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On June 25 2014 04:38 Snickers wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 03:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2014 00:43 Snickers wrote:
(I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am Not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum.)2,000,000
Anyway koshi has contributed more than VE is you ask me. Why is Sloosh not scum? No he hasn't, plus that doesn't mean he's not scum.I misread SlOosh, thought I had proof that he's town but I actually don't. Bleh, if I did carpet bombing would work. On June 25 2014 03:18 slOosh wrote:
Artanis, I find it quite unlikely that both Lazermonkey and Koshi could both be scum. Do you agree?
If so, who do you think is the second scum after Koshi? At first glance I don't see why not. Why do you think they can't? How am I suppose to trust your reads, when you do not even understand a simple comment. Never said "he's not scum". I was showing you how dumb it was to think someone is scum because he is saying he is not scum. So you really only have one point.
It's not hard to understand. Koshi's and VE's meta are different. What looks scummy to some for VE does not necessarily make him scum. Meta was a large part of why I defended VE; I knew this is how he plays town now. You're also clearly misunderstanding my point on Koshi there. My complaint is that all he keeps saying is "I'm not scum" and doesn't actually add anything which is not characteristic for his town play, where he actually shows that he's not scum by his actions.
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On June 25 2014 04:42 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 25 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:
A strong mutually antagonistic posturing against each other. You might be right. I think BH can be scum as well. Tunneled on two townies now. Also, some more stuff on Koshi: Start of D3: On June 22 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. Lazermonkey wasn't there during the lynch. Then suddenly right before lynch he comes in and votes on Bh while on D1 he was against a bunnies lynch but still voted her. Why consolidate D1 but not D2? He also didn't do anything D2 but tunnel town for doing nothing.
I agree with Artanis that VE is town from mderg filter. I was a bit too focused on the mderg scumread into voting BH earlier. It would be pretty insane scumplay to buss each other with big cases into moving away from each other right before lynch.
For me scummers are: Lazermonkey/Sloosh First time he mentions VE after that: On June 23 2014 03:15 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 03:08 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
SlOosh Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate? I think this logic is pretty terrible. I agree. Wat. I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do. 1 more Question. Why is VE not mafia? No evaluation. Calls VE town, then suddenly asks Lazer why VE is not mafia. There were no cases in between on BH for Koshi to re-eval, nor did Koshi mention anything about re-evaluating VE. He was interacting with Lazer at the time, considered VE town then suddenly wonders why Lazer doesn't think VE is mafia. If there's anything in Koshi's fluffy post you want me to respond to I'll be happy to do so, but I don't see an added value for taking it apart piece by piece as a lot of it will be discussing non-alignment indicative things. The entire post is filled with nothing to push town forward and is full of emotional appeals that are frankly disgusting. If you can't handle the heat of someone calling you scum don't play the game. I asked that because in Lazermonkey his filter he said the entirity of D1 that VE is scum. Then he said SloOsh was his top scumread and I wanted to bait him saying something strong about VE and therefore said "Why is VE not scum?". To bait a strong reaction. Not because I thought that VE was scum. That's how I scumhunt.
That's a fair explanation.
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No wait. In his reads post LM said that his top scumreads were Koshi/VE and then after rereading D2 he said SloOsh/Koshi.
So I said "Why is VE mafia not mafia" because something must have happened in his rereading. Because he sticked to all his other reads but VE didn't get mentioned again. I wanted to see a reaction.
LM then dodged this question and his promised big post later he again to explain everything but then when he explained everything he against flipped SloOsh and VE around and was more scum on VE again and the reasons to why SloOsh was scum during his reread was minimized to "SloOsh is scum for being on the wrong wagon" and "general voting".
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Ok so why do people just straight up say how they scum hunt. That is the most confusing sentence and actual move I have seen yet.
Yea I do not see people going for koshi tomorrow so stop trying to make fetch happen.
Did you try to make mderg happen this much day one or YKZ happen day two.
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On June 25 2014 05:02 Snickers wrote:
Ok so why do people just straight up say how they scum hunt. That is the most confusing sentence and actual move I have seen yet.
Yea I do not see people going for koshi tomorrow so stop trying to make fetch happen.
Did you try to make mderg happen this much day one or YKZ happen day two.
VisceraEyes (6): Snickers, Koshi, Release, Chezinu, YouKnowZhou, Lazermonkey
Koshi (3): Artanis[Xp], VisceraEyes, slOosh - Unvotes (2): YouKnowZhou, Lazermonkey
The only alternative wagon to VE yesterday, that had a majority at the original deadline and someone a lot of people think are scum being a fetch. I'm not sure what you're smoking but I need some of that. I also have no idea why you're trying to dissuade me from chasing after my scumspects.
I didn't have scumread on mderg on D1, that's why I didn't try to get him lynched on D1. I didn't have a scumread on YKZ, so I didn't try to get him lynched D2. What are you talking about?
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On June 25 2014 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 25 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:
A strong mutually antagonistic posturing against each other. You might be right. I think BH can be scum as well. Tunneled on two townies now.
If I am, and Chezinu is town (I think so), then by process of elimination, BH must be scum. Between Lazermonkey and Koshi I still believe Lazermonkey has a higher chance of flipping scum than Koshi does.
You may disagree, and ok, that's fine. What we can agree on, is that if at most one of Koshi / Lazermonkey is scum, then the other scum must be somewhere. So you order your town reads and whoever is at the bottom is probably scum.
For me, it's BH. Who is it for you? Because if it's BH, I think it's in our best interest to lynch BH.
Additionally, VE maintained throughout that BH was lynching him in a "wrong manner". If you've ever been mislynched / lynched, you have the strongest sense of what seems reasonable and what seems terrible. VE pointed out that the manner in which BH pushed was very off. I can't speak for VE's recent meta since I took a hiatus for a while, but assuming he is still a good town player, I'd really put more weight on his reads, especially his read from his perspective on BH.
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On June 22 2014 06:30 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 17:45 slOosh wrote:So ... I don't know how to feel. My reads feel like the garbage  VE I'll get back to you on the Lazermonkey read. Just wallowing for a while. Right, slept it off, feeling fresh. From what I recall D1, Lazermonkey felt decent. It seemed like he was involved in some discussions and talking, so I waived him as probs town and didn't read too carefully. On a reread, his vote on mderg came right before deadline when it was reasonably clear that bunnies would be lynched. It also isn't clear why he thought mderg is scum - the one time he voted he backed off the next post reasoning why he isn't scum. His D2 play looks far worse and I feel is best summed up by this quote (for which I read strong town on Koshi prior to flip) Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 06:03 Koshi wrote:On June 21 2014 06:02 Lazermonkey wrote:
Please look at Koshi's filter and look ät all thé scum hunting he has done... Owait.
Vote him. Please be more disconnected about what is happening this day. He makes no effort to understand any of the wagons and instead opts out of discussion, picking on Koshi and soft defending mderg: Show nested quote +On June 20 2014 22:56 Lazermonkey wrote:On June 20 2014 19:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH, I'm not a newbie player. I know that similarities does not necessarily mean the same alignment, but previous games can give you insights into their mind. Particularly a scum qt can be enlightening. It told me mderg is someone that thinks before he posts as scum, which is a point against him being scum this game.
I'm not up for a mderg lynch at this point in time. I am up for a Koshi lynch though.
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##Vote Koshi This is also a good point brought up. Everyone that is voting mderg should explain why they vote him very very clearly and why the reason you vote him makes him scum. Explain how that action isn't likely to have come out of a newbie town player also. After all is said and done, his final vote lands on YKZ: Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 08:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
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I Mderg is probably a crappy lynch. But there are still too few voters on YKZ... w/e.
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##Vote: YKZ "w/e". Votes are flying everywhere, people are scrambling to figure stuff out and "w/e". No reads on YKZ anywhere, still holding onto the mderg town read all the way from D1, no engaging in any discussion of D2. Very good chance of scum. Also, VE, I'd rather a YKZ read than a Snickers read given how D2 went down since I suspect the same kind of resulting observations, but you can do whatever since you've earned it.
On June 24 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2014 09:02 Kurumi wrote:Night 1 The People's Committee has decided. 27ninjabunnies had a short walk with the Sheriff, confessing her sins. Burning dolls, stealing change from the laundromats, eating pie before it was cool. Nothing bad. Was it all? + Show Spoiler +27ninjabunnies the Vanilla Townie has died to lynch!Final Vote Count - Day 1: 27ninjabunnies (7): YouKnowZhou, Artanis[Xp], mderg, Chezinu, Koshi, slOosh, goodkarma YouKnowZhou (1): Release mderg (4): Snickers, VisceraEyes, 27ninjabunnies, Lazermonkey Currently Not Voting (0): None!
27ninjabunnies is lynched with 7 votes! Show nested quote +On June 21 2014 09:00 Kurumi wrote:Night 2 The People's Committee was a very hot place today. The evidence seemed to be daunting on couple of the villagers, but consensus was hard to reach. The rules were clear for every person in the room. Kill so we have a chance before they kill us. The two candidates were both very scared of the verdict. One of them had that fear fulfilled and changed into true terror. It was mderg. He left the room with The Sheriff. After couple of minutes and most likely mderg begging for his life a shot pierced the village. + Show Spoiler +mderg the Mafia Goon was lynched! Final vote tally mderg (5): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Release, YouKnowZhou, Chezinu - Unvotes (1): Snickers YouKnowZhou (5): slOosh, VisceraEyes, Snickers, mderg, Lazermonkey - Unvotes (2): Release, Artanis[Xp] VisceraEyes (0) - Unvotes (3): Chezinu, mderg, Lazermonkey Koshi (0) - Unvotes (2): Artanis[Xp], Lazermonkey Snickers (0) - Unvotes (4): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp], Release, YouKnowZhou mderg was first to 5 and so was lynched. So I think there's at least one mafia between me, Lazermonkey and Snickers because we all WERE on mderg on D1 and WERE NOT on mderg D2. Of everyone, I think it's probably LM because Snickers' case on me, while wrong, doesn't feel like effort scum put into trying to get a mislynch. LM is skating, sheeped the vote onto me and I think he's mafia here. ##Unvote
##Vote: LazermonkeyEveryone voting for me should really just stop and vote for Lazermonkey or Snickers. I prefer Lazermonkey. BH if scum can wait. I'm not even reading his shit anymore because it's all nonsense and wrong.
On June 24 2014 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think Lazer is the best lynch because he is on a short list of people I think could be mafia based on the voting on D1 (myself, Snickers, LM) and now he's opportunistically voting for me NOT based on his own observations but based on the findings and mutterings of others. I've answered any points he's raised against me, and he's just ignored. I think Snickers is town and I KNOW I'm town so I think LM is the best lynch today.
Here is why I'd rather lynch Lazermonkey than Koshi.
Artanis, this is also why I'd rather lynch BH than into Lazermonkey / Koshi if you feel so strongly on the Koshi read. Also both BH and LM want to lynch Koshi. I am totally not down for a Koshi lynch.
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Mr. Harp reporting. It's official that under questioning, NameDropper has no clue what is being asked of him and decides to reply to something off topic. The only other possibility are team of detectives have considered was maybe he is delusional.
In actual news, how about you start thinking clearly like ykz and Lazermonkey.
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I'm kinda sad today because of the VE lynch. Will post alot tomorrow. If there are any questions then I will still be checking the thread for a few hours before I go to bed.
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So sloosh what is your read on me. And I just read it quickly but I do not see how ykz koshi and Lazermonkey are related.
I forgot to type this when I had time but lazer and sloosh both "happened" to not be on the main lynch twice. So have I but I think it is understandable why. Not saying they are both scum, just something that I will try to look into later and something I thought people should know.
Also not sure if they voted town or scum.
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On June 25 2014 06:35 Snickers wrote:
So sloosh what is your read on me. And I just read it quickly but I do not see how ykz koshi and Lazermonkey are related.
I forgot to type this when I had time but lazer and sloosh both "happened" to not be on the main lynch twice. So have I but I think it is understandable why. Not saying they are both scum, just something that I will try to look into later and something I thought people should know.
Also not sure if they voted town or scum.
I believe you town from the nature of your posting and the way that the lynch happened on D2, where mderg unlurked to try to get a counter wagon.
They are related (in the sense that everyone is related) because we know for a fact that there are 2 scum in the game. We can find these by the process of elimination, where if you are reasonably sure that group X is town, then whoever is leftover must be scum.
For instance, I think Artanis, Snickers, Release, Chezinu and Koshi are town. That means by process of elimination that Lazermonkey and YKZ are scum.
Artanis thinks that Koshi could be scum. I think that between Lazermonkey and Koshi, that there is at most 1 scum, due to their feuding nature. That means, depending on who Artanis has a town read on, that someone else must be scum.
I'm proposing to Artanis reasons why I think we should lynch YKZ rather than into Lazermonkey / Koshi.
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Yea I think it would be a lot better to lynch Lazermonkey because he forgot that he voted mderg day one. I already explained why I thought it was suspicious.
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On June 25 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote:
Yea I think it would be a lot better to lynch Lazermonkey because he forgot that he voted mderg day one. I already explained why I thought it was suspicious.
Yo Snickers. So I read this post about you saying that I was scum because I forgot I voted mderg. Are you familiar with the term "WIFOM"? Because that is what all of your argument boils down to...
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Yea wine in front of me. Ebwop is edit by way of post. Fellow townie good karma told me a great website to look up terms.
YO lazer guess what the website said. That was one of the most misused terms.
So if I had to guess your wrong . Explain to me how your right.
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So unfortunately I'm trapped at dinner between now and daybreak. I'll do what I can to answer questions. I was hoping I could pull some clever cop fakeclaim maybe draw s shot but I'm not sure that will be possible like this.
I still like kosh for a lynch. I'm still unwilling to lynch lm because of the latevote. I've generally found art town and he is my top townread
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I remember someone commented about slOosh being 100% town and it wasn't me. Does anyone remember who it was?
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On June 25 2014 08:24 Snickers wrote:
Yea I think it would be a lot better to lynch Lazermonkey because he forgot that he voted mderg day one. I already explained why I thought it was suspicious.
Could you link or.quote this for me please
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Ctrl-F'd everyone's filter for 100% and it seems to not be working. Guess it was in different wording. Who mentioned reasons for townreading slOosh in recent times?
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VE once referred to sloosh as his town rock. Do you mean that?
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I said SloOsh is town, and I stand by that statement.
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