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On July 12 2014 06:01 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Forumite
Somewhere somebody said this guy was town. But I can't vote BM when there is a scummy guy holding on to a townread like this. On July 12 2014 06:04 Koshi wrote:
No wait.
Forumite give me a bunch of games in which BM plays like this as town. 2-3 page filter, hardly any content by end of D2.
Whatever, I´m sticking to my read, not going to lynch BM. I don´t care if you lynch me tonight, I´d rather have that than be the LYLO-lynch.
I´m putting back my vote on mderg in 15minutes and then going to sleep. It should put it at 10 votes, 11 needed to lynch. If you want to avoid the risk of a hammer then someone unvote.
Soon going to: Vote mderg
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I'd be fine with all three of forumite, BM and mderg to be honest and willing to instahammer any of the three really but I do want the additional time pretty please.
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On July 12 2014 06:12 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 06:07 Koshi wrote:On July 12 2014 06:04 Toadesstern wrote:On July 12 2014 05:54 Koshi wrote:On July 12 2014 05:53 Toadesstern wrote:
Has BM explained why he picked Sinani, the guy he never mentioned in his filter even just once before the claim yet?
As far as I know, no he hasn't... I still think he scumslipped and nothing else with his RB. He did not know that there are no RB-notifications. If he did not know that fact there's no reason to do that as a townie.
As for mderg, I agree with Koshi, I like that post from him. So how did BM know that Sinani visited me? never said he's not a tracker, I said the RB part was a lie and he wasn't aware of there not being notifications. He hasn't even explained why he lied about the RB yet. Put yourself in his shoes and let's assume you're a townie who's lying for some reason. So you got figured out and people point out the no notification. Would you really just ignore that? Hell no, you would explain your stupid plan and how it's supposed to catch mafia and how awesome it is and how that's the reason he lied. He never cared to explain that part, that's because he never cared about the RB to begin with and just did it for shitz and giggles without a reason. Why would you do that as town? I agree. But claiming RB for shitz and giggles is really strange. Especially because I don't see what he could gain from it as mafia. Towncred? meh. I was voting BM btw, so it's not that I don't see what you mean. I've seen people either claim being RB'ed as mafia or at least discussing it in mafia QT in I think about 4 out of my last 5 games as mafia? Maybe that trend stopped over the last year but for what I know shooting and RB'ing the same guy on n1 when you have very little reads about blues, thus hiding your RB and claiming it on one of your own guys for towncred is probably the most common mafia strategy on all of TL mafia? Even better in this game because you don't have to hide it because no notifications...
Ok sure. But still.
Why not go on with the RB thing then and say he is a tracker but got no result back?
the next night he tracks somebody who is town and everybody is all like "amagad BM is totes town tracker who got RB n1"
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no result would be the same as tracking a VT I assume so it wouldn't really explain the "I got rb'ed" at all
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oh yeah true.
Anyhoezels. You are really on fire today with all the role speculation talk.
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It's not role speculation Koshi, it's behavioral analysis.
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That should still be one off of treshhold because of the unvote, right?
well my case on iamP failed horribly. My case on Forumite is still up in the air.
My single point on Obi where I mentioned "lol doesn't sound like you're part of town" was a huge success and I'd say it's the same thing really. Not really role speculation that much but rather wether things make sense given what they said. That's the reason I was so much on him not ever mentioning Sinani before the claim but allegedly having him picked over a Forumite who scumslipped according to BM.
I did think about the possibility that our Mystery Man (now known as Sinani) could be the guy who masoned you but thought better of it because BM should have gotten 2 trackresults that way.
Anyways I agree that mderg or forumite are the safer options here. BM has that slight chance to be just whatever.
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On July 12 2014 06:16 Toadesstern wrote:
I'd be fine with all three of forumite, BM and mderg to be honest and willing to instahammer any of the three really but I do want the additional time pretty please.
This is pretty much where I'm at too. I'm not seeing a whole lot that's redeeming in mderg's reads post, and Forumite is still skating by not scumhunting at all. His most substantive contribution is his nigh unexplained reluctance to vote for BM, and his policing of this mderg lynch. I'm not seeing any signs that Forumite is applying any kind of critical thought to this game at all. BM is scum until he comes in here and explains A) what he was doing with that RB claim and B) why he tracked Sinani instead of Forumite, someone he was pushing HARD to lynch yesterday. Someone he was sure SCUMSLIPPED.
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On July 12 2014 05:05 layabout wrote:
dude i havent even read everything yet but i have still manage to post about what is relevant
that was totally not worth the wait we should have just killed him
there´s reads on 11 of 20 players left in the game. I think that´s worth it.
On July 12 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:
Question for mderg, why do you have layabout and Haru posted as scum but you voted for someone that you were leaning scum in such a knee jerk fashion? It would probably of been less scummy going for one of them rather than voteing exo like you did if you had such a scum read on them to.
I voted Exo because his post looked awful at that moment. I don´t keep lists who is exactly how scummy all the time, so the vote was a decision for that moment. Also layabout wasn´t that scummy at the point I voted, he just got way down in my list because wanting the hammer.
I could have changed the vote but that wouldn´t have changed anything. I will 99,9% be lynched anyway.
On July 12 2014 05:39 Koshi wrote:town in world cupscum in detention mafiascum in Normal mini numberedtown in Glory seeker mafiaOk so here is some meta. If you look at the scum games you see that mderg starts a lot of sentences with "I think" "I don't think" "I don't like" etc. He doesn't do it in World Cup. He doesn't do it here. Sadly he does it a lot in Glory Seeker mafia as town as well. so meh. Anybody else seeing differences or similarities? Time to get some towncred and be useful guys!
I do that all the time as either alignment. Sometimes more sometimes less but that doesn´t depend on my alignment.
On July 12 2014 05:21 layabout wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 05:15 Koshi wrote:On July 12 2014 05:12 layabout wrote:
sorry 2 leaning town
if he is saying there are only 5 people he thinks could be town then he isn't keeping up i have about 12 Yeah, but you aren't on the chopping block. If he is town he might wants his reads to be really valuable. So he is not going to take the risk of calling people town whom he is not sure off. In your list of 12. Are these 5 the strongest townreads? nope, not close he doesn't have any of the townreads on people that have less presence or might get overlooked but have still done enough to look town for example sinani or alakaslam, you know the read that you get if you are paying attentionj behind or not. he has instead gone for people who tend to have more presence and attention like toad you and ve, the kind of townies that look more obvious to mafia since they are worried about people listening to them
It´s funny how you mention those two. I think thread sentiment on them is town. So it´s unlikely they´d get mislynched.
There´s one vote missing on me, right? If you want I can hammer myself.
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Don't hammer yourself, but if you want to claim now would be the time to do it.
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On July 12 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Don't hammer yourself, but if you want to claim now would be the time to do it.
I would have done that already
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Let's play a game here everyone. There are two players who both have a lot of suspicion on them. The majority of players have expressed suspicion on these two and there have been only 1 or 2 players who have voiced any defenses of these suspects. Yet one of them is on the verge of being hammered and the other has had two votes on him all game long. Which of these do you think is more likely mafia?
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Could I ask you guys to wait another 4 hours before you hammer mderg? I won't be home for work until then. I think there's a lot of good info especially in the last 5 pages and I would appreciate the opportunity to comment on it.
But I'll understand if no one wants to wait for me.
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On July 12 2014 06:50 HiroPro wrote:
Let's play a game here everyone. There are two players who both have a lot of suspicion on them. The majority of players have expressed suspicion on these two and there have been only 1 or 2 players who have voiced any defenses of these suspects. Yet one of them is on the verge of being hammered and the other has had two votes on him all game long. Which of these do you think is more likely mafia?
what did you make of forumite vs IamP yesterday?
That's an argument that can be made both ways.
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On July 12 2014 07:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2014 06:50 HiroPro wrote:
Let's play a game here everyone. There are two players who both have a lot of suspicion on them. The majority of players have expressed suspicion on these two and there have been only 1 or 2 players who have voiced any defenses of these suspects. Yet one of them is on the verge of being hammered and the other has had two votes on him all game long. Which of these do you think is more likely mafia? what did you make of forumite vs IamP yesterday? That's an argument that can be made both ways.
mm, it's definitely worth considering. however, it is less valid as forumite definitely did have more of a contingent willing to vote for him (at least 7 from what I see).
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Phone posting
mderg if you read them as town and you were town you would have said
plus all this posturing about voting for yourself is typically something mafia said
can we flip him? Fuck all is going to happen and i am tired of waiting
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On July 12 2014 07:36 layabout wrote:
can we flip him? Fuck all is going to happen and i am tired of waiting
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I second the sentiment.
I understand wanting to max out day lengths, but right now momentum is slowing down and I don't really know what people want more time to discuss exactly.
Also he is voting exo for not considering him scum. Doesn't make sense.
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EPT
