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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 24 2014 00:53 GMT
#1301
I am absolutely shocked.
/sleepwalking
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 24 2014 01:15 GMT
#1302
On June 24 2014 09:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum won. I cant believe this. Everybody can be scum really. I have no reads anymore. I also dont care anymore.


So if koshi was posting more posts like this I would think he is scum. And i highly doubt there is a vigilante in this game if he has not shot his bullet yet.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 24 2014 02:09 GMT
#1303
On June 24 2014 06:28 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 06:23 Snickers wrote:
I thought my reads we're bad a he he.

Artanis did u completely forget about day one lol.
So far in this game my reads are better than your reads.

Like seriously go through koshi filter and explain why scum would play that.

And all jokes aside. Does Lazermonkey really think he did not vote mderg day one. A little lost with my quick reading .

LOL. I really didn't remember that. Well this makes me look much better, doesn't it? : D


So what do you guys make of this. In any of the multiple mafia games you played, did you forget that you voted someone? I guess it also depends on the timing and situation. It seems weird for a town and scum to forget his vote. I am guessing what happened was somebody told Lazermonkey to throw his vote on 27nb.

This ties in perfectly with my koshi town read.

The reason why i read koshi town before the most recent posts was because he is playing such terrible town as in his reads are useless. So why even post them if they are going to make you look scummy. It would be insanely hard to fake being bad at this game for the longest time like he has.

Now LazerMonkey I have been reading as town and now he admits that he did not remember his first day vote. Now both of use were slurring are words here, but nothing this badly. If Lazer was saying stuff 100% wrong or forgetting stuff all game, this would not look odd.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 24 2014 02:33 GMT
#1304
Well, does this confirm Art as scum then?

Everybody I know...goes away in the end.

VE talked to The sheriff...

It wasn't suppose to be this way... It was suppose to happen at night... *cry*

VVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

I am still right here...

What have I become? My dearest friend?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 24 2014 02:36 GMT
#1305
PS: I'll lol if it is snickers and BH.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 24 2014 05:11 GMT
#1306
On June 21 2014 09:00 Kurumi wrote:
Night 2


[image loading]


The People's Committee was a very hot place today. The evidence seemed to be daunting on couple of the villagers, but consensus was hard to reach. The rules were clear for every person in the room. Kill so we have a chance before they kill us.
The two candidates were both very scared of the verdict. One of them had that fear fulfilled and changed into true terror. It was mderg. He left the room with The Sheriff. After couple of minutes and most likely mderg begging for his life a shot pierced the village.

+ Show Spoiler +
mderg the Mafia Goon was lynched!

Final vote tally

mderg (5): Koshi, Artanis[Xp], Release, YouKnowZhou, Chezinu - Unvotes (1): Snickers
YouKnowZhou (5): slOosh, VisceraEyes, Snickers, mderg, Lazermonkey - Unvotes (2): Release, Artanis[Xp]
VisceraEyes (0) - Unvotes (3): Chezinu, mderg, Lazermonkey
Koshi (0) - Unvotes (2): Artanis[Xp], Lazermonkey
Snickers (0) - Unvotes (4): Chezinu, Artanis[Xp], Release, YouKnowZhou
mderg was first to 5 and so was lynched.


24 hours for actions to both me and OnceKing.


So can someone explain that the chances of someone out of me, sloosh, and lazer monkey as mafia?(not a scum slip, just that I am not confirmed town) As in why would two people vote mderg in.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 24 2014 09:01 GMT
#1307
On June 24 2014 11:33 Chezinu wrote:
Well, does this confirm Art as scum then?

How so?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 09:09 GMT
#1308
On June 24 2014 10:15 Snickers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 09:47 Koshi wrote:
Scum won. I cant believe this. Everybody can be scum really. I have no reads anymore. I also dont care anymore.


So if koshi was posting more posts like this I would think he is scum. And i highly doubt there is a vigilante in this game if he has not shot his bullet yet.

I might have been a bit emotional there.

Man, I am so tired, slept for 4 hours.
I had a good night of sleep.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 24 2014 14:55 GMT
#1309
Just read the two pages I missed. What I learned:
-SlOosh is not scum.
-Koshi has said he's not scum 20 million times and has not contributed in any other way.
If anyone doesn't vote on Koshi on D4 unless he starts shitting massive, and I mean MASSIVE townie rainbows I am going to flip my shit.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 24 2014 15:43 GMT
#1310
(I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am Not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum.)2,000,000

Anyway koshi has contributed more than VE is you ask me. Why is Sloosh not scum?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 16:00 GMT
#1311
Great, looks like another day fighting this unholy tunnel. Thx for sucking all the fun out of this game for me Artanis. It's really sad that you keep calling me scum for being "bad". It's the only reason you give and it is pissing me off. I make cases in which I believe. I believed in VE as scum and I believed in Lazermonkey as scum. Yes I wrote more words about Lazermonkey as scum in my big post and didn't vote him. Who cares? I was still on the fence who was the better lynch and was awaiting some feedback. Also more words don't mean I think he is more scum. I did the same thing in the ongoing big game and people gave me crap for it for some strange reason there as well. Like... It is forbidden to make cases and then not vote the guy? What is the scum motive? Why would I give out multiple reads while I was sitting cozy on the VE wagon? I am pretty sure I didn't have a vote back then. Maybe LM was on me. I believed in the VE lynch. I believed in a Lazermonkey lynch. I made that clear. I gave 6-7 reads in that post and nobody interacts with me about it. Just all call it "bad" and that's it. Really nice. I gave reasons to why I believed LM was scum. NOBODY says shit about that ofc. Just "Koshi is so bad"

I checked the lynch while in bed and saw the vote switch and thought I was dead. I call gg but Jeebus gave me 40 more minutes to fight my lynch so I did. What did you expect me to do? Make giant cases on my phone while in bed? Really, what you want me to do is so unrealistic and fucked up. I fucking fighted 40 minutes while I should sleep so I wouldn't get misslynched and what is my reward. You being pissy about it and still calling for my head without any consideration. What the fuck do you want me to do? Really? Copy my role PM? Is that it?

I have done at least as much as other people around here. So judge me on my content, interact with me, do whatever you need to do. But stop this retarded shit by calling "bad" and calling my play "lacking" while I am staying up till 3 AM to prevent my own lynch. That's fucking effort.

And look at what you have been doing. WoW. Tunnel a townie the entire day. GOOD JOB!!! I am pretty sure that everybody on my yesterday even said I was not their main scumread except yourself. Doesn't that say something??? Lazermonkey eventually voted VE, Sloosh said I wasn't scum, VE wanted to lynch lazer over me. Sure.. I was "scum" enough to vote me. Where are these cases on me?

What did Koshi do:
1) I replace in this game x hours before lynch while Belgium just played and I had a party. I followed thread sentiment. Why am I even getting crap for this?
2) My first post was about how we should look into the people who didn't vote the misslynch bunnies. As if all scummers sit on a misslynch like that. What did you people do? Ignore me, called my questions bad, voted/blamed me for doing nothing. Yes, I could have been more vocal, but I just replaced in and was just meh, pretty sure I had also a lot of work that day and I somewhat neglected the thread early D1. My mistake. Koshi always needs to spam and be crazy.
3) Voted scum. Yes. That counts. Without me you had no mderg lynch. Look at my past games as scum (GoT, SMB, Glory Seeker) I have NEVER bussed a teammate. I always gave them townreads or not voted them one way or another. This game I joined the mderg lynch when it was hot and I didn't leave it for a BH lynch or VE lynch. This is not scummy. It doesn't matter if I couldn't leave the mderg lynch in the very end. I could have left it early and mid. I didn't. I didn't try. I was still pretty low on care level but I was on the right fucking lynch. I could jsut as easily been on a VE/BH/w.e lynch. I was fucking pushing people that didn't vote bunnies early D2. Why would I then vote mderg as scumbuddy??????
4) I make a post about why I think LM is scum. What do people do? Ignore the points, says it is bad, I should have voted LM with such a case, vote me. Maybe tell me my points on LM are bad, interact about them. Dnu...
5) I fight for my fucking life. See how I fought for my life in SMB. Went afk the entire day and then posted baby seals. See how I fought for my life in GoT mafia. I was scared and didn't dare to post anymore. rayn carried my fucking ass. The last scum game I was never in danger because I was in control so that was pretty sweet...


... Need to travel home.
I had a good night of sleep.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 24 2014 16:09 GMT
#1312
Koshi, my man, you're going about this the wrong way. People are gonna want to vote you no matter what. If by some stretch of the imagination you are town, all you have to do is catch scum and right a convincing case. Remember, the case against you would be false, and the case written by you would be true, so you could do it even better. I don't think there's any actually good explanation for your actions; I think you're scum. But humor me and give catching scum your best shot, as though you were a townie. I'll read your case.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 24 2014 17:02 GMT
#1313
Koshi, if you are being serious, remember that two people in this game are going to lie and be misleading lot. The other players are still going to be doing this to an extent. Do not take this too seriously.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2014 18:18 GMT
#1314
Artanis, I find it quite unlikely that both Lazermonkey and Koshi could both be scum. Do you agree?

If so, who do you think is the second scum after Koshi?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2014 18:36 GMT
#1315
On June 24 2014 09:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Please consider lynching BH when I flip town. PLEASE. He's playing a super manipulative game, and given the circumstances, I think it makes him scum. He has no reason to be manipulative with things going his way as they have been lately - he's playing manipulative for a reason - to push an agenda. PLEASE consider him tomorrow.

Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 24 2014 18:36 GMT
#1316
On June 25 2014 00:43 Snickers wrote:
(I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am Not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum.)2,000,000

Anyway koshi has contributed more than VE is you ask me. Why is Sloosh not scum?

No he hasn't, plus that doesn't mean he's not scum.
I misread SlOosh, thought I had proof that he's town but I actually don't. Bleh, if I did carpet bombing would work.
On June 25 2014 03:18 slOosh wrote:
Artanis, I find it quite unlikely that both Lazermonkey and Koshi could both be scum. Do you agree?

If so, who do you think is the second scum after Koshi?

At first glance I don't see why not. Why do you think they can't?
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2014 19:16 GMT
#1317
A strong mutually antagonistic posturing against each other.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 24 2014 19:29 GMT
#1318
On June 25 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:
A strong mutually antagonistic posturing against each other.

You might be right. I think BH can be scum as well. Tunneled on two townies now. Also, some more stuff on Koshi:

Start of D3:
On June 22 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. Lazermonkey wasn't there during the lynch. Then suddenly right before lynch he comes in and votes on Bh while on D1 he was against a bunnies lynch but still voted her. Why consolidate D1 but not D2? He also didn't do anything D2 but tunnel town for doing nothing.

I agree with Artanis that VE is town from mderg filter. I was a bit too focused on the mderg scumread into voting BH earlier. It would be pretty insane scumplay to buss each other with big cases into moving away from each other right before lynch.

For me scummers are: Lazermonkey/Sloosh


First time he mentions VE after that:
On June 23 2014 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:08 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
SlOosh

Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate?

I think this logic is pretty terrible.

I agree.

Wat.

I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do.

1 more Question.

Why is VE not mafia?

No evaluation. Calls VE town, then suddenly asks Lazer why VE is not mafia. There were no cases in between on BH for Koshi to re-eval, nor did Koshi mention anything about re-evaluating VE. He was interacting with Lazer at the time, considered VE town then suddenly wonders why Lazer doesn't think VE is mafia.

If there's anything in Koshi's fluffy post you want me to respond to I'll be happy to do so, but I don't see an added value for taking it apart piece by piece as a lot of it will be discussing non-alignment indicative things. The entire post is filled with nothing to push town forward and is full of emotional appeals that are frankly disgusting. If you can't handle the heat of someone calling you scum don't play the game.
Snickers
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1575 Posts
June 24 2014 19:38 GMT
#1319
On June 25 2014 03:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 00:43 Snickers wrote:
(I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am Not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum. I am not Scum.)2,000,000

Anyway koshi has contributed more than VE is you ask me. Why is Sloosh not scum?

No he hasn't, plus that doesn't mean he's not scum.
I misread SlOosh, thought I had proof that he's town but I actually don't. Bleh, if I did carpet bombing would work.
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 03:18 slOosh wrote:
Artanis, I find it quite unlikely that both Lazermonkey and Koshi could both be scum. Do you agree?

If so, who do you think is the second scum after Koshi?

At first glance I don't see why not. Why do you think they can't?


How am I suppose to trust your reads, when you do not even understand a simple comment. Never said "he's not scum". I was showing you how dumb it was to think someone is scum because he is saying he is not scum. So you really only have one point.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 24 2014 19:42 GMT
#1320
On June 25 2014 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 04:16 slOosh wrote:
A strong mutually antagonistic posturing against each other.

You might be right. I think BH can be scum as well. Tunneled on two townies now. Also, some more stuff on Koshi:

Start of D3:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. Lazermonkey wasn't there during the lynch. Then suddenly right before lynch he comes in and votes on Bh while on D1 he was against a bunnies lynch but still voted her. Why consolidate D1 but not D2? He also didn't do anything D2 but tunnel town for doing nothing.

I agree with Artanis that VE is town from mderg filter. I was a bit too focused on the mderg scumread into voting BH earlier. It would be pretty insane scumplay to buss each other with big cases into moving away from each other right before lynch.

For me scummers are: Lazermonkey/Sloosh


First time he mentions VE after that:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2014 03:15 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:11 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:08 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:05 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 23 2014 03:02 Koshi wrote:
On June 23 2014 02:59 Lazermonkey wrote:
SlOosh

Wouldn't I push you harder if my second scumread was my scum teammate?

I think this logic is pretty terrible.

I agree.

Wat.

I honestly don't understand what your trying here. Nevertheless, I am done with you for the moment. If you truly are town then you have better things to do.

1 more Question.

Why is VE not mafia?

No evaluation. Calls VE town, then suddenly asks Lazer why VE is not mafia. There were no cases in between on BH for Koshi to re-eval, nor did Koshi mention anything about re-evaluating VE. He was interacting with Lazer at the time, considered VE town then suddenly wonders why Lazer doesn't think VE is mafia.

If there's anything in Koshi's fluffy post you want me to respond to I'll be happy to do so, but I don't see an added value for taking it apart piece by piece as a lot of it will be discussing non-alignment indicative things. The entire post is filled with nothing to push town forward and is full of emotional appeals that are frankly disgusting. If you can't handle the heat of someone calling you scum don't play the game.

I asked that because in Lazermonkey his filter he said the entirity of D1 that VE is scum. Then he said SloOsh was his top scumread and I wanted to bait him saying something strong about VE and therefore said "Why is VE not scum?". To bait a strong reaction. Not because I thought that VE was scum.

That's how I scumhunt.
I had a good night of sleep.
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