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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 23:51 GMT
#1201
On June 24 2014 08:50 slOosh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:42 slOosh wrote:
On June 24 2014 07:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Koshi is stepping up his posting and VE is posting exactly what you would expect from a scum. Yhea, I'm feeling good about this lynch now.

Could you point out where? Really strange that you don't want to lynch Koshi all of a sudden.

He actually started to push his scum reads for the first time in the game. That doesn't mean that he is posting well. It just means he posts less bad.

Could you please point out which posts he is pushing scum reads? Like, quote them and stuffs?

Its 10 minutes untill lynch. No, I'm not going to post it now.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 23 2014 23:51 GMT
#1202
Lazer is a flip-flop-flippin.
☺
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 23:52 GMT
#1203
On June 24 2014 08:51 Lazermonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:50 slOosh wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:47 Lazermonkey wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:42 slOosh wrote:
On June 24 2014 07:57 Lazermonkey wrote:
Koshi is stepping up his posting and VE is posting exactly what you would expect from a scum. Yhea, I'm feeling good about this lynch now.

Could you point out where? Really strange that you don't want to lynch Koshi all of a sudden.

He actually started to push his scum reads for the first time in the game. That doesn't mean that he is posting well. It just means he posts less bad.

Could you please point out which posts he is pushing scum reads? Like, quote them and stuffs?

Its 10 minutes untill lynch. No, I'm not going to post it now.

just link them or quote them, and do it before the flip.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 23 2014 23:53 GMT
#1204
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy?
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 23:53 GMT
#1205
On June 24 2014 08:51 Release wrote:
Lazer is a flip-flop-flippin.

For all you guys that aren't already aware, this is how Release brain works:

I do something. Release says that what I did implies that I am scum.

The end.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 23:53 GMT
#1206
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 23:56 GMT
#1207
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=54#1067

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=52#1021
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 23:57 GMT
#1208
On June 24 2014 08:53 slOosh wrote:
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy?


party cause Ve is more likely to flip scum

but... also cause I want ve DEAD. I want him to die, to get lynched at my hands. I want this lynch to go my way. I want to be able to mockingly say "who's the town leader now? looks you failed on both qualifications" after he flips

I want him to be SAD.

On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.


[citation needed]
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 23:57 GMT
#1209
On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.

Yep. I'd rather win than whine about stinking meta. Go fucking vote Koshi.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 23:57 GMT
#1210
On June 24 2014 08:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=54#1067

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=52#1021

I think those posts actually make Koshi a lot scummier than he was before though. That second post especially as he ends up making a case on Lazer but never votes him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
June 23 2014 23:58 GMT
#1211
On June 24 2014 08:57 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:53 slOosh wrote:
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy?


party cause Ve is more likely to flip scum

but... also cause I want ve DEAD. I want him to die, to get lynched at my hands. I want this lynch to go my way. I want to be able to mockingly say "who's the town leader now? looks you failed on both qualifications" after he flips

I want him to be SAD.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.


[citation needed]

3 minutes left and I mentioned the game names already. Hydra Mini Mafia for scum VE getting caught, Shadow Mini Mafia for Town VE martyring.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 23:58 GMT
#1212
On June 24 2014 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=54#1067

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=52#1021

I think those posts actually make Koshi a lot scummier than he was before though. That second post especially as he ends up making a case on Lazer but never votes him.

I agree with Artanis. The entire source for my scumread on Koshi is http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=54#1067

Otherwise he wouldn't be my 2nd choice for lynch today
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-23 23:58:38
June 23 2014 23:58 GMT
#1213
edit
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Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 23 2014 23:58 GMT
#1214
On June 24 2014 08:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:56 Lazermonkey wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=54#1067

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/458796-normal-mini-mafia-lvi?page=52#1021

I think those posts actually make Koshi a lot scummier than he was before though. That second post especially as he ends up making a case on Lazer but never votes him.

Yep, they suck. But he at least PUSHED his scum reads for the first time ever. Thats why I said he upped his posting.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
June 23 2014 23:58 GMT
#1215
On June 24 2014 08:57 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:53 slOosh wrote:
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy?


party cause Ve is more likely to flip scum

but... also cause I want ve DEAD. I want him to die, to get lynched at my hands. I want this lynch to go my way. I want to be able to mockingly say "who's the town leader now? looks you failed on both qualifications" after he flips

I want him to be SAD.

Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.


[citation needed]

And this is why you're objectively a bad player. Because you play for yourself and not to win. Only if you're town, that is. If you're scum, masterful job chap.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 23 2014 23:58 GMT
#1216
On June 24 2014 08:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:57 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:53 slOosh wrote:
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy?


party cause Ve is more likely to flip scum

but... also cause I want ve DEAD. I want him to die, to get lynched at my hands. I want this lynch to go my way. I want to be able to mockingly say "who's the town leader now? looks you failed on both qualifications" after he flips

I want him to be SAD.

On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.


[citation needed]

3 minutes left and I mentioned the game names already. Hydra Mini Mafia for scum VE getting caught, Shadow Mini Mafia for Town VE martyring.


Oh, I must have missed it. Well, eminently fakeable. I'm staying on VE, he'll flip, and I'll finally have peace. It will be glorious, oh yes.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
June 24 2014 00:00 GMT
#1217
Release please swaperonis!
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
June 24 2014 00:00 GMT
#1218
Okay, I'll go check some of his older games I guess.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 24 2014 00:00 GMT
#1219
On June 24 2014 08:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2014 08:57 YouKnowZhou wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:53 slOosh wrote:
You said you were gonna push whoever survives tomorrow anyways, why so antsy?


party cause Ve is more likely to flip scum

but... also cause I want ve DEAD. I want him to die, to get lynched at my hands. I want this lynch to go my way. I want to be able to mockingly say "who's the town leader now? looks you failed on both qualifications" after he flips

I want him to be SAD.

On June 24 2014 08:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On June 24 2014 08:51 YouKnowZhou wrote:
Oh, come on. A guy can't just martyr a bunch and be like "hue hue you guys will look silly when I flip town" and have that be a towntell! What kind of stinking meta is this? Look, VE has, and listen to me about this, basically objectively played scummy about every major lynch in this game. He has faked anger, he has faked being afk, he has even posted a useless "Death reads" post that contains no new info and martyred for the past half hour. There's no way that this could possibly be a town VE. If he flips town I will PROVERBIALLY eat my hat.

I am very, very glad that we have Koshi as a counterwagon; he at least is likely to flip scum. But come on, guys, look at VE. He's so much scummier. omg.

It doesn't matter if you think it's stinking meta, it's accurate. Since when do you care about the way in which someone gives off towntells? It's either accurate or it isn't, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate. The faking anger/afk thing is all projection and something you can't be certain of.


[citation needed]

And this is why you're objectively a bad player. Because you play for yourself and not to win. Only if you're town, that is. If you're scum, masterful job chap.


I'm gonna be real here VE, another non-trivial reason I'm lynching you and not Koshi is I'm tired of dealing with your attitude. Even if you and Koshi were equal scumreads in my eyes, I'd lynch you first. Hell, even if Koshi was slightly scummier. Your tone and your treatment of me this game sicken me.
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
YouKnowZhou
Profile Joined June 2014
United States262 Posts
June 24 2014 00:00 GMT
#1220
##unvote
##vote Koshi
Do no evilness because it is a small one; do not leave a small deed undone because it is just a petty one.
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