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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 24 2014 23:50 GMT
#1341
On June 25 2014 08:48 Release wrote:
I said SloOsh is town, and I stand by that statement.

Could you expand on why before the night is over?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 24 2014 23:58 GMT
#1342
On June 25 2014 08:37 Snickers wrote:
Yea wine in front of me. Ebwop is edit by way of post. Fellow townie good karma told me a great website to look up terms.

YO lazer guess what the website said. That was one of the most misused terms.

So if I had to guess your wrong . Explain to me how your right.

Okey, you argument goes something like this:

1.Lazermonkey does some crazy shit, never seen anything like it.
2. You think of a really really wierd scenario where this move would make sense from a scum PoV.
3. GG

Your argument only makes me scum if you assume that I am scum to begin with. And even then its a super big leap of faith to say that the reason I said what I said was because my scum team mate said to me that I was going to vote Bunnies but that I forgot to.

Another explaination is that I am town and that I just forgot. For you, its obviously impossible to know which one of the alternatives that is correct (unless your scum ofc). But that is why you do not draw any conclusions from the fact that I forgot who I voted. You have really no idea why I did what I did.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 24 2014 23:58 GMT
#1343
You could read my other post.
A summary would be that he asked questions that are useful to town.
When others create chaos, his posts dissuade it.
He forms his own opinions.
Haven't seen anything particularly misleading/incriminating as we have seen from Mderg, VE (even though he flipped town, some of his play was less than consistent), YKZ, and Lazer (imo).
☺
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 24 2014 23:59 GMT
#1344
I like release for responding st length to my discussions yesterday even if he initially disagreed. If he changed his view or whatever it should be obvious if his mindset is bag.

To reiterate on kosh he really didn't give reasoning for his VE vote and the lm ca see came sty a very wired time. His other actions I don't really care about. Whining isn't a scum tell unless it is accompanied by lack of play. His d3 votes don't name sense.

What I take away most from VE filter.is.his scrutiny of people.who voted mdetg d one and not two. We should
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 24 2014 23:59 GMT
#1345
Reads
Town
Chezinu -
The way the game has developed makes no sense for him to be mafia. There's also one comment in his filter that makes me near certain that he's town.
Release - Has been pushing the game forward since the start, even though I didn't always agree with the means. Was on the right wagon for the right reasons on D2.
Snickers - Flipped mafia joined a bandwagon on him at the last moment to save his own skin.[/b]
slOosh - His D1 was really strong and he's asking questions and pushing the game forward rather than just his own reads. If I'm wrong on any of my town reads, I think it's slOosh though.

?
Koshi - Koshi's alignment gives me headaches. In the first day he was active he actually asked a lot of questions and interacted. He's also tried engaging me when I scumread him, but the problem is that for a large part of D3 he played a very defensive game, just stating that he's town and appealing to emotion when faced with pressure. I'm torn between him and Lazermonkey. I believe that a town Koshi can show that he's town errygame. I'm not convinced he's town yet.

BH - BH's play is a complete opposite to Koshi; He played awfully on D1, then really stepped it up after antagonizing everyone on N1. Built a case on mderg and pushed him, but the problem is that he's also tunneled two townies to death. Three dead townies (VE, 27nb, goodkarma) suspected BH. BH's also known for legendary scumplay and he tried the antagonistic route first. I can see him being scum here despite everything that's happened.

Scum
Lazermonkey

Lazer's arguments have felt shallow for a while now. It feels like he's barely scratching the surface with his questions. He's been active yet he's never actually tried to push his targets in a meaningful manner and just ends up sheeping. His Koshi read is ill-constructed and he jumped to pressure me with slOosh, and backed off when he did as well. Lazer is my #1 candidate for scum atm.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 24 2014 23:59 GMT
#1346
Also be scrutinizing
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 25 2014 00:00 GMT
#1347
And since the night is just about over:
I still think that we should be lynching into YKZ/Lazer. Koshi is now the third candidate if one of them flips town.
Please, please, please, do not forget YKZ's deplorable Day 1 play.
Lazer's bandwagoning nature is also worthy of scrutiny.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:00 GMT
#1348
On June 25 2014 08:58 Release wrote:
You could read my other post.
A summary would be that he asked questions that are useful to town.
When others create chaos, his posts dissuade it.
He forms his own opinions.
Haven't seen anything particularly misleading/incriminating as we have seen from Mderg, VE (even though he flipped town, some of his play was less than consistent), YKZ, and Lazer (imo).

While this type of post are good for town, its really easy to make them as scum as well. I don't buy too much into it.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 25 2014 00:01 GMT
#1349
Day 4

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Artanis[xP] the Busy Paramedic was found dead.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
June 25 2014 00:01 GMT
#1350
gg's, gl town!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:01 GMT
#1351
Well, that sucks. I'm guessing that's why we had no nk N2. Sooo. Who did he save?
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 25 2014 00:03 GMT
#1352
GG.

On June 25 2014 09:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 08:58 Release wrote:
You could read my other post.
A summary would be that he asked questions that are useful to town.
When others create chaos, his posts dissuade it.
He forms his own opinions.
Haven't seen anything particularly misleading/incriminating as we have seen from Mderg, VE (even though he flipped town, some of his play was less than consistent), YKZ, and Lazer (imo).

While this type of post are good for town, its really easy to make them as scum as well. I don't buy too much into it.

This is a summary of my other post. Artanis had trouble finding it. I'm not trying to pass this as new information, which you seem to be implying.
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:04 GMT
#1353
On June 25 2014 09:03 Release wrote:
GG.

Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 09:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 25 2014 08:58 Release wrote:
You could read my other post.
A summary would be that he asked questions that are useful to town.
When others create chaos, his posts dissuade it.
He forms his own opinions.
Haven't seen anything particularly misleading/incriminating as we have seen from Mderg, VE (even though he flipped town, some of his play was less than consistent), YKZ, and Lazer (imo).

While this type of post are good for town, its really easy to make them as scum as well. I don't buy too much into it.

This is a summary of my other post. Artanis had trouble finding it. I'm not trying to pass this as new information, which you seem to be implying.

I am fully aware of that. Never implied anything though. Just saying that I think your reasoning for thinking SlOosh is town is flawed.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 00:12 GMT
#1354
On June 25 2014 09:01 Lazermonkey wrote:
Well, that sucks. I'm guessing that's why we had no nk N2. Sooo. Who did he save?


Sloosh
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 00:15 GMT
#1355
And this despite the fact the chez us obviously the cop
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:15 GMT
#1356
Unlikely. This wording doesn't make any sense if he was saved...
On June 25 2014 08:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote:slOosh - His D1 was really strong and he's asking questions and pushing the game forward rather than just his own reads. If I'm wrong on any of my town reads, I think it's slOosh though.

Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:17 GMT
#1357
On June 25 2014 09:15 YouKnowZhou wrote:
And this despite the fact the chez us obviously the cop

I would actually make alot of sense that he saved Chez. He has him highest on his town reads which doesn't make alot of sense otherwise...
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 25 2014 00:18 GMT
#1358
Oh didn't pay attention to that. Wasn't he crumbling sloish with the whole one hindered percent thing? I guess he could have saved chez the top townread. Let's not lynch chez for two reasons then
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#1359
On June 25 2014 09:18 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh didn't pay attention to that. Wasn't he crumbling sloish with the whole one hindered percent thing? I guess he could have saved chez the top townread. Let's not lynch chez for two reasons then

But wait!?! Why exactly was it obvious that Chez was cop? Saving Chez doesn't really make any sense otherwise.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 25 2014 00:33 GMT
#1360
Owell, nvm. It doesn't really matter.

Going to bed.
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