EPT[Important] New TL Mafia Behavior Rules - Page 20
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Remember to post respectfully, but feel free to voice how you actually feel about the change | ||
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Erandorr
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 31 2014 09:48 Blazinghand wrote: You are aware Foolishness' name is not in fact "Phil R Monique" and that is a name I made up entirely because it is funny right WHO R wait what? | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
WHO IS PHIL | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 31 2014 10:07 Erandorr wrote: no im scum lynch me I would 100% and not even feel bad about it-. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
ugh. you're not my sort of man at all. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Expect names and flaming. In 15h. I'll tell what's really wrong here. gn | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
eh i thought that would work with a flower like you. mislynch | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25559 Posts
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On May 31 2014 10:19 Blazinghand wrote: could we try to stay on-topic guys? especially Slam, I feel like you're talking about something completely unrelated. wanna fuck? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + *wanks furiously* | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On May 31 2014 10:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: well do you have anything to contribute to the topic? EDIT: Seriously, click on your filter and tell me what the fuck you have said on this topic. This is not a "yadda yadda" thread. Say something, your posts are everything i hate in mafia because they are full of shit. SAY SOMETHING or gtfo! | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Can we try expanding our market segment before shifting it? And if there's not enough people to fill up games we'll deal with it when it happens. At the very least it's worth a try. | ||
yamato77
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On May 30 2014 18:33 marvellosity wrote: Green + red comparisons: funny. To the blue alone: we have far more active players and games than we used to in your oh-so-wonderful heydey. When you take my post out of context by merging two unrelated sentences its obvious you're trying to misconstrue what I was trying to say. I am also not Meapak_Ziphh so I don't know what you're getting at there. As for the blue statement, quantity of active players and games is only one metric to measure the forum's success. I disagree that it is the best measure of success. But if you want to have a rational discussion on the direction of this forum without twisted arguments like this one then you guys first need to answer the question of how you define success for the forum and how you will measure it. Is it playerbase growth? Style diversity? Quality of games? Quantity of games? I still can't believe Foolishness/GMarshal or whoever is in charge of this thread hasn't yet pulled up a vote count (or delegated the task to someone) so that we can at least see some numbers here. It seems like if you're trying to push change you should at least gather some data on public opinion rather than just use phrases like "most hosts say blah blah"/"far more active players"/"a majority of players" without any backing. It seems that most of the democratic efforts/transparency/accountability here is just in name only. TL Mafia is currently the wild west, and that the only reason it is this way is that the TL staff originally gave us its blessing in letting us self-moderate. It seems rather arrogant and entitled to be complaining about the fact that you don't want to follow the actual site rules. The tone I am seeing in this thread is not a simple "looser behavior control is better for the game", but is more along the lines of "these dictators are trying to impose their will against the demands of the population". As if this is your property and not TeamLiquid's. Given that it seems that this thread is going nowhere, the following compromise seems reasonable: Different hosts already have different moderation policies, some more strict on behavior than others. All you have to do is create two classes of games so that people who signup know exactly what they're getting into when they signup. One class has limited behavior restrictions (we can call it the anarchy/wild west moderation), and the other follows the rest of the site rules (standard moderation). That way we can restrict the people who want to play rough to one section of the forum and still allow the people who want to play a more moderated game to play games without being badgered. Obviously, this proposal would mean that we would crank up moderation on the standard games, but as long as people know what they're getting into when they sign up for each category of games, that isn't a problem, is it? | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
It's a problem that this thing has already been decided on by one group of people (who didn't really have the authority to just decide that anyway) and now there's no other group who believe they have the authority to undecide this and compromise instead. This thread has existed for a while and everybody has had a chance to voice in, I think it would be great if GMarshal just announced a compromise and then we roll with that for now and see how it goes. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On May 31 2014 18:26 Palmar wrote: Out of curiosity, does anyone have examples of bad behavior that wasn't dealt with and would be dealt with under the new ruleset? Cultured Mini mafia. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On May 31 2014 17:06 Incognito wrote: TL Mafia is currently the wild west, and that the only reason it is this way is that the TL staff originally gave us its blessing in letting us self-moderate. It seems rather arrogant and entitled to be complaining about the fact that you don't want to follow the actual site rules. The tone I am seeing in this thread is not a simple "looser behavior control is better for the game", but is more along the lines of "these dictators are trying to impose their will against the demands of the population". As if this is your property and not TeamLiquid's. Quoting for emphasis. TL Mafia actually has a very long rope compared to the rest of the site. Somehow people aren't understanding this. First it was Plexa, now it's GMarshal - the "main" mod responsible for the forum actually goes to bat for you guys. Other people on the forum look at this place and wonder how we get away with so much wayward behavior. GM and Foolishness just propose cleaning it up not only for the sake of making it look like the rest of the place, but because they want to start promoting TL Mafia on the main page. Hurrr durr when newbies show up we don't want them to see bickering and arguing between "vets"(lol). This move to clean the place up via hosts enforcing some agreed upon rules would actually lead to getting rid of the Ban List. One of the very things some of you rail against could be phased out by this move. New players won't see anything but games and a well moderated community that can be easily promoted. You can still flame and insult people in thread as long as it doesn't go overboard. Everyone wins. I hate having to think one step ahead for some of you jub jubs (dat insult!) - please don't make me have to state the obvious again. | ||
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yamato77
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