote:
Ok, I dunno if it's just me or people haven't actually read iamps' read dump closely, but is this not bothering anyone?

On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote:
IAmRobik I think he is town. Way to active. Way to confident. Drawing a ton of attention to himself. He has been budding me a lot which gives me slight pause but i would only worry about that if there are multiple scum factions


The possibility never even entered my mind, and storm 1 didn't have it, so it just boggles me that a town would ever think like this.



Oh. This one.

Well, it didn't really stand out in anyway to me tbh.

Like I've mentioned before, I'm reading Iap as town, while others are reading him for things that I don't necessarily find scummy.

For this certain read: would scum bring up multiple scum factions? Especially if town doesn't know? Sounds like he would be giving up a lot of information for town to use against him.

What all did storm 1 have? I never read or played in that game?

It might actually be nice to know what we're dealing with this game.

Also Iamp used the wrong version of too.

The one thing that bothers me about Iamp's read on robik is what I bolded.
Why does Robik's buddying of iamp mean there are multiple scum factions? Why would he worry only then?

Why can't robik's buddying of iamp just mean he is scum?

So yeah, that's what I find weird about that post.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 09 2014 04:40 GMT
#1274
On July 09 2014 13:36 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.

Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.

That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.

Fwiw kings county is dreck

Paid my riverside ticket online

Not kings, use mail, touchtone phone, or in-person


Yeah it's stupid. I forgot about it before like five minutes ago.

Got a letter saying that if I didn't send in all my paperwork saying i completed the course, I'd be arrested.

Really don't need that.

Like, I was only going 14mph over the speed limit!

hehe
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
July 09 2014 04:41 GMT
#1275
Sloosh, to answer your question:

"There may be more than 2 factions in the game." - shamelessly ripped from the op

I think it is kinda alright to think about other factions in this case.
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 09 2014 04:41 GMT
#1276
On July 09 2014 13:40 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2014 13:36 Alakaslam wrote:
On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote:
So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.

Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.

That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.

Fwiw kings county is dreck

Paid my riverside ticket online

Not kings, use mail, touchtone phone, or in-person


Yeah it's stupid. I forgot about it before like five minutes ago.

Got a letter saying that if I didn't send in all my paperwork saying i completed the course, I'd be arrested.

Really don't need that.

Like, I was only going 14mph over the speed limit!

hehe

I was going nearly double
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 09 2014 04:42 GMT
#1277
Wow, I just realized my post was a mess of thoughts.

My mind feels like I'm half focusing and then....squirrel!

Bleh.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2014 04:43 GMT
#1278
I'm going to put a vote up, and i'm going to vote for ##Exo_.

Even though he has a history of lurking as a villager and not engaging with others especially early on, in my experience with him he usually isn't combative. And in the few things he has written he has come off as confident more so than is normal for him being a townie.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
July 09 2014 04:44 GMT
#1279
On July 09 2014 13:41 HaruRH wrote:
Sloosh, to answer your question:

"There may be more than 2 factions in the game." - shamelessly ripped from the op

I think it is kinda alright to think about other factions in this case.


Oh yeah! You're right.

So then Iamp's thing about there being more than one scum faction isn't all that bad.

However, his read on robik buddying him and there being more than 2 factions means robik is scum thing is a bit weird.

Iamp, why?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
July 09 2014 04:47 GMT
#1280
On July 09 2014 13:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Wow, I just realized my post was a mess of thoughts.

My mind feels like I'm half focusing and then....squirrel!

Bleh.

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