EPT[Important] New TL Mafia Behavior Rules - Page 21
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On May 31 2014 22:22 Erandorr wrote: This is so fucking silly its amazing. I hope that this creates such a rift that people leave the site for the newly created RealTLMafia.net where everyone can behave just the way they want it Yea, maybe they could call it omgus.net | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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justanothertownie
16321 Posts
On May 31 2014 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: So this turned into "oh i remember the old times and they were so much better" sorta thread? Yup. Obviously there was no bm in the old times. The old times... Did the people who say they don't play because of bad behaviour join the most strictly moderated games that were hosted some time ago? NOPE. Did anyone present an example of incorrectly moderated bad behaviour since the last discussion about this? NOPE. (Actually rayn said something but didn't follow up on it.) This whole discussion is so ridiculous. Over 20 pages of thread and still not one argument that shows why we need this as a general rule when hosts already can host anyway they want in this regard was presented. | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On June 01 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote: Yup. Obviously there was no bm in the old times. The old times... Did the people who say they don't play because of bad behaviour join the most strictly moderated games that were hosted some time ago? NOPE. Did anyone present an example of incorrectly moderated bad behaviour since the last discussion about this? NOPE. (Actually rayn said something but didn't follow up on it.) This whole discussion is so ridiculous. Over 20 pages of thread and still not one argument that shows why we need this as a general rule when hosts already can host anyway they want in this regard was presented. Oh man I get to play with you soon. Can't wait! | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On May 31 2014 18:26 Palmar wrote: Out of curiosity, does anyone have examples of bad behavior that wasn't dealt with and would be dealt with under the new ruleset? I'm not sure it will be that big of a change, but this would help more timid hosts crack down on things and do stuff like warn Steveling in Golden Sun Djinn Edition | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On June 01 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote: Yup. Obviously there was no bm in the old times. The old times... That's only because we permabanned him. Twice.  | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On June 01 2014 02:57 kitaman27 wrote: That's only because we permabanned him. Twice. Cant really call that a permaban then, can you :D | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 31 2014 22:02 yamato77 wrote: I'm pretty sure a lot of the people arguing against this stuff are just doing it for funsies. yes! | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 01 2014 02:33 Blazinghand wrote: I'm not sure it will be that big of a change, but this would help more timid hosts crack down on things and do stuff like warn Steveling in Golden Sun Djinn Edition PSA: it will make me "INTOLERABLE"! Consider yourself on your best behavior in any game I host. I have very different morals than most people. When the time comes, I am probably going to be the strictest host. This post is bold because it is the most sincere; I really enjoy lampshading and light sarcasm, the sort that almost isn't sarcasm. I literally will censor my games. I know that means a lot of vets won't come, but I want it out there as an experiment and it would be most honest. If you look at NMM LXIII, LXIV, and LXV (I think) you will see I actually tried to censor other players. Believe it or not I think I could fill a game this way. This seems to be the direction TLM is headed, people who see me on OMGUS may think I am not serious, but I am. OMGUS provides the loose atmosphere, so, here I can provide the tight atmosphere. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 01 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yo so real talk, can we ban the word "vet" from in-game discussion? It sure could be, but I don't see the purpose. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25557 Posts
On June 01 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yo so real talk, can we ban the word "vet" from in-game discussion? I'm in favor of a community norm against referring to people as vets for reasons like saying "we can't lynch him cause he's a vet" or "there's a massive vet conspiracy out to get Steveling" but there are useful times to say something like "Palmar is an experienced player who has played a lot on TL Mafia" in a more compressed way. So: Vet | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On June 01 2014 04:49 Blazinghand wrote: I'm in favor of a community norm against referring to people as vets for reasons like saying "we can't lynch him cause he's a vet" or "there's a massive vet conspiracy out to get Steveling" but there are useful times to say something like "Palmar is an experienced player who has played a lot on TL Mafia" in a more compressed way. So: Vet This makes sense, but I don't know how I would enforce it. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
On May 31 2014 21:55 Ace wrote: @prp: Nothing has been decided. RTT! Quoting for emphasis. TL Mafia actually has a very long rope compared to the rest of the site. Somehow people aren't understanding this. First it was Plexa, now it's GMarshal - the "main" mod responsible for the forum actually goes to bat for you guys. Other people on the forum look at this place and wonder how we get away with so much wayward behavior. GM and Foolishness just propose cleaning it up not only for the sake of making it look like the rest of the place, but because they want to start promoting TL Mafia on the main page. Hurrr durr when newbies show up we don't want them to see bickering and arguing between "vets"(lol). This move to clean the place up via hosts enforcing some agreed upon rules would actually lead to getting rid of the Ban List. One of the very things some of you rail against could be phased out by this move. New players won't see anything but games and a well moderated community that can be easily promoted. You can still flame and insult people in thread as long as it doesn't go overboard. Everyone wins. I hate having to think one step ahead for some of you jub jubs (dat insult!) - please don't make me have to state the obvious again. I'm not sure if getting rid of the banlist would come as a result of all that; it's probably easier for us to handle our own affairs on a case-by-case basis like we already do. Regardless everyone should reread what Ace just said here. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
The change is good, at least partially, in my opinion. Everyone can decide if they want to join certain games or not. People can host invite-only games if they want to play with "different rules" or whatever (i guess that's still possible in case there is a "problem" for some people?). In general if people think there is too much personal bm then there probably is. It also means something needs to change. Quite simple. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On June 01 2014 01:55 justanothertownie wrote: Yup. Obviously there was no bm in the old times. The old times... Did the people who say they don't play because of bad behaviour join the most strictly moderated games that were hosted some time ago? NOPE. Did anyone present an example of incorrectly moderated bad behaviour since the last discussion about this? NOPE. (Actually rayn said something but didn't follow up on it.) This whole discussion is so ridiculous. Over 20 pages of thread and still not one argument that shows why we need this as a general rule when hosts already can host anyway they want in this regard was presented. This is just wrong. Not that I'm a great or active player anymore but I kind of stopped playing games and when I do occasionally join one it's usually because of a specific rule set that limits posting and has a stricter host, usually when Ver hosts a game. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On June 01 2014 04:44 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yo so real talk, can we ban the word "vet" from in-game discussion? I have actually always hated the term. also, SUP AUSTIN? Play Dota with us! | ||
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